Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

US2 · 25-05-2020 11:58pm

ricero wrote: »

Just saw his recent comment about Michael Bisping having one eye.

Jasus hes a vile and classless human being. Really hope he fights Usman next. He needs to be humbled.

He just called him a one eyed fighter? It's a factual statement I bet it didnt upset Mike even

Pengo11 · 26-05-2020 12:10am

Vestiapx wrote: »

Usman is scary, Diaz is a big lightweight as is Gamebred. That bigger gap in weight creates a huge rift between a big lightweight and a big welterweight.

Also seen videos of masvidal training his wrestling. Probably doesn't want the Usman fight until he's stepped capable of surviving with someone like Usman on the ground.

eagle eye · 26-05-2020 1:37am

ricero wrote:

Usman mauls Conor just like Khabib did.

Usman would destroy either of them.

Whatever about Conor you'll never see Khabib fight him even though welter is probably his right weight class.

Mellor · 26-05-2020 1:40am

Homelander wrote: »

Surely Conor wouldn't be so stupid as to actually fight Usman.

There are some high profile fights he has a high chance of winning, that he could make.

Usman though.... honestly, it would be Khabib all over again.... at best.

Conor isn't calling for the fight. Neither is Usman.
This is all Ali trying to get a payday.

Khabib and Gaethje are unavailable. Usman needs a match. Ali wants $$$.
It's actually pretty embarrassing for Usman to be calling out a former FW/LW for a match. This was never a thing before Conor.

sonofenoch · 26-05-2020 8:48am

eagle eye wrote: »

Usman would destroy either of them.

Whatever about Conor you'll never see Khabib fight him even though welter is probably his right weight class.

You're straying off the narrative ............this is the McGregor bitch-fest, start a Khabib thread about him only beating up midgets and not venturing into dangerous water .......how many times has he avoided Ferguson btw, a goat

yourdeadwright · 26-05-2020 9:30am

The top 5 welter weights are all way to big for Conor,

Even Khabib would get mauled by them , the size and strength difference is just to much, Usman is a massive man ,

Masvidal is the smallest of the lot of them and he put a beating on Nate with his size and power ,

Conor isn't going near Usman he's not that stupid,

yourdeadwright · 26-05-2020 9:33am

Mellor wrote: »

Conor isn't calling for the fight. Neither is Usman.
This is all Ali trying to get a payday.

Khabib and Gaethje are unavailable. Usman needs a match. Ali wants $$$.
It's actually pretty embarrassing for Usman to be calling out a former FW/LW for a match. This was never a thing before Conor.

Ali is in a great spot but at the same time he will want to keep his 3 guys away form each other, Which may be hard,

In my opinion if Khabib wants to be a great he needs to go after Welter weight gold, He won't get near the GOAT conversation if he doesn't ,not much else for him to chase ,

Mellor · 26-05-2020 9:39am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Ali is in a great spot but at the same time he will want to keep his 3 guys away form each other, Which may be hard,

In my opinion if Khabib wants to be a great he needs to go after Welter weight gold, He won't get near the GOAT conversation if he doesn't ,not much else for him to chase ,

Justin is fighting Khabib. Ali can't stop that.

But Khabib is not going after Usman. He's made it clear that he's not moving to WW. He could change his mind, but I don't think he plans on fighting for long enough more to move up slowly and put on the mass needed

Pengo11 · 26-05-2020 9:46am

Anyone think Justin has a shot against Khabib? His striking is next level but I have a feeling it will be like Khabib Porier again.

Tazzimus · 26-05-2020 9:52am

Pengo11 wrote: »

Anyone think Justin has a shot against Khabib? His striking is next level but I have a feeling it will be like Khabib Porier again.

If he uses his wrestling for a change, yes.

Also, his striking is not next level. It's decent, but not elite. Better than Khabib's, mind,

ricero · 26-05-2020 10:37am

Tazzimus wrote: »

If he uses his wrestling for a change, yes.

Also, his striking is not next level. It's decent, but not elite. Better than Khabib's, mind,

I keep hearing that Gaethje should use his wrestling but yet we dont even know how good he is at wrestling as hes yet to use it in the ufc.

Anyway I still think Khabib mauls and smashes. No man alive at 155 can compete with Khabibs grappling.

yourdeadwright · 26-05-2020 10:49am

Pengo11 wrote: »

Anyone think Justin has a shot against Khabib? His striking is next level but I have a feeling it will be like Khabib Porier again.

Striking is good but not next level (conor would light him up ) his cardio IS next level and could be a huge advantage ,

We have all heard how good of a wrestler he is but never seen it in MMA ,
That will decide the fight,

Is he the best wrestler on paper that Khabib has faced ?

Tazzimus · 26-05-2020 10:51am

ricero wrote: »

I keep hearing that Gaethje should use his wrestling but yet we dont even know how good he is at wrestling as hes yet to use it in the ufc.

Anyway I still think Khabib mauls and smashes. No man alive at 155 can compete with Khabibs grappling.

Wrestling since he was 4.
2 time Arizona state high school champ
NCAA division 1 All American

Fairly decent wrestling credentials

eagle eye · 26-05-2020 10:51am

I think Gaethje's best chance is in an empty arena where he can easily hear instructions.

Doff · 26-05-2020 11:53am

I think Gaethje would be mad to try and out wrestle Khabib. He has a great wrestling background but as soon as you ad strikes into the mix its a whole other ballgame. Using his wrestling to get back to the feet would be his best bet in my opinion. Forest Griffin done a great breakdown on Conor/Khabib and pinpointed the moment Conor tried to outgrapple Khabib instead of using the opportunity to get back to his feet, which eventually lost him the fight.

US2 · 26-05-2020 12:03pm

Gathje only needs his TDD hes not going to try wrestle with khabib. I think it will be a stand up fight, alot like khabib v iquanta. Justin will have a lot more success than Al though.

derfderf · 26-05-2020 12:08pm

ricero wrote: »

I keep hearing that Gaethje should use his wrestling but yet we dont even know how good he is at wrestling as hes yet to use it in the ufc.

Anyway I still think Khabib mauls and smashes. No man alive at 155 can compete with Khabibs grappling.

We'll all finally get to see it when he fights Khabib.

Gaethje doesn't really have to outgrapple him. It may be enough to make him work hard for every take down. Khabib can't spend 5 rounds spamming takedowns. He couldn't do it against Iaquinta, or Conor.
If Justin keeps his head, and preserves his energy, who knows what will happen if he gets opportunities like Conor had in round 3.

Pengo11 · 26-05-2020 12:27pm

Seeing a lot of people call for Nate and Conor 3, I personally have no interest in seeing that. Aside from rivalry its a bit of a pointless fight, anyone else not want to see it?

Doff · 26-05-2020 12:32pm

derfderf wrote: »

Khabib can't spend 5 rounds spamming takedowns.

He does hold the record for most takedowns in a single fight, with that fight only going 3 rounds. If anyone could do it at the moment it would be him.

US2 · 26-05-2020 12:35pm

Pengo11 wrote: »

Seeing a lot of people call for Nate and Conor 3, I personally have no interest in seeing that. Aside from rivalry its a bit of a pointless fight, anyone else not want to see it?

What rivalry, they respect each other big time. No bad blood there atall.

eagle eye · 26-05-2020 12:35pm

Pengo11 wrote:

Seeing a lot of people call for Nate and Conor 3, I personally have no interest in seeing that. Aside from rivalry its a bit of a pointless fight, anyone else not want to see it?

That fight will only happen if nothing bigger is available.
Conor's biggest money spinners right now are Khabib 2, not happening, Gaethje and Masvidal.
After those Nate 3 is probably the next biggest money spinner.

Homelander · 26-05-2020 12:37pm

Pengo11 wrote: »

Seeing a lot of people call for Nate and Conor 3, I personally have no interest in seeing that. Aside from rivalry its a bit of a pointless fight, anyone else not want to see it?

Not really, but any McGregor fight will sell bucket loads.

He could announce he's fighting his local binman over a charges dispute and it'd probably still be in the top 10 PPV's.

Alf Veedersane · 26-05-2020 12:53pm

Homelander wrote: »

He could announce he's fighting his local binman over a charges dispute and it'd probably still be in the top 10 PPV's.

Rematch with the oul lad from the bar would probably be top 5.

Man Vs ManUre · 26-05-2020 1:04pm

“Doubt me now”. That’s what I say to all you bozo’s saying Conor has no hope of beating Usman. Imagine if he was to win a 3rd belt. Now then he could rightly claim to being the Goat regardless of how many defences he does.

eagle eye · 26-05-2020 1:41pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote:

â€œDoubt me nowâ€. Thatâ€™s what I say to all you bozoâ€™s saying Conor has no hope of beating Usman. Imagine if he was to win a 3rd belt. Now then he could rightly claim to being the Goat regardless of how many defences he does.

Obviously you've never seen Usman fight, you've never seen the damage he can do from distance, you obviously don't know how good of a grappler he is. You haven't seen how good his jaw is. You've never seen the size of him, how he is so much bigger than Conor in every way.
Like a much bigger stronger man with a five cm reach advantage. Three words, forget about it!!!

hots · 26-05-2020 2:20pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

“Doubt me now”. That’s what I say to all you bozo’s saying Conor has no hope of beating Usman. Imagine if he was to win a 3rd belt. Now then he could rightly claim to being the Goat regardless of how many defences he does.

You're actually not wrong, in a world where he beats Usman, yes, he probably has to enter the chat, despite not defending titles etc. Beating someone of Usman's size and quality and with that skillset would be outrageous.

It doesn't matter though because the fight won't happen and if it did it would be a 50-43 job. The idea of it happening is only slightly less mad than suggesting Lesnar or something, at least he's got the star power to justify it

Donald Trump · 26-05-2020 2:27pm

Pengo11 wrote: »

Seeing a lot of people call for Nate and Conor 3, I personally have no interest in seeing that. Aside from rivalry its a bit of a pointless fight, anyone else not want to see it?

I'd prefer to see old-man-in-bar vs. Conor 2.

eagle eye · 26-05-2020 2:33pm

Donald Trump wrote:

I'd prefer to see old-man-in-bar vs. Conor 2.

Have you any decent input? You know even something funny to say?

Frank Bullitt · 26-05-2020 8:09pm

Look at the size of him in a 170 fight...

Conors natural weight is 170, no cutting or anything like that. Usman is probably 185 in that photo, and he just mauled Woodley with ease, and did the same to Covington.

I can not get my head around how this fight can even be talked about.

pastorbarrett · 26-05-2020 10:54pm

Usman definitely natty. No doubt...

pastorbarrett · 26-05-2020 10:55pm

BTW, there's no way Dana makes Conor/Usman. Not a hope.

Mellor · 27-05-2020 7:40am

Gintonious wrote: »

Conors natural weight is 170, no cutting or anything like that. Usman is probably 185 in that photo, and he just mauled Woodley with ease, and did the same to Covington.

I can not get my head around how this fight can even be talked about.

I'd say he's north of 190 there.

Inviere · 27-05-2020 7:45am

McGregor had more of a chance against Mayweather (!) than he would against Usman...insanity thinking that it'd even be competitive. Conor belongs at 155.

yourdeadwright · 27-05-2020 10:00am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Usman definitely natty. No doubt...

I seen a video not to long ago of Usman doing cardio training in his front garden and one think that struck me was when he was on his recovery while breathing was his stomach , It looked "LIKE" not saying was as iv no idea like your typical HGH gut , You know where the intestines have expanded and the stomach is like a pot belly , Again it looked "LIKE" that ,

Didn't Coby keep saying something about EPO use to him ?

pastorbarrett · 27-05-2020 10:52am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I seen a video not to long ago of Usman doing cardio training in his front garden and one think that struck me was when he was on his recovery while breathing was his stomach , It looked "LIKE" not saying was as iv no idea like your typical HGH gut , You know where the intestines have expanded and the stomach is like a pot belly , Again it looked "LIKE" that ,

Didn't Coby keep saying something about EPO use to him ?

Colby talks all sorts of rubbish obviously, though I'd share your suspicions...though, of course, that's all they are. He's clean until he isn't.

Usman is clearly 190 plus. There's simply no way Dana will put Conor in there against a fighter that size and with his skill-set. It's just not happening. Not that Dana is ethical in the least, but he's not going to do that - not with McGregor and with the world's eyes on him.

Usman would be competitive at middleweight - he wouldn't give up too much against Cannonier or Hermansson, for example. Even Gastelum. Conor makes LW without a drastic cut - he looks good there.

Would McGregor fight him? I actually think he would, however.

yourdeadwright · 27-05-2020 11:24am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Colby talks all sorts of rubbish obviously, though I'd share your suspicions...though, of course, that's all they are. He's clean until he isn't.

Usman is clearly 190 plus. There's simply no way Dana will put Conor in there against a fighter that size and with his skill-set. It's just not happening. Not that Dana is ethical in the least, but he's not going to do that - not with McGregor and with the world's eyes on him.

Usman would be competitive at middleweight - he wouldn't give up too much against Cannonier or Hermansson, for example. Even Gastelum. Conor makes LW without a drastic cut - he looks good there.

Would McGregor fight him? I actually think he would, however.

No chance Conor fights him,

Ali and Usman know this and are basically calling him out to then call him names when he refuses to answer,

Pengo11 · 27-05-2020 11:28am

Putting my tinfoil hat on here but, if I were to put myself in the shoes of Ali, the one person you would want to see destroyed would be Conor. Calling him all sorts of names and taunting him etc knowing that's the way he would take the fight. Essentially holding the bate out and waiting for him to take it. Once he does, then Usman will just destroy him completely.

spix · 27-05-2020 11:34am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Colby talks all sorts of rubbish obviously, though I'd share your suspicions...though, of course, that's all they are. He's clean until he isn't.

Usman is clearly 190 plus. There's simply no way Dana will put Conor in there against a fighter that size and with his skill-set. It's just not happening. Not that Dana is ethical in the least, but he's not going to do that - not with McGregor and with the world's eyes on him.

Usman would be competitive at middleweight - he wouldn't give up too much against Cannonier or Hermansson, for example. Even Gastelum. Conor makes LW without a drastic cut - he looks good there.

Would McGregor fight him? I actually think he would, however.

Conor was supposed to fight Gaethje but asked for Cowboy instead. Before that him and his coach said they wanted to fight Frankie Edgar. Fair to say hes looking to make money off the safest fights possible. Usman, Masvidal definitely don't fit the bill. Can't believe anyone thinks Conor would actually take that fight. If he was actually serious about fighting at welterweight and getting a 3rd belt, the Woodley fight was there for the taking for quite a while. He wasn't interested in fighting Woodley, now look what Usman done to him. Zero chance Conor even consider that fight.

eagle eye · 27-05-2020 1:07pm

spix wrote:

Conor was supposed to fight Gaethje but asked for Cowboy instead. Before that him and his coach said they wanted to fight Frankie Edgar. Fair to say hes looking to make money off the safest fights possible. Usman, Masvidal definitely don't fit the bill. Can't believe anyone thinks Conor would actually take that fight. If he was actually serious about fighting at welterweight and getting a 3rd belt, the Woodley fight was there for the taking for quite a while. He wasn't interested in fighting Woodley, now look what Usman done to him. Zero chance Conor even consider that fight.

You can't out Usman and Masvidal in the same sentence.
Usman is huge compared to Conor. Masvidal isn't in the same realm, not in size, not in skills.
For all that people like and hate about McGregor he is a money man. He's the biggest draw in the history of MMA. He always goes for the most popular fight as that's where the biggest payday is.
Cowboy was a bigger draw than Gaethje before the Ferguson fight. Now Gaethje is only behind Khabib as far as who people want to see Conor fight. I think you'll see that fight happen in August. Khabib will find some way out again, probably get a 39 year old GSP to come back for a big payday. He demand to fight in July because Gaethje said no way.
White doesn't want McGregor fighting until fans are allowed in again. He does $20 million gates and White loves money too much.

Alf Veedersane · 27-05-2020 1:20pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I seen a video not to long ago of Usman doing cardio training in his front garden and one think that struck me was when he was on his recovery while breathing was his stomach , It looked "LIKE" not saying was as iv no idea like your typical HGH gut , You know where the intestines have expanded and the stomach is like a pot belly , Again it looked "LIKE" that ,

Didn't Coby keep saying something about EPO use to him ?

EPO and HGH are very, very different.

pastorbarrett · 27-05-2020 1:54pm

Not to go too off track, but it's not Conor or Masvidal Usman should be fighting - it's Edwards. Great fight.

BSK · 27-05-2020 2:21pm

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Not to go too off track, but it's not Conor or Masvidal Usman should be fighting - it's Edwards. Great fight.

Usman would kill McGregor unfortunately. Masvidal be a good match up. Why is Jorge not calling for the Usman fight?

Doff · 27-05-2020 2:32pm

Last time Usman and Edwards fought it was completely onesided for Usman. For some reason 2 judges gave round 1 to Edwards because he almost triangled Usman after Usman took him to the ground. Usman and Masvidal is the fight to make, but Masvidal won't fight because he will lose and that will be the end of his recent spotlight.

With that said, McGregor and Edwards would be interesting. Then again, UFC don't care they just want the big money fights and unfortunately for them, the current WW champ isn't that right now unless they have a name like McGregor going into it.

Man Vs ManUre · 27-05-2020 2:37pm

Masvidal vs Edwards for the BMF title would be a good fight also. Although Edwards is no way a BMF it would just be fun for him to bring the opposite type of personality into the build-up and also considering their history. There is no clear favorite in this fight.

yourdeadwright · 27-05-2020 2:42pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

EPO and HGH are very, very different.

im aware of that

spix · 27-05-2020 3:05pm

BSK wrote: »

Usman would kill McGregor unfortunately. Masvidal be a good match up. Why is Jorge not calling for the Usman fight?

How would Masvidal be a good matchup? A tough veteran whos never really been stopped or even beat up. Extremely skilled in standup and grappling. You can't compare him to anyone Conor has beat recently, they've all been handily beat several times before. Conor got stopped by Diaz and Khabib, who are nowhere near as dangerous as Masvidal and rarely stop opponents, its hard for me to see any other outcome against Masvidal. Theres always a chance Conor could have the fight of his life but unlikely. Personally I think he should fight Poirier or Ferguson next whilst waiting for Justin vs Khabib to play out. They are far more winnable fights imo and make more sense. It would be ridiculous for him to sit out and wait for a title shot at 155, he didn't even weigh in at 155 his last fight.

Doff · 27-05-2020 5:38pm

spix wrote: »

How would Masvidal be a good matchup? A tough veteran whos never really been stopped or even beat up. Extremely skilled in standup and grappling. You can't compare him to anyone Conor has beat recently, they've all been handily beat several times before. Conor got stopped by Diaz and Khabib, who are nowhere near as dangerous as Masvidal and rarely stop opponents, its hard for me to see any other outcome against Masvidal. Theres always a chance Conor could have the fight of his life but unlikely. Personally I think he should fight Poirier or Ferguson next whilst waiting for Justin vs Khabib to play out. They are far more winnable fights imo and make more sense. It would be ridiculous for him to sit out and wait for a title shot at 155, he didn't even weigh in at 155 his last fight.

Masvidal is 7-5 in his last 12 fights, he's very hittable. I think the recency bias is getting a bit OTT, he's basically a glorified Cerrone.

Homelander · 27-05-2020 5:58pm

He's much tougher than Cerrone though and far more consistent with his performances. He's been really incredibly solid the last few times he fought.

I'd definitely be interested in that fight with McGregor.

I think the main problem for McGregor in a lot of these potential fights is the 5 round distance. Masvidal (and many other) fighters would absolutely kill him if it got into later rounds.

spix · 27-05-2020 8:46pm

Doff wrote: »

Masvidal is 7-5 in his last 12 fights, he's very hittable. I think the recency bias is getting a bit OTT, he's basically a glorified Cerrone.

7-5 with 4 split decision losses. He never gets dominated by anyone. He can handle himself against any style fighter.

PyreOfHellfire · 27-05-2020 10:30pm

spix wrote: »

7-5 with 4 split decision losses. He never gets dominated by anyone. He can handle himself against any style fighter.

Lets be honest here. Masvidals last 3 wins are against an anorexic till, a regional fighter in Askren who had the ultimate padded record and the height of all journeymen in Diaz. Masvidal's hype train is more fake than Conor's ever was. Also he was dominated in his last loss against Thompson, it wasn't even close.

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