Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

If we beat Clare which we should we will have Monoghan at home, Louth at a neutral venue and Meath away. We will have no decent match before a QF probably

good performance for sure… and Kerry have plenty of footballing talent coming through.. but you just wonder how good were Cork…. there skill level was nowhere near the standard of the Kerry players and fitness wise they looked a tad off the pace…. it was game over 5mins into 2nd half… I would expect that the semifinal against Meath who looked very impressive dispatching Louth will be a stiffer test… still Tomas has 2 munsters in a row at this level…

Fair play to Clare today giving us a solid test. They looked very well set up for us. Individually most of our guys did well but we don’t see to be operating as a unit well at all. The inability to score goals is the biggest evidence of this.

Jason Foley was excellent on his return. Tony Brosnan showed his scoring ability that everyone knows he has. Shane Murphy even did well in goals. Brian O Beaglaoich solid on his return too. Paul Murphy is playing his best football in a long time.

On the negative side, it looks like Stephen O Briens speed is gone. I don’t recall him taking on the Clare back line once. Even in his tracking back he didn’t look like in great shape. Lastly to repeat what I’ve said before, Joe O Connor is not the answer at midfield, himself and Diarmuid have no chemistry as a midfield partnership. Jack needs to try something new in the group stages like other counties have done. Dublin tried James McCarthy, Galway had Sean Kelly today etc. If Jack doesn’t think Barry Dan is the answer then maybe Mike Breen could do a job there or try Sean O Shea there again(His Mobility has improved massively this year so will get around the field a lot easier).

most of the clare praise needs to be directed to the o'rahillys man on the clare sideline ,

he got his matchups bang on but the difference in class won out , it was probably a bit of an fa cup tie with the novelty of home advantage too , but at least we threw everything at kerry and fought to the end which is something i have been very critical of better clare teams in the past for not doing

it would be a worry how much joy we got when we ran at the kerry backs, i get the paul murphy argument now too , he was picking up aaron griffin and was 2nd to every ball kicked in to him, i taught foley was excellent on his return i didn't think we would see him back so soon , i think some of the scores tony brosnan and david clifford kicked were exceptional because in cliffords case in particular the lads marking them did well in general

in truth i was worried we wouldn't surpass 10 points given the amount of players we lost after last year especially scoring forwards but the attitude was excellent in fairness hopefully we can back it up and beat cork in two weeks time , for kerry going forward the lack of impact the subs made has to change also the midfield took a bit of a hit too at times but it must be good to have foley and Beaglaoich back fit and ready for bigger challenges ahead , i have no doubt gavin white will be raring to go when it matters in a few weeks time too

Sad to hear the passing of Seán Óg Sheehy 1962 All-Ireland winning captain.

there is real potential in kerry hurling but , the clubs need to either set up a competition with west limerick or duhallow clubs or join another county's leagues to get the best out of them , the standard is quiet good at club level but rushing it off over the next few weeks dose nothing either

In recent years Crokes and in the late 2000s Kilgarvin both played in the Duhallow leagues. Daugh even played in West Limerick at one point.

The CB as with many things hurling related just want it out of the ASAP and don't give it a second thought.

Well hurling isn't actually new in Rathmore. They got to a county final in the 30's and would have had a Junior team until at least the 80's.

Firies also fielding teams at underage. They've almost now overtaken Crokes in terms of underage in East Kerry in recent times.

Crokes are non existent at juvenile level and for that reason alone shouldn’t be playing senior county championship. Where do they think they will find the new talent needed year on year to keep playing senior.
Tralee Parnells are flying at all levels, the complete detachment from Austin Stacks had to happen for Tralee hurling to grow. The same thing needs to happen in Killarney so that they can pull players from all over Killarney.

Very surprising lack of talk here after the game. Maybe we're all still recovering from that dull, dull, dull game. Let's all hope that some new rules are brought into the game as fast as possible.

Kerry, in the end, did enough against this Derry team that were pretty poor. My optimism levels haven't been raised too much though. There were just too many players that were sub-par.

Anyone have anything to say that might make me feel better about yesterday's game?

One of the new rules might be that teams are forced to keep a certain number of player up the field. That would also stop all the boring shite. Something needs to be done though. Yesterday diminished the sport in my eyes and if we had lost I would probably have not watched another second of the all-ireland this year. Too many things annoyed me - tactics, the ref, the lack of bravery, the sheer monotony.

It is difficult, but was there even one incidence, for example, of someone like Gavin White, running at pace, came on the shoulder of the man in possession to take the ball past the Derry player in front? I never thought I'd say this, but I missed Stephen O'Brien yesterday. He drove me mad with his running into cul-de-sacs, but the starting line-up missed a lot of that one on one bravery. If this Derry team had the same energy that they had last year, I don't think that we'd have won it.

That nearly cost us the game against Derry lase year and did cost us against Tyrone in 2021. Its better to win a bad one than lose a good one

Saturday evening at half 5 after the Tailteann Cup final, we will play Armagh

We did what we had to do, it wasn't pretty to watch but it's knockout so no point playing a wide open game & being bate, we've done that often enough & lost.

Derry never looked like goin for it, I think they are broken under Harte & the sooner he goes the better for them, they had a great league but in reality 3 losses & got to a quarter final...they did well enough

Cillian Burke might be our secret weapon.

Paudie Clifford said after the game that he'd "massive pace".

Perfect to bring on when the game opens up and legs are tiring.

Couldn't disagree more on Moynihan.

He's absolutely essential to the way we play and covers every blade or grass every game.

He tracks the runners from deep that David passes off. He keeps the width in attack to open the holes in blanket defences. He's also managed to add scores to his game this year.

We create a lot of scoring chances that go through his hands.

He's never going to be a dynamic scoring wing forward. He does the most unselfish, thankless role in the team but instead of being lauded he gets abuse.

I just think a player of his talent should hopefully end up with a few medals. Also he has a strong panel around him.

If we win this year, then he has 7 or 8 more seasons to win 2 or 3 more medals.

It's definitely feasible.

But really 19, 21 and 23 were all winnable AIs. We won't mention 20. So he should have 4 AIs and going for his 5th.

I'm hoping he doesn't get any serious injuries and plays until 33 or 34.

We've two winnable games coming up and hopefully he brings us over the line.

Dublin won't be as formidable in the short term. 9 of their starting team the last day were over 30. Your pace can go overnight when you hit 30/31.

If you watch Galway's last point, you can see James McCarthy's legs are gone.

So the next 2 or 3 years we should be on paper the favourites.

I think Donegal are the dark horse this year.

Correct, but all the hard work doesn't make him an inter county grade footballer

For all his endeavour he's just not up to the grade imo

HE has been around long enough by now I don't see him adding to his game

He was one of our better players the last day.

Some players just seem to garner more criticism than others. For example Gavin White didn't do much the last day but he's never criticised.

White has been criticised plenty in the past for running into traffic & getting turned over