Insurgency Sandstorm

MarkJD · 23-06-2018 9:24pm #1

Anyone been following this or thinking about playing it?

Im a big fan of the original Insurgency and really looking forward to this new updated game on the Unreal 4 Engine. Its out on the PC in September 2018 and due to come out on PS4 & XB1 in early 2019.

Below is their official E3 Trailer which is kind of meh.

They decided to park the single player campaign for now to allow them focus on multiplayer and balance as that is the core focus of the current insurgency player base. However this will have a great Co-Op game mode with some very hard AI and varying objectives throughout a map.

I have 1300 hours in the original Insurgency and played competitive leagues for a few years and its a great community so if anyone is looking for that is usually in a 5 vs 5 game mode called Firefight. Im an old school R6 player from Original Rainbow 6, Eagle Watch, Rogue Spear, RavenShield until the franchise went to **** under Ubisoft, so this is the type of game that has similar lethal game play that has been missing from the FPS market for a few years IMO.

Some of their game sponsors / streamers got some hands on at E3 and have given their initial thoughts. There is some great game play of the Co-Op mode but nothing of online play just yet.

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Below is a breakdown of what is known / confirmed about the game, price points and other general information. They haven't released Minimum specs yet but its expected in the next week or two.

Release date: 2018 September for Windows, Mac/Linux coming later. PS4 & XB1 Early 2019.

Price: $30 with a 10% discount for people who already own insurgency, 10% off for pre-order. These discounts stack for a total of 20% off if you do both. Pre-order includes beta access.

No direct ports of old maps, but new maps may be "inspired" by existing Insurgency maps

Game Modes: Firefight, Capture the Base, Push (PvP) - Checkpoint (Co-op) at launch. Other modes to follow post-release.

Maps will be larger compared to Source, but 5v5 Firefight will utilize a smaller playable area on these maps to better suit the mode.

No cross-play between PC & consoles.

New Features
Gun stats on loadout menu.
Ballistics that model bullet drop & travel time
Hybrid hitscan & projectile based system - hitscan for CQB, projectiles for further out
Dismemberment
Cosmetics, unlocked by ranks and in game currency. Not purchasable with IRL money.
Fire support- Similar to Day Of Infamy

New game modes: Operations for Co-op and Capture the Base for PvP
Doors, door breaching, Vaulting

New Weapons: MP7, Uzi, G36K, M24, PKM, G17, remington m24 (replacing m40a1) SVD, L85, m870, sig p226 and possibly more.

Staged reload system. Drive able vehicles equipped with light weight weapons. No tanks or other armored fighting vehicles.
Matchmaking/Competitive support
6.5K Voiceover lines
Can throw nades back.

Be great to see a few Competitive Irish Teams or players!

dreamers75 · 23-06-2018 10:05pm

Yeah I have it pre ordered, loved the 1st one hated that they released a mod as a standalone game (day of infamy)

But lkooking forward to this anyway.

MarkJD · 26-06-2018 7:06pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

Yeah I have it pre ordered, loved the 1st one hated that they released a mod as a standalone game (day of infamy)

But lkooking forward to this anyway.

Ah excellent same as myself. Ye i tried DOI when it was a mod and seen they then released as a full title. Seems to have a lot of support in its own right which was odd to see so many into it.

Did you play any of the competitive games. Fair few players around the EU that still play insurgency especially in the UK.

dreamers75 · 09-08-2018 6:28pm

Beta is live now 36Gb if you have it pre ordered it on Steam.

I hope the in game voices are place holders as they are literal copy and paste from the 1st one.

Mr Crispy · 10-08-2018 7:55pm

Not my type of game ultimately, but I love what they're trying to do with sound in the game;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlft6DQl580

It's a hugely neglected element in game design, and I hope other devs take note and follow suit.

dreamers75 · 30-08-2018 6:22pm

2nd beta back on now until the games release on sept 14th and it runs quite well, 60 fps at 4k compared to no fps at any k in the last beta.

dreamers75 · 14-11-2018 5:37pm

Patch out today that "fixes" stuff.

Change log here

https://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=581320

Its quite big as expected,

Dcully · 07-12-2018 1:07pm

So called open beta this weekend but really its free weekend of complete game a few days before official launch.
Starts today @ 5pm CET

MarkJD · 07-12-2018 2:16pm

Sorry havnt come back to this lads forgot to put it on follow. Ye iv been playing the game pretty consistently since the early alpha. Have been really enjoying it bar the glaring texture and performance issues to date.

Really recommend anyone check it out this weekend as its the open beta to iron out any last few bugs and give a wider community a feel. They did a great gameplay breakdown of all the features and elements to what makes Sandstorm different in areas.

Overall this newest patch brings a lot of stability for me except i am still having major texture issues and thats with everything on low. My setup is a i7-4790k 4Ghz, 16GB DDR3 PC2400, Samsung 850 Evo, and GTX 1070 G1 OC edition.

I have all the preset on low and barely pulling 100fps although it is rather smooth. Just the texture issues are bothering me.

Outside of that if anyone has interest in the Firefight mode that is the main competitive mode and there are regular nightly Pick Up Games (PUGs) over on the DGL Discord for anyone interested. Basically first 10 players in the room we make a random team and join one of the servers for a match. Everyone is welcome especially new players so feel free to drop by. People from Ireland, NA, UK, Aus, EU.

https://discord.gg/6tSuGF

MarkJD · 07-12-2018 2:20pm

Post Release Plans from NWI regarding Insurgency and their commitment to the game.

https://newworldinteractive.com/the-insurgency-legacy-continues/

This upcoming Wednesday marks a special day for our team and Insurgency fans. We finally unveil to you the culmination of years of hard work and passion our team has put into not only this project, but to the Insurgency series as a whole. Insurgency: Sandstorm takes the original Insurgency game from 2014 to a new era, with vastly improved visuals and expanded gameplay. While December 12th is the day of our long awaited PC release, it is far from the end for this game. No matter what kind of financial results we see from the launch, we remain committed to the game and its players.

For those of you who are familiar with the original Insurgency, you may recall a similar history. The Insurgency you can play today in 2018 is not the same game as it was at its launch in January of 2014. Today’s version of Insurgency is the result of years of improvements and new content. That included new weapons, new maps, new game modes, new characters, new voice over, expanded mod support, and even new mechanics. This is the same type of treatment we plan to provide Insurgency: Sandstorm for years to come.

Although we are proud of the work we have accomplished and the product we are delivering, we acknowledge that even by Wednesday there may still be some issues. The Open Beta should help us uncover anything especially problematic which can be addressed before launch on the 12th. In the days and weeks to follow, we will support the game with hotfixes and patches as necessary.

Here is a sneak peek of some of the post-release initiatives we have planned for the months to come:

New maps including an upcoming construction site map with a destroyed compound as well as remakes of Ministry and Sinjar from Insurgency 2014.
New weapons including the PF940, MP5A2, MP5A5, VHS-2, QBZ-03, M240B, MG3, and even some classic weapons from Insurgency 2014 and Day of Infamy.
Further optimization to target a lower minimum spec and get the game running smoothly on consoles.
Mod support for things such as custom maps, weapon model replacements, and more.
Custom game feature allowing users to configure and host a customized game experience using our servers.
Photo mode utilizing UE4’s replay system.
Night maps and associated equipment including flashlights and night vision.
Support for other PC platforms including Linux and MacOS.
More which will in large part be determined by community demand.

We look forward to the weeks, months, and years ahead where we will work alongside players to keep improving and expanding the experience. We are hoping to deliver our first content update no later than February.

Thanks for playing our game. We hope you have fun, and we look forward to your feedback. See you ingame!

Jeremy Blum
Founder & CEO
New World Interactive

7GB Update dropped last night with all maps released and a pretty much final version of the game.

7th December Patch Highlights: https://steamcommunity.com/games/581320/announcements/detail/1709576801693622906

Dcully · 09-12-2018 4:21pm

I played about 4 hours since Friday and very much enjoyed it.
The sound is easily the best of any fps ive ever played,simply amazing what they have done with it.
It creates an atmosphere like no other.
As much as im a fan i cant help but get the feeling while playing that its more like a game update or large patch with new maps and tweaked ui more than a new game.

Dcully · 11-12-2018 12:40pm

Played a tonne more over the weekend, having given it more time i can confirm i was wrong ,its so much more than just an Insurgency patch or reskin.

Ive preordered, release is tomorrow.

Corvo · 11-12-2018 1:27pm

Watched some gameplay of this (have never heard of it before) and really loved the look of it.

Dcully · 11-12-2018 2:46pm

Few quick tips to assist those dipping their toes in for the first time or indeed returning players to the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlxrLeQkkIs

MarkJD · 11-12-2018 9:20pm

You guys wont be disappointed with the purchase. Honestly these guys really are a breath of fresh air in todays game development world. They will continue to support, patch, update and add content to this game over the next 2-3 years.

Im really hoping a DLC comes out in the future to potentially rival R6 in some capacity. Maybe a CQB DLC made up of SWAT Style operatives instead with a bunch of CQB and CQC maps like a large bank, nuclear facilities, shopping centres etc. The gunplay is really what sells this for me.

Its interesting seeing you guys jump into the COOP and other gamemodes. Between 200hrs on the Beta and 1500 in Ins2 from Source i only ever played Firefight and competitive game modes. COOP can be great fun if you can get 3-4 friends interested in the same playstyle. Otherwise i just find public servers everyone runs off and does their thing.

Robert ninja · 11-12-2018 10:49pm

I really liked the original. Multiple OS support and I added mods like one where I could hear gunshots coming through other players' radio transmissions (can hear the shot that killed them!). It's details and support like that which made the experience stand out from other shooters. However, as far as I can tell this new one has less OS support and less modding potential (so far) and is designed with console input in mind.

@MarkJD got me intrigued but I'll be waiting until there's more hands-on reports from players and how/if the modding scene grows.

MarkJD · 12-12-2018 2:54am

Robert ninja wrote: »

I really liked the original. Multiple OS support and I added mods like one where I could hear gunshots coming through other players' radio transmissions (can hear the shot that killed them!). It's details and support like that which made the experience stand out from other shooters. However, as far as I can tell this new one has less OS support and less modding potential (so far) and is designed with console input in mind.

@MarkJD got me intrigued but I'll be waiting until there's more hands-on reports from players and how/if the modding scene grows.

Ye that's absolutely understandable i have a good friend from source who is waiting until Linux support comes. I know the Devs have commented on it multiple times but all of that is absolutely coming post launch Mac / Linux Support and Mod Support but they have not committed any timelines or confirmed if its coming in stages.

They have a lot of optimization and bugs to work through still, they have committed release to consoles in 2019 and publishers breathing down their neck after already delaying for PC so be interesting how long it takes. Hope you are not waiting too long either way.

Dcully · 12-12-2018 10:26am

Official release 5pm today, last chance to get it for -20%.

killanena · 12-12-2018 10:29am

I haven't been following this game at all, I knew about it and have 200+ hours in the original. Must pick it up

Dcully · 12-12-2018 12:59pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goX2eFxTiJc

Dcully · 12-12-2018 8:55pm

Breacher main for sure - love the Shotgun and the fact it's not half-bad at range, as opposed to other shooters with flatchette rounds that spray in massive AoE's that make medium/long-range impossible.

Single shot fire is your friend ,trust me when i say ignore full auto until your well used to the game and even then most top players only use full auto for CQB.

Cully on steam if you want to add me.

MarkJD · 12-12-2018 10:49pm

Glad to see you guys getting a better feel for it. See NWI had Dr Disrespect lined up to play for launch day. Just got dinner sorted gonna sit down and and try get ranked in this new competitive que. Admin over at the DGL created this quick guide for Competitive 5 vs 5 Firefight and some elements are specific to DGL. But if you have the 5 mins or so check it out. Provide you with some good insights on Firefight.

Feel free to come over to the discord all are welcome hopefully its ok to post that Dcully if not ill gladly remove.

discord.thedgl.com

Mr Crispy · 12-12-2018 11:20pm

This looks great, but I tend to steer clear of this kind of game because I'm a whoor for friendly fire

dreamers75 · 13-12-2018 1:22am

Have this since EA and tbh its barely passing as a playable released game.

I understand NWI have had some issues with staff leaving and the games release was pushed and pushed and now here we are on the day the game is released and its still far from finished, they have yet to master the unreal engine and it shows with the fact they ask you not to choose a certain scope texture for nearly 5 months now.

It has the basis of a great game but it needs at least another 3 months in EA before release.

I love insurgency and still have a server for the original:

Kinda assumed i would be cancelling that today and setting up Sandstorm server, today is not that day.

Dcully · 13-12-2018 10:35am

Game looks plays and performs fantastic for me, its more than ready imo.
What do you think is barely passable as playable?

PaddyBomb · 13-12-2018 10:45am

Was this not supposed to be released on console too?

Mickeroo · 13-12-2018 10:50am

PaddyBomb wrote: »

Was this not supposed to be released on console too?

Yup but not until 2019.

dreamers75 · 13-12-2018 5:12pm

Dcully wrote: »

Game looks plays and performs fantastic for me, its more than ready imo.
What do you think is barely passable as playable?

Try play it on Ultra in 4k, its playable on 2k high for me.

Stutters constantly and is missing tones of features/game modes. Not too concerned about the SP being dropped.

The scope issue is there since august and still causing people issues.

I am 100% sure this will be awesome when they get it sorted and it is going in the right direction.

Dcully · 13-12-2018 5:47pm

No interest in 4k 60 fps personally, 1440 144hz is just perfect and runs great thus i have no issue with the game.
If you like the game could you not settle for 1440 until they address 4k performance? i know i would.
I also dont have any scope issues, if its the complaint im hearing from some about fps drops or induced lag with some scopes?
Unless there is another scope issue?

dreamers75 · 13-12-2018 7:21pm

Change your scope settings (or dont if you having no issues).

I have 50 hours of Sandstorm, I have tried

Dcully · 13-12-2018 7:46pm

Pretty annoying alright if its an issue and ongoing for 5 months.

MarkJD · 14-12-2018 3:44am

Got my Diamond rank tonight for Competitive. No idea what it means they havent released much about that side of things. With regard your issues especially if you had it during the beta have you deleted your insurgency folder from the appdata folder and doing all that fresh. Supposedly helps alot of people

Dcully · 14-12-2018 1:49pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

Bit late with my reply but, er... I've no idea why you're bringing up auto weapons - I said I love the Shotty and how it is nothing like Shotguns in most games that have flechette rounds spraying into massive AoE's - in I:S the spread is low/moderate even at medium range so that shotty users aren't restricted to being CQ to do anything.

Above has nothing to do with spraying, praying or firing anything but shotguns, which are all single-firing :pac:

Having said that, I 'am' experimenting with other classes, but being a Commander is becoming annoying - just had a match where the one and only person playing observer was pretty much intentionally trying to avoid me so I couldn't make important calls, or sprinting off to suicide as a lone-wolf, or saying 'negative' when I was asking for an Observer. At least when I'm an Observer it's easy to keep up with the Commander and watch their back, but only met one decent Commander so far who kept at medium/long-range and was extra cautious so they'd have much higher chance of being alive when, you know, you might want fire-support on the super tense final DEFENSE. Most just assume it's fine to pick them, die, and provide nothing else that any other class in the game can do.

Haven't tried PvP yet - saving that for a rainy day as I know it'll frustrate me.

Sorry i thought you were talking about the recoil, i heard via in game voice guys saying it felt like aoe weapon with all the recoil spraying everywhere

Robert ninja · 14-12-2018 4:55pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

I love insurgency and still have a server for the original:

Kinda assumed i would be cancelling that today and setting up Sandstorm server, today is not that day.

I think you made me re-install it

Mr. CooL ICE · 15-12-2018 12:27pm

Have had a few games. Aside from a few friendly kills, I'm not nearly as rubbish as I expected to be. Game is a little buggy (stuck on loading screen, random floating objects) but I like it so far.

Krombopulos Michael · 02-01-2019 9:48am

Got the game and I like it so far. Have only played some local solo games to get up to speed and sometimes it may take a second for the scene to render correctly coming out of the menu, or on occasion, my player model hands disappear leaving me with floating guns.

I like the ability to kick a door in or peek if you so wish, or to keep a partially used mag or double reload to dump the mag for quicker reload time. Overall its good and hoping to get online with it shortly. I would like to see more maps as well.

Panic Stations · 07-01-2019 12:12pm

Bought the game during the steam sales. Picked it up for 23 quid.

Have to say that I'm really enjoying it. It's a fantastic game with great potential. It's a healthy mix between Squad/Arma and Battlefield/COD without too much seriousness and a more mature player base. Perfect blend IMO.

Anyone that fancies a game give feel free to add me on steam - The Handler

MarkJD · 12-01-2019 9:18pm

PUG event 3 for DGL tonight. Over 60 people again joined up. Few Irish people as well i seen join

If anyone interested in checking out some gameplay its live on twitch atm.

https://www.twitch.tv/thedgl

kevin55 · 15-01-2019 8:45am

I am planning to play it, but I don't know why? I am getting a COD Vibes from this game!

Icyseanfitz · 15-01-2019 1:18pm

no its definitely not cod, much more realistic

stefanovich · 17-01-2019 9:22am

Never got past technical issues with the original game. Unstable to put it mildly.

Dcully · 17-01-2019 11:11am

stefanovich wrote: »

Never got past technical issues with the original game. Unstable to put it mildly.

Played it for years never an issue, what issues were you having?

Panic Stations · 17-01-2019 11:28am

kevin55 wrote: »

I am planning to play it, but I don't know why? I am getting a COD Vibes from this game!

It's definitely not like COD. Much more tactical and team orientated gameplay.

stefanovich · 19-01-2019 12:31pm

Dcully wrote: »

Played it for years never an issue, what issues were you having?

On my PC with a GTX770 it was unplayable. Stuttering and crashing constantly. On my iMac just now I tried to play and it is stuck in windowed mode and refuses to go fullscreen.

Game bought in 2011

I think I remember you needed an AMD card for it to work properly.

stefanovich · 19-01-2019 12:42pm

If you feel like paying to debug someone else's game for free go buy insurgency.

Also, why add new features if they can't get the core game to function correctly.

Dcully · 19-01-2019 6:05pm

stefanovich wrote: »

On my PC with a GTX770 it was unplayable. Stuttering and crashing constantly. On my iMac just now I tried to play and it is stuck in windowed mode and refuses to go fullscreen.

Game bought in 2011

I think I remember you needed an AMD card for it to work properly.

Never an issue on my old rig with gtx970 onboard.

Im not saying your wrong but i played for years fine on nvidia card.

dreamers75 · 19-01-2019 9:49pm

stefanovich wrote: »

On my PC with a GTX770 it was unplayable. Stuttering and crashing constantly. On my iMac just now I tried to play and it is stuck in windowed mode and refuses to go fullscreen.

Game bought in 2011

I think I remember you needed an AMD card for it to work properly.

Its the half life source engine, calculators can run that

I have to cap the original as it runs at over 200fps un capped.

dreamers75 · 20-06-2019 11:26pm

Free weekend.

Robert ninja · 21-06-2019 4:24pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

Free weekend.

Just tried. Can't play because of EAC.

dreamers75 · 23-06-2019 1:14am

Robert ninja wrote: »

Just tried. Can't play because of EAC.

Dont worry about it I cant play because of my potato PC and I have the game since EA release.

9900K @5ghz
32gb DDR4
1080TI

Potato PC cant run this game at anyway playable FPS.

Dcully · 11-12-2019 7:49pm

Huge update to this recently with improvements in optimization and a new domination mode which works very well for such a shooter.
Also a free week of access for anyone who doesnt own it.

https://newworldinteractive.com/state-of-production-4/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5tFfC7ITM

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