Club Championships 2018-19

Bonniedog · 11-11-2018 4:45pm

Looks like the disparity at inter county level is being replicated at club.

Financial doping ore perhaps the pursuit of excellence?

OldMrBrennan83 · 11-11-2018 5:18pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Looks like the disparity at inter county level is being replicated at club.

Financial doping ore perhaps the pursuit of excellence?

#splitcorofin

funkey_monkey · 11-11-2018 7:35pm

Have the provinces been drawn yet for the club hurling semis?

spurshero · 11-11-2018 10:35pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Have the provinces been drawn yet for the club hurling semis?

Leinster v Munster Connacht v ulster

TrueGael · 11-11-2018 10:43pm

County Champions of a proud Football County in Meath hammered at home by a Superclub and it doesn't even warrant a mention........

I guess everybody is desensitised to the constant domination at this stage............

OldMrBrennan83 · 11-11-2018 10:45pm

TrueGael wrote: »

County Champions of a proud Football County in Meath hammered at home by a Superclub and it doesn't even warrant a mention........

I guess everybody is desensitised to the constant domination at this stage............

With the world's tiniest violin playing the world's saddest song in the background. Dry your eyes for once.

PTH2009 · 12-11-2018 12:19am

spurshero wrote: »

Leinster v Munster Connacht v ulster

Tasty semi final in store between Leinster vs Munster champs

Could be NP/Ballygunner vs Ballyhale

Although Cushendal won't be any walkovers the Galway champs will fancy themselves getting to an All Ireland final

cantwbr1 · 12-11-2018 7:20am

TrueGael wrote: »

County Champions of a proud Football County in Meath hammered at home by a Superclub and it doesn't even warrant a mention........

I guess everybody is desensitised to the constant domination at this stage............

Or maybe people are wondering at the hammerings that multiple All Ireland winners St Finbars and multiple finalists Clann na Gael got

Bonniedog · 12-11-2018 9:56am

cantwbr1 wrote: »

Or maybe people are wondering at the hammerings that multiple All Ireland winners St Finbars and multiple finalists Clann na Gael got

Wouldn't be huge Kilmacud supporter myself, but truth is that Killarney Crokes, Barrs, and Clann na Gael could all be described as in one way or another "superclubs." Likewise Moorefield in Newbridge who were beaten yesterday, and Portlaoise.

(Don't know what playing numbers Corofin have.)

Point is they are big and successful because they put the work in. As someone who was involved in smaller club in Dublin it is difficult competing against the bigger guns, but every club finds its own level and outside of senior mens SHC and SFC there is good spread.

funkey_monkey · 12-11-2018 10:47am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Tasty semi final in store between Leinster vs Munster champs

Could be NP/Ballygunner vs Ballyhale

Although Cushendal won't be any walkovers the Galway champs will fancy themselves getting to an All Ireland final

I presume St Thomas is favouriate to beat Liam Mellows based on their previous encounter? I hope this will be shown on TG4.

cantwbr1 · 12-11-2018 12:14pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Wouldn't be huge Kilmacud supporter myself, but truth is that Killarney Crokes, Barrs, and Clann na Gael could all be described as in one way or another "superclubs." Likewise Moorefield in Newbridge who were beaten yesterday, and Portlaoise.

(Don't know what playing numbers Corofin have.)

Point is they are big and successful because they put the work in. As someone who was involved in smaller club in Dublin it is difficult competing against the bigger guns, but every club finds its own level and outside of senior mens SHC and SFC there is good spread.

I think that the OP was hinting that KMC are using
unfair means to enhance their team when in reality as you said they are most likely putting the work into their underage and reaping the benefits.

The match they referenced wasn’t even the most one sided match of the weekend and was in fact more competitive than the super club clashes in Munster and Connacht

jr86 · 12-11-2018 2:29pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

(Don't know what playing numbers Corofin have.)

Massive, should be two clubs really - Belclare and Corofin

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I presume St Thomas is favouriate to beat Liam Mellows based on their previous encounter? I hope this will be shown on TG4.

Thomas's will be favourites but that group game is no guide, Mellows were missing a few through injury and took a lot of time off in the summer

Bonniedog · 12-11-2018 2:36pm

Wouldn't be that familiar with Galway but Corofin be smallish population would it not, relative to Killarney, Kilmacud, Roscommon town etc?

Anyway, it is club that didn't sit around waiting for things to happen out of the blue.

jr86 · 12-11-2018 2:50pm

Corofin fielded 4 adult teams this year, Salthill are probably the only others in Galway - if anyone - who have as many adult teams and players

From being involved with underage Galway club teams in recent years, Corofin would generally have over 30 players togged on underage sides

They have no town but a very big geographical area

By the way what they're achieving is phenomenal I'm not taking away from the trojan work being done in the club

TrueGael · 12-11-2018 2:58pm

So Corofin a small rural village in Galway and Dr Crokes (who are basically 1 club out of 4 in the Killarney 'metropolis' of 14,000) are even remotely comparable to a Superclub whose catchment area alone dwarfs most counties but also benefits from quality club/IC players from around the country supplementing the already huge pick???????

It may come as a shock to some,but having 200 kids at every age and having multiple thousand members isn't a possible reality for Culchie clubs the only club outside the Pale that could be considered a superclub is Nemo and maybe Na Piarsaigh in Limerick

Forgot to mention that paid coaches (GDAs) from Croke Park are a pipedream for Culchie clubs

Bonniedog · 12-11-2018 3:01pm

It takes real dedication to achieve that sort of success. Kilmacud would not be too popular among a lot of clubs in Dublin, but often overlook the fact their own clubs have far lower playing numbers from similar population areas.

Reason: Because they have lost contact to some extent with the communities and schools they are in. Some once highly successful clubs in Dublin working class areas simply stopped putting in the effort. Now, there are other social reasons for that, but clubs like Finbarrs in Cabra and Peregrines in the vastness of outer Blanchardstown are thriving because they are dedicated.

Kilmacud and others make such connections a priority, hence their success, and success brings more human and financial resources. But it is the intent to become good that is the key to it all.

Utopia Parkway · 12-11-2018 4:18pm

TrueGael wrote: »

So Corofin a small rural village in Galway and Dr Crokes (who are basically 1 club out of 4 in the Killarney 'metropolis' of 14,000) are even remotely comparable to a Superclub whose catchment area alone dwarfs most counties but also benefits from quality club/IC players from around the country supplementing the already huge pick???????

Corofin are a rural club yes but I wouldn't call them a small club. They cover quite a large area south of Tuam. By rural club standards I'd say they actually have quite a big pick. Not Kilmacud Crokes big though granted.

willietherock · 12-11-2018 4:31pm

TrueGael wrote: »

It may come as a shock to some,but having 200 kids at every age and having multiple thousand members isn't a possible reality for Culchie clubs the only club outside the Pale that could be considered a superclub is Nemo and maybe Na Piarsaigh in Limerick

Why are Nemo Rangers a "super club" and other Cork City clubs aren't?

downthemiddle · 12-11-2018 10:58pm

Lucan Sarsfields have a pick of 17 primary schools and 7 secondary schools. Mullinaghta have 38 children in the local primary school. Numbers do not equate to success.

TrueGael · 12-11-2018 11:13pm

Difference is Lucan are competing with a bunch of Superclubs to win the County Championship as opposed to IC where is there one Monster and there is the rest.....

theoneeyedman · 12-11-2018 11:15pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Wouldn't be that familiar with Galway but Corofin be smallish population would it not, relative to Killarney, Kilmacud, Roscommon town etc?

Anyway, it is club that didn't sit around waiting for things to happen out of the blue.

Roscommon Town not a massive population, and in truth not a massive GAA club (Roscommon Geals). Clan by far the largest population centre in Roscommon, with Monkland the largest urban population (a de facto suburb of Athlone.

Bonniedog · 13-11-2018 9:27am

TrueGael wrote: »

Difference is Lucan are competing with a bunch of Superclubs to win the County Championship as opposed to IC where is there one Monster and there is the rest.....

Lucan are a big club, as in they have lots of players and as above pointed out, a large catchment area. They are just not that good at the moment.

You seem to define "superclubs" as big clubs who are successful.

Oh, and of course they only exist in Dublin :rolleyes:

Jaden · 13-11-2018 1:42pm

TrueGael wrote: »

So Corofin a small rural village in Galway[/I]

There is nothing small about Corofin's catchment area or setup. Sure their training grounds in Belclare must be 7 or 8 miles from the town itself, and is still in the catchment area.

That's roughly the same distance as separates NaFianna's ground with Ballybodens - on opposite sides of the city.

EICVD · 13-11-2018 2:36pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

It takes real dedication to achieve that sort of success. Kilmacud would not be too popular among a lot of clubs in Dublin, but often overlook the fact their own clubs have far lower playing numbers from similar population areas.

Reason: Because they have lost contact to some extent with the communities and schools they are in. Some once highly successful clubs in Dublin working class areas simply stopped putting in the effort. Now, there are other social reasons for that, but clubs like Finbarrs in Cabra and Peregrines in the vastness of outer Blanchardstown are thriving because they are dedicated.

Kilmacud and others make such connections a priority, hence their success, and success brings more human and financial resources. But it is the intent to become good that is the key to it all.

I’m a Peregrines man, we’re actually f****d!

Bonniedog · 13-11-2018 2:59pm

EICVD wrote: »

I’m a Peregrines man, we’re actually f****d!

Doh!

Sorry to hear that. Thought you were going reasonably well.

EICVD · 13-11-2018 3:19pm

Bonniedog wrote: »

Doh!

Sorry to hear that. Thought you were going reasonably well.

Div 3 team avoided relegation the last few years, still relying on ‘red lad’ who’s around 40 for scores, div 5 team isn’t a team, usually 16 different players each week, still in that league only because there was no relegation due to lack of teams. Junior B & C holding their own but the Bs being cut next season so we’ll actually have a Junior A team but the average age will be about 40 so we won’t be winning many, no potential young lads coming through either. Once our superstar is gone from the Dubs panel he’ll head across the border to join his brothers.

Gael85 · 13-11-2018 3:39pm

EICVD wrote: »

Div 3 team avoided relegation the last few years, still relying on ‘red lad’ who’s around 40 for scores, div 5 team isn’t a team, usually 16 different players each week, still in that league only because there was no relegation due to lack of teams. Junior B & C holding their own but the Bs being cut next season so we’ll actually have a Junior A team but the average age will be about 40 so we won’t be winning many, no potential young lads coming through either. Once our superstar is gone from the Dubs panel he’ll head across the border to join his brothers.

Sorry to hear that. Saw against Good Counsel and was surprised how bad ye were. Ciaran McGuinness was going well. Hynes the Dublin lad on u20s was poor that day. Lowndes didn't stand out. Like a lot of Dublin lads who struggle when go back to clubs. Robbie McCarthy and the Lowndes brothers were huge loses when left years ago. Where did Karl O'Connor go to? Remember him playing midfield with Dublin minors about 10 years ago.

GalwayLurker · 13-11-2018 10:54pm

Jaden wrote: »

There is nothing small about Corofin's catchment area or setup. Sure their training grounds in Belclare must be 7 or 8 miles from the town itself, and is still in the catchment area.

That's roughly the same distance as separates NaFianna's ground with Ballybodens - on opposite sides of the city.

There's no town in Corofin, it's a rural village. Corofin is made up of 2 half parishes. This talk within the county of the club being too big and should be split is also nonsense, Salthill and St James would have bigger playing numbers but still don't have a patch of the success Corofin do, what Corofin do have is a serious underage development structure which has seen them become the success that they are. If you even look at this year more talented youngsters like Dylan Canney and Darragh Silke are stepping up when it matters, the conveyor belt keeps going.

Bonniedog · 13-11-2018 10:57pm

Mmmm. Split the successful club/county to give the others a chance.

Rings a bell!

downthemiddle · 13-11-2018 11:25pm

EICVD wrote: »

Div 3 team avoided relegation the last few years, still relying on ‘red lad’ who’s around 40 for scores, div 5 team isn’t a team, usually 16 different players each week, still in that league only because there was no relegation due to lack of teams. Junior B & C holding their own but the Bs being cut next season so we’ll actually have a Junior A team but the average age will be about 40 so we won’t be winning many, no potential young lads coming through either. Once our superstar is gone from the Dubs panel he’ll head across the border to join his brothers.

Vinnie's parting shot was a classic though!!!

Jaden · 14-11-2018 9:10am

GalwayLurker wrote: »

There's no town in Corofin, it's a rural village. Corofin is made up of 2 half parishes

I was using the word town loosely. Still it's bigger than Belclare, which is essentially 3 buildings.

As for splitting? When someone mentions the need to split a team, then you know that team is doing something right.

GalwayLurker · 14-11-2018 7:06pm

The village of Corofin? Pretty much the same size as Belclare village with a church, a pub, a shop and the GAA pitch. The surrounding villages stretch further than those around Belclare alright.

Jaden · 15-11-2018 11:52am

GalwayLurker wrote: »

The village of Corofin? Pretty much the same size as Belclare village with a church, a pub, a shop and the GAA pitch. The surrounding villages stretch further than those around Belclare alright.

How dare you!!

Belclare has a fine community center as well. Under-reporting the size of the place by 20%. For Shame.

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-11-2018 5:09pm

Sounds like some game going on between Ballyboden and Coolderry. Currently 5-25 to 4-25 in extra time.

Slattsy · 18-11-2018 5:11pm

Surely a new scoring record?

KevIRL · 18-11-2018 5:16pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Sounds like some game going on between Ballyboden and Coolderry. Currently 5-25 to 4-25 in extra time.

In extra extra time. Finished level at end of regular extra time

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-11-2018 5:17pm

KevIRL wrote: »

In extra extra time. Finished level at end of regular extra time

Level again at 5-25 each going into the second half of extra extra time.

KevIRL · 18-11-2018 5:19pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Level again at 5-25 each going into the second half of extra extra time.

And coolderry down to 13 men for that second period. Conal keaney red for ballyboden

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-11-2018 5:24pm

Finished in favour of Boden 5-28 to 5-25, would love to have seen it.

OldMrBrennan83 · 18-11-2018 5:33pm

20-82 scored in the Leinster semi's today. Think I might pop along to that final.

castletownman · 18-11-2018 11:19pm

Open for correction, but surely Brian Carroll's 2-16 is a record tally for a team that lost?

Bonniedog · 18-11-2018 11:29pm

castletownman wrote: »

Open for correction, but surely Brian Carroll's 2-16 is a record tally for a team that lost?

Must be close. Didn't Canning get some mad score against Cork about 8/9 years ago? Wasn't 2 - 16. 2 - 13 maybe.

Boden are making hard work of this!

Drew Dublin final after extra time. Won reply. Extra time against Clonkill and now two periods of extra time today. All in space of a month.

It's a bit mad too given all the hullaballoo about clubs that they run off county championships and provincials week after week practically for two months and then have three months to play the other two games. Ballygunner won't hurl again until February. Surely there is a case for having provincial finals after Christmas and not having multiple periods of extra time, exciting as they are in fairness,

chinguetti · 19-11-2018 7:23am

Folks, would anyone have a schedule or dates for the all the various provincial finals along with the semi final/final dates etc for all. I can find the provincial details but can't find for the life of me the semi and final details. Thanks

OldMrBrennan83 · 19-11-2018 7:33am

chinguetti wrote: »

Folks, would anyone have a schedule or dates for the all the various provincial finals along with the semi final/final dates etc for all. I can find the provincial details but can't find for the life of me the semi and final details. Thanks

Where did you see the provincial details? I couldn't see anything for a venue or time for the Leinster hurling.

cj maxx · 25-11-2018 7:57pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Where did you see the provincial details? I couldn't see anything for a venue or time for the Leinster hurling.

Yeah ,nothing on the gaa site about where the ulster final is on ,probably omagh,

OldMrBrennan83 · 25-11-2018 7:59pm

cjmc wrote: »

Yeah ,nothing on the gaa site about where the ulster final is on ,probably omagh,

Who's in it, Gweedore and Scotstown?

cj maxx · 25-11-2018 8:01pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Who's in it, Gweedore and Scotstown?

Yeah, so I'm guessing Omagh ? Irvinestown?

OldMrBrennan83 · 25-11-2018 8:01pm

cjmc wrote: »

Yeah, so I'm guessing Omagh ?

Would seem about right to me anyway.

Edit - yeah it is. 14:00 in Healy Park. It's on Ulster.gaa.ie.

Always forget the provincial sites. The Leinster hurling is on in Carlow not Portlaoise. Hope they've grown some grass on it.

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cj maxx · 25-11-2018 8:12pm

Patww79 wrote: »

Would seem about right to me anyway.

Edit - yeah it is. 14:00 in Healy Park. It's on Ulster.gaa.ie.

Always forget the provincial sites. The Leinster hurling is on in Carlow not Portlaoise. Hope they've grown some grass on it.

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Went to the ulster site and still couldn't fin it !!

OldMrBrennan83 · 25-11-2018 8:15pm

cjmc wrote: »

Went to the ulster site and still couldn't fin it !!

It's a weird site as you can't link the specific page but go to http://ulster.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/ and then pick the 2018 football senior club championship from the drop down menu at the top (8 down the list).

Club Championships 2018-19

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