Summer 2021 General Discussion

Tyrone212 · 29-06-2021 5:56pm

Zero sunshine up here today.

appledrop · 29-06-2021 6:02pm

Another absolutely stunning day in Dublin.

In summer camp all week trying to make sure all the kids have suncream on all day!

It has been an absolutely glorious June here in North County Dublin. Definitely up there with one of best. So many days with 20+ degrees and so little rainfall.

appledrop · 29-06-2021 6:05pm

compsys wrote: »

Is the sunshine recorder at Dublin Airport broken?

Have noticed on many days recently that the station has come up as cloudy on the hourly reports when it's been sunny in my parts.

And today there isn't a cloud to be seen in the East on the satellite but it's still reporting cloudy conditions.

You could be right, reading for last few days seem very low when we have had plenty of sunshine.

It's been wall to wall sunshine all day here in NCD so if that's not showing up today something is wrong.

DellyBelly · 29-06-2021 6:08pm

appledrop wrote: »

Another absolutely stunning day in Dublin.

In summer camp all week trying to make sure all the kids have suncream on all day!

It has been an absolutely glorious June here in North County Dublin. Definitely up there with one of best. So many days with 20+ degrees and so little rainfall.

Same in the south of the county been one of tge best June's I can remember

Slashermcguirk · 29-06-2021 7:06pm

I agree, best June in several years for Dublin, would certainly take this for the rest of the summer :-)

appledrop wrote: »

Another absolutely stunning day in Dublin.

In summer camp all week trying to make sure all the kids have suncream on all day!

It has been an absolutely glorious June here in North County Dublin. Definitely up there with one of best. So many days with 20+ degrees and so little rainfall.

Slashermcguirk · 29-06-2021 7:08pm

Where are you based? West coast?

sporina wrote: »

not its not! May was crap as was most of June.. yeah - we are getting some good days now... but I see lots of rain for the weekend..

not looking for "wall to wall sunshine and high temp's".. but this summer has been v erratic and its not our norm.. my Dad is an 83 yr old farmer he had never witnessed a May as cold as this year's

Finger's crossed for the rest of the summer months..

highdef · 29-06-2021 8:05pm

Stunning evening following a stunning day in North Kildare. Sipping cocktails in the garden and the sun has not been behind a cloud all since late morning!

29-06-2021 8:07pm

highdef wrote: »

Stunning evening following a stunning day in North Kildare. Sipping cocktails in the garden and the sun has not been behind a cloud all since late morning!

Ditto here except since sunrise!
We had a very fresh sea breeze though A marine layer cooling tbings

highdef · 29-06-2021 8:14pm

Marine Layer wrote: »

Ditto here except since sunrise!
We had a very fresh sea breeze though A marine layer cooling tbings

Very light breeze all day here however I'm sitting in front of a Southwest facing stone building, resulting in a combination of radiated heat from the stone combined with no wind at all meaning that it's like being away in the Med. Just glorious!

Slashermcguirk · 29-06-2021 8:21pm

Still 20 degrees or higher at 8pm in a number of locations

Gonzo · 29-06-2021 8:25pm

unbroken sunshine till about 6pm this evening and since then there is alot more cloud around. Still pleasant at 20C after getting close to 24C around 5pm.

I'm expecting tomorrow to be similar to yesterday, more in the way of cloud than today but hopefully some decent sunny spells too.

29-06-2021 8:36pm

highdef wrote: »

Very light breeze all day here however I'm sitting in front of a Southwest facing stone building, resulting in a combination of radiated heat from the stone combined with no wind at all meaning that it's like being away in the Med. Just glorious!

The inland heat always brings on a strong sea breeze here unless other factors at play
A Davis station at Tinahey just behind croghan mtn here out of tgat breeze, maybe 10kms inland hit 24c
Here once the sea breeze really got going late morning, we were pegged to between 17 and 18c
I've attached the wind chart for today at my station
It dies off rapid in the evening, gusting to 30kmh

Donegal Storm · 29-06-2021 8:47pm

Heating on again in Letterkenny. Some light drizzle has started up again

pauldry · 29-06-2021 9:03pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

I agree, best June in several years for Dublin, would certainly take this for the rest of the summer :-)

Has to be up there with one if the dullest coldest June's I can remember. Will have the full facts tomorrow

Slashermcguirk · 29-06-2021 9:21pm

Dullest coldest June where?

pauldry wrote: »

Has to be up there with one if the dullest coldest June's I can remember. Will have the full facts tomorrow

beggars_bush · 29-06-2021 9:24pm

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Thanks Gonzo so Cork/Kerry would be decent chance?

Has been stunning last few days

Oneiric 3 · 29-06-2021 9:24pm

Sky looks very dirty here, wouldn't be surprised if there was some of that Icelandic volcanic pollution trapped in the atmosphere again.

beggars_bush · 29-06-2021 9:25pm

Danno wrote: »

Glengarriff (Cork) ACS is almost 25c.

This is 1.3c above nearest stations.

Micro climate in that part of the world

sporina · 29-06-2021 9:34pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

Where are you based? West coast?

Cork City

sporina · 29-06-2021 9:35pm

Donegal Storm wrote: »

Heating on again in Letterkenny. Some light drizzle has started up again

OMG thats tough.. twas roasting here in Cork City today

Gonzo · 29-06-2021 9:57pm

Today's max temperatures, fairly big contrast between the dull and drizzly north-west to the sunny south and east. Thursday to early Saturday should be a big improvement for Donegal as the warmth and sunshine will move northwards.

compsys · 29-06-2021 10:24pm

pauldry wrote: »

Has to be up there with one if the dullest coldest June's I can remember. Will have the full facts tomorrow

Depends on where you live. It's been sunnier, drier and warmer than average in Eastern parts. You can't really ask for much more if you live here.

Several stations in the West and North West however will finish around 0.5º below average.

On the cool side but nothing exceptional.

appledrop · 29-06-2021 10:41pm

Donegal Storm wrote: »

Heating on again in Letterkenny. Some light drizzle has started up again

I really don't know how you put up with the weather in Donegal.

It would break my heart, wouldn't be able for it.

30-06-2021 7:25am

sporina wrote: »

not its not! May was crap as was most of June.. yeah - we are getting some good days now... but I see lots of rain for the weekend..

not looking for "wall to wall sunshine and high temp's".. but this summer has been v erratic and its not our norm.. my Dad is an 83 yr old farmer he had never witnessed a May as cold as this year's

Finger's crossed for the rest of the summer months..

Yup, in Cork had 172mm of rain in May and a mean temperature of 9.5c which is a good bit more than double typical rainfall and two degrees down on typical temperatures. I just have to look at my garden to know how bad May was.

As for June, the stats would suggest your take is wide of the mark. So far less than half typical rainfall and slightly above typical temperature values, so I would say June has been very good even if we didn't get any real heat until later in the month.

Hopefully, we are on track for a nice summer. Just sitting out and feeling warm over the last few days has been lovely.

NIMAN · 30-06-2021 8:05am

Yesterday in North Donegal was kinda of weatherless.
No wind, dull, nearly complete cloud cover. But dry.
Today has started off exactly the same.

Reading about scorching temperatures at end of the week in the Irish press.
Lets hope the sun breaks through here.

beggars_bush · 30-06-2021 8:58am

NIMAN wrote: »

Yesterday in North Donegal was kinda of weatherless.
No wind, dull, nearly complete cloud cover. But dry.
Today has started off exactly the same.

Reading about scorching temperatures at end of the week in the Irish press.
Lets hope the sun breaks through here.

The giant bank of sea fog is not helping ye up there

jackrussel · 30-06-2021 9:31am

Some heat in that sun. Blues skies again in cork city.

Fowler87 · 30-06-2021 9:32am

Another cloudy balmy day on the horizon in East Mayo:(

beggars_bush · 30-06-2021 9:56am

jackrussel wrote: »

Some heat in that sun. Blues skies again in cork city.

Cloudy in kerry. Pity, we were going for 4 days in a row on the beach
Maybe later on

OldRio · 30-06-2021 10:21am

Cloud, again.
Leitrim.

pauldry · 30-06-2021 10:25am

Should lift today as theres more of an Easterly influence than yesterday plus more mobility in atmosphere.

Tomorrow will be a nice day in the West and Friday. Will be 2 days in the 20s at least.

Yesterday we got to 15.5c in Sligo and had all of 1.5hours of sun most of it behind hazy cloud

pauldry · 30-06-2021 10:35am

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

Dullest coldest June where?

http://sligosummer.blogspot.com

Heres my log Ive kept of Summer in Sligo so far.

Actually very dry June, seemed dull but a few hours sun at least.

Cool it was but not exceptional cause it was dry.

sryanbruen · 30-06-2021 12:10pm

compsys wrote: »

Is the sunshine recorder at Dublin Airport broken?

Have noticed on many days recently that the station has come up as cloudy on the hourly reports when it's been sunny in my parts.

And today there isn't a cloud to be seen in the East on the satellite but it's still reporting cloudy conditions.

Didn't have the time to respond to this until now. I have noticed this myself sometimes happening time and time again since 2019 starting with the late March 2019 fine spell but it especially seems apparent this June.

It hasn't been the sunniest June in the world by any means (not close to 2018 which was the sunniest on record) but Dublin Airport has just reached near average sunshine (for a 81-10 June) to 29th with bang on 172 hrs of sunshine. Doesn't look like that's going to rise much with the cloud so far and expected today but it's trying to shine through here. Casement seen 171 hrs to 29th which is above average.

I've much preferred the second half over the first half, in spite of the 3 consecutive rubbish days, when I last gave my opinions on this June. I still retain the opinion that this June whilst very dry hasn't been anything phenomenal and prefer a good few past Junes because they provided more memorable good periods and they've been sunnier but it's been a good month for Dublin, no doubt about it. Miles above the past 2 dire Junes in 2019 and 2020.

Must be noted that despite the cloudy observations being shown, the airport still managed 14.9 hrs of sunshine yesterday which is vast majority of the day and by far the sunniest day of this June as well as sunniest since 30 May.

EDIT: Indeed the cloudy has broken a lot now, good sunny spells.

Xenji · 30-06-2021 12:36pm

It has been the third poor June in a row in Castlebar, the average temperature has been 13.1C and we have had 67.4mm of rain but at least it was better than the 168.6mm we had last June.

Since the 30th of May we have not had one day you would describe as a stunner and it was the last day to top 20C. We had two very nice days but at least you could get out and about for the most part and while the majority of days followed the same dull, humid and overcast pattern the rain that did fall fell early in the month with only really one wet day after that on the 23rd.

Hopefully July in an improvement as August has produced over 100mm of rain every year since 2008 here.

Slashermcguirk · 30-06-2021 12:50pm

Blue skies and the sun breaking through in Dublin 5. Shaping up to be another lovely afternoon

DellyBelly · 30-06-2021 12:50pm

After a cloudy cool start the sun is now shining again in Dublin. Glorious again..

compsys · 30-06-2021 12:51pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Didn't have the time to respond to this until now. I have noticed this myself sometimes happening time and time again since 2019 starting with the late March 2019 fine spell but it especially seems apparent this June.

It hasn't been the sunniest June in the world by any means (not close to 2018 which was the sunniest on record) but Dublin Airport has just reached near average sunshine (for a 81-10 June) to 29th with bang on 172 hrs of sunshine. Doesn't look like that's going to rise much with the cloud so far and expected today but it's trying to shine through here. Casement seen 171 hrs to 29th which is above average.

I've much preferred the second half over the first half, in spite of the 3 consecutive rubbish days, when I last gave my opinions on this June. I still retain the opinion that this June whilst very dry hasn't been anything phenomenal and prefer a good few past Junes because they provided more memorable good periods and they've been sunnier but it's been a good month for Dublin, no doubt about it. Miles above the past 2 dire Junes in 2019 and 2020.

Must be noted that despite the cloudy observations being shown, the airport still managed 14.9 hrs of sunshine yesterday which is vast majority of the day and by far the sunniest day of this June as well as sunniest since 30 May.

So if you look at yesterday's readings it wasn't even showing as sunny for 14.9 hours.

So while I think the official readings are accurate, the hourly weather observations seem broken.

Beautiful sunshine since 11am where I am in South County Dublin (SCD).

Looks from the satellite that most of the cloud is slowly burning off - it'll be a better afternoon for many.

Slashermcguirk · 30-06-2021 12:55pm

I think it shows again though how much weather can differ within Dublin. In Dublin 5 it’s been an excellent June, lots of sunshine and plenty of days in the 20s. On the same day you could get more cloud cover in another part of Dublin that would impact on the overall day. You only have to look during warmer spells like June 2018 where it was 27-28 degrees in Phoenix park and Dublin airport could be 23-24. It’s a big different over a small enough area.

This winter was similar, we got that really random blast of snow for a few days in D5 and hardly 5-10km away there wasn’t a snowflake. Dublin can be very random.

I think we have maybe had more luck than most in D5, even now sun splitting the sky near the coast

sryanbruen wrote: »

Didn't have the time to respond to this until now. I have noticed this myself sometimes happening time and time again since 2019 starting with the late March 2019 fine spell but it especially seems apparent this June.

It hasn't been the sunniest June in the world by any means (not close to 2018 which was the sunniest on record) but Dublin Airport has just reached near average sunshine (for a 81-10 June) to 29th with bang on 172 hrs of sunshine. Doesn't look like that's going to rise much with the cloud so far and expected today but it's trying to shine through here. Casement seen 171 hrs to 29th which is above average.

I've much preferred the second half over the first half, in spite of the 3 consecutive rubbish days, when I last gave my opinions on this June. I still retain the opinion that this June whilst very dry hasn't been anything phenomenal and prefer a good few past Junes because they provided more memorable good periods and they've been sunnier but it's been a good month for Dublin, no doubt about it. Miles above the past 2 dire Junes in 2019 and 2020.

Must be noted that despite the cloudy observations being shown, the airport still managed 14.9 hrs of sunshine yesterday which is vast majority of the day and by far the sunniest day of this June as well as sunniest since 30 May.

compsys · 30-06-2021 1:22pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

I think it shows again though how much weather can differ within Dublin. In Dublin 5 it’s been an excellent June, lots of sunshine and plenty of days in the 20s. On the same day you could get more cloud cover in another part of Dublin that would impact on the overall day. You only have to look during warmer spells like June 2018 where it was 27-28 degrees in Phoenix park and Dublin airport could be 23-24. It’s a big different over a small enough area.

This winter was similar, we got that really random blast of snow for a few days in D5 and hardly 5-10km away there wasn’t a snowflake. Dublin can be very random.

I think we have maybe had more luck than most in D5, even now sun splitting the sky near the coast

I don't think the Dublin climate varies quite as much as you imply - given the odd extreme example of course.

I think the issue is that some people have selective memories while others value different things.

For example it could be a dry and sunny month, and warm, but if there weren't really high temps some would say it was a poor or boring month.

Personally I couldn't care if the weather is boring - I just want it to be good.

Meanwhile if it was a really warm and dry - but cloudy - month, many would also argue that it was a poor month as many value sunshine over anything else in summer (myself included usually).

In winter some posters only want snow - others clear days and frosty nights - some the exact opposite.

Some posters tend to be a bit negative by their nature - others overly positive - so you get all these varying reports.

However I think the best place to start is with facts and statistics - it's a weather form after all. How much rain and sun was there and what was the average monthly temp. All easily accessible on the MET E weather summaries.

I also think we forget just how average/poor the Irish summer is supposed to be. Many of us have wildly unrealistic expectations each summer. Like last June so many of us were saying it was cold/miserable/worst June etc. And there were some awful days for sure! But temps in the East actually ended up above average. Which to me also seemed crazy - but that's how bad the weather in Ireland often is.

pauldry · 30-06-2021 1:27pm

Sun shining at last

Temperature has responded too. A few warm days in the offing now up to and "maybe" including Saturday

Oneiric 3 · 30-06-2021 1:56pm

Likely now that June will finish drier, and in many places, much drier than average. Wettest station, compared to average, will be Finner Camp at about 82%, with the driest being Dunsany at just 18% of the total monthly average for the station. Of all the stations in the west, Shannon Apt is the driest at just 25%.

Slashermcguirk · 30-06-2021 2:23pm

I disagree, there can be a pretty decent difference in temperature between different parts of Dublin, almost every time we have a much warmer spell of weather, phoenix park and casement can be 3-4 degrees warmer than Dublin airport. You can also see how much it can differ in terms of sun and cloud levels, just take a stroll down the coast road in North Dublin and you can see way more cloud cover in another part of Dublin at the same time. I know we are no talking big fluctuations in climate but 3-4 degree temperature differences are not small. Also when it comes to winter, you can have vastly different snow amounts across different parts of Dublin in colder weather. There have been countless times where i have left North Dublin with no snow on the ground and gone to visit friends or family on the south side and they have a few centimetres of lying snow.

For a county as small as Dublin is, I think the contrast can be quite unusual

compsys wrote: »

I don't think the Dublin climate varies quite as much as you imply - given the odd extreme example of course.

I think the issue is that some people have selective memories while others value different things.

For example it could be a dry and sunny month, and warm, but if there weren't really high temps some would say it was a poor or boring month.

Personally I couldn't care if the weather is boring - I just want it to be good.

Meanwhile if it was a really warm and dry - but cloudy - month, many would also argue that it was a poor month as many value sunshine over anything else in summer (myself included usually).

In winter some posters only want snow - others clear days and frosty nights - some the exact opposite.

Some posters tend to be a bit negative by their nature - others overly positive - so you get all these varying reports.

However I think the best place to start is with facts and statistics - it's a weather form after all. How much rain and sun was there and what was the average monthly temp. All easily accessible on the MET E weather summaries.

I also think we forget just how average/poor the Irish summer is supposed to be. Many of us have wildly unrealistic expectations each summer. Like last June so many of us were saying it was cold/miserable/worst June etc. And there were some awful days for sure! But temps in the East actually ended up above average. Which to me also seemed crazy - but that's how bad the weather in Ireland often is.

compsys · 30-06-2021 2:37pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

I disagree, there can be a pretty decent difference in temperature between different parts of Dublin, almost every time we have a much warmer spell of weather, phoenix park and casement can be 3-4 degrees warmer than Dublin airport. You can also see how much it can differ in terms of sun and cloud levels, just take a stroll down the coast road in North Dublin and you can see way more cloud cover in another part of Dublin at the same time. I know we are no talking big fluctuations in climate but 3-4 degree temperature differences are not small. Also when it comes to winter, you can have vastly different snow amounts across different parts of Dublin in colder weather. There have been countless times where i have left North Dublin with no snow on the ground and gone to visit friends or family on the south side and they have a few centimetres of lying snow.

For a county as small as Dublin is, I think the contrast can be quite unusual

I don't think what you're describing is particularly unusual though.

DA is a rural station relatively close to the sea. PP is a more urban station, with a built up urban area to its East. It's natural that it would be warmer. But most days it's only 1 or 2º warmer at most - not insignificant but very normal.

As with snow, showers anywhere within the UK and Ireland are always pretty hit and miss.

You can highlight very specific instances but over the course of a few months or so there's not a huge difference in temps, rainfall and sun between the three main Dublin stations.

Gonzo · 30-06-2021 2:47pm

another beautiful day in Meath, blue skies and feeling warm but not as warm as yesterday. Going to make the most of the weather between now and Friday as next week is looking like a write off. Hopefully we are not in store for a repeat of July 2020. I am hoping that by this time next week we will see signs of things settling down and warming up again.

sporina · 30-06-2021 2:53pm

jackrussel wrote: »

Some heat in that sun. Blues skies again in cork city.

was out for a walk at lunch time and had to shower when I got home - no lie.. soo hot n humid

Tyrone212 · 30-06-2021 2:54pm

Sun is out now. North Coast still under it.

2pm
Ballypatrick forest 12c
Malin head 13c
Kerry farannfore 22c

Donegal Storm · 30-06-2021 3:00pm

appledrop wrote: »

I really don't know how you put up with the weather in Donegal.

It would break my heart, wouldn't be able for it.

I'm in the process of planning a move away partly because of the climate! After living in much sunnier climates for much of the 2010's it's hard to re-adjust back to the lack of summers.

Another cool, overcast day today though the cloud seems a lot thinner so more white than dark grey

Donegal Storm · 30-06-2021 3:06pm

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

I disagree, there can be a pretty decent difference in temperature between different parts of Dublin, almost every time we have a much warmer spell of weather, phoenix park and casement can be 3-4 degrees warmer than Dublin airport. You can also see how much it can differ in terms of sun and cloud levels, just take a stroll down the coast road in North Dublin and you can see way more cloud cover in another part of Dublin at the same time. I know we are no talking big fluctuations in climate but 3-4 degree temperature differences are not small. Also when it comes to winter, you can have vastly different snow amounts across different parts of Dublin in colder weather. There have been countless times where i have left North Dublin with no snow on the ground and gone to visit friends or family on the south side and they have a few centimetres of lying snow.

For a county as small as Dublin is, I think the contrast can be quite unusual

The airport is much more prone to a sea breeze than the other two, I wouldn't say it's much more complex than that.

The same issue makes a lot of the west coast stations not at all representative of their wider areas, Malin, Finner, Mace Head, Valentia etc are all on the immediate coast so are always cooler in summer and milder during the winter than 95% of their counties land area actually are

NIMAN · 30-06-2021 3:08pm

Sun starting to break through up here in the far North.
Hopefully a sign of things to come in the next few days.

Gonzo · 30-06-2021 3:19pm

temperatures across the country are generally lower than what I expected today with the exception of the south-west. Here in Meath we are currently 6C cooler than this time yesterday with a temperature of only 17C, however all the sunshine makes up for it.

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