any one going self sufficient

Birdnuts · 31-03-2020 9:46pm

Think I've pulled a ligament in right hand putting in veg 2day:(

Reggie. · 31-03-2020 10:31pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

Think I've pulled a ligament in right hand putting in veg 2day:(

Putting in veg......yeah right

bizidea · 31-03-2020 10:33pm

With the lazy bed method where you dig and turn over the sod on top do you get as good a yield of potatoes as you would by ploughing and making drills. Might try a drill of potatoes this way probably was the traditional way of sowing around the country

Bass Reeves · 31-03-2020 10:50pm

bizidea wrote: »

With the lazy bed method where you dig and turn over the sod on top do you get as good a yield of potatoes as you would by ploughing and making drills. Might try a drill of potatoes this way probably was the traditional way of sowing around the country

No buts it a great way to break up ground. It is nearly 40 years since I planted spuds that way. If the ground has had no spuds in it for 6-8 years the crop should be ok anyway.

Lady Haywire · 31-03-2020 10:51pm

I was trying to explain it to someone today in easy terms!!
Leitrim do 9/9/9/9
9 inches each side flipped onto the unmoved 18in middle. Soil on top.

Dad here does 8 because why not, & puts dung in the middle & soil on top.

bizidea · 31-03-2020 11:06pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No buts it a great way to break up ground. It is nearly 40 years since I planted spuds that way. If the ground has had no spuds in it for 6-8 years the crop should be ok anyway.

Might try doing a ridge for the craic probably be better trying it on a maincrop than first earlies id be thinking

uck51js9zml2yt · 31-03-2020 11:08pm

Got the garden rotovated today and started my raised beds for spuds.

Eamonn8448 · 31-03-2020 11:44pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

Got the garden rotovated today and started my raised beds for spuds.

why not go for ridges ? you'll get a better yield i think anyway

uck51js9zml2yt · 31-03-2020 11:56pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

why not go for ridges ? you'll get a better yield i think anyway

had them last year. Caused more work for the rest of the veg.
turning a ridge to a bed.
I'm going no dig this year so want beds set up

I just need to spray roundup on the grass that comes up over the next few weeks on the unplanted ground

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 12:04am

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

had them last year. Caused more work for the rest of the veg.
turning a ridge to a bed.
I'm going no dig this year so want beds set up

I just need to spray roundup on the grass that comes up over the next few weeks on the unplanted ground

perhaps if you want to go organic try getting a roll of the black pallet wrap on the ground between the beds , its cheap enough , worked a treat for me a few years ago , if you dont have a lot of unplanted ground

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-04-2020 11:13am

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

perhaps if you want to go organic try getting a roll of the black pallet wrap on the ground between the beds , its cheap enough , worked a treat for me a few years ago , if you dont have a lot of unplanted ground

9waves

I got a load of silage covers off Buford last year (waves) which is working well.

A local tree surgeon is dropping me in loads of wood chip which i plan putting down on walkways and some of the beds. It will keep the weeds down and turn to mulch over time.

Buford- Is there anywhere around to get Boron?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-04-2020 1:18pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

9waves

I got a load of silage covers off Buford last year (waves) which is working well.

A local tree surgeon is dropping me in loads of wood chip which i plan putting down on walkways and some of the beds. It will keep the weeds down and turn to mulch over time.

Buford- Is there anywhere around to get Boron?

Kellihers in Clash may have it or Kellihers in Ballymullen, I know that Ballymullen used do sprays so they should have something. Both should be open these days though best to ring first, I'd say.

I would say somewhere like Woodies or Kellihers in Rock Street might have it in smaller quantities that might suit better but I think they're closed these days.

If you have no luck with those, there's guys out this side that do sprays that could have some as well. I can send you their numbers to see as they're doing ring and collect.

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 1:46pm

Kellihers in Clash are open was there yesterday , for smaller quantities try jimmy in kelihers in rock street , ring him first and he'll meet you at the back door , if you got no luck i'll sort you some out i know a few that grow turnips, woodies is closed as far as i know

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-04-2020 1:55pm

Thanks guys. I tried kellihers in clash and am picking up a bag later.
Going over to Browne's then to get 25kg of homeguards for a fiver

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 4:53pm

Thats sounds very cheap for homeguards you sure its not 2.5kg lol

bogman_bass · 01-04-2020 5:55pm

Too me potatoes are a field crop rather than a garden crop. It costs you money to grow them.

I never bother with them

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-04-2020 6:19pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

Thats sounds very cheap for homeguards you sure its not 2.5kg lol

Picked them up this evening. Definitely 25kg bag. I'll tell you how many I can use when I open it.

Bass Reeves · 01-04-2020 7:24pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

Too me potatoes are a field crop rather than a garden crop. It costs you money to grow them.

I never bother with them

Potatoes are easy to grow and now are expensive to buy especially new potatoes. Last Saturday for about a mixed half stone of spuds, a 12 tray of cabbage ( there was seventeen in it) a tray of lettuce and a half point off onions for a tenner. At a guess there will be 100 euro of stuff off them. Spud are easiest to grow and nearly dearest to buy now

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 8:47pm

got ten stone of queens , pound of mixed onions for 70 euro on monday , went a bit mad on the plough out of boredom on saturday but got all the queens planted , got 80 cabbage plants for free and spent about another five on various seeds , often spent more on a night out , besides the weather was perfect and it stopped me from going idle , money well spent in my opinion

popa smurf · 01-04-2020 9:36pm

20200401_181501.jpg this is my 3rd Hen coop keeps 6 hens easily and not much work in them.

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-04-2020 10:10pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

got ten stone of queens , pound of mixed onions for 70 euro on monday , went a bit mad on the plough out of boredom on saturday but got all the queens planted , got 80 cabbage plants for free and spent about another five on various seeds , often spent more on a night out , besides the weather was perfect and it stopped me from going idle , money well spent in my opinion

Where did you get the cabbages.

Got 5 kg first earlies down this evening. Have 5 kg of 2nd early and maincrops to go. 20 kg goldent wonders and some homeguard. Ive also fir apples to plant, oca, artichoke and yacon.

I'm going to have a serious amount of spuds this year.:eek:
Then its down to the normal veg.

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 10:20pm

I work on a veg farm so if you want cabbage plants or anything like that just pm me , i got 60 here im trying to give away , no point having a glut of spring cabbage, tbh i wanted the tray more than the plants lol

uck51js9zml2yt · 01-04-2020 10:45pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

I work on a veg farm so if you want cabbage plants or anything like that just pm me , i got 60 here im trying to give away , no point having a glut of spring cabbage, tbh i wanted the tray more than the plants lol

Sent you a pm

Eamonn8448 · 01-04-2020 10:57pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

Sent you a pm

cant reply mate says you need to free up space

carrollsno1 · 02-04-2020 4:28am

Looking likely we could be back soon enough as travel restrictioms are lifted a bit here now so im wondering which is better for sowing a few drills of spuds in either a n old lawn or a corner of a field used for grazing and 1 cut of silage each year?
Im reckoning the corner of the field, will need a shake of gran lime and 18/6/12 or 10/10/20 maybe as well as boron. I dont know much about boron but by the sounds of it here its a trace element that you spray is that on the drills pre planting or on the growing crop? Also for blight i wouldnt be tuned in on chemical usage and would rather use something else maybe bluestone anyo e familiar with using that?

Water John · 02-04-2020 11:48am

Don't think you lime before potatoes, you'd need to check that. Boron is a powder dressing you spread on the drills, it prevents brown rot, you know in the centre of the potato. If you can get FYM into the drills it would be great.
Not up on the varieties that are blight resistant, but would be worth checking out.
https://www.fruithillfarm.com/seeds-and-propagation/organic-seed-potatoes/blight-resistant-potatoes/carolus-organic-seed-potatoes.html

carrollsno1 · 02-04-2020 11:54am

Water John wrote: »

Don't think you lime before potatoes, you'd need to check that. Boron is a powder dressing you spread on the drills, it prevents brown rot, you know in the centre of the potato. If you can get FYM into the drills it would be great.
Not up on the varieties that are blight resistant, but would be worth checking out.

Will have FYM going on for sure, will be doing Rooster and/or Kerrs Pink might be too late for 1st earlies but maybe a drill of 2nd earlies as well not sure on variety there though. Thanks

Water John · 02-04-2020 11:58am

Queens would probably be the most popular second earlies.

uck51js9zml2yt · 02-04-2020 12:01pm

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Will have FYM going on for sure, will be doing Rooster and/or Kerrs Pink might be too late for 1st earlies but maybe a drill of 2nd earlies as well not sure on variety there though. Thanks

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Im planting 1 & 2nd earlies at the moment. Didnt plant them till May last year.
Putting a handful of boron and 18-6-12 ( mixed) in with each spud.
The land had FYM over winter.

I'll have mains in by the weekend.

Weather looks to be warm next week

uck51js9zml2yt · 03-04-2020 4:52pm

To update since getting it rotovated on Tuesday.

Colleen's and sharpes : 5kg each (earlies)
Golden wonders 20kg
Queens 5kg
Homeguard 5kg
Fir apples as a trial 5kg
Cabbage ( thanks eamonn)
200onion sets
Carrots.

Room ready for Oca, artichoke, yacon and asparagus.

That's half the garden done.

veggie plot is 650 sq meters

Credit where it's due.. My wife got the spuds in while I was working from home.

Eamonn8448 · 03-04-2020 6:01pm

Your motoring well so Tatranska
my update
planted:
60kg Queens (i know i got abit carried away!)
about 3 or 400 onion sets
spring cabbage - about 3 dozen

sowed into seed trays:
700 carrots- i know was a pain in the hole but better than thinning out later
100 beetroot, will prob do more when i get bored
100 lettuce
3 dozen tomato plants

must go rooting out more packs of seeds the plants wont go to waste
waiting on a few plants from the farm eg cauli, broccoli , dutch and summer cabbage, not a hope in hell will i grow those fecking sprouts lol

Happy days so far

uck51js9zml2yt · 03-04-2020 8:38pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

Your motoring well so Tatranska
my update
planted:
60kg Queens (i know i got abit carried away!)
about 3 or 400 onion sets
spring cabbage - about 3 dozen

sowed into seed trays:
700 carrots- i know was a pain in the hole but better than thinning out later
100 beetroot, will prob do more when i get bored
100 lettuce
3 dozen tomato plants

must go rooting out more packs of seeds the plants wont go to waste
waiting on a few plants from the farm eg cauli, broccoli , dutch and summer cabbage, not a hope in hell will i grow those fecking sprouts lol

Happy days so far

Have to say, my wife did most of the graft. She's from good Eastern European farming stock

Talk to you during the week.

Bass Reeves · 03-04-2020 8:41pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

To update since getting it rotovated on Tuesday.

Colleen's and sharpes : 5kg each (earlies)
Golden wonders 20kg
Queens 5kg
Homeguard 5kg
Fir apples as a trial 5kg
Cabbage ( thanks eamonn)
200onion sets
Carrots.

Room ready for Oca, artichoke, yacon and asparagus.

That's half the garden done. veggie plot is 650 sq meters

Credit where it's due.. My wife got the spuds in while I was working from home.

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

Your motoring well so Tatranska
my update
planted:
60kg Queens (i know i got abit carried away!)
about 3 or 400 onion sets
spring cabbage - about 3 dozen

sowed into seed trays:
700 carrots- i know was a pain in the hole but better than thinning out later
100 beetroot, will prob do more when i get bored
100 lettuce
3 dozen tomato plants

must go rooting out more packs of seeds the plants wont go to waste
waiting on a few plants from the farm eg cauli, broccoli , dutch and summer cabbage, not a hope in hell will i grow those fecking sprouts lol

Happy days so far

About 15 years ago I used have a big garden. Grew it on the same plot until I started getting that small slug that goes through the potatoes. Never grew more than two stone of seed. One year I was still eating queens out at the end of September and the roosters were huge potatoes. Some of you lads will want to be fattening a few pigs with the amount of spuds you grow. 700 carrots, I nearly prefer to be thinning than weeding that amount. I put in a bit more cabbage mid summer but with another lazy bed I will have plenty and I often gave away a nice few spuds. I never had more than 30-40 beet rood plants, the sheep were mad for them when they fot to turnip size.

Eamonn8448 · 03-04-2020 8:54pm

never had a problem with wireworm here , left the chickens at it after each run of the rotavator , this patch of ground hasnt been tilled in at least 40 years , any excess i'll just give away , you know ireland anything thats free grab it lol

kerryjack · 03-04-2020 8:55pm

Eamonn8448 wrote: »

Your motoring well so Tatranska
my update
planted:
60kg Queens (i know i got abit carried away!)
about 3 or 400 onion sets
spring cabbage - about 3 dozen

sowed into seed trays:
700 carrots- i know was a pain in the hole but better than thinning out later
100 beetroot, will prob do more when i get bored
100 lettuce
3 dozen tomato plants

must go rooting out more packs of seeds the plants wont go to waste
waiting on a few plants from the farm eg cauli, broccoli , dutch and summer cabbage, not a hope in hell will i grow those fecking sprouts lol

Happy days so far

3 dozen tomato plants, if you had half a dozen and mind them well under glass if you can it would be loads reminds of a story a lad around these parts went to Australia for a year and when he came back his old lad was growing tomato plants in his car.

l
l
l1

Eamonn8448 · 03-04-2020 9:08pm

i'll only keep 4 under glass for the table , i've another 12 promised to different people , between relatives and friends none will go to waste might actually sow a few more just incase , alot of people very interested in gardening this year , even had one dude ask if he could rent a drill !

uck51js9zml2yt · 03-04-2020 10:40pm

I have lots of friends... Or I will have in a few months.
Have the land so I might as well use it.
Going no dig this year.

kerryjack · 04-04-2020 10:19am

It's funny have a high flying brother in law living in Dublin wouldn't here from him from 1 end of the year to the next he suddenly back in touch asking how is the farming going and talking about moving out of the city and down the country, of course I told him we are all starving down here.

PoorFarmer · 04-04-2020 2:11pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote: »

No way was i digging a quarter acre by hand!
Going no dig this year. Have a local tree surgeon dropping me loads of woodchip.

You using the woodchip as a mulch to top everything off?
Have 4 more raised beds all but ready and was tinkering with the idea of woodchip as a mulch

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-04-2020 3:51pm

PoorFarmer wrote: »

You using the woodchip as a mulch to top everything off?
Have 4 more raised beds all but ready and was tinkering with the idea of woodchip as a mulch

Exactly.
I'm also going to put it on walkways. It will decompose over the year and I can then move it to the beds.

Got some rhubarb, cucumber and courgette and strawberries in Lidl this morning for planting.

Also did some more work on my new chicken coop and run

Sam Collie · 04-04-2020 9:59pm

Hi there
Where do you get plants like artichokes and asparagus in Ireland or did you grow from seed?

Thanks!

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-04-2020 11:28pm

Sam Collie wrote: »

Hi there
Where do you get plants like artichokes and asparagus in Ireland or did you grow from seed?

Thanks!

Gardens 4life in roscommon for the artichoke, Oca, yacon and willow (180 of them) . Martin is really helpful.

Ordered the asparagus from the UK via parcel wizard. Still waiting on that. I imagine they are busy.

Stationmaster · 05-04-2020 3:13pm

First 2 pigs killed and collected. Killed out at 63 & 68kg with 96kg of meat between them. Happy enough with that for first timers. Freezer full now!

Hard Knocks · 05-04-2020 4:14pm

Stationmaster wrote: »

First 2 pigs killed and collected. Killed out at 63 & 68kg with 96kg of meat between them. Happy enough with that for first timers. Freezer full now!

What cuts did you get?
We got one, but have too much boiled bacon

Stationmaster · 05-04-2020 4:23pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What cuts did you get?
We got one, but have too much boiled bacon

Per pig approximately:

7 packs of loin chops (in 2's) 5.3kg
5 packs of bacon 4.65kg
3 packs of ribs 2.15kg
15 packs of sausages .5kg each
10 packs of rashers 8 small rashers in each
12 packs of ham 22.5kg
4 roasts 4.5kg
1 pork belly pack 1 kg
2 packs of belly chops 1kg
2 pork steaks 1kg

Lady Haywire · 05-04-2020 4:24pm

Oh gawd. Now I just have to take pork belly out of the fridge

uck51js9zml2yt · 13-04-2020 10:00pm

People must be too busy looking after the farms rather than planting veg.

Got artichokes down over the weekend along with Kohl rabbi, corn and beetroot.
Beds ready for the asparagus and oca to go in.

New Chicken coop is almost finished.

The Uk supplier of the asparagus is saying a month for shipping. I kept it open and got some more from clarinbridge garden centre in Galway. Hope to have it soon.

CelticRambler · 13-04-2020 10:50pm

Too busy planting veg to be posting on boards.ie!

And taking advantage of the fine weather and long evenings to catch up on a load of general maintenance that couldn't be done earlier in the year.

But harvested (and ate) my first asparagus of the season this evening.

I have four of five varieties of potato planted (French ones - Sirtema, Charlotte, Charmeuse and Desirée ; the fifth, Mona Lisa, to go in this week); garlic, shallots and a load of onions all growing well; still harvesting last year's beetroot and will be for a while yet; first line of peas has germinated, four more lines added this week; beds prepared for tomatoes, peppers, melons, pumpkins & more once they leave the greenhouse.

Strawberries are in great flower, so hoping to have enough to make plenty of jam, if we don't have a harvest-hammering drought like last year (have two "everlasting" varieties that usually fruit right through to November). Fruit trees (plums, pears, apples, cherries) are/were also laden with blossom and look to be setting fruit. Unfortunately, I've been having terrible trouble with coddling moth on the apples, so that's ruined a lot of the fruit in recent years.

Our local waste collection service is giving ex-working hens free to good homes this month, but my working routine doesn't allow me to have any animals at the moment ... ... ... I really miss having the hens around.

tedpan · 13-04-2020 11:20pm

Alison Old-fashioned Thud wrote:

Got artichokes down over the weekend along with Kohl rabbi, corn and beetroot. Beds ready for the asparagus and oca to go in.

Nice, I planted asparagus last year. Takes 3 years to get your first crops though..

uck51js9zml2yt · 14-04-2020 12:40am

tedpan wrote: »

Nice, I planted asparagus last year. Takes 3 years to get your first crops though..

It's a long term goal. We eat a lot so thought, why not.

Wife dug the trenches while I worked on the coop. I knew I did well marrying a farmers daughter

any one going self sufficient

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