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Germans against bailing out Ireland

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  • #52
    irish_bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    hiorta wrote: »
    Wouldn't 'bailing the Irish people out' just reinforce the very selfish thinking that brought all this about?
    What's wrong with taking the medicine?

    most people dont like the taste


  • #53
    Fluffybums
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    bob, sadly I think the debt/mortgage time bomb is going to go off whether the dole is cut or not. Once the German and French economies start to pick up the ECB will raise interest rates to control inflation in these countries. Ireland will lag some considerable time behind so the economy will be down the tubes still, the unemployed will then be sat in homes with increasing mortgage rates..........
    The reality is the country cannot afford to pay €200 + unemployment benefit to 500,000 people (about 1/4 of the potential workforce). I do think that Cowen et.al. should lead by example and be benchmarked to levels in countries of a similar population and economic status. This should proceed down the levels of the public sector and each person should have to justify their position. If the excess was cut from the top down, I suspect sizeable savings could be made with little effect on the numbers of frontline staff. The chances of this happening are extremely thin unfortunately.

    Getting back on topic, why should the German's or any other country help out a country that pays its leader more that those os the G8 countries. Also, if the representatives of the people are dishonest, fraudulent, lazy, stupid etc. they take no responsibility and stay in their seats and are re-elected:rolleyes:.


  • #54
    irish_bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Fluffybums wrote: »
    bob, sadly I think the debt/mortgage time bomb is going to go off whether the dole is cut or not. Once the German and French economies start to pick up the ECB will raise interest rates to control inflation in these countries. Ireland will lag some considerable time behind so the economy will be down the tubes still, the unemployed will then be sat in homes with increasing mortgage rates..........
    The reality is the country cannot afford to pay €200 + unemployment benefit to 500,000 people (about 1/4 of the potential workforce). I do think that Cowen et.al. should lead by example and be benchmarked to levels in countries of a similar population and economic status. This should proceed down the levels of the public sector and each person should have to justify their position. If the excess was cut from the top down, I suspect sizeable savings could be made with little effect on the numbers of frontline staff. The chances of this happening are extremely thin unfortunately.

    Getting back on topic, why should the German's or any other country help out a country that pays its leader more that those os the G8 countries. Also, if the representatives of the people are dishonest, fraudulent, lazy, stupid etc. they take no responsibility and stay in their seats and are re-elected:rolleyes:.



    ireland and new zealand have a population which are very similar yet the prime minister of new zealand earns under 100k per year


  • #55
    Fluffybums
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    irish_bob wrote: »
    ireland and new zealand have a population which are very similar yet the prime minister of new zealand earns under 100k per year

    Our TDs earn a bit more than that - lets see the savings start at the top.


  • #56
    RoryH
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭RoryH


    Reading this thread makes me relieved that we elect representatives to debate political issues, and make decisions on them. Can you imagine the dail with with 166 average people there ;)


  • #57
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    RoryH wrote: »
    Reading this thread makes me relieved that we elect representatives to debate political issues, and make decisions on them. Can you imagine the dail with with 166 average people there ;)

    can you imaging the dail with 166 boards.ie politics forum members there :p


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