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Captain Marvel (2019)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Really?

    Avengers: Infinity War
    Guardians of the Galaxy 2?
    Spider-Man Home-Coming?
    Ant-Man and the Wasp?
    Doctor Strange?
    Thor Ragnarok?

    Bland and Dreary?

    Completely disagree.

    If you kept reading, you'd have seen I mentioned GoTG in another post as an exception :) and I think I've explained my thinking enough; yes, a lot of the Earth based films, especially those by the Russos, have a bland colour palettes, and some bizarrely dreary locations. And yes, I absolutely include the Asgard parts of Thor: Ragnarok, Ant-Man and Spider-Man Homecoming. Good entertainment, but dull compositions, with Spidey's suit looking criminally washed out.

    Go watch the Sam Raimi Spidey films - or SpiderVerse - then watch Homecoming and tell me the MCU film looks even half as arresting. Not the story, the visuals.

    Anyway, I've banged the drum enough and should be plainly obvious by now I'm not having a pop at the stories or characters. Imagine someone on a film forum wanting nice looking images! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    It's a bit akin to what first person shooters tend to do. Everything looking incredibly drab to add to drama but really being incredibly dull and grey appearance wise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    pixelburp wrote: »
    If you kept reading, you'd have seen I mentioned GoTG in another post as an exception :) and I think I've explained my thinking enough; yes, a lot of the Earth based films, especially those by the Russos, have a bland colour palettes, and some bizarrely dreary locations. And yes, I absolutely include the Asgard parts of Thor: Ragnarok, Ant-Man and Spider-Man Homecoming. Good entertainment, but dull compositions, with Spidey's suit looking criminally washed out.

    Go watch the Sam Raimi Spidey films - or SpiderVerse - then watch Homecoming and tell me the MCU film looks even half as arresting. Not the story, the visuals.

    Anyway, I've banged the drum enough and should be plainly obvious by now I'm not having a pop at the stories or characters. Imagine someone on a film forum wanting nice looking images! :D

    I really don't agree with your point.

    I think there was certainly a deliberate effort to do that for CA to ground it a bit as a more orthodox spy film (until the helicarriers, I suppose), but there's plenty of diverse colour choices and effects in pretty much all the other films.

    Infinity War has all the various powers + different effects from the gauntlet and some pretty wild settings, Ant Man(s), Thor(s), GOTG, Dr Strange, Black Panther, are all visually arresting, and I think it would be mental to suggest otherwise about any of them, Spiderman had a mixture of scenes, but they usually included wild bright-coloured effects, and you had big airy bright scenes like the boat, or Washington Monument vs more subdued ones or darker ones, and even then, they served to bring out the contrasts like the pink lasers, or Vulture's bright green glowing eyes, or the reflective effects of the fire in the finale amidst the bits of the crashed plane.

    Maybe Spiderman has some merit in the argument, but I don't think having one film to hang your argument's hat on does it much favours, especially when it's the debut film with a "street level" superhero and I think grounding him was a good way to start. Mysterio and set pieces that take place in Venice looks like they're not wasting any time in diversifying the visual appeal.

    I think the only real one I'd give you is Age of Ultron, which while perhaps not the worst film in the franhise, was IMO, the biggest let down in most departments. The Hulk/Hulkbuster fight was probably the only thing of interest, but even then, it was extremely brown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Just an observation but I'm confident when I say that this conversation has been had in every single thread for the last five or so Marvel films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Well, at any rate PB, this guy agrees with you.





    (Specific references to visual style appear in the 2nd video at about 15:40)

    I enjoy his videos. He's an Irish American (in the sense that his parents, who sometimes appear in his videos, are from Galway or something) film youtuber and I've enjoyed a few of his videos.

    I have to say, having watched those vidoes, I did find myself physically recoiling from how claustrophobic I felt during some of the clips he showed from the films. I suppose I hadn't really considered things like colour palette to the same degree for just "walking around" shots, because I had no expectations of beauty for those shots, but maybe that was just down to lowering expectations for super hero guff, and that's not really something film watchers should take as a given.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's freaky cos lately YouTube has been pushing his videos on me, had been meaning to take a stab. He any good?

    Though swinging back to the original thread, and still after the fact this is the first MCU film since Dr Strange where I simply didn't care for the titular character. For all the talk of flat cinematography, I enjoy the MCU for the characters and interplay. Danvers left me a bit ... shoulder shruggy.

    A bit concerned that when the phase 1 crew retire, their replacements won't be able to carry the franchise. We'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    pixelburp wrote: »
    That's freaky cos lately YouTube has been pushing his videos on me, had been meaning to take a stab. He any good?

    Though swinging back to the original thread, and still after the fact this is the first MCU film since Dr Strange where I simply didn't care for the titular character. For all the talk of flat cinematography, I enjoy the MCU for the characters and interplay. Danvers left me a bit ... shoulder shruggy.

    A bit concerned that when the phase 1 crew retire, their replacements won't be able to carry the franchise. We'll see.

    I think he's entertaining and thoughtful. I have a near limitless apetite for assorted Youtube film videos though, so YMMV.
    He has a measured video about the Last Jedi, and I feel that sorts the wheat from the chaff in some respects.

    She's won an Oscar hasn't she? Not that that means that much, but surely the woman herself has the competency? The only other time I've seen her was a fairly minor role in Scott Pilgrim vs the World, and she was fairly electric there, albeit that musicals tend to give an easier route to that than a drama (even a light, comic-booky one).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Gbear wrote: »
    Well, at any rate PB, this guy agrees with you.





    At the end of the 2nd video he notes there's going to be a part three (presumably in a week or so).

    One of the topics he's going to cover (presumably in contrast) is Thor Ragnarok.

    Thinking back on it, it's remarkable both in theory and in execution (not like Black Panther, which despite having someone like Ryan Coogler on board, I still thought was kinda crap and large chunks of it didn't have a stamp of personality on it) how distinct a film it is, not just in getting on board the visual style and timing and visual comedic flair of Taika Waititi, but perhaps even more so, in bringing in someone like Mark Mothersbaugh, who from his filmography has worked on lots of garbage, as would be expected for someone who has done the music for probably hundreds of productions in tv and film, but in this film you're getting the full Devo experience, and it's just a million miles away from anything else in the MCU.

    It's kinda hard to piece together how Marvel work, with on the one hand being willing to totally push the boat out for the third in perhaps the weakest of the big 3 solo film trilogies and get a really unique vision and sound for the film, and on the other hand, whether you like it or not, having otherwise so consistent and grounded a throughline through all their other films, and Captain Marvel is no exception.


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    El Duda wrote: »
    I think the main issue with this film is that while it was admirable to come at the origin story from a different angle, glossing over some of the typical tropes meant that it was hard to relate to Carol Danvers as a character.

    It was ambitious for them to gloss over the crucial milestones in her upbringing; karaoke, box car racing etc... by using memory search flashbacks. The problem is that it doesn't give the audience any meat to hook onto. Some of those scenes needed to be expanded on. I appreciate the attempt to avoid what would most likely have been pretty cliché, but a mainstream audience needs some of that.

    Also, the way she just remembered things without any ceremony. Like when she remembered her nickname for the little girl. They chose not to have a 'moment of realisation' cliché and instead just drop the line without warning.

    Appreciate the attempt of subverting expectations but not sure it quite worked. It's a midtable MCU entry imo.

    I did enjoy it though and i'm going to see it again tonight with the Mrs.



    It's not the "moment of realisation" but there was no emotion associated with it.
    Like when "you remembered" there was no payoff, no "ha yeah, cool" or such, it was just "yeah, I did" *small smile*.

    So disappointed with this and not because it was bad, just because it was not good. It was a solid Meh, got the same feeling from the first Thor film. Everything was there and seemed set up to work but there was just no meat to the key points. The difference in Thor was is that they at least nailed Thor and Loki characterisation.

    I've been loving the idea of a Captain Marvel film since my first glimpse of the character in the 90's X-Men cartoon, where she was mentally absorbed by Rogue.
    Then read the stories and they tried so much to show the blank-slate Carol, but the film missed by showing as if that it hadn't affected her much at all. 3 days or no there should have been real anger/despondency/hate/loss just well... something!

    Regardless of her not being able to make a good points in public, without contracting complete foot in mouth, I am not going to lay this on Larson, yet. Endgame will show a lot but seeing as most of my issues with Captain Marvel film is with direction it's unfair to judge the actor too harshly. Yes Jackson was great as Fury but that is an established character and he knows how to play him, regardless.


    Overall it was a 5/10 for me which, in a way, is more disappointing that it being bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    It's not the "moment of realisation" but there was no emotion associated with it.
    Like when "you remembered" there was no payoff, no "ha yeah, cool" or such, it was just "yeah, I did" *small smile*.

    So disappointed with this and not because it was bad, just because it was not good. It was a solid Meh, got the same feeling from the first Thor film. Everything was there and seemed set up to work but there was just no meat to the key points. The difference in Thor was is that they at least nailed Thor and Loki characterisation.

    I've been loving the idea of a Captain Marvel film since my first glimpse of the character in the 90's X-Men cartoon, where she was mentally absorbed by Rogue.
    Then read the stories and they tried so much to show the blank-slate Carol, but the film missed showing that it affected her much at all. 3 days or no there should have been real anger/despondency/hate/loss just well... something!

    Regardless of her not being able to make a good points in public, without contracting complete foot in mouth, I am not going to lay this on Larson, yet. Endgame will show a lot but seeing as most of my issues with Captain Marvel film is with direction it's unfair to judge the actor too harshly. Yes Jackson was great as Fury but that is an established character and he knows how to play him, regardless.


    Overall it was a 5/10 for me which, in a way, is more disappointing that it being bad.

    Would agree with this in general (though I do have a bit of a soft spot for Thor)

    The movie was just fairly unremarkable. Went with the Missus, who's generally a big MCU fan, and she found it relatively boring. She was really disappointed in the Annette Benning character.

    I found it all a little bit too on point. The soundtrack was painfully unsubtle, there was no real emotional focus-point, and a good portion of the jokes missed their marks.

    The effects were impressive on the whole.

    I've rewatched a number of the MCU films on a couple of occasions, but this one definitely feels like a one & done movie for me. If they tried a sequel, I don't think I'd be too bothered with a cinema trip for it, and I'd really struggle to get my better half to go along.


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭El Duda


    I'm just stunned that someone read my post


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    Would agree with this in general (though I do have a bit of a soft spot for Thor)

    The movie was just fairly unremarkable. Went with the Missus, who's generally a big MCU fan, and she found it relatively boring. She was really disappointed in the Annette Benning character.

    I found it all a little bit too on point. The soundtrack was painfully unsubtle, there was no real emotional focus-point, and a good portion of the jokes missed their marks.

    The effects were impressive on the whole.

    I've rewatched a number of the MCU films on a couple of occasions, but this one definitely feels like a one & done movie for me. If they tried a sequel, I don't think I'd be too bothered with a cinema trip for it, and I'd really struggle to get my better half to go along.



    Got to agree with the soundtrack comments. I loved hearing "I'm only happy when it rains", especially as I am going to the Garbage concert in a few months BUT what was the reason it was being played, "I'm just a girl" was there for what; To remind us that Larson/Danvers is a woman? I'm not going to forget that, I mean she has a lovely smile (oh Christ, that scene was cringe and not for the reason they wanted)

    Guardians did the throw back so much better, there was a story reason as to why we were hearing these songs. It was Quill's only link to his mother.
    It would have been so easy to have the songs just playing in the background, on radio/jukebox, and lead into the scenes as they become the backing song to said scene. Then, later, they could play as the accompaniment to payoff scenes, without being out of place yet still being on the nose.

    More and more, that I think of it, it was directional issues I have a problem with.
    Larson can act.
    Danvers is meant to be a blank slate living her life through pictures while not having any emotional connection with events (even when she remembers the event). It is meant to really affect her, that she has no feeling about her past life, not meant to just be so blasé about the whole thing. There was not even a bad attempt to convey that, which has to be a directorial decision.


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    El Duda wrote: »
    I'm just stunned that someone read my post

    Twice now!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Got to agree with the soundtrack comments. I loved hearing "I'm only happy when it rains", especially as I am going to the Garbage concert in a few months BUT what was the reason it was being played, "I'm just a girl" was there for what; To remind us that Larson/Danvers is a woman? I'm not going to forget that, I mean she has a lovely smile (oh Christ, that scene was cringe and not for the reason they wanted).

    The one thing this scene and music reminded me of was Kingsmen, particularly the scene in the church. And it didn't really work here. It's a cool tune but it made the climactic fight into a cartoon without any sense of tension or threat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭El Duda


    I'm Just A Girl sounded odd in the mix. Like they didn't know how to use it properly.

    I also thought the Nirvana song playing on the turntable was a bit contrived. Other than that I enjoyed the use of songs. They didn't overdo the nostalgia imo.

    I loved the Pulp Fiction reference with Ben Mendelsohn slurping the drink!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Its on course to break the 1 billion mark.

    The reviews seem to be pretty mixed so I wonder has it done so commercially well because its the last film before Endgame?

    Its not like everything Marvel does breaks or comes close to 1billion either, superior films have done less than Captain Marvel.

    Although in saying that commercially its still behind Aquaman, which was IMO, was one of the worst superhero films I've seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Box office taking reports as a measure of success always annoy me, because they don't take account of inflation.

    this is more interesting.

    Highest grosses -
    Black Panther
    Infinity War
    Avengers Assemble

    Adjusted for inflation -
    Avengers Assemble
    Black Panther
    Infinity War


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭pah


    Just watching avengers assemble. When Romanov goes to see Banner and explains what's going on, she shows him pic of the tesseract.

    Banner says, "what does Fury want me to do, swallow it?"

    #payoff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,442 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    pah wrote: »
    Just watching avengers assemble. When Romanov goes to see Banner and explains what's going on, she shows him pic of the tesseract.

    Banner says, "what does Fury want me to do, swallow it?"

    #payoff

    I've been re-watching the movies myself. In Ironman 2 Tony mentions the Pegasus Project. He has crates from Pegasus and Goliath projects and uses items from them to create his new element.

    Since Pegasus is based off the Tesseract, Tony's new element is also based off it. This might explain why Loki's Sceptre doesn't work on him in Avengers Assemble because it's based off the same technology.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Another home run for Marvel. They say there's no formula for success, well I guess Feige is proving that wrong. I was very underwhelmed by this, I mean, it's grand like, and has its moments, but overall I thought it was only okay, and as far as origins go, its not the worst, but unfortunately the best thing thing that I can say about this is that it's a decent popcorn flick and does the job of passing the time, but that's about it.

    The casting is one of the films strongest parts, watching SLJ and Clark Gregg is a blast as young SHIELD agents, especially as an AoS fan. It's just a shame that Coulson has minimal screen time. Annette Bening, Lashana Lynch, Ben Mendelsohn are great in the support roles, and it's fun watching previous characters like Djimon Hounsous, Korath and Lee Paces, Ronan the Accuser pop up. It's no secret that Marvel has a problem with villains and this film is no different, Judd Law is a great actor, but there's nothing he can bring to this generic bad guy role, and YonRogg fits right into the array of forgettable villains. Brie Larsons performance is another tricky one, there's not doubting that she's a fantastic actor, and she's likeable in this, but the script gives her nothing, she’s essentially a
    passenger in her own film, I mean she has her powers because MarVell tells her to shoot the engine core, she fights the Skrull because the supreme intelligence tells her to fight the Skrull, she fights the Kree because the Skrull tell her to fight the Kree, she’s a badass because Rambo tells her she was a badass, the film is called Captain Marvel and yet the central character spends 90% of the film being told what to do and how to act. Only at the very end, after a nice little montage of a defiant young Carol, does she actually have some control over her own path, and after that point, we go the opposite direction and now all of a sudden the MCU have a character that’s more super than SuperMan, and more wonder than WonderWoman.

    I think at this stage it's hard to be too critical of an MCU film, because we're not just watching a singular film, we’re watching 10 years of history with 20 previous episodes, so it's more akin to a TV show, and I think that’s what saves this film. It has all the nostalgic elements and characters from the MCU, throw in Goose, some 80s nostalgia, and some cool de-aging sfx, and you have what otherwise would have been a failed tent pole, and instead you have a smash hit that’s about to pass 1BL at the box office.

    Some other bits
    • Here’s a pager, - Giant hole in the sky pouring out an alien invasion. #NotMyEmergency
    • Was that a
      mallrats
      script?
    • Stan Lee opening gave me all the feels
    • Last time I trusted someone I lost an eye.......:confused:
    • De-aging sfx, must be every young actors worst fear
    • Marvel getting creative with masking SLJ famous cuss word
    • Mother Flerken
    • #NotMySecretInvasion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭pah


    kerplun k wrote: »


    [*]Was that a
    mallrats
    script?

    [/LIST]



    Yes.
    Better spoiler that actually.


    https://youtu.be/YFLlwtqHINs


    Mallrats was released in 95. The idea is that Stan is reading the script on his way to film I believe.


    I also think the camera lingered on Carol smiling at Stan a bit longer than it should have, like it was edited to be longer than originally intended given Stan's passing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,442 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    kerplun k wrote: »
    [*]Was that a
    mallrats
    script?
    pah wrote: »
    Yes.
    Better spoiler that actually.


    https://youtu.be/YFLlwtqHINs


    Mallrats was released in 95. The idea is that Stan is reading the script on his way to film I believe.


    I also think the camera lingered on Carol smiling at Stan a bit longer than it should have, like it was edited to be longer than originally intended given Stan's passing.
    I didn't even notice the Mallrats script myself but Kevin Smith mentioned it when he watched the movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    kerplun k wrote: »
    Some other bits

    [*]Here’s a pager, - Giant hole in the sky pouring out an alien invasion. #NotMyEmergency
    A few people have mentioned this as a pothole, but why would he page her about that? He had put together the Avengers specifically to deal with issues like that.
    [*]Last time I trusted someone I lost an eye.......:confused:
    In fairness, in real life not everything people say reflects 100% reality. They will often either deliberately change something to make a point, or genuinely believe it because they've told the same story so often. Straight away, the facts were being changed by the rumoured story. 20 years later, Fury may actually have forgotten exactly what happened and believes the rumours to be true (if he was a real person, this could easily happen). He may also have just been making a point with the latter line.
    [*] De-aging sfx, must be every young actors worst fear
    Yeah, a bit scary for a lot of up and comers, now they'll never get rid of the top notch competition no matter how young the role is for! The only thing they have going for them is that, while the actors may look young, they still move like their actual age...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    He trusted the cat, it scraped him and cost him his eye. What's the big deal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Pter wrote: »
    He trusted the cat, it scraped him and cost him his eye. What's the big deal?

    I just found if funny that he hasn’t trusted anyone since the cat incident. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Johnmb wrote: »
    A few people...

    Thanks for clearing all that up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    kerplun k wrote: »
    I just found if funny that he hasn’t trusted anyone since the cat incident. :D

    I found the Fury/cat dynamic quite hard to accept.. I can’t believe a grown man wouldn’t know a cat would f*ck you over at the first opportunity, let alone an alien cat. Can’t enjoy any scenes with Fury anymore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Drumpot wrote:
    I found the Fury/car dynamic quite hard to accept.. I can’t believe a grown man wouldn’t know a cat would f*ck you over at the first opportunity, let alone an alien cat. Can’t enjoy any scenes with Fury anymore...


    Them cats man......not to be trusted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    kerplun k wrote: »
    Thanks for clearing all that up.
    ??? Did your computer not show the rest of the post, or are you just trying to be a smart-arse?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Johnmb wrote: »
    ??? Did your comp....

    I just don’t like quoting the whole post, so I just quoted the first little bit and then hoped you’d know that I was referring to the whole post.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lyla Early Luck


    I quite enjoyed it! i enjoyed the soundtrack, the sass, the kree homeworld was cool, the big twist, brie was great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Saw this on Friday. I've mixed feelings about it. There's a lot I enjoyed about it but oddly, Captain Marvel herself felt like a bit of a passenger in her own movie which was distracting. Highlight for me were the Skrulls. Their depiction and story was excellent. The main Skrull character was probably the best character on screen. I really bought into him and he worked well as a "villain". The bit of backstory to Fury and Coulson was neat. The Kree were interesting too and did add to the universe building of the MCU (cool to see Ronan back in his hey-day). Carol Danvers works well as a female superhero and not just as a token girl power hero. Brie plays the role well and with confidence... though lacking a bit of humour (which was probably on purpose). Speaking of humour, that was the biggest thing missing from this MCU entry. That moment with the cat was the only laugh it got out of me. Not every Marvel movie needs to be a comedy but they are pure entertainment pieces and part of that is the charm and humour. Those were lacking here. It did have a fantastic soundtrack though which put a smile on my face with some of the choices. Not done quite as well as GotG but still enjoyable. Overall, after a shaky start, things improve on Earth and the development in the Skrull story really steps up the quality of the movie overall.

    Big problem now though... the MCU has a "Superman" problem. Captain Marvel is so over-powered, where do they go with her.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bacchus wrote: »
    Big problem now though... the MCU has a "Superman" problem. Captain Marvel is so over-powered, where do they go with her.


    They had that with post-Ragnorak/Infinity Thor anyway and they can stay in the celestial/cosmic realm with her


  • Site Banned Posts: 101 ✭✭Sabrebo


    The soundtrack was cringe, it's like the producers realised how boring the movie was so they tried to con the gullible fanbase that it was exciting by playing upbeat music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Sabrebo wrote: »
    The soundtrack was cringe, it's like the producers realised how boring the movie was so they tried to con the gullible fanbase that it was exciting by playing upbeat music.

    yeah we watched bumblebee over the weekend and for a simillar set era the music is much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Bacchus wrote: »
    Saw this on Friday. I've mixed feelings about it. There's a lot I enjoyed about it but oddly, Captain Marvel herself felt like a bit of a passenger in her own movie which was distracting. Highlight for me were the Skrulls. Their depiction and story was excellent. The main Skrull character was probably the best character on screen. I really bought into him and he worked well as a "villain". The bit of backstory to Fury and Coulson was neat. The Kree were interesting too and did add to the universe building of the MCU (cool to see Ronan back in his hey-day). Carol Danvers works well as a female superhero and not just as a token girl power hero. Brie plays the role well and with confidence... though lacking a bit of humour (which was probably on purpose). Speaking of humour, that was the biggest thing missing from this MCU entry. That moment with the cat was the only laugh it got out of me. Not every Marvel movie needs to be a comedy but they are pure entertainment pieces and part of that is the charm and humour. Those were lacking here. It did have a fantastic soundtrack though which put a smile on my face with some of the choices. Not done quite as well as GotG but still enjoyable. Overall, after a shaky start, things improve on Earth and the development in the Skrull story really steps up the quality of the movie overall.

    Big problem now though... the MCU has a "Superman" problem. Captain Marvel is so over-powered, where do they go with her.

    The cd loading got a laugh at the screening we were at.. and the cats first action also got an uneasy laugh from a lot of people..


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    I enjoyed the film to be honest, it wasnt great by any means. This will sound weird but the biggest annoyance for me in the film was the street fighter 2 arcade cab in the bar in it. First off it was clearly a modern build, and it had a widescreen LCD in it! Shocking! Especially with their jokes about computers and slow internet.

    I also wasnt happy with the Pinball being smashed up either!


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    I enjoyed the film to be honest, it wasnt great by any means. This will sound weird but the biggest annoyance for me in the film was the street fighter 2 arcade cab in the bar in it. First off it was clearly a modern build, and it had a widescreen LCD in it! Shocking! Especially with their jokes about computers and slow internet.

    I also wasnt happy with the Pinball being smashed up either!

    Also a mid 90s PC with no floppy drive (or at least I did not see it by the CD tray)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Anytime you see a continuity error like that, an infinity stone did it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    The cd loading got a laugh at the screening we were at.. and the cats first action also got an uneasy laugh from a lot of people..

    Actually, yes that was quite funny. The interplay between the main Skrull and his "science guy" was fun too.

    BTW, is Carol ever referred to as "Captain Marvel" at any point? How is she "Captain Marvel"?

    I would have expected some sort of symbolic hand over of the "Mahr Vehl" name to her that resulted in her new title but there was nothing. I think there was a bit of joking from Fury that "Marvel" was better than "Mahr Vehl". Was that supposed to be the "that's where she got her hero name from"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭RedRochey


    I think Fury signing that song at the end was supposed to show where she got the name from


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Confusingly, 'Captain Marvel' used to be a DC character, sort of, before being renamed to Shazam :D

    Fadó fadó, Fawcett Comics printed 'Captain Marvel', which was quite successful & DC sued Fawcett, claiming he was a blatant rip-off of Superman. Which, he kinda is. Eventually, DC won the case and between the settlement & declining sales, Fawcett went out of business. DC acquired the rights in the 70s and brought Marvel back as Shazam (apparently they wanted to call him 'The original Captain Marvel', but Marvel Comics put a stop to that).

    On topic, yeah I wish they'd rename the character: 'Captain Marvel' is more than a little hubristic - which was probably the point at the time - but given how semi-seriously the MCU takes itself, the name just doesn't work in context.


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    seen this over the weekend. It wasnt bad, but like previous posters have mentioned, it wasnt the greatest mcu movie out there.

    I knew it was set in the 90's befoerhand, but my son hadnt a clue until half way through the movie. Did it mention this onscreen anywhere, apart from mentioning when the original accidnet happened?

    Didnt enjoy the cat at all. As mentioned earlier, it was a bit men in black like. What happened to the cat since? i mean, surely a govt lab would be conducting some sort of research into what it is.

    cm does need someone with a sense of humour to bounce off though, in future movies.


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    Well crashing into a Blockbuster is a sign...


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    Well crashing into a Blockbuster is a sign...

    Like I said I knew beforehand, and I know what blockbuster was, but my 12 year old hadnt a clue until half way through the movie. And blockbuster to a 12 year old from this side of the atlantic wouldnt register as quickly compared to a 12 year old in the states.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    dusty bin wrote: »
    Like I said I knew beforehand, and I know what blockbuster was, but my 12 year old hadnt a clue until half way through the movie. And blockbuster to a 12 year old from this side of the atlantic wouldnt register as quickly compared to a 12 year old in the states.

    Yep, they should have changed it to an Xtra-Vision for us Irish viewers :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭El Duda


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    Or wacked this on a TV in the background ^

    Ah its the 90's so it is!


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭dusty bin


    kerplun k wrote: »
    Yep, they should have changed it to an Xtra-Vision for us Irish viewers :D

    wouldnt have made a difference if it was chartbusters or xtra vision either to my 12 year old. My main argument was that at no point, did the movie explain it was 1995 until they referred to an 1989 accident which was apparently 6 years previous. Even Gotg made referrence to the year @ the beginning and then 'present day' or '26 years later' when it showed an adult quill.



    apart from the cat, that was my only other issue with the movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Went to see this the other night with the kids.

    Honestly, we all really enjoyed. The chemistry between Larson and Jackson was great. Plot moved at a good pace and overall the movie was really fun.

    My daughter absolutely loved the film, and even commented on that unlike with Wonder Woman, there was no need to force in some silly love story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    so Fury's boss
    looks like that alien if he were human? did they have the same accent?


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