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Juicing

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  • #202
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Jesus christ man enough of the smiley faces, no one here is amused by your inane input. Bruno26 is dead right juicing programs are total nonsense and are unsustainable and are usually carried out by people who don't have the commitment to stick to a proper diet full time.

    Jesus! :eek: Another one!! :D:D:D:) :P ;)

    So why don't you go start an Anti-Juicing thread? :confused::confused:

    I promise not to contribute to that thread !! :rolleyes:


  • #203
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Jesus! :eek: Another one!! :D:D:D:) :P ;)

    So why don't you go start an Anti-Juicing thread? :confused::confused:

    I promise not to contribute to that thread !! :rolleyes:

    Childish beyond belief...


  • #204
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Childish beyond belief...

    You said it!!


  • #205
    Mark Tapley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Mark Tapley


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Jesus christ man enough of the smiley faces, no one here is amused by your inane input. Bruno26 is dead right juicing programs are total nonsense and are unsustainable and are usually carried out by people who don't have the commitment to stick to a proper diet full time.

    Do you think exchanging one meal a day for blended juiced veg or fruit would be beneficial. I think it is probably a lazy option but I would like to be a bit more health conscious not for purposes of losing weight. I would say your comment about commitment would apply to me. I have no idea about diet and nutrition didn't realise it is such an emotive subject.


  • #206
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I don't believe I said that to you ........ but if I had said that to you then congratulations on the comeback ........ "Juiceman"!!! :D

    Juiceman or a juicerian / liquiderian for the 30 day juicefest!


  • #207
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    Mark Tapley wrote: »
    Do you think exchanging one meal a day for blended juiced veg or fruit would be beneficial. I think it is probably a lazy option but I would like to be a bit more health conscious not for purposes of losing weight. I would say your comment about commitment would apply to me. I have no idea about diet and nutrition didn't realise it is such an emotive subject.

    It wouldn't be beneficial if you are getting in exactly the same stuff as if you were eating it but it certainly wouldn't be detrimental to your diet either. It would simply be a replacement for the same un-juiced meal. Incorporating juices into your diet is no problem at all, just don't go on these ridiculous week long programs of only drinking juice.


  • #208
    homemadecider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭homemadecider


    Mark Tapley wrote: »
    Do you think exchanging one meal a day for blended juiced veg or fruit would be beneficial. I think it is probably a lazy option but I would like to be a bit more health conscious not for purposes of losing weight. I would say your comment about commitment would apply to me. I have no idea about diet and nutrition didn't realise it is such an emotive subject.

    I do this; I have a smoothie for breakfast every morning. It's usually 100g banana, 50g avocado, 30g spinach, 30g blueberries, 30g chocolate protein powder and water. Keeps me full till lunch and honestly there's no way I'd be getting so much good stuff into me in the morning if it wasn't blended.

    It helps that I freeze everything in portions so it ends up tasting like a cold chocolate milkshake :)


  • #209
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    It wouldn't be beneficial if you are getting in exactly the same stuff as if you were eating it but it certainly wouldn't be detrimental to your diet either. It would simply be a replacement for the same un-juiced meal. Incorporating juices into your diet is no problem at all, just don't go on these ridiculous week long programs of only drinking juice.

    ........ sorry about this but I have to correct you on a couple of things here having actually done the Juice Only Plans myself as opposed to just ....... well ..... guessing :(

    One of the benefits to juicing is getting way more fruit/vegetable nutrients than you would ever consume just by eating.

    Also ........ you will feel the benefits much more profoundly if you do a Juice Only Plan for minimum of 5-7 days.


  • #210
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    ........ sorry about this but I have to correct you on a couple of things here having actually done the Juice Only Plans myself as opposed to just ....... well ..... guessing :(

    One of the benefits to juicing is getting way more fruit/vegetable nutrients than you would ever consume just by eating.

    Also ........ you will feel the benefits much more profoundly if you do a Juice Only Plan for minimum of 5-7 days.

    Were you away juicing for a bit there!

    Did it ever cross your mind that you might be over consuming fruit / sugar and under consuming fat and protein?


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  • #211
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Were you away juicing for a bit there!

    Did it ever cross your mind that you might be over consuming fruit / sugar and under consuming fat and protein?

    Vegetables/Fruits contain fat and protein :rolleyes:

    Not too worried about naturally occurring sugar ........ it's the refined processed sugar that I avoid


  • #212
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    ........ sorry about this but I have to correct you on a couple of things here having actually done the Juice Only Plans myself as opposed to just ....... well ..... guessing :(

    One of the benefits to juicing is getting way more fruit/vegetable nutrients than you would ever consume just by eating.

    Also ........ you will feel the benefits much more profoundly if you do a Juice Only Plan for minimum of 5-7 days.

    Way more fruit and vegetable nutrients while missing out on countless other essential nutrients. It makes no sense whatsoever to recommend a juice only diet. Juices can form a great part of your diet but shouldn't be the only thing you are consuming.

    Also I don't appreciate the tone of condescension in your post. It's just plain rude and ignorant to act like such a know-it all, you probably aren't nearly as clever or witty as you think you are.


  • #213
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Way more fruit and vegetable nutrients while missing out on countless other essential nutrients. It makes no sense whatsoever to recommend a juice only diet. Juices can form a great part of your diet but shouldn't be the only thing you are consuming.

    Also I don't appreciate the tone of condescension in your post. It's just plain rude and ignorant to act like such a know-it all, you probably aren't nearly as clever or witty as you think you are.

    Which nutrients are missing exactly?

    I, by no means, "know-it-all" ....... I can however, quite cofidently, say that I probably know about Juicing than you do


  • #214
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Which nutrients are missing exactly?

    If you don't know what nutrients are missing when consuming a diet based soley on fruits and vegetables you probably shouldn't be giving nutritional advice. Also you won't be able to get a significant enough amount of fat or protein from fruit and vegetables in order to constitute a healthy diet.


  • #215
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Vegetables/Fruits contain fat and protein :rolleyes:

    Not too worried about naturally occurring sugar ........ it's the refined processed sugar that I avoid

    Minuscule amounts- if you believe you are getting all the fat and protein you need from juice you really have been brainwashed.

    You should be. Eating / juicing loads of fruit is not as beneficial as some believe it to be.


  • #216
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    If you don't know what nutrients are missing when consuming a diet based soley on fruits and vegetables you probably shouldn't be giving nutritional advice. Also you won't be able to get a significant enough amount of fat or protein from fruit and vegetables in order to constitute a healthy diet.

    I never said there were any essential nutrients missing from a Juice Only Plan ........ you said that.

    Why wouldn't you be able to get enough fat or protein from Juicing fruit and vegetables?


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  • #217
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Which nutrients are missing exactly?
    /quote]

    If you've to ask that question it's time you stopped posting your total bull**** or at least only asked for advice from some posters who actually know what they are talking about.


  • #218
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Minuscule amounts- if you believe you are getting all the fat and protein you need from juice you really have been brainwashed.

    You should be. Eating / juicing loads of fruit is not as beneficial as some believe it to be.

    Minuscule amounts? Really?? Have you ever actually looked at the list of ingredients that goes into a Juice Only Plan and what those ingredients/amounts actually contain nutritionally?? No? Well I have .........

    Here's a little fact for you ......... a human can live on and survive healthily on avocados alone, it contains all the essential nutrition that humans need to live.


  • #219
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Which nutrients are missing exactly?
    /quote]

    If you've to ask that question it's time you stopped posting your total bull**** or at least only asked for advice from some posters who actually know what they are talking about.

    Well that's why I asked you ........... I thought you knew what you were talking about?? :confused:


  • #220
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Here's a little fact for you ......... a human can live on and survive healthily on avocados alone, it contains all the essential nutrition that humans need to live.

    This is a new kind of stupid...


  • #221
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Bruno26 wrote: »

    Well that's why I asked you ........... I thought you knew what you were talking about?? :confused:

    You are the one making the ridiculous claims, the burden of proof is firmly in your court.


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  • #222
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Minuscule amounts? Really?? Have you ever actually looked at the list of ingredients that goes into a Juice Only Plan and what those ingredients/amounts actually contain nutritionally?? No? Well I have .........

    Here's a little fact for you ......... a human can live on and survive healthily on avocados alone, it contains all the essential nutrition that humans need to live.

    Yes fruit and veg! Unless your blending and juicing meat you are not eating enough fat and protein!

    I'm starting a 3 day then building up to a 7 day and then a 30 day avocado plan !


  • #223
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    This is a new kind of stupid...

    Really?
    Avocados have even made it into the Guinness book of world records as the most nutritious fruits in the world.
    They contain everything the human body requires nutritionally and you could live exclusively on them.
    They contain vitamins, minerals, protein, carbohydrates, water and EFA’s – essential fatty acids.
    These EFA’s are imperative to your diet and they actually help to maintain a healthy weight as these good fats help to regulate your appetite.


  • #224
    Lia_lia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    This thread is highly entertaining...


  • #225
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Yes fruit and veg! Unless your blending and juicing meat you are not eating enough fat and protein!

    I'm starting a 3 day then building up to a 7 day and then a 30 day avocado plan !

    Do it ........


  • #226
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Really?
    Avocados have even made it into the Guinness book of world records as the most nutritious fruits in the world.
    They contain everything the human body requires nutritionally and you could live exclusively on them.
    They contain vitamins, minerals, protein, carbohydrates, water and EFA’s – essential fatty acids.
    These EFA’s are imperative to your diet and they actually help to maintain a healthy weight as these good fats help to regulate your appetite.

    Avocados contain very little iron and you would have to eat 16+ a day to get your iron needs. They contain very little calcium and you would have to consume 20+ a day to satisfy your calcium needs. You would have to eat at least 20 to get your protein needs as an extremely inactive person and closer to 40 if you are active in any way at all. If you were to eat 20 avocados a day you would be consuming about 6000 calories a day. So em, yeah, you are wrong.


  • #227
    CrookedJack
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭CrookedJack


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Really?
    Avocados have even made it into the Guinness book of world records as the most nutritious fruits in the world.
    They contain everything the human body requires nutritionally and you could live exclusively on them.
    They contain vitamins, minerals, protein, carbohydrates, water and EFA’s – essential fatty acids.
    These EFA’s are imperative to your diet and they actually help to maintain a healthy weight as these good fats help to regulate your appetite.

    Where would you get your vitamin B12?


  • #228
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    good fats help to regulate your appetite.

    This is the first sensible thing you've posted !


  • #229
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    Avocados contain very little iron and you would have to eat 16+ a day to get your iron needs. They contain very little calcium and you would have to consume 20+ a day to satisfy your calcium needs. You would have to eat at least 20 to get your protein needs as an extremely inactive person and closer to 40 if you are active in any way at all. If you were to eat 20 avocados a day you would be consuming about 6000 calories a day. So em, yeah, you are wrong.

    I suppose the Guinness Book Of World Records is wrong, sure what would they know ......... anyway that's where juicing comes in ........

    Iron? Spinach!
    Calcium? Broccoli!
    Calories? This is exactly why you should never be on a calorie controlled diet as natural fats found in avocado are all good fats that the body requires, unlike the fats found in a mars bar that the body never needs!


  • #230
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    CrookedJack wrote: »
    Where would you get your vitamin B12?

    In between your Juice Only Plans ........


  • #231
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    This is the first sensible thing you've posted !

    Gosh Golly Gee ......... thanks!! *blushing* :o


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  • #232
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Gosh Golly Gee ......... thanks!! *blushing* :o

    Just incase you think it was- It wasn't a compliment. Merely pointing out the idiocy of 99% of your posts.


  • #233
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Ias natural fats found in avocado are all good fats that the body requires, unlike the fats found in a mars bar that the body never needs!

    No **** genius!


  • #234
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Just incase you think it was- It wasn't a compliment. Merely pointing out the idiocy of 99% of your posts.

    Thanks for pointing out the obvious ........ just in case I missed it :rolleyes:

    Not a big fan of sarcasm either are you ........ that's not a real question by the way ........ just in case you think it was, it wasn't ......... just in case ....... you know ........ if you thought it was ......... well it just wasn't


  • #235
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    No **** genius!

    Thanks!! :)

    I do know you were being sarcastic by the way before you go pointing that out to me :rolleyes:


  • #236
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I suppose the Guinness Book Of World Records is wrong, sure what would they know ......... s!

    No I'm sure they are right. What's wrong is saying living on avocado or ****ing 30 day juice plans is a good idea!


  • #237
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    No I'm sure they are right. What's wrong is saying living on avocado or ****ing 30 day juice plans is a good idea!

    So don't f**king do one then ......... what's the issue??

    I didn't say it was a good idea ........... I said it was a great idea!!


  • #238
    ch750536
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    CrookedJack wrote: »
    Where would you get your vitamin B12?

    Lick the floor, job done.


  • #239
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    So don't f**king do one then ......... what's the issue??
    !!

    I wouldn't. It's delusional. Juice plans are a very recent phenomenon. Did not exist until very recently. Marketing is clever.


  • #240
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    I wouldn't. It's delusional. Juice plans are a very recent phenomenon. Did not exist until very recently. Marketing is clever.

    Since the early 50's so yes, historically speaking, it is quite recent ........ then again so are Iphones!!


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  • #241
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Since the early 50's so yes, historically speaking, it is quite recent ........ then again so are Iphones!!

    We are talking about nutrition not electronics. Each and every post adds to your idiocy.


  • #242
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    We are talking about nutrition not electronics. Each and every post adds to your idiocy.

    What would you know about nutrition with your High-Fat Diet!! :D


  • #243
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    What would you know about nutrition with your High-Fat Diet!! :D

    How do you find the time to search my history with all the juicing!

    Are you being serious / trying to be sarcastic / trying to be funny? It's difficult to know as your posts including smiley faces are very immature?


  • #244
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    How do you find the time to search my history with all the juicing!

    Are you being serious / trying to be sarcastic / trying to be funny? It's difficult to know as your posts including smiley faces are very immature?

    Probably because of all the Juice Energy I have!!! :):):):):)


  • #245
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Probably because of all the Juice Energy I have!!! :):):):):)

    The brain needs fat. I reckon you should go eat some!


  • #246
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    The brain needs fat. I reckon you should go eat some!

    I assume you have a big fat head so? ;)


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  • #247
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I assume you have a big fat head so? ;)

    Are you really an adult.

    You wouldn't know this as you don't know what nutrients you are missing out on in your panacea juice plans.

    We all do to a certain extent. The brain is approximately 60% fat.


  • #248
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I assume you have a big fat head so? ;)

    Easy now, let's not get petty

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #249
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Brian? wrote: »
    Easy now, let's not get petty

    My apologies, I don't know why I let myself get dragged down to his level ............. his constant rants (although slightly amusing at first) have become tiresome to me anyway (and I'm sure others on here too!) so I'll ignore the Troll and concentrate on giving advise, recommendations and insight from my experience of Juicing to those who are interested.


  • #250
    Bruno26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    My apologies, I don't know why I let myself get dragged down to his level ............. his constant rants (although slightly amusing at first) have become tiresome to me anyway (and I'm sure others on here too!) so I'll ignore the Troll and concentrate on giving advise, recommendations and insight from my experience of Juicing to those who are interested.

    Don't give advice. You've established you haven't a clue about nutrients. Nobody agrees with your idiotic beliefs.


  • #251
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    mad m wrote: »
    ok a bit OT, but I think parents have a huge influence on what kids eat. As a family we ate healthy enough, but my wife wanted to loose a few pounds so our dinners,lunches changed.

    Then a year back we got a juicer. We were going to buy a masticating juicer but found it would take to long in mornings. My wife and I started then after a couple of days the kids wanted one as well and it has since carried on. I couldnt believe it one monring when we didnt have enough stuff to do a juice, that the kids were like " Hey where is my juice"

    Kids look healthy and for once no one has had a cold or nose/chest infections in ages. Long may it continue.

    Yeah, it can be a bit more expensive to eat healthy, but it can cost a good bit on doctors and antibiotics..

    I have found that giving Juice to my kids has taken a lot of pressure off myself and my wife regarding their general health & well-being ............ what I mean is I don't panic now if they don't eat their broccoli at dinner time because I know their "dessert" (as they call it!!) is full of all the nutrients they need for that day ........... it looks to them like a big red milkshake but it is in fact 5/6 freshly Juiced vegetables blended with an avocado (for the creamy effect), a banana (for the thickening effect) and a few strawberries (for the yummy looking effect!) ........... they love it.
    Same thing when I look in their schoolbags after school and I see they haven't eaten their apples .......... no worries because right next to their uneaten apple is an empty flask which contained a nutrient rich fruit/vegetable Juice!! :)

    Did you go with the Masticating Juicer? How do you find it??


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