Random Wrasslin' thoughts.....

DM_7 · 06-07-2013 11:53pm

GTR63 wrote: »

Ape Lincoln · 08-07-2013 1:37am

Just watched Wrestle Talk TV on Challenge tonight and they'd an interview with Davey Boy Smith's son Harry. He was talking about all the rules WWE have about matches and the banned moves. Stuff like, in tag matches yr only allowed a certain number of false finishes and the tag partner on the apron can only make the save once or the ref will get orders over his (why are there no women referees?) earpiece to finish the match with a DQ. It's stuff like where WWE overproduce wrestler's matches that makes it hard for me to enjoy WWE. WWF always had a particular style with lots of things worked out beforehand but the ref getting instructions mid-match especially ruins things I think as the wrestlers aren't allowed to work.

Tim White talks about the ref's getting instructions from the back through the earpiece in Steve Austin's latest Podcast.

I often wonder what American wrestling and I guess wrestling in general will look like in 20 years time with the way they're going with it being so over produced. Dave Meltzer often talks about how there are so many similarities between WWE and the UFC (promoting a show featuring fights), key difference being one is a legit sport and the other a work but it's this comparisson that Vince has long sought to distance WWE - and since he thinks he owns wrestling, also wrestling in general.

Although I couldn't help but think that Smith was the mark since he was so excited to be doing dangerous moves that are banned in WWE because he's surely getting less money .

downonthefarm · 08-07-2013 1:42am

DM-ICE wrote: »

aj you little fox you can kick me in the face anytime:D

GTR63 · 08-07-2013 4:21am

DM-ICE wrote: »

COUNTER!!!

eass82 · 08-07-2013 12:52pm

Ok, maybe I'm loosing it in my old age, but when I saw this pic in a rugby article earlier

All I could think of was this:

Anyone else see the likeness between BOD and Cena or am I just mad? I think its in the jawline

Maybe if his wife still wants to act in America, WWE could find a space for BoD on the roster. JBL would love it anyway, he loves the rugby, and imagine the potential for a northsider/southsider feud with Sheamus?

andyman · 08-07-2013 1:56pm

eass82 wrote: »

Maybe if his wife still wants to act in America, WWE could find a space for BoD on the roster. JBL would love it anyway, he loves the rugby, and imagine the potential for a northsider/southsider feud with Sheamus?

I was thinking something like this. BOD shows up at a RAW event, Zeb Colter and Cesaro come out and Zeb starts slatting the large Irish contingent on their J1s in the arena, takes a swipe at BOD and invites him to the ring, BOD obliges, the two exchange words, Zeb and Cesaro pretend to leave the ring before Cesaro turns and runs into a BOD dump-tackle.

That would be so awesome

srfc d16 · 08-07-2013 5:45pm

eass82 wrote: »

Maybe if his wife still wants to act in America, WWE could find a space for BoD on the roster. JBL would love it anyway, he loves the rugby, and imagine the potential for a northsider/southsider feud with Sheamus?

They're both northsiders though?

:P

Mick Murdock · 09-07-2013 11:11am

Even Heyman can't save Curtis Axel.. He's terrible.

bobby_says_hi · 09-07-2013 4:15pm

downonthefarm wrote: »

I think AJ is good with her character but her wrestling has seriously gone downhill since she was first signed. Last year it was cringeworthy to see her attempting to do the 'crazy brawl' thing in all her matches. If you watch her stuff from FCW when she was first signed, her matches are a whole lot better than her lacklustre performances over the past year. I'll admit she's stepped up her game somewhat since she won the title but the likes of Layla, Natalya, Naomi, Kaitlyn and Aksana have all been outperforming her over the past few months

The cheif stands alone · 09-07-2013 7:35pm

Taryn Terrell in TNA needs to re-sign to WWE, Her matches with Gail Kim have been excellent, A lot of credit is due to Gail, But she checks all the boxes and I think her mic skills are strong, Obviously she's a complete stunner but I think she's the whole package. Fits the profile for the diva's talent pool anyways.

DM_7 · 09-07-2013 7:43pm

WWE is PG now, she has a less than PG photo and video history. I don't think any of the current divas have that sort of history and any that did all seem to have moved on in recent times. Maryse, Mickie James etc.

GTR63 · 09-07-2013 7:52pm

DM-ICE wrote: »

WWE is PG now, she has a less than PG photo and video history. I don't think any of the current divas have that sort of history and any that did all seem to have moved on in recent times. Maryse, Mickie James etc.

They moved on cause they realised the Diva division was a waste of time to WWE. Same reason Phoenix left.
Tarrell kinda burned her bridges when she left iirc and was a very odd Tna signing at the time.

DM_7 · 09-07-2013 8:02pm

I knew they left for other reasons. I figured the fact they are not signing ex playboy models these says was something to do with pg. I am probably wrong about that though.

Taryn/Tiffany had issues with the marriage to Drew as well, fighting in hotels and all that.

The cheif stands alone · 09-07-2013 8:51pm

It's mad, I never realized the bad blood there. I know Gail Kim had war with WWE to get out of contract, The divas division had its moments, I don't usually watch many of the diva's segments/matches except AJ but the divas division could be worse, I mean they where very lucky not to get done for sexism in the thong stink-face days of the 90's. But they have produced & had some great performers, Victoria, Gail, Lita,Trish. I dunno if the Bella's, Eve, Kaitlyn, really are on par.. Natalya is one of the only ones I feel is up there performance wise, but I could be getting awfully nostalgic about the early 00's divas.

rovert · 09-07-2013 10:22pm

Terrell has less of a chance to be hired than Melina does.

bobby_says_hi · 10-07-2013 2:33am

I don't think Layla gets enough credit for how much she has improved in the ring. I thought she was doing ok when she was in LayCool but when she returned last year it was like a different person out there. Her bumps, her selling, her execution of moves...she's a Diva that gets it. I wasn't even a fan before she got injured and her return match wowed me. I'd honestly rank her second behind Natalya in terms of reliability. She's gotten three decent matches out of Tamina, really brings out the best in Aksana and also worked very well with Audrey Marie when she went to NXT. Plus she's one of the few Divas that actually bothers to work the crowd. Plus she looks damn fine for 36

Arawn · 15-07-2013 12:26pm

Watching backlash 2000. Apa vs bossman and buchannon...the ref is teddy long. He ****ing loves him some tag team action

Machismo Fan · 15-09-2013 6:07pm

It's a shame Sean Waltman's 2005 TNA run ended the way it did because he was doing some really good stuff.

Omackeral · 18-10-2013 2:35pm

Random thought... After winning the titles on Monday night, Cody Rhodes has held the tag team championships with;

Goldust
Drew McIntyre
Ted DiBiase
Hardcore Holly
(and almost Damien Sandow)

He's kinda prolific but you might not have thought it.

Breaking Blog · 18-10-2013 2:48pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Random thought... After winning the titles on Monday night, Cody Rhodes has held the tag team championships with;

Goldust
Drew McIntyre
Ted DiBiase
Hardcore Holly
(and almost Damien Sandow)

He's kinda prolific but you might not have thought it.

Such a rag-tag bunch! I wonder which superstar has held the titles the most times with different partners? Show maybe? Or Jericho? Total guesswork ha.

Omackeral · 18-10-2013 3:04pm

Kane must be a contender.

Mankind
Daniel Bryan
Undertaker
RVD
X-Pac
Big Show
The Hurricane

Breaking Blog · 18-10-2013 3:07pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Kane must be a contender.

Mankind
Daniel Bryan
Undertaker
RVD
X-Pac
Big Show
The Hurricane

How could I forget Kane, I would say that you are probably correct! Speaking of Kane, was expecting such a better follow up to the Wyatt abduction angle!

Omackeral · 18-10-2013 3:11pm

It hasn't happened yet though has it? (He is away filming See No Evil 2 i think) He'll be back... But will it be under their influence or against them?

Breaking Blog · 18-10-2013 3:13pm

Omackeral wrote: »

It hasn't happened yet though has it? (He is away filming See No Evil 2 i think) He'll be back... But will it be under their influence or against them?

Ah cool, that explains his absence I guess. They really haven't mentioned him much at all from what I recall, thought they might have played it up a bit more. Hopefully it will be good, would like to see him brought back as a brainwashed member of the family.

sockmo · 18-10-2013 3:52pm

If I was in control... I'd have Kane return as Glenn jacobs in casual clothing with a real disturbed persona, he never talks, we can have it seem like the wyatts brainwashed him to be back like original Kane but without the spandex, what u think?

Omackeral · 18-10-2013 3:58pm

sockmo wrote: »

If I was in control... I'd have Kane return as Glenn jacobs in casual clothing with a real disturbed persona, he never talks, we can have it seem like the wyatts brainwashed him to be back like original Kane but without the spandex, what u think?

Sounds good but it's reminding me of Festus, albeit in a reversed role. (Maybe it's something to do with the fact Gallows played the Fake Kane too!)

gerrybbadd · 18-10-2013 4:16pm

I've a feeling he'll be back as a destroyer for the Wyatts, with a sheep mask on!

gnfnrhead · 18-10-2013 4:55pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Random thought... After winning the titles on Monday night, Cody Rhodes has held the tag team championships with;

Goldust
Drew McIntyre
Ted DiBiase
Hardcore Holly
(and almost Damien Sandow)

He's kinda prolific but you might not have thought it.

Doesnt bode well for Goldy. diBiase and Holly are no longer employed and McIntyre probably wishes he wasnt either.

jaykhunter · 20-10-2013 12:04pm

I'm sick of authority figures in wrestling. Is there really a need to put over/focus every week on people who aren't going to wrestle, who don't add to the buyrate, who aren't going to appear on house shows? "Oh I can't wait for that Triple H promo at the PPV!"

WWF got on just fine for ~14 years without a weekly figure keeping everyone in line. It meant that whenever Jack Tunney came out, it was so important that he had to show his face, and only if absolutely necessary, step out from behind the curtain. No let's just fail at trying to recreate Austin/McMahon for the rest of time

It's not like Triple H's heat is rubbing off on his cronies.

rovert · 20-10-2013 12:08pm

I wonder what Jack Tunney's entrance music would have been.

mrkiscool2 · 20-10-2013 12:08pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

I'm sick of authority figures in wrestling. Is there really a need to put over/focus every week on people who aren't going to wrestle, who don't add to the buyrate, who aren't going to appear on house shows? "Oh I can't wait for that Triple H promo at the PPV!" WWF got on just fine for ~14 years without a weekly figure keeping everyone in line. It meant that whenever Jack Tunney came out, it was so important that he had to show his face, and only if absolutely necessary, step out from behind the curtain. No let's just fail at trying to recreate Austin/McMahon for the rest of time It's not like Triple H's heat is rubbing off on his cronies.

You have to realise that most Americans have this big fantasy to stand up to the boss and stick it to them, to beat them at their own game. So when an authority figure comes in and starts throwing his weight around someone standing up to them makes the crowd go crazy and it means the audience can see their fantasy come to life in a way! That's what put SCSA over even more than he was, that's why D. Bryan (less so), Cody and Show are now super over because they are standing up to the boss and his cronies, so that's why it works!

gerrybbadd · 20-10-2013 12:10pm

rovert wrote: »

I wonder what Jack Tunney's entrance music would have been.

Probably the awful Wrestlemania theme Linda walks out to

jaykhunter · 20-10-2013 12:21pm

Probably the Mania theme alright. Authority figures shouldn't have entrance music though. Kayfabe makes no sense (they're not a featured attraction), it's quite egotistical, and the "shock" of having no music is actually great for generating heat. Vickie's done extremely well without a theme. If you remember Kozlov actually got great heat in his entrance until he got a song.

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

You have to realise that most Americans have this big fantasy to stand up to the boss and stick it to them, to beat them at their own game.

This makes sense, but it doesn't look like it's translated to interest (i.e. TV ratings are not great, PPV estimate for S'Slam isn't great)

While I'm at it, I'm sick of hearing about corporate stuff on TV - Triple H promos are the worst offenders. "CM Punk, I paid for your new entrance theme" ... "since I did this, TV ratings and buyrates are up". I don't want my TV show telling me the business side of the TV show! Even going back to "the brand extension" in 2002, what a horrible, soulless name for cutting your roster in 2.

Rjd2 · 20-10-2013 12:57pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Probably the Mania theme alright. Authority figures shouldn't have entrance music though. Kayfabe makes no sense (they're not a featured attraction), it's quite egotistical, and the "shock" of having no music is actually great for generating heat. Vickie's done extremely well without a theme. If you remember Kozlov actually got great heat in his entrance until he got a song.

This makes sense, but it doesn't look like it's translated to interest (i.e. TV ratings are not great, PPV estimate for S'Slam isn't great)

While I'm at it, I'm sick of hearing about corporate stuff on TV - Triple H promos are the worst offenders. "CM Punk, I paid for your new entrance theme" ... "since I did this, TV ratings and buyrates are up". I don't want my TV show telling me the business side of the TV show! Even going back to "the brand extension" in 2002, what a horrible, soulless name for cutting your roster in 2.

Yeah the insider stuff is to jarring at times Trips and Punk were really bad with it.
"This is Paul Levesque taking to Phil Brooks" etc..

And I remember the final promo between Cena and Punk before a summerslam ppv, they were talking about workrate ffs.

Omackeral · 20-10-2013 1:32pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Probably the awful Wrestlemania theme Linda walks out to

DO DO DO DO DOO DOOOO!!!

Beat me to it Gerry ya pup. Exactly what I was thinking. Kozlov's silent entrance was good and all but his Rammsteinn-esque music was killer. Loved that one.

Does Maddox have a theme tune?

GTR63 · 20-10-2013 3:18pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

I'm sick of authority figures in wrestling. Is there really a need to put over/focus every week on people who aren't going to wrestle, who don't add to the buyrate, who aren't going to appear on house shows? "Oh I can't wait for that Triple H promo at the PPV!" WWF got on just fine for ~14 years without a weekly figure keeping everyone in line. It meant that whenever Jack Tunney came out, it was so important that he had to show his face, and only if absolutely necessary, step out from behind the curtain. No let's just fail at trying to recreate Austin/McMahon for the rest of time It's not like Triple H's heat is rubbing off on his cronies.

I don`t get the need for HHH to be rammed down our throats every week he`s already been overpushed as the main heel for over a fúcking decade now, we get it already.

SimonQuinlank · 20-10-2013 7:05pm

It's GM overkill at the moment.

Vickie,Maddox,Booker and HHH/Steph too,such a waste of time having so many.

Riddle101 · 20-10-2013 8:09pm

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

It's GM overkill at the moment.

Vickie,Maddox,Booker and HHH/Steph too,such a waste of time having so many.

It just makes it easier for both shows really. HHH and Steph don't need to be on every show, so Vickie makes it easier, and I suppose Maddox does a good job of playing the lackey.

GTR63 · 20-10-2013 10:29pm

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

It's GM overkill at the moment.

Vickie,Maddox,Booker and HHH/Steph too,such a waste of time having so many.

Why does he turn up to each show. He has no on screen role at all

jaykhunter · 20-10-2013 10:38pm

GTR63 wrote: »

Why does he turn up to each show. He has no on screen role at all

Hey buddy he's the greatest World Champion of all time by a landslide :P

sockmo · 20-10-2013 10:43pm

Heres a random wrasslin thought, i feel like Stephanie is starting to resemble vince now as she gets older.. puts an interesting twist into all those teenage ****.

2nd Row Donkey · 20-10-2013 10:58pm

sockmo wrote: »

Heres a random wrasslin thought, i feel like Stephanie is starting to resemble vince now as she gets older.. puts an interesting twist into all those teenage ****.

Teenage ?.?!!

sockmo · 20-10-2013 11:13pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Teenage ?.?!!

Yes . 98/99 I was 14

Charisteas · 20-10-2013 11:18pm

sockmo wrote: »

Yes .

I think he means why did you stop :pac:

Charisteas · 20-10-2013 11:19pm

Random wrestling thought, or thoughts; you know you have a problem when you start comparing your workplace politics to wrestling politics. Or just comparing things in the outside world in general to wrestling.

sockmo · 20-10-2013 11:26pm

**** jokes aside, I for one welcome the new corporate angle. Though as I say; if I was in charge I'd have them allaaa the one management/corporate force, vince needs more tv time! Vicky teddy maddox all need to be there so we can have dynamics within the group. id push maddox into a sympathetic face/ underdog role andlet him wrestle properly.maybe taking on orton or something. He's gold, I don't get why people hate him other than him being meant as a heel

SimonQuinlank · 20-10-2013 11:37pm

sockmo wrote: »

Yes . 98/99 I was 14

She didn't really get hot til 2001 imo.

sockmo · 21-10-2013 12:27am

Would love to see her without makeup , it would just be female vince!, I always thought she was hot, just lately she's getting more vince, I think it's the chin!