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Those Conspiracy Guys Podcasts

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  • #102
    Loughc
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    redbuck wrote: »
    I dont really understand why he feels the need to make the documentaries even

    Vanity project. I honestly believe he thinks he can sell them to Netflix for a million Euro :pac:

    Google any self made conspiracy documentaries and all you find are YouTube videos that only crackpots watch. They never make it big time.


  • #103
    generalgerry
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    Very little output these days. Last episode was September 1st and the episodes are very sporadic at this stage. I wonder is he losing interest.


  • #104
    redbuck
    Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    generalgerry wrote: »
    Very little output these days. Last episode was September 1st and the episodes are very sporadic at this stage. I wonder is he losing interest.

    I stopped listening after someone suggested listening to Casefile here. He was very desperate for the trip to America to happen and it left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I didn’t enjoy any of the new shows I’d listened to either.


  • #105
    redbuck
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    I wonder where Gordo stands on Covid 19 btw?


  • #106
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    He made an announcement at the start of November saying that he is going to be putting out more output and on a more regular basis. He seemed to have a bee in his bonnet about people asking him to get a co host or to get a co presenter, and went on a bit of a rant about "There are people who were on the first shows who WILL NOT BE COMING BACK". I can only think that this was a reference to Paul, the former co-host. He was great, and very funny. The show certainly is much lesser without his input. I wonder what he is doing now, cos I would probably listen to him if he had another podcast.

    Have a listen back and see what ye think.

    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/those-conspiracy-guys-gordon-rochford-thoAeCSv3UN/

    It's the one called Season 8 Announcement.


  • #107
    Loughc
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    He made an announcement at the start of November saying that he is going to be putting out more output and on a more regular basis. He seemed to have a bee in his bonnet about people asking him to get a co host or to get a co presenter, and went on a bit of a rant about "There are people who were on the first shows who WILL NOT BE COMING BACK". I can only think that this was a reference to Paul, the former co-host. He was great, and very funny. The show certainly is much lesser without his input. I wonder what he is doing now, cos I would probably listen to him if he had another podcast.

    Have a listen back and see what ye think.

    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/those-conspiracy-guys-gordon-rochford-thoAeCSv3UN/

    It's the one called Season 8 Announcement.

    Yeah I listened to that Season 8 announcement I read the description that he was going to address the concerns and issues about the Pod and I initially thought you know what fair play, it takes a big man to admin there's issues and to address them.

    Then I listened to it.. and essentially his address was to tell people to jog on and f off if they didn't like things. That's the way things are going to be.

    He was also clearly hinting about Paul never coming back. Told people to stop asking. I thought Paul was the brains behind the operation, he did lots of research and was VERY witty. Gordo relies on dick jokes every 2 mins to get him through.

    It's a shame as the podcast can be very good at times. Gordo just need to relax and not let negative feedback affect him so much. I still tune in every now and then and pick and choose episodes to listen to.

    Gordo defo has a fragile ego, which he has no need to have, he's done very well for himself no the back of the pod.


  • #108
    generalgerry
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    Loughc wrote: »
    I thought Paul was the brains behind the operation, he did lots of research and was VERY witty. Gordo relies on dick jokes every 2 mins to get him through.

    I think you're being very unfair to Gordo there. He relies on dick jokes and impressions :P

    I get the same vibe on the criticism. The patronising line that "if you don't like it, maybe it's not for you" (i.e. the problem is with you, and not with the podcast). It's a very useful disclaimer for him when he doesn't want to discuss issues that might lose him his revenue stream. Specifically the Anti Vax episode. He made an announcement before the episode to say "this is what it's about, if you don't like it then maybe it's not for you", and proceeded to have a supposed Anti Vax episode with two vaccine advocates. Similar with 9/11, seems he doesn't want to follow up on that, too hot to handle.

    The idea of doing a "deeper dive" on particular topics is a good idea - very clever given that he had pretty much done an episode on (/exhausted) all the most popular conspiracy events. However, I listened to the one about the Oaklahoma Bombings though, and it was all over the place. There's a lot good about the podcast, and there's a lot good about Gordo, but I think Gordo could do with a good producer.


  • #109
    Loughc
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    I think you're being very unfair to Gordo there. He relies on dick jokes and impressions

    There's a lot good about the podcast, and there's a lot good about Gordo, but I think Gordo could do with a good producer.

    So true. Completely agree with the above.


  • #110
    tipp_tipp_tipp
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    Haven't listened to this in ages. It's very hit and miss. When it's good I really enjoy it. But it can be unlistenable at times. I remember the area 51 one was like listening to a bunch of people having the craic in a pub, everyone laughing and talking over each other. Any of the ones with Edwin Sammon are very enjoyable. Shame it hasn't reached it's full potential.


  • #111
    redbuck
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    tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »
    Haven't listened to this in ages. It's very hit and miss. When it's good I really enjoy it. But it can be unlistenable at times. I remember the area 51 one was like listening to a bunch of people having the craic in a pub, everyone laughing and talking over each other. Any of the ones with Edwin Sammon are very enjoyable. Shame it hasn't reached it's full potential.

    The Ted Bundy episode he done was the biggest load of tripe I’ve ever heard.

    I agree with the poster above who suggested revisiting certain topics. Now we’re getting true crime podcasts with people on who are plugging something.


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  • #112
    generalgerry
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    6 hours 51 minutes on Malcolm X

    Anyone? :confused:


  • #113
    Loughc
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    6 hours 51 minutes on Malcolm X

    Anyone? :confused:

    No thanks. It’s not a topic that interests me in the slightest.


  • #114
    redbuck
    Registered Users Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    generalgerry wrote: »
    6 hours 51 minutes on Malcolm X

    Anyone? :confused:

    How many hours of that is Gordo doing voices and being vulgar?

    My guess is probably 4 hours.


  • #115
    Loughc
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    redbuck wrote: »
    How many hours of that is Gordo doing voices and being vulgar?

    My guess is probably 4 hours.

    I would have guessed 5.5 hours.


  • #116
    jam_mac_jam
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    6 hours 51 minutes on Malcolm X

    Anyone? :confused:

    About half an hour on Malcom x and a lot of ranting and bull****. I had to fast forward a good bit as the accents and impressions were cringeworthy.

    I wouldn't mind if it was funny but it's not. It was just stupid. Last Podcast on the Left can inject humour and it works. This one I was just cringing for him.

    Really overlong, the research involved was reading wikipedia and watching the Spike Lee film. Really basic stuff on racism in the US and how it was bad.

    I would say I fast forward about half.


  • #117
    Bellbottoms
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    He made an announcement at the start of November saying that he is going to be putting out more output and on a more regular basis. He seemed to have a bee in his bonnet about people asking him to get a co host or to get a co presenter, and went on a bit of a rant about "There are people who were on the first shows who WILL NOT BE COMING BACK". I can only think that this was a reference to Paul, the former co-host. He was great, and very funny. The show certainly is much lesser without his input. I wonder what he is doing now, cos I would probably listen to him if he had another podcast.

    Have a listen back and see what ye think.

    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/those-conspiracy-guys-gordon-rochford-thoAeCSv3UN/

    It's the one called Season 8 Announcement.

    I just had a listen to this. The guy is an egoistical man-child. Who equates hours of research to watching videos on Youtube. He comes across as so petty and petulant.

    A lot of complaining about one star reviews on Itunes. People giving him one star reviews because he cant pronounce a word or he made fun of kids in Syria. Not the case. Its complaints about, guests, poor research, "15 minutes of begging" at the start of the show and an erratic release schedule.

    It looks like they have also dissolved the "Those Conspiracy Guys Limited". That happened in Oct 2019. Which might explain why they (well Gordon) hasn't released a whole lot since then.

    Time for Gordon to find a new gig. Did they offer to refund anyone who donated towards Gordons holi.... eh research trip to the US?

    Edit: I dont want to make fun of someone's weight or how they look. But I did notice Gordan say he will not be getting the vaccine for COVID. When you read this Gordon. I ask that you reconsider. You weigh 330 lbs, which puts you in the high risk category.


  • #118
    generalgerry
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    Bellbottoms wrote: »
    But I did notice Gordan say he will not be getting the vaccine for COVID.

    I must have missed that bit. Their whole Anti Vaccination discussion was so Pro Vaccination, I would be surprised if he took that stance.

    He has a podcast up with that Tom O'Mahony guy from December 23rd, which he felt obliged to apologise for in advance. "This is a swapcast and I know that a lot of you don't like swapcasts, so don't give out to me if it's not what you expected". He is starting a lot of podcasts with that disclaimer these days.

    Regular podcast about Port Arthur due out today he said.


  • #119
    Bellbottoms
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    I must have missed that bit. Their whole Anti Vaccination discussion was so Pro Vaccination, I would be surprised if he took that stance.

    He definitely said he won't be getting it.

    TBH I was more shocked by if you don't like a particular episode "jog on".

    There are much better shows out there. I have no idea why anyone would bother with Gordo.


  • #120
    Aisling(",)
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    I like Those Conspiracy guys. I don't always agree with the theories put forward but a difference in opinion can make for better listening.

    I wish the episodes were released in closer groups though. It drags out way too long and I'm bored of the interviews. I like the true crime usually but certain ones I can't stand but they're not regulars. I'll listen to the Malcolm X episode but that's mainly because I haven't a notion about him.


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  • #121
    generalgerry
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    Aisling(",) wrote: »
    I like the true crime usually but certain ones I can't stand but they're not regulars. I'll listen to the Malcolm X episode but that's mainly because I haven't a notion about him.

    You should just watch the movie Ais, that's what they did for their research! :D

    The length of the shows is one thing that always confused me. He is really going against the grain with this one, as most podcasts are about an hour long, and if longer they split it in to a number of parts. He says that most people like to listen along while in work. I can certainly understand that if you don't want mainstream voices poisoning your mind 8 hours a day, and would just rather listen to something a little more light hearted. But I generally find myself listening to the first two hours and then just tuning out.


  • #122
    generalgerry
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    Listened to the one on Port Arthur. The contributor, Damien, was very entertaining. He would make a very good co-contributor if anybody was in any way open to having a co-host ;-)

    Wasn't a bad show. And he pointed out enough of the contradictions in the official story to be a considered a legitimate "conspiracy" podcast. However, the tangents were looooooooong, and the accents were incessant. He really needs to stop the childish "accents for gratification" game that seems to permeate all of the podcasts. It seems like the only actual enjoyment he gets from the show, the only thing that keeps him awake for the 4-6 hour shows, is the opportunity to mimic the accents. He IS a good impressionist, but it does get very annoying very quickly, and irritating over the period of a few hours.

    But it was one of the better ones of the recent shows.


  • #123
    redbuck
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    Listened to the one on Port Arthur. The contributor, Damien, was very entertaining. He would make a very good co-contributor if anybody was in any way open to having a co-host ;-)

    Wasn't a bad show. And he pointed out enough of the contradictions in the official story to be a considered a legitimate "conspiracy" podcast. However, the tangents were looooooooong, and the accents were incessant. He really needs to stop the childish "accents for gratification" game that seems to permeate all of the podcasts. It seems like the only actual enjoyment he gets from the show, the only thing that keeps him awake for the 4-6 hour shows, is the opportunity to mimic the accents. He IS a good impressionist, but it does get very annoying very quickly, and irritating over the period of a few hours.

    But it was one of the better ones of the recent shows.

    How long was it?

    I listened to Casefile cover it and I don’t think Gordo can better that and the thoughts of listening to him do Alf Stewart impressions for 5 hours makes me come out in hives.


  • #124
    generalgerry
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    Interesting discussion about Oaklahoma in a Deep Dive session. The whole thing about a truck bomb so far away from the building causing that sort of damage was ridiculous, and yer man Tom (who is an interesting enough contributor) pointed this out. Didn't know about the Clinton files being stored in the building that is certainly interesting.


  • #125
    generalgerry
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    Latest one is on Bob Marley. The accents are out in force for this one. I turned off pretty quickly. To be honest it was more to do with the fact that I don't really fancy listening to 5 hours about Bob Marley. I struggle now to find out why I actually listened to the show in the first place. And that is in no way a criticism of Gordo or the show. It was always going to be really hard to find topics to keep the show interesting as there are a finite number of conspiracy topics. I thought the plan was to do a deep dive in to the more popular conspiracy theories but he seems to have deviated from that plan completely and gone for the less known conspiracy theories.

    He could do worse than keep Edwin Sammon on as a co-host.


  • #126
    redbuck
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    Latest one is on Bob Marley. The accents are out in force for this one. I turned off pretty quickly. To be honest it was more to do with the fact that I don't really fancy listening to 5 hours about Bob Marley. I struggle now to find out why I actually listened to the show in the first place. And that is in no way a criticism of Gordo or the show. It was always going to be really hard to find topics to keep the show interesting as there are a finite number of conspiracy topics. I thought the plan was to do a deep dive in to the more popular conspiracy theories but he seems to have deviated from that plan completely and gone for the less known conspiracy theories.

    He could do worse than keep Edwin Sammon on as a co-host.

    The accents have gone from bad humour to irritating to just offensive now.

    Did he ever do a Q-Anon episode?


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  • #127
    redbuck
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    The prevailing themes in the show since he became a solo act that stick out to me are: begging for money to go to America, accents getting worse and worse, guests promoting stuff having limited knowledge of the topics they're on to discuss, Gordo was a mad bastard who was tried every drug known to man and every episode we got the story about the time kidnappers tried to abduct the young Gordo but were scuppered by his uncle and granny.

    Add a new topic and repeat the above


  • #128
    generalgerry
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    redbuck wrote: »
    The accents have gone from bad humour to irritating to just offensive now. Did he ever do a Q-Anon episode?

    Not by the look of it. List of the episodes here.

    https://play.acast.com/s/thoseconspiracyguys

    Now I know I definitely heard him speaking about QAnon before, I think he spoke about it live on some conference show.

    He seems to be completely running scared from 9/11 though. They did one episode right at the start with really bad audio and a really annoying yank, but has not touched it since. When he said that he was going to "deep dive in to well known conspiracies", I read "Pentagon, Twin Towers, Put Options, Building 7 etc" but we get Bob Marley and Peter Stumpp?


  • #129
    redbuck
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    Not by the look of it. List of the episodes here.

    https://play.acast.com/s/thoseconspiracyguys

    Now I know I definitely heard him speaking about QAnon before, I think he spoke about it live on some conference show.

    He seems to be completely running scared from 9/11 though. They did one episode right at the start with really bad audio and a really annoying yank, but has not touched it since. When he said that he was going to "deep dive in to well known conspiracies", I read "Pentagon, Twin Towers, Put Options, Building 7 etc" but we get Bob Marley and Peter Stumpp?

    Haha I'm expecting a Lizard people episode soon.

    Yeah I noticed the 9/11 thing too, he must have got some negative backlash for the first episode which didn't go very in depth on it what so ever.


  • #130
    generalgerry
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    redbuck wrote: »
    Haha I'm expecting a Lizard people episode soon. Yeah I noticed the 9/11 thing too, he must have got some negative backlash for the first episode which didn't go very in depth on it what so ever.

    See, I think it's a fine line he has to walk between producing content that will attract the conspiracy audience, and airing opinions that will get the show cancelled.


  • #131
    Bellbottoms
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    I havent heard anything about this podcast in a long time. Is it dead? Is Gordon okay? He is a pretty heavy guy. I can see him having health issues, I cant remember if he was pushing the covid conspiracy thing. Catching it would be a pretty **** way of finding out its real. Lots of co morbidities on the go.



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  • #132
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117690512#Comment_117690512

    They just released a zodiac episode. The episode was really good. Claire is good at reigning Gordo in and keeping things moving, similar to his episodes with Paul.

    The episode is 4.5 hours long so it’s not too much of a slog to get through.



  • #133
    Bellbottoms
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    Thats good to hear.

    I don't know if you are joking about 4.5 hours not being a slop.


    Anyway glad to hear he is well and the show is improving.



  • #134
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117693105#Comment_117693105

    The 4.5 hours is much easier to listen to than some of their 7 hours deep dives.



  • #135
    Bellbottoms
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    Jesus seven hours. I forgot about those.



  • #136
    Bellbottoms
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    Is this podcast still a thing?



  • #137
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120919662#Comment_120919662

    It is but it’s Very hit and miss with the release schedule.

    Shame Paul didn’t splinter off and do his own thing after they split. Gordon doesn’t seem to have the passion for it anymore when it’s good it’s really good but when it’s bad it’s long episodes that go no where.



  • #138
    Bellbottoms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922894#Comment_120922894

    Did he ever go off on his sponsered holiday to the US with his GF?



  • #139
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927396#Comment_120927396

    No he didn’t. He didn’t blag enough of the public. Here’s the thing I have no problem paying for a patreon to cover the cost of a podcast and website as that stuff isn’t cheap but I draw the line when someone wants you to cover his GF’s salary for a year and pay for hotels for the.

    To be fair I enjoy the podcast and I think Gordon is a bit of craic and he does put some load of effort into it the podcast when it’s on.



  • #140
    Bellbottoms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927423#Comment_120927423

    I agree, you pay for the content to be made and for the creators to turn a profit. But asking for your backers to pay your GF salary for the year so she can come. Is a bit much. Did they refund the backers.


    I do feel sorry for Gordo, listening to a few interviews he saw the podcast as his big break. It sounds like things have sort of peeted out Podcast wise. Back to being a sh1te standup I suppose.



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