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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Sonny678


    A great band. And kevin Rowland another British popstar with Irish parents. Parents are from Mayo just like Gallaghers mother. So many of the greats of British music are first or second generation Irish eg Oasis , The Beatles ( Lennon , McCartney, Harrison) The Smiths , Elvis Costello ( Real name Declan McManus) , Dusty Springfield ( Real name Mary O Brien ) , The kinks ( Davies brothers ) , Kevin Rowland and Dexys , Boy George (real name George O Dowd ) , David Essex ( parents were Irish Travellers ) , Ryder and many many more. Even Bowie had an Irish mother. Take Johnny Marr his parents came from Athy in kildare . Manj from Stone Roses parents came from up the street from Marr ( real name Maher ) in Athy also. Marr best British guitarist of last 35 years and Mani possibly the best baas player in British music in the same time , both their parents came from Athy. Comedians as well nearly all British top comedians are first generation or second generation Irish like Steve Coogan whose family come from Mayo and Peter Kays family come from Roscommon . Spike Milligan who had an Irish passport father and mother were from Sligo. Jimmy Carr also has an Irish passport he was born in limerick. Others with Irish backgrounds are Sean locke , Billy Connelly , Michael Mcityrne , Lee Mack ( family Mayo ) , Lee Evans, Shane Ritchie, Dermot O Leary , Frankie Boyle ( parents from Gweedore in Donegal) , Mickey Flanagan, Caroline Aherne , Kathy Burke and kevin Bridges.

    Rowland has written brilliantly about being first generation Irish in Britian . Rowland has always written about his Irishness. Check out the song Burn it Down which is having a go at British people who make Irish Paddy man jokes.

    Rowland has a touch of genius. And is underated. He would be a greater musical talent then say Damien Albarn or Thom Yorke or Ian Brown and never really gets real due credit. But he wouldnt be as cool. He took real risks and was real pop rebel innovator.
    Dexys created different sound for nearly every album. The albums
    Searching for the Young Soul Rebels hasnt dated well but it is a brillant brillant album. To ry Aeay with kind of Celtic sound is also a brillant album. Dont stand Down is his third masterpiece.
    People know Come on Eileen but here are other Dexy pop gems

    Dexys Burn it Down
    Dexys Tell me when my light turns Green
    Dexys Geno
    Dexys Jackie Wilson Said
    Dexys Until I believe in my Soul
    Dexys Lets make this precision
    Dexys This is what she likes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Great choice. I love the Big Thing album; the other two singles get more attention but ...Shame is great. The song used to promote Decade - Burning The Ground - is even more obscure.



    I remember that was the "new song" on the 1992 Greatest Hits. Although a version of it appeared on the Sowings The Seeds Of Love B-Side and was also added to the Japanese CD of the album. Nice tune too.

    "Burning the Ground" is a funny yoke, someone had a good time at the mixing desk.
    Duran Duran had some marvelous singles which are still easy on the ear.

    You're right about "Laid So Low" on the Greatest Hits, never knew it had a prior existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    There are so many underrated songs by Depeche Mode. Here are some more: Behind The Wheel, Shake the Disease and Precious.

    Those are great tunes, they're hardly underrated though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    REM have some great tunes underated, they went on run of albums in late 80s to early 90s that was unreal.

    I'd also include all of New Adventures in HiFi, which Michael Stipe has stated is his favourite REM album


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    And U2 have some great underated b sides that are underrated


    U2 Spanish Eyes
    U2 Salome

    U2 The Lady with Spinning Head
    And the excellent U2 Love comes Tumbling

    Underated Songs on U2 albums

    U2 Lemon

    The highlighted ones are my favourites.

    The Perfecto mix of Lemon is fantastic, goes on forever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,986 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Back to Duran Duran, always liked this from their later stuff



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 edwardG




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK




    Absolute gem from Gerry Rafferty, the piped intro is about a minute long.

    Never even dented the lower regions of the charts when released as a single, a pure travesty


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    Underated Beatles Songs

    1 Hey Bulldog
    2 Two of Us
    3 Sun king
    4 No Reply
    5 Im so Tired
    6 For no One
    7 Rain
    8 Mother Natures Son
    9 Im a Loser
    10 The Word
    11 And your bird can Sing
    12 Girl
    13 Baby your a Rich Man
    14 I got a Feeling
    15 Your going to lose that Girl

    I'd add You Never Give Me Your Money to that list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭dixiefly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Some good old forgotten punk, this is a cracking tune:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Superb song from 1995.


    Now 30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    Some good old forgotten punk, this is a cracking tune:



    Their goth phase. Loved Grimly Fiendish as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    I always thought Give Into Me was an underrated tune from Michael Jackson's catalogue. Slash played guitar on it and this era was when Michael Jackson's voice was at its absolute peak imo. Was a hit at the time, but rarely mentioned in conversations about his best songs now.






    Kylie's best song is Confide in Me and is one of the best songs of the 90s actually. It was critically acclaimed at the time, but again it's probably not the first song people would associate with Kylie. A darker, more trip-hop sound that's kind of different to her more flamboyant pop hits.








    Prince was such a prolific songwriter that it's really hard to narrow down the amount of underrated songs in his back catalogue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare





    One the greatest artists of all time yet so many of his songs so many don't know!


    That song utterly breaks my heart.

    I adore that song: A for the track it is, and B: for the fact he was SUCH an amazing performer/entertainer.
    Like Freddie.

    I used to have copious amounts of WHAM posters on my bedroom wall as a 8-10 year old.

    I still listen to solo George regularly at the age of 44.

    Such a loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    The amount of music people have never even heard. Like anything the Beatles didn’t put on their greatest hits is now unknown by generations. Helter Skelter, Hey Bulldog, I am the walrus, glass onion, rocky raccoon, why don’t we do it in the road, happiness is a warm gun, that’s just off the top of my head.

    Shame really. I’m currently listening to Lee scratch Perry’s catalogue slugging a few Guinness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    BDI wrote: »
    I am the walrus, glass onion, rocky raccoon, why don’t we do it in the road, happiness is a warm gun, that’s just off the top of my head.

    All these Beatles songs are very well known now and well rated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Lesalare wrote: »
    All these Beatles songs are very well known now and well rated.

    You honesty saying that if I walked over to tesco tomorrow and asked a sample of 100 people to sing any of these songs I would get 75per cent good answers?

    50per cent


    Ten or five I reckon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    BDI wrote: »
    You honesty saying that if I walked over to tesco tomorrow and asked a sample of 100 people to sing any of these songs I would get 75per cent good answers?

    50per cent


    Ten or five I reckon

    Yes I do.
    Those tracks are on most of the Beatles albums/remasters over the past 10 years or so.

    The original Q was: most underrated songs, not most unknown.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Yes I do.
    Those tracks are on most of the Beatles albums/remasters over the past 10 years or so.

    Oh rite, didn’t realise the kids were buying up Beatles reissues. Thought they’d be more into Bieber or Rita Ora.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭raclle



    Muse are such an underrated band and even better live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    BDI wrote: »
    Oh rite, didn’t realise the kids were buying up Beatles reissues. Thought they’d be more into Bieber or Rita Ora.

    You are still totally missing the point of the original Q.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    PressRun wrote: »
    Kylie's best song is Confide in Me and is one of the best songs of the 90s actually. It was critically acclaimed at the time, but again it's probably not the first song people would associate with Kylie. A darker, more trip-hop sound that's kind of different to her more flamboyant pop hits.





    That Kylie song is my favourite of hers. Very underrated.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Always rated Stuart Murdoch as an underrated lyricist. Outside of making the soundtrack for Juno, IMHO this is a fantastic song that never made it. One of many buried in the enormous B&S back catalogue.



    and one more while i'm here :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    smacl wrote: »
    Always rated Stuart Murdoch as an underrated lyricist. Outside of making the soundtrack for Juno, IMHO this is a fantastic song that never made it. One of many buried in the enormous B&S back catalogue.

    Expectations is brilliant. IMHO a band who peaked on their debut with each successive album seeing a fall off in quality.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Expectations is brilliant. IMHO a band who peaked on their debut with each successive album seeing a fall off in quality.

    Wouldn't agree, personally I reckon "The boy with the Arab strap", "If you're feeling sinister", "Dear catastrophe waitress" and "God help the girl" are all excellent albums. Cracking live band too, caught two of the three recent gigs and and they were sublime. To be fair, not sure I enjoyed any of their albums on the first listen but find they really grow on me and are ones I come back to a lot. Not mad on much of their more recent stuff, but reckon "Nobody's Empire" is another excellent single



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    ..don't be a mountain man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    smacl wrote: »
    Wouldn't agree, personally I reckon "The boy with the Arab strap", "If you're feeling sinister", "Dear catastrophe waitress" and "God help the girl" are all excellent albums. Cracking live band too, caught two of the three recent gigs and and they were sublime. To be fair, not sure I enjoyed any of their albums on the first listen but find they really grow on me and are ones I come back to a lot. Not mad on much of their more recent stuff, but reckon "Nobody's Empire" is another excellent single



    That's a good tune .

    Had negative live experiences (1999 Whelans + Electric Picnic 2006) but nothing since. If You're Feeling Sinister is brilliant too, almost as good as Tiger Milk. They had a very strong run of EPs up to 2001 or so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    https://youtu.be/Cee4ftcKEgw

    Lightening Seeds - Joy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    That's a good tune .

    Had negative live experiences (1999 Whelans + Electric Picnic 2006) but nothing since. If You're Feeling Sinister is brilliant too, almost as good as Tiger Milk. They had a very strong run of EPs up to 2001 or so.

    Recent gigs I was at were Iveagh Gardens and Vicar Street, both reasonably small and very much made up of B&S fans which led to a really enthused vibe. They were taking people onto the stage for Boy with the Arab strap and my daughter made it up to have a bop with the band which really made her night. Both gigs were more what I'd call classic numbers rather than pushing too much new stuff which was also a bonus. I'd definitely catch them again live if the venue wasn't too big.

    One final gem from their back catalogue, with Neil Hannon guesting on vocals. Terrible movie but great some great tracks on the studio album.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Long forgotten gem from 1985, what Frank Gallagher would've sounded like as a front man.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Hi. If people are talking about belle and Sebastian and don't mention Isobel Campbell and the Gentle Waves, I think the following song qualifies as underrated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Also. This has the smell of 2006 all over it but can remember watching this in my girlfriend's house on a sat night (partay animals) and looking at each other as it was playing and without saying anything going , in our heads, 'Holy ****! Are they allowed be that good. Someone must stop them. Anyway...'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Morgans wrote: »
    Hi. If people are talking about belle and Sebastian and don't mention Isobel Campbell and the Gentle Waves, I think the following song qualifies as underrated.


    Old photo of my Gentle Waves records
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Sonny678


    Some great songs , 14 songs from around Brit pop era and other artists from that period

    1 Oasis Rockin Chair
    2 Blur End of a Century
    3 Sleeper What Do I do Now
    4 Elastica Waking Up
    5 Pulp Do you remember the first time
    6 The Verve The Rolling People
    7 Tricky Black Steel
    8 Embrace Fireworks
    9 Radiohead Fake Plastic Trees
    10 Suede Animal Nitrate
    11 Stereophonics Dakota
    12 Manic Street Preachers Motorcycle Emptiness
    13 Franz Ferdinard Take me Out
    14 lighting Seeds Life of Riley

    Brit pop was very conservative in many ways. And not a great music era compared to Punk or grunge which were dynamic , outward looking and forward looking. Brit pop was backward looking ( at 60s ) and inward looking ( its had a good dollop of British nationalism and jingoism ). But while it didn't produced that many great albums, it did produce great singles and some cracking tunes. It was an interesting time in music with some interesting characters. While it had its flaws. When you look at state of music in Britian in terms of bands , ( where are all the great liverpool, Manchester Glasgow or London bands) , we could do with a young Gallagher or Albarn or Cocker now. It also very provicial based. It didnt have as much impact outside Uk or Ireland as people think. Oasis Whats the Story album and Wonderwall album did make impact in USA for few months. Radiohead when they moved on from the The Bends had US number 1 , were the few exceptions. But Radiohead were never really a Brit pop band. It was very much a British phenomenon .

    Oasis Rockin
    Oasis were the band that made Britpop. While people can sometimes look down at the Gallaghers , the fact is Noel Gallagher is very smart individual, and had a talent of writing great popsongs while Liam is great vocalist. Take Wonderwall. Simple start which u could sneer at. But then u have this brillant cello , great chord progression, a touch of psychedelic feel throughout the song and liams brillant vocals , and you have a great classic single. The cousin to Wonderwall is b side Rockin Chair. Oasis could do the Slade / Status Quo sound eg Roll with it. Which was fun but wasnt particularly great. Both its threit quiter moments, we see at their best. Especially the b sides. Gallagher influenced by great Smiths b sides and The Jam. Threw away songs. And truthfully Oasis third album should have been The Masterplan. Anyway one great b side is Rockin Chair. It has Smiths vibe to it. But again Liams vocals are brillant. And with his nasel vocals he does sings more similar to John Lennon then anyone I have heard. Oasis might have been soap opera at times , but people forget in 1995 , 1996 they were incredibly sucessful and probaly the last time a rock group really captured the publics attention dramatically.

    Blur End of a Century
    Blur were a mess of a band. Were they The Kinks , were they grunge , were they pavement . Their albums had some great tunes, but plenty of filler. But they were a great singles band. Songs like The Universal or Song 2. But for me End of Century is Albarn at his best. Hes not trying to hard , or to be anyone else. Hes just himself and it sounds great.

    Pulp Do remember first time.
    Another great singles band. But while Disco 2000 and Common People were great big monster singles , I think Cocker was trying to. hard to be another Morrisey at times . Some of their finest moments is before they broke the big time. Do you remember the first time is a great intelligent single. Cocker at his best. Insighful and Funny. Sorted for Es and Wizz was good also. Imagine a band releasing songs like that now.

    The Verve The Rolling People
    For me , they could have been great but they werent. First album showed promise . Urban Hymns was great album, but after that decline. Ashcroft looked the part, a great frontman. Bittersweet Symphony is still a great athemn and The Drugs dont Work is best British number 1 in 90s which was a country song in disguise. But the Rolling People is their finest moment. But it was decline from then on.

    Suede Animal Nitrate
    The band that sums up Britpop and for many started it. Suede had some good tunes . But for me were to much style over substance . Finest moment was Animal Nitrate. Butler and Anderson could have been Morrisey and Marr of their generation but when Butler left for me Suede lost something. Yes Dog Man man was very good, but they could have been really great.

    Manic Street Preachers Motorcycle Emptiness and Stereophonics Dakota
    For me these two songs kind of begin and end Brit pop. Manics were terrific in so many ways. Number 1 song about Spanish civil war eg If you tolerate this etc. The majectic Design for life. The amazing The Holy Bible album. But their finest moment is Motorcycle Emptiness. Brit pops finest moment. The song that ends Britpop is Stereophonics Dakota. Stereophonics were pub band that got lucky. This was their finest moment. Cracking synthesiser driven song , which went number 1. And really was final kick of Brit pop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    A great tune from a great Liverpool band, think it scraped into the UK Top 30 back in 1987.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭cml387


    Falling into the trap of underrated Beatles songs, I can think of "Things We Said Today" from A Hard Day's Night.

    The whiplash guitar from George, the verse is a moody minor key while the chorus moves to the major, it still sounds as good today as it was ahead of its time then.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,608 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,104 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    cml387 wrote: »
    Falling into the trap of underrated Beatles songs, I can think of "Things We Said Today" from A Hard Day's Night.

    The whiplash guitar from George, the verse is a moody minor key while the chorus moves to the major, it still sounds as good today as it was ahead of its time then.

    I could spend all day posting underrated Beatles songs, but I'll restrict myself to one: "Two of Us" from the also underrated Let It Be - McCartney channelling the spirit of the Everly Bros on the final Beatles album (not the last recorded but the last released).

    It's about Paul and Linda but can also be taken as a comment on Paul and John's relationship as it was fracturing after so many years:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Another dusty gem from the 80s. Always liked this, never heard of them before or since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    Another dusty gem from the 80s. Always liked this, never heard of them before or since.


    Now 2
    Album was reissued recently. Pretty decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    The NOW albums nearly always contained an obscurity or two that only dented the lower regions of the chart. Add to their appeal I think.

    Here's one that they didn't though, this was a big hit in the US but barely crept inside the UK Top 75. A great track though. Never heard of them afterwards either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    The NOW albums nearly always contained an obscurity or two that only dented the lower regions of the chart. Add to their appeal I think.

    Here's one that they didn't though, this was a big hit in the US but barely crept inside the UK Top 75. A great track though. Never heard of them afterwards either.


    Brilliant tune, as you say much more well known in UK. There are two great 12" mixes.

    One fundamental flaw of retrospective compilations is that they tend to cherrypick songs whereas the Now albums (and their rivals, the Hits series) tended to give a snapshot of pop trends over a four-month period. More time capsules of long-forgotten tracks include novelties like The Commentators’ N-N-Nineteen Not Out on Now 5, a parody of Paul Hardcastle’s 19, which describes the poor performances of England’s cricket team. Another is Karel Fialka’s synth-and-drum combination Hey Matthew which graced Now 10 and deals with a father questioning his son’s television choices. And for many years, the only way you could obtain a CD version of Tears For Fears’ Everybody Wants To Run The World (recorded to promote Sport Aid) was on the spin-off CD-only Now ‘86 released that year. Flying the flag for obscure sophisti-pop were The Ward Brothers’ Don Was-produced Cross That Bridge on Now 9 and Waterfront’s superb Cry on Now 15. And back to Paul Hardcastle: his Top Of The Pops theme, The Wizard, appeared on Now 8.

    The above is an extract from a longer feature I wrote for Classic Pop magazine in 2017. Full link here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    The above is an extract from a longer feature I wrote for Classic Pop magazine in 2017. Full link here.


    That's a great read.

    Here's a memory jogged by Hungry for Hits with the wolf on the cover, far superior to the more well known Pretty in Pink



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Great tune from the Madchester era. Never reached the charts as far as I know.

    Makes a great ringtone though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Inspiral Carpets:

    Got a release in the US but in the UK just had a promo 12" and was also on the She Comes In The Fall single.
    When they played McGonagles that April, the crowd broke the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Oberkon


    Depeche Mode in general

    Strangely underrated in uk and Ireland - the amount of people that think they wouldn’t fill whelans!


    Dm in classic mode black and white
    Little 15

    The sun and the rainfall -
    early DM

    Walking in my Shoes
    Beautiful video matching the lyrics
    Grunge period for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Photographic is class, this whole compilation was a game-changer back then.



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