Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies at 87

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No, he/America are reaping what having someone like Obama in power sowed.



Eh, how exactly is there hypocrisy there

The seat should be filled asap. As he said when he learned of her death, you can still disagree with her but respect her. You seem to have some bizarre notion that that the only way of paying respects to her is to do what she (and other democrats) wanted/want him to do and that's ridiculous.

Besides, your comment is just deflection and doesn't address how these people are being highly disrespectful to act that way in front of her casket. There can be no justification for it.

Who mentioned hypocrisy?

RGB was no fan of Trump, No condemnation from her family so if they are OK with Trump being booed by the crowd then I'm not sure why you guys are getting all upset about it.

Danzy wrote: »

The grave side, the funeral service etc should always be outside of political rows and jeering.

Unfortunately Trump didn't get that memo, as I said earlier, he's reaping what he sowed

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-47642335

US President Donald Trump has attacked the late Senator John McCain, complaining that he "didn't get a thank you" for his state funeral.

"We sent him on the way, but I wasn't a fan of John McCain," the president said during a visit to an Ohio tank factory.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who mentioned hypocrisy?

You implied it when you mentioned the t-shirts, as if him paying respects wasn't genuine.

If that's not the case, and you feel he was being genuine, then you should be condemning those disrespectful lefties yourself.

RGB was no fan of Trump, No condemnation from her family so if they are OK with Trump being booed by the crowd then I'm not sure why you guys are getting all upset about it.

Because we (non-leftists) in Western Society still generally have respect for such occasions.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You implied it when you mentioned the t-shirts, as if him paying respects wasn't genuine.

If that's not the case, and you feel he was being genuine, then you should be condemning those disrespectful lefties yourself.



Because we (non-leftists) in Western Society still generally have respect for such occasions.

Unless it's raining

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Nonsense. We could tell from how he responded the moment he learned of her death how genuine he was about paying his respects to her. Quite clear that he has more class in that regard than the baying mob who couldn't care less that she was laying there in her casket. They were there to hurl abuse and hopefully try and hurt his chances of reelection.



That's a weak rebuttal. Point stands.

Ah stop with the faux outrage pete, you have defended every scummy little thing Trump has done for four years, now he is getting a taste of his own medicine you have suddenly gotten very concerned.

As I said, reaping what he has sown.

DangerScouse wrote: »

That's lefties for you.

Mod: These soundbites without substance are a recurring theme in in how you post across the entire forum. Consider yourself banned from this thread. Further non substance posts like this will result in further thpeadbans.

One lawyers opinion on Amy Coney Barrett - in a word pro government authoritarian.




There may be a surprise appointment out of leftfield - Stephanie Dawkins Davis.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

And so it begins, as just was the case with Justice Kavanaugh, the left are now doing whatever they can to damage the credibility of Amy Coney Barrett by questioning the circumstances surrounding the adoption of her two children from Haiti.

Good to see Meghan McCain speak out against it:


https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1309706919385464834

Are they? Where?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

And so it begins, as just was the case with Justice Kavanaugh, the left are now doing whatever they can to damage the credibility of Amy Coney Barrett by questioning the circumstances surrounding the adoption of her two children from Haiti.

Good to see Meghan McCain speak out against it:


https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1309706919385464834

Their fallen hero supported partial birth abortion, which even pro choice people find appalling.

Don't be looking for a high bar with the Dems.

Tony EH wrote: »

They really won't you know. :pac:

Left of Trump anyway

What I find extraordinary is that the US has decided to stack it's supreme court with partisans that interpret the law based on personal biases rather than in a clear-headed way.

It's utterly ridiculous that before a judgement is given that the way the US SC votes can be predicted with near perfect accuracy most of the time.

Then again that's the way the US has decided to govern itself and we really have no place to judge. It's for them and them alone.

suicide_circus wrote: »

There are no depths to which they will not sink - and i'm talking both sides.

The hyperbole and vitriol is utterly absurd.

If Trump wins, Americans will live in a right leaning democracy.

If Biden wins, Americans will live in a left leaning democracy.

In both cases the sun will continue to rise every morning, people will go to work and raise their kids.

I'd say yes and no, yes in practice things will function pretty much as you laid it out there from an economic POV. And being honest, I dont think it matters that much which one is elected in terms of policy. Really, what difference does it make - what are the policy differences between Trump and Obama that in themselves have fundamentally changed peoples lives? I dont know....

But the 'No' but is that the US has become more reactionary.

In practice, there were always huge cultural divides in the US, but I think the election of Obama and then of Trump have brought these out into the open.

This divide wassnt always obvious from the outside due to the Hollywood diet of 'what America looks like'. If anything, its concealed by Hollywood.

Two major culture shock moments for me:
(i) taking the subway from Central (all white) Chicago to the Southside - I wanted to visit the house where Muhammed Ali lived, but got out at the wrong stop - wow, it was like going from a first world country to a third world country in the space of a 20 minute train journey. I couldnt fuppin believe it, nothing in Europe could compare. Pre 'The Wire' you really wouldnt have known this world existed the way that it does.

(ii) hitchhiking around rural Texas - a whole different world culturally, but particularly the poverty and lack of education.

Oh come on. Just on immigration alone the democrats have begun expressing views which historically have only ever been expressed by radical leftists. Also, when it comes to social issues such as equality, identity politics, political correctness etc, the democrats absolutely lean to the left. It's absurd to suggest they do not when we hear it out of their mouths regularly.

When there were calls from the left to defund the police, Biden was quick to appease them with:

"I don’t believe police should be defunded, but I think the conditions should be placed upon them where departments are having to take significant reform relating to that. We should set up a national use-of-force standard. If they don’t sign onto it, then in fact, they don’t get any of the federal money..

The democrats become more leftleaning as each day passes.

Deleted User wrote: »

You may hear it out of their mouth but you never see it acted upon.

The democrats are obviously better than the GOP and I'd vote Biden if I was a yank, but the party which was corporate leaning has been infiltrated and arguably taken by over by Never Trumpers. Biden and his team brag about endorsements from Kasich, Mc Cain etc while ghouls like Frum, Kristol and the ****ing lincoln project (neoconservatism for" liberals") dominate the internet with their support of him.

Those on the right who feel that the Democrats will pivot to the left under Biden are crazy, why the hell is wallstreet lining up to give money to Biden?

Tony EH wrote: »

There is no Left in America and the idea that the Democrats are is laughable. Even the likes of Sanders and Cortez are middle-the-roads. The two parties are peas in a pod, made up of liars, charlatans and frauds who lie to fools willing to lap everything up. Both parties are neo-Liberal in their politics, with a hair's breadth ostensibly separating them on minor issues.

I really do pity the floating voter in the States. Their so called political "choices" are routinely appalling and at the end of the day, nothing really changes for the people of the country.

Cortez's Green New Deal was pretty left. It is the kind of thing Saoirse McHugh endorses, what she in terviews calls eco-socialism. Sanders also described himself as socialist. He has always endorsed socialist states. he had his honeymoon in the USSR. I am not sure if you can be centre if you call yourself socialist? Maybe if they use the word social democrat but not socialist.

Brian? wrote: »

Of course he is, no one is arguing he isn't.

Some people are arguing he shouldn't as the Republican Senate set a precedent in 2016.

Clear

so he is doing the exact same barack (for example) did; in nominating someone?

why is that an issue? can someone please spell this out to an uneducated person.

i'm so confused?! its allowed or not allowed. pretty binary.