Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

FunLover18 · 09-12-2018 5:03pm

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Why bother posting in the thread if you're not even going to see it?

gmisk · 09-12-2018 5:10pm

Penn wrote: »

I think it actually makes sense. We saw on the screens Banner was looking at that they thought Scott had been killed in the Snap (aka
'The Decimation'
according to sources). The fact that now Scott has somehow returned gives them a bit of hope, a sign that maybe somehow, what happened can be reversed or people brought back. While the rest of the trailer is them beaten, lost, largely aimless... Scott somehow coming back (seemingly after a decent period of time if Cap's first reaction was to question whether it was an old recording) is the glimmer of hope that will give them something to fight for.

Admittedly, the tone of it is jarring considering the rest of the trailer, but I think it works.

I might be wrong here (only saw it once) but I thought at the end of ant man and the wasp

Scott didn't disappear at the thanos finger click, he was just trapped in the quantum realm as the 3 people with him operating machinery etc did turn to dust? The question isn't then how did he come back from being turned to dust..because he didn't

RobbingBandit · 09-12-2018 5:28pm

Looks amazing love Paul Rudd and Jeremy Renner damn someone freeze me put me in a coma I don't care just don't make me wait 5 months for this.

paulbok · 09-12-2018 7:09pm

fitz wrote: »

Wouldn't it be great if this was only trailer they released? It's not like they really need to market this movie, everyone's going to go see it.

Think there was around 12.5 minutes altogether from all the trailers for IW.
Mind you some of that was a mis-direct on the plot. Would expect the same again.
Most of that trailer would have to be early on in the movie, so as previously mentioned, the next trailer should have more reveals in it.
The second official trailer was in mid March so probably can expect the same time frame this time as well.

Tazzimus · 09-12-2018 11:10pm

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Because not all of us thought it was ****e..

I can't wait, all aboard the hype train.

EagererBeaver · 09-12-2018 11:24pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

Because not all of us thought it was ****e..

I can't wait, all aboard the hype train.

Indeed. Choo ****ing choo!

GavRedKing · 10-12-2018 10:36am

AMKC wrote: »

Why Bother going to see this. The last film was terrible, it was predictable and was way overhyped. We already know what happens in this one Iron Man dies in Peppers arms and half the Universe's population has been wiped out by the boring megalomaniac with the rings.
Certainly not on my list of film's to see next year. Going to skip it thanks but no thanks.

I'm convinced, I think I'll skip it too. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Johnmb · 10-12-2018 11:41pm

gmisk wrote: »

I might be wrong here (only saw it once) but I thought at the end of ant man and the wasp
Scott didn't disappear at the thanos finger click, he was just trapped in the quantum realm as the 3 people with him operating machinery etc did turn to dust? The question isn't then how did he come back from being turned to dust..because he didn't

Yeah, I wonder are the people on the list they are viewing assumed dead because they are missing, or will they have worked out a formula because the snap wasn't as random as Thanos expected. If the former, then they shouldn't be that surprised at someone thought dead showing up, but if the latter then it means that

anything in the quantum realm was out of reach of the snap and the Infinity Stones

, which could give a

non-time travelling

way to deal with the outcome of the snap. Potential options to not be as obvious as it seems to be...

Bacchus · 11-12-2018 9:33am

Johnmb wrote: »

Yeah, I wonder are the people on the list they are viewing assumed dead because they are missing, or will they have worked out a formula because the snap wasn't as random as Thanos expected. If the former, then they shouldn't be that surprised at someone thought dead showing up, but if the latter then it means that
anything in the quantum realm was out of reach of the snap and the Infinity Stones
, which could give a
non-time travelling
way to deal with the outcome of the snap. Potential options to not be as obvious as it seems to be...

I think the simpler answer is the right one here. The assumed he died in the snap and were therefore surprised to see him knocking on the door.

Regarding the quantum realm theory, we have a sample size of one (Ant-Man) so there's not much to go on there.

abcabc123123 · 11-12-2018 1:07pm

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I think there could be a mid-movie time jump. I'm probably wrong but here is my rationale:

Various photos from the set suggest to me that there may be several. Of course they could just be filming flashbacks or BARFing... but I reckon we could see Ant-Man escaping the quantum realm via a time vortex and emerging in the future. His daughter fills him in on the history and then he starts jumping back to various periods to try to change it.

Mr E · 04-02-2019 12:47am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFq6IcAxBc

Slydice · 04-02-2019 12:50am

30 seconds and I'm like.. YES!

Agent Coulson · 04-02-2019 1:10am

That did a good job at teasing.

pixelburp · 04-02-2019 10:13am

Good to see they're at least leaning into the obvious social ramifications of half the planet disappearing; the image of the State of Liberty surrounded by docked ships, was a pretty powerful and evocative image.

TheIrishGrover · 04-02-2019 10:43am

Yeah, that was a good trailer. Displayed just enough without showing anything: All wet and grey and grim as you'd expect. First 30 mins isn't exactly gonna be Thor Ragnarok.

Very difficult to come out with a trailer for a movie like this: Obviously they have to un-do The Snap (Or Marvel's 2019-2025 movie schedule is in SERIOUS trouble

). But how to advertise a movie without showing it.

I remember following when the trailer for Lord of The Rings: The Two towers came out and you suddenly see Gandalf. I couldn't believe they showed that. I thought that they had ruined the surprise. However, my niece was a huge fan but hadn't read the books and her take on Gandalf's appearance was "OMG: He's all in white!!! He's gone bad!". So I think they pulled it off.

I get the impression that everything we have seen so far is within the first 30 mins of a 2 hour movie. Yeah, did the job nicely. I have always liked what The Russo Brothers brought to Marvel. Winter Soldier is my favourite Captain America movie. I like the tone they bring.

ILikeBoats · 04-02-2019 11:25am

https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/3/18209890/avengers-endgame-super-bowl-trailer-missing-character

irish_stevo815 · 04-02-2019 12:09pm

I wonder how prominent Thanos will be in this one since there hasn't been a full shot of him between the 2 teasers.

I know that the Russos said that Infinity War is a Thanos movie but presuming he is still the big bad in Endgame, he will surely get a lot of screen time again?

Loughc · 04-02-2019 3:31pm

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

I wonder how prominent Thanos will be in this one since there hasn't been a full shot of him between the 2 teasers.

I know that the Russos said that Infinity War is a Thanos movie but presuming he is still the big bad in Endgame, he will surely get a lot of screen time again?

I've a feeling the big bad for most of the movie won't be Thanos, I imagine with half of the population gone and the Avengers in chaos now would be a good time for a new baddie to attack... or possibly invade... Kree/Skrulls invasions even?

I imagine we'll see Thanos in the end through either time travel or a way to finish his arc.

irish_stevo815 · 04-02-2019 3:39pm

Loughc wrote: »

I've a feeling the big bad for most of the movie won't be Thanos, I imagine with half of the population gone and the Avengers in chaos now would be a good time for a new baddie to attack... or possibly invade... Kree/Skrulls invasions even?

I imagine we'll see Thanos in the end through either time travel or a way to finish his arc.

Yeah I think the release date of Captain Marvel is no coincidence as it will introduce Skrulls to the audience

Baggly · 04-02-2019 3:45pm

Kevin Feige said all the trailer footage they would be releasing would be from the first 15-20 mins of the movie; i like that approach. We literally have no idea what way the movie will go. At best all we are doing is seeing what characters may be involved. Even that is shrouded.

Frustrating, as id love to know more details; but well hyped for the film as a result.

nix · 04-02-2019 4:52pm

Rumor has it, this is the score for the first 30mins of the movie...srsly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHrKoE1cdEo

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 05-02-2019 12:01pm

nix wrote: »

Rumor has it, this is the score for the first 30mins of the movie...srsly

Not a bad choice I think. This music is perfectly suited for a show that has a lot of "moments". Moments that make you sit there and think about what you have just seen.

An example moment will be when Cap America throws Peggy off that cliff to get a hold of the soul stone.

Baggly · 05-02-2019 12:03pm

Jayson Small Fur wrote:

An example moment will be when Cap America throws Peggy off that cliff to get a hold of the soul stone.

'hey red skull hold my shield just have to do something'

Falthyron · 05-02-2019 5:30pm

I really hope they don't spend thirty minutes of the film showing how depressed and/or melancholic the remaining Avengers are because Disney has already ruined the drama by announcing a Spiderman and Black Panther sequel long before Infinity War. I don't know about other people here, but if they do that, I will be sitting in the cinema thinking, 'Get on with it. You are wasting your time doing sadness when we know most, if not all of the Avengers, will be coming back'.

Baggly · 05-02-2019 5:33pm

What would an appropriate amount of time to show people being sad about planetary genocide?

Johnmb · 05-02-2019 5:39pm

Pter wrote: »

What would an appropriate amount of time to show people being sad about planetary genocide?

They can be sad while doing something beyond just showing how sad they are. I think that's what Falthyron is getting at.

My guess is that within the first act, they'll find the solution. Then they'll set about implementing the solution, with a finale of them fighting to keep the solution and stopping a rehash of the snap. It wouldn't make sense to have an opening 30 minutes of them just showing us how depressing everything is before moving on with the story, as they can do both at the same time.

evil_seed · 05-02-2019 5:40pm

Pter wrote: »

What would an appropriate amount of time to show people being sad about planetary genocide?

Half the time you think <snapsfingers>

Baggly · 05-02-2019 5:42pm

Johnmb wrote: »

They can be sad while doing something beyond just showing how sad they are. I think that's what Falthyron is getting at.

My guess is that within the first act, they'll find the solution. Then they'll set about implementing the solution, with a finale of them fighting to keep the solution and stopping a rehash of the snap. It wouldn't make sense to have an opening 30 minutes of them just showing us how depressing everything is before moving on with the story, as they can do both at the same time.

Oh ok yeah that seems fair enough.

evil_seed wrote: »

Half the time you think <snapsfingers>

pixelburp · 05-02-2019 5:44pm

I'm presuming the earthbound material will initially involve Steve Rogers & co. trying to maintain law & order in what'll be a pretty chaotic world; certainly the shot of New York seemed to imply things have gone a bit "Shantytown". Rogers would be the type of person to keep fighting the good fight even after all hope is lost. The arrival of Ant Man may be the catalyst to start chasing leads...

Falthyron · 05-02-2019 5:50pm

Johnmb wrote: »

They can be sad while doing something beyond just showing how sad they are. I think that's what Falthyron is getting at.

My guess is that within the first act, they'll find the solution. Then they'll set about implementing the solution, with a finale of them fighting to keep the solution and stopping a rehash of the snap. It wouldn't make sense to have an opening 30 minutes of them just showing us how depressing everything is before moving on with the story, as they can do both at the same time.

Precisely.

30 minutes of them moping around being depressed would work if we weren't told who is coming back (for certain) and who probably isn't. In many ways, Disney revealing sequels for particular characters undermined the emotional impact of the snap, and even more so for Loki's death.

paulbok · 05-02-2019 8:35pm

Pter wrote: »

What would an appropriate amount of time to show people being sad about planetary genocide?

Almost 200 years here since the genocide of the Famine, and it's still a fairly contentious subject for a lot of the population.

Loughc · 05-02-2019 8:50pm

paulbok wrote: »

Almost 200 years here since the genocide of the Famine, and it's still a fairly contentious subject for a lot of the population.

Oh snap.

Baggly · 05-02-2019 9:01pm

Loughc wrote: »

Oh snap.

No potato famine.

Gbear · 05-02-2019 9:04pm

Loughc wrote: »

I've a feeling the big bad for most of the movie won't be Thanos, I imagine with half of the population gone and the Avengers in chaos now would be a good time for a new baddie to attack... or possibly invade... Kree/Skrulls invasions even?

Half of all them are gone as well so they're probably not in much better nick.

Baggly · 05-02-2019 9:13pm

We could get more of a tie in to Cpt Marvel than we expect and one of the surviving heroes is a skrull. That would be amusing.

TheIrishGrover · 08-02-2019 10:49am

Jayson Small Fur wrote: »

Not a bad choice I think. This music is perfectly suited for a show that has a lot of "moments". Moments that make you sit there and think about what you have just seen.

An example moment will be when Cap America throws Peggy off that cliff to get a hold of the soul stone.

From the excellent "Team Darryl" Shorts: Thor: "Dear Steve Rogers. Do you remember when I goaded you into killing those prisoners and you made me swear never to tell the other Avengers?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT07nq5WHUw

TheIrishGrover · 08-02-2019 10:53am

Pter wrote: »

What would an appropriate amount of time to show people being sad about planetary genocide?

That is SUCH a Human thing!!!! You do know that half the UNIVERSE disappeared, yes? And as someone who identifies myself as species-fluid I find your xenophobic attitude offensive. It's because of people like you that SpaceBoards has become so toxic to non-humans!

Baggly · 08-02-2019 11:02am

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

That is SUCH a Human thing!!!! You do know that half the UNIVERSE disappeared, yes? And as someone who identifies myself as species-fluid I find your xenophobic attitude offensive. It's because of people like you that SpaceBoards has become so toxic to non-humans!

Lol most of Earth dont know about the people in the rest of the Galaxy (did he snap the galaxy of the universe?). Cant weep for people you dont know exist! :pac:

abcabc123123 · 08-02-2019 11:04am

The rest of the universe would be pretty well justified in coming to Earth and wiping us out you'd have to say. Half the universe died because the Avengers didn't want to kill a robot and because Dr Strange made a vow. Pretty poor form in fairness.

Baggly · 08-02-2019 11:08am

It was Peter Quill's fault. They had it off him and then Quill started to emote.

TheIrishGrover · 08-02-2019 11:09am

Robots are people too, y'know. And y'know, Thor is Asrardian. He should have gone for his head. And when Bucket Crunderdunder makes a vow he keeps it 'cos...... 'cos........ GOD!!!!!!!!

Baggly · 08-02-2019 11:12am

Wild speculation based on nothing but a hunch, but ill spoiler tag it anyway.

Look we all know that Thanos was trying to depopulate the galaxy so that Galactus doesnt wake up. So he was doing the Galaxy a favour.

abcabc123123 · 08-02-2019 11:17am

Pter wrote: »

It was Peter Quill's fault. They had it off him and then Quill started to emote.

True. Burn his ashes.

TheIrishGrover · 08-02-2019 11:22am

Pter wrote: »

Wild speculation based on nothing but a hunch, but ill spoiler tag it anyway.
Look we all know that Thanos was trying to depopulate the galaxy so that Galactus doesnt wake up. So he was doing the Galaxy a favour.

Hah, wouldn't that be a killer post-credit sting alright.

On that, actually, most of the credit sequences were building up to Infinity War/Endgame. So what now? What's Phase 4? (3?)

Baggly · 08-02-2019 11:24am

Well they have the rights to FF and that cadre of characters now, dont they? Id imagine thats the longer term plan rather than rushing mutants into it. Something along the lines of the silver surfer rounding the curvature of Mars and looking on at Earth.

abcabc123123 · 08-02-2019 11:24am

abcabc123123 wrote: »

True. Burn his ashes.

Although, actually, would the Avengers have been able to kill him once they got the gauntlet off? Maybe he'd just have beaten them up and put it back on anyway...

Baggly · 08-02-2019 11:26am

abcabc123123 wrote: »

Although, actually, would the Avengers have been able to kill him once they got the gauntlet off? Maybe he'd just have beaten them up and put it back on anyway...

Dr Strange portals it away, jobs a gud'un.

Spiderman swings away with it, jobs a gud'un.

Iron Man flies away with it, jobs a gud'un.

Drax puts it on, stands so still that he isnt visible to Thanos, jobs a gud'un.

pjohnson · 08-02-2019 11:27am

Just have Wong pop in do the teleportation portal that removed Cull Obsidians hand. Job done in 5 seconds.

TheIrishGrover · 08-02-2019 11:43am

Yep.....
Starlord, me b0llox!

Johnmb · 08-02-2019 7:00pm

Pter wrote: »

It was Peter Quill's fault. They had it off him and then Quill started to emote.

I was watching it the other day, and I have to say, Tony was most at fault. Despite Quill hitting Thanos and starting to revive him, Peter (Parker) had the gauntlet off as far as the fingertips. If Tony had just focused on helping Peter instead of stopping Quill, they'd have had it!

One thing that has puzzled me since I first saw it, that maybe someone here can tell me what I missed:
Thor says Thanos killed half his people, but at the end of Ragnarok all the surviving Asgardians were on that ship, which Thanos completely destroyed at the start of IW. What did I miss? How did he only kill half the Asgardians, and not them all?

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