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Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

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  • #102
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VinLieger wrote: »
    God she was clueless today when discussing the UK proposal of jailing people who look at radical material online
    Yes, that was particularly brutal.

    The criminology academic kept trying to explain why you can't feasibly police these videos, one of which he mentioned has 1.2 million hits; and CK just didn't get it.

    Finally, she 'agreed to disagree' with the expert, and some texter explained to her what the expert had been saying all along, "if 100 people watch a video, and only 5 of them are terrorists, you can't go depriving the other 95 of their liberty" (or words to that effect), which she finally copped was a fair point.


  • #103
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    VinLieger wrote: »
    God she was clueless today when discussing the UK proposal of jailing people who look at radical material online

    Yeah, it was a car crash interview but your man really should have been able to break it down simply for her the way the texter did.


  • #104
    death1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭death1234567


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Yeah, it was a car crash interview but your man really should have been able to break it down simply for her the way the texter did.
    It wasn't exactly rocket science, you'd assume given that she's a doctor she has at least a reasonable level of intelligence.


  • #105
    [Deleted User]
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    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Yeah, it was a car crash interview but your man really should have been able to break it down simply for her the way the texter did.
    that's true, he wasn't a great communicator; but it should be obvious to any intelligent person, as CK is, why it is unacceptable (and impractical) to deprive such a large amount of people of their liberty, however fleeting, for engaging with political ideas that the Government reject.

    That's going down a very dark road, as I think most people were able to understand.


  • #106
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    quintana76 wrote: »
    My original point was that NewsTalk seem to be trying to reboot the lunchtime show. Most regular Hook listeners would not by definition like being preached at. It has now become sermonising central.

    Agree - caught the start today in the car and 'turned the dial', as Newstalk like to say.


  • #107
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,298 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Yeah, it was a car crash interview but your man really should have been able to break it down simply for her the way the texter did.

    He did break it down simply shes just too stuck in her bizarre insistence on trying to be the contrary opinion to everyone shes interviewing that even when its as basic as he put it she refuses to accept the facts.


  • #108
    quintana76
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    See that NewsTalk have just announced that irish Times journalists are now barred from the station as a result of their interference in the Hook affair.
    Bet they weren't expecting that.


  • #109
    ghostdancer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Yes, that was particularly brutal.

    The criminology academic kept trying to explain why you can't feasibly police these videos, one of which he mentioned has 1.2 million hits; and CK just didn't get it.

    Finally, she 'agreed to disagree' with the expert, and some texter explained to her what the expert had been saying all along, "if 100 people watch a video, and only 5 of them are terrorists, you can't go depriving the other 95 of their liberty" (or words to that effect), which she finally copped was a fair point.
    her whole justification for the legislation seemed to be that it was needed "to identify these jihadists", when even a tiny bit of critical thinking on her part would have established that the people who repeatedly watch these videos can be (and are being) monitored already without the legislation. this measure is about jailing people who watch the videos/material, not identifying them.


  • #110
    [Deleted User]
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    See that NewsTalk have just announced that irish Times journalists are now barred from the station as a result of their interference in the Hook affair.
    Bet they weren't expecting that.
    Bizarre.

    This puts Newstalk at a clear disadvantage when it comes to breaking Irish news and investigative reporting when it is broken by the Irish Times.

    As far as I know, The Irish Times is one of only two media outlets in the country with permanently-stationed foreign correspondents. The Independent doesn't have the same capacity to report on short-notice from international breaking news events, and how they might impact Ireland. Brexit, for example.

    Having said that, I think a fair few Irish Times journalists may already be boycotting Newstalk/ Communicorp.


  • #111
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,673 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Sooo...

    No more Gerry Thornley or Conor Pope?

    Who else do they have from the IT?

    Isn't this cutting off their nose to spite their face, ruling out contributors to their shows who haven't even commented on this whole fiasco?

    Or is it, as suspected, another stage in this saga that keeps Newstalk in the national news?


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  • #112
    bloodless_coup
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    Don't read newspapers so didn't realize Gerry Thornley was one of them. What will we do now for Monday / Wednesday night rugby on OTB?


  • #113
    [Deleted User]
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    In light of some posts that have appeared here in the past 24 hours, please see the updated warning in the first post of this thread.


  • #114
    PeterTheNinth
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    quintana76 wrote: »
    See that NewsTalk have just announced that irish Times journalists are now barred from the station as a result of their interference in the Hook affair.
    Bet they weren't expecting that.

    Where'd you see that I can not find mention of it anywhere?

    okay I found it. http://www.thejournal.ie/newstalk-irish-times-3631283-Oct2017/

    So presumably then Newstalk will not allow IT journalists on to their shows until they fire Fintan O'Toole?



    ..


  • #115
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    Where'd you see that I can not find mention of it anywhere?

    okay I found it. http://www.thejournal.ie/newstalk-irish-times-3631283-Oct2017/

    So presumably then Newstalk will not allow IT journalists on to their shows until they fire Fintan O'Toole?



    ..

    Well that's it. I'm done with Newstalk. Outrageous decision.


  • #116
    quintana76
    Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    If it applies to all DOB outlets it could be the beginning of a war of attrition between Do'B and the IT to get O'Toole fired.
    I wouldn't say Fintan is used to being on the receiving end. It will come as a shock.


  • #117
    foxtrot101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    quintana76 wrote: »
    If it applies to all DOB outlets it could be the beginning of a war of attrition between Do'B and the IT to get O'Toole fired.
    I wouldn't say Fintan is used to being on the receiving end. It will come as a shock.

    There's no mention anywhere of anyone wanting O'Toole fired. They asked for an apology and for the retraction of the column, The Irish Times refused. Communicorp could take the IT to court, but they won't.


  • #118
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    So no more dissenting voices allowed on Newstalk.

    Gotta keep their fragile presenter's space safe, I guess :pac:


  • #119
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    For all Newstalk Fans the current issue of Phoenix may be of interest: https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/denis-obrien-to-dump-newstalk/ it won't be missed - by me anyway.

    ****



  • #120
    omerin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭omerin


    The doctor is too lightweight for this show and hasn't got a grasp of the topics she is discussing or the research team are bad. No more evident then when she keeps on saying "and all that kinda stuff", this really annoys me.

    Could they not do us a favour and change the schedule to add 1 hour to the breakfast show (ideally without Williams) then have Pat on until 1.30?


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  • #121
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    In fairness it's still only early days for CK.

    Can she grow into the role I dunno, but it's a bit rash to judge her after only 2 or 3 weeks.


  • #122
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,298 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    For all Newstalk Fans the current issue of Phoenix may be of interest: https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/denis-obrien-to-dump-newstalk/ it won't be missed - by me anyway.

    Theres nothing else remotely similar on irish airwaves so i would definitely miss it, might as well chuck the radio out of the car considering the rest of the grabge that is all that will be available, "hur dur dur listen to how wacky and zany we are, ohh heres another way you can win money by guessing some bizarre thing that we will drag out for longer than any reasonable person has patience for"


  • #123
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭monstermag


    I see Dill got her P45 today, she shot herself in the foot by not turning up for her show, I'm sorry but u can't do that without suffering the consequences.
    This is management showing who's boss. Probably a few more got the hair dryer treatment as well.


  • #124
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    doylefe wrote: »
    Don't read newspapers so didn't realize Gerry Thornley was one of them. What will we do now for Monday / Wednesday night rugby on OTB?

    Same as we've been doing for the last number of weeks, Gavin Cummiskey of the Indo plus random retired players. In fairness, Gav is much more likely to call shenanigans than the whimsical Gerry T.

    I must say the station bosses have balls to let Dil go in the circumstances, just when it was all settling down again, but what she did was disgracefully disloyal and her getting canned was more than justifiable. Her over the top PC attitude and deliberate cheerleading of anything atypical was tiresome and preachy.

    'My pansexual visually impaired wheelchair bound friend from the afro-irish community said to me the other day....'

    Bye Dil.


  • #125
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Since George was not fired there was very little else they could do. I'm sure they don't want "is she back yet", questions popping up every Saturday and then another s***storm in December when George is back. The choice was George or Dil, they went for George who is probably more attractive commercial option anyway.

    Nobody else put themselves in George or me position and I would be surprised if there is much bigger clear out among senior staff.


  • #126
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Why do they keep going for amateur presenters who don't really have presenting experience. Or depth of knowledge? Is there nobody on local radio or working as a journalist who could be given a go? Instead they're going for a GP...


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  • #127
    CatFromHue
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Same as we've been doing for the last number of weeks, Gavin Cummiskey of the Indo plus random retired players. In fairness, Gav is much more likely to call shenanigans than the whimsical Gerry T.

    Cummiskey writes in the IT too so he's gone as well.


  • #128
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Dil got the sack. LOL

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/newstalk-presenter-who-criticised-station-is-taken-off-air-1.3246122?mode=amp


  • #129
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Dil got the sack. LOL

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/newstalk-presenter-who-criticised-station-is-taken-off-air-1.3246122?mode=amp
    Just for criticizing the station?


  • #130
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    She refused to do her job until a colleague was taken off the air. Newstalk management quite rightly decided, we make the decisions not you.
    Could anyone else in another job refuse to come in until a colleague is sacked?
    Who does she think she is?
    Newstalk is on very thin ice as it is with rumours the plug could be pulled, they don't need the likes of Dil trying to call the shots.


  • #131
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    yosser hughes wrote: »
    She refused to do her job until a colleague was taken off the air. Newstalk management quite rightly decided, we make the decisions not you.
    Could anyone else in another job refuse to come in until a colleague is sacked?
    Who does she think she is?
    Newstalk is on very thin ice as it is with rumours the plug could be pulled, they don't need the likes of Dil trying to call the shots.
    No more Newstalk?


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  • #132
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    MikeyTaylor wrote: »
    No more Newstalk?

    Change of ownership more likely, which is an interesting proposition in itself. Communicorp gets a lot of stick (rightly IMO) and theyve made some truly dreadful decisions around their portfolio in the last 18 months, but imagine someone like Global Radio who owns LBC taking over, could go from bad to worse.


  • #133
    [Deleted User]
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Change of ownership more likely
    If Communicorp cannot make a profit out of the station, with all the cost-savings they have from consolidating their reporting and broadcasting costs with 98FM, Spin, Today FM and INM, it may simply be an unprofitable venture in a small market like Ireland.

    The problem of the small Irish market is compounded by having to compete with a very well resourced, public-funded broadcaster.


  • #134
    PeterTheNinth
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Change of ownership more likely, which is an interesting proposition in itself. Communicorp gets a lot of stick (rightly IMO) and theyve made some truly dreadful decisions around their portfolio in the last 18 months.

    I still can't understand what they did with Newstalk and the schedule. It was like they were deliberately trying to burn it down for the insurance.


  • #135
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭monstermag


    The newstalk 20 must be quite nervous right now, that petition wouldn't have gone down well with management.
    I can't see Dinny trowing in the towel and giving up on newstalk, that would be admitting failure.He probably told management to get their act together or ship out.


  • #136
    southstar
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭southstar


    quintana76 wrote: »
    My original point was that NewsTalk seem to be trying to reboot the lunchtime show. Most regular Hook listeners would not by definition like being preached at. It has now become sermonising
    central.

    Jay's us she got taught well enough about sermonizing by Hook... and that irritating American bollix he used to lick up to... maybe taught too well


  • #137
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,673 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    I kinda like Dr Ciara on the lighter stuff. Not amazing, but not too bad at all.

    Who picks the topics, though? I flicked it on yesterday to hear her say "Now for something completely different, a WHO report on an outbreak of the plague!"

    I know it is news, but jeaysus I get fed up with all the medical/sickness stuff. Especially at lunchtime.


  • #138
    newcavanman
    Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭newcavanman


    vince wrote: »
    Future jnlrs will be interesting for Sanitized Fm. All my family have tuned out now.

    Do you think they are really accurate,? I dont think they showed a big drop when Chris and Sarah took over drivetime, and they were absolutely pathethic,, even worse perhaps than Mother Ciara of Greystones


  • #139
    vince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    I was supprised at chris and sarahs figure s myself.


  • #140
    __..__
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭__..__


    I thought they were broken but I think I've got it down to one voice.
    My Bluetooth headphones crackle sometimes, but it's only recently I figured out that only Ciara Kellys voice crackles. So much so if she is on the radio or a podcast I have to turn it off.
    Her guests don't and no other podcasts do either.
    I know it sounds like a joke but it's not.
    Is there any explanation for this?


  • #141
    Hooks Golf Handicap
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 233 ✭✭Hooks Golf Handicap


    The good doctor got the gig full-time.
    I actually like her.


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  • #142
    maxwell smart
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    Hooks Golf Handicap wrote: »
    The food doctor got the gig full-time.
    I actually like her.

    No way. That's newstalk never on at that time for me. Can't stand her, she is like Ray D'arcy, a boring know it all


  • #143
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Just updated the thread title there.

    I was hoping they'd give it to Cuddihy, as I said before I kept Newstalk at that time for the first time in over a year when he was on, no real shock that Kelly got it though.


  • #144
    Grolschevik
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    Like Cuddihy myself. He comes across as actually unapologetically left-liberal, which I found refreshing, despite what many denizens of this forum may argue.

    Kelly... Meh. Reckon she could use a couple of hours briefing on topics before each show...


  • #145
    MikeenRonanJr
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭MikeenRonanJr


    I'd actually prefer it given to Kelly over Cuddihy. Been listening as usual over the past few weeks, the man is like a walking "liberal lefty" stereotype. There was one stage, when reading out a reasonable text about mass third world immigration (Not all people who are weary of it are racist was the general gist), he said "thats right, not all racist, selfish as well". I genuinely cannot fathom how some people can have that reaction to "I don't desire unlimited mass immigration into my homeland".


  • #146
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    You won't last long on Boards with that outlook.

    ****



  • #147
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭monstermag


    Grolschevik wrote: »
    Like Cuddihy myself. He comes across as actually unapologetically left-liberal, which I found refreshing, despite what many denizens of this forum may argue.

    Kelly... Meh. Reckon she could use a couple of hours briefing on topics before each show...
    Cuddihy makes Jonathan Healy sound like Alex Jones. Having said that I don't mind him that much.
    Is there any moderate voice left in Irish media? Pat Kenny threads the fine line between left and right, and all the better for it. There's very few broadcasters who can handle a wide range of topics and ciara Kelly is not one of them, she's competent and l do like her but she doesn't make me want to turn on the radio or feel I'd miss anything by not listening. No matter what u say about George hook, u must admit he could handle any topic and add to it. Pak Kenny is the same. Gerry Ryan was probably the master of radio an absolute genius at the art of broadcasting, there was nothing he couldn't deal with, music, politics, sport, religion, comedy, arts, health, sex, etc. Broadcasters like that don't come around that often. No matter who newstalk get, they're going to be pretty much the same. Blandness seem to be name of the game theses days.


  • #148
    constitutionus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    So it's official.

    Well bye bye newstalk, I won't be listening.

    Thanks to the poster that put me in the direction of Éamonn Dunphys "the stand" podcast.

    It's been doing a fine job filling the hour after sean ó Rourke show to the one o clock news.

    This whole affair along with William's and mcinnerny have soured me big time to the station.

    Honestly can't think of anything like it in the past. It's almost a guide of "how to pissoff your audience and alienate them".

    The only thing I can think of that compares is what marvel comics have done the last 2 years. No surprise the same Sjw nonsense was at its core too


  • #149
    ghostdancer
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    monstermag wrote: »
    No matter what u say about George hook, u must admit he could handle any topic and add to it.
    Nope.
    He detracted from several potentially sensible discussions with his ignorance and ill-informed bluster.


  • #150
    reg114
    Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    Quite why someone would want to give up a noble profession like medicine to enter the volatile world of media, on less pay, is puzzling but good luck to her.


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  • #151
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    reg114 wrote:
    Quite why someone would want to give up a noble profession like medicine to enter the volatile world of media, on less pay, is puzzling but good luck to her.

    No doubt she will still own and operate her practice, but employ a locum doctor to take her place on less money than she was taking home.


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