Dublin Bus looking for Drivers

liger · 27-05-2014 10:39pm

pp76 wrote: »

im just a regular man looking for info on this job
Hi can anyone help I was wondering will DB open up the application possess again ?

I would think so considering the rate of failures in the driving assement, medicals and then people actually turning down the contract when given to them, also a couple of people who started have already quit.

StreetLight · 28-05-2014 7:44am

liger wrote: »

I would think so considering the rate of failures in the driving assement, medicals and then people actually turning down the contract when given to them, also a couple of people who started have already quit.

Judging by some of the attitudes of bus driver haters on the Commuting forum, many of whom said that a bus driver's job was easy and they would do it for less money, I'm surprised Dublin Bus are finding it difficult recruiting.

liger · 28-05-2014 11:32am

StreetLight wrote: »

Judging by some of the attitudes of bus driver haters on the Commuting forum, many of whom said that a bus driver's job was easy and they would do it for less money, I'm surprised Dublin Bus are finding it difficult recruiting.

Well reading this thread and knowing a few drivers its seems there was plenty of interest in the jobs but :

1. Lots of failed the driving assement

2. The Medical officer has rejected many people who passed the assesment & interview

3. People have turned down the job offer after seeing the contract. Maybe to do with late shifts, lower pay than exsisting drivers

4. Some have already left the job ( I didnt hear any reason why )

Maybe DB thought they would have an endless supply of cheap labour after the recession but are now struggling to hire on bad T&Cs.

Maybe people saw DB were hiring and thought they would have a chance of a decent job but then found out they would be working lates all the time for less money than those people working with them.

Contrails · 06-06-2014 9:16am

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Human-Resources/

The job's back up. Can't reapply if you failed to get in with the last batch.

cdebru · 06-06-2014 1:47pm

Contrails wrote: »

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Human-Resources/

The job's back up. Can't reapply if you failed to get in with the last batch.

Can't get people or people to stay apparently, where are the 400,000 people that would love that job back last August ???

cdebru · 06-06-2014 1:54pm

liger wrote: »

Well reading this thread and knowing a few drivers its seems there was plenty of interest in the jobs but :

1. Lots of failed the driving assement

2. The Medical officer has rejected many people who passed the assesment & interview

3. People have turned down the job offer after seeing the contract. Maybe to do with late shifts, lower pay than exsisting drivers

4. Some have already left the job ( I didnt hear any reason why )

Maybe DB thought they would have an endless supply of cheap labour after the recession but are now struggling to hire on bad T&Cs.

Maybe people saw DB were hiring and thought they would have a chance of a decent job but then found out they would be working lates all the time for less money than those people working with them.

The truth is that there is a very limited supply of people with the license and the CPC, a lot driving for private operators are ex DB/BE and they don't want them back, and not many of the rest are up to scratch either driving skills, medically or attitude wise and some of those that are don't want the ****ty hours on offer.

DB might have to have a rethink and reopen the training school if they want to fill these jobs anytime soon.

chaz123 · 08-06-2014 10:25am

i applied last batch past first couple of stages failed at driving stage even though i have driven trucks and buses for 25 years no accidents or penalty points i think their process is a blunt instrument surely somebody with a clean record and cpc s up to date is worth training and if you failed the first batch you cannot reapply this time equal opportunity employer my eye.

cdebru · 08-06-2014 2:01pm

chaz123 wrote: »

i applied last batch past first couple of stages failed at driving stage even though i have driven trucks and buses for 25 years no accidents or penalty points i think their process is a blunt instrument surely somebody with a clean record and cpc s up to date is worth training and if you failed the first batch you cannot reapply this time equal opportunity employer my eye.

Sorry how does not letting you apply twice for the same position in which they gave already rejected you make them not an equal opportunities employer? Do you know what equal opportunities employer means ?

Your issue is one that DB is probably realizing now, it is probably better to train someone from scratch than to try and change the habits of 25 years of driving trucks and buses.

chaz123 · 09-06-2014 11:49pm

my issue was that my driving history accident free meant nothing to db it all came down to that one hour keeping it all together a bit like a driving test everybody will be a bit nervous when they are been watched. db seem to have their process in reverse if it were me i would interview first get to know the person their work ethic and driving experience and then take them on the road more than once to access them properly.

PeteK* · 09-06-2014 11:55pm

They say you can not have endorsements on your licence but in the list of what you need, they ask you to tell you what endorsements you have.

Is that not contradicting itself? You can't apply if you don't have a clean licence.. but if you do, tell them what the endorsements are so they can just confirm you're not able to be considering for the position. :S

What exactly are endorsements?
Are the driving bans?
Points, too?

cdebru · 10-06-2014 3:18pm

chaz123 wrote: »

my issue was that my driving history accident free meant nothing to db it all came down to that one hour keeping it all together a bit like a driving test everybody will be a bit nervous when they are been watched. db seem to have their process in reverse if it were me i would interview first get to know the person their work ethic and driving experience and then take them on the road more than once to access them properly.

Tbh if you can drive properly you only need one go at it, you can't go back and redo stuff when you would be out working and you would have people watching you everyday every move. Work ethic and driving experience are important but your ability to perform under a little pressure tells them more.

cdebru · 10-06-2014 3:21pm

PeteK* wrote: »

They say you can not have endorsements on your licence but in the list of what you need, they ask you to tell you what endorsements you have.

Is that not contradicting itself? You can't apply if you don't have a clean licence.. but if you do, tell them what the endorsements are so they can just confirm you're not able to be considering for the position. :S

What exactly are endorsements?
Are the driving bans?
Points, too?

So they should just presume no one that applied ignored the rule on endorsements and they all have no endorsements ?

chaz123 · 11-06-2014 10:15pm

cdebru wrote: »

Tbh if you can drive properly you only need one go at it, you can't go back and redo stuff when you would be out working and you would have people watching you everyday every move. Work ethic and driving experience are important but your ability to perform under a little pressure tells them more.

if you don't mind i am entitled to express my opinion without your condescending smug attitude are you a spokes person for db? i can drive properly and have never seen a accident report in my life can you say the same.high moral ground bulls**t.

Careful_now! · 29-06-2014 1:05pm

How are the new recruits finding working for Dublin Bus? Are ye settled in yet? Have ye had any problems?

cdebru · 29-06-2014 4:13pm

chaz123 wrote: »

if you don't mind i am entitled to express my opinion without your condescending smug attitude are you a spokes person for db? i can drive properly and have never seen a accident report in my life can you say the same.high moral ground bulls**t.

I believe you think you can drive well but the proof is in the pudding, you had a chance to show your driving skills but you failed to shine enough said. It is nonsense to suggest they should ignore the evidence they see with their own eyes in favor of your opinion of your driving skills.
Now I don't know what your experience is but city bus, stop start, standing passengers, constant traffic, etc etc is a different skill to long distance coach or truck driving, so you may be a fine truck driver, or coach driver but that's not what they are looking for.

chaz123 · 29-06-2014 10:16pm

Finally, you got it a different skill and how do you acquire a different skill?{you get training} my point all along you train drivers for Dublin city stop start driving like you and the senior drivers got when db used to train drivers.if i took you out in the morning in an articulated truck to deliver up lane ways in Dublin city would you shine or would you need some training? Anyway i have moved on to a private company who appreciate drivers with a clean driving record who wont put their insurance through the roof.

cdebru · 30-06-2014 12:35am

chaz123 wrote: »

Finally, you got it a different skill and how do you acquire a different skill?{you get training} my point all along you train drivers for Dublin city stop start driving like you and the senior drivers got when db used to train drivers.if i took you out in the morning in an articulated truck to deliver up lane ways in Dublin city would you shine or would you need some training? Anyway i have moved on to a private company who appreciate drivers with a clean driving record who wont put their insurance through the roof.

What you don't get is they don't want to train people that is why they are seeking people with the license and the CPC. They want people who can do the job with the minimal effort from the company to get them up to standard. If they were going the training route they could have opened the job up to much more people.

For what its worth I think it was a short sighted attempt to save money that actually cost them more money because it took much longer to fill positions and left them short staffed and paying more overtime than necessary. Simple fact is that there are not enough trained drivers with adequate driving skills ready to fill positions, DB management obviously thought the any old monkey could do it nonsense often spouted was true, hardly surprising given most of them have never driven anything other than the company paid for car.

macroman · 30-06-2014 1:09am

Careful_now! wrote: »

How are the new recruits finding working for Dublin Bus? Are ye settled in yet? Have ye had any problems?

Nearly 4 months into the job and I'm settling in fine, took some adjusting having come from coach driving. The mentoring programme makes things 10x easier to adjust to - probably wouldn't have stuck the job if I had a bollix for a mentor :pac: I'm working 5 days most weeks, getting a mixture of reliefs and lates on rostered days and earlies and reliefs on rest days. I haven't gotten lost or crashed a bus yet which is a bonus

Was monitored recently, got a decent report so no P45 on the horizon

frankyboy1986 · 30-06-2014 8:54am

im only just finished the mentoring ,we seem to be the last ones to have gotten through from the last recruitment campaign,So far its been a very positive experience,I havent gotten lost yet and I havent crashed either,I happened to get a great mentor who made things much easier.Im only in the garage and ive already done 2 rest days so there defo seems to be plenty of overtime available for those who want it.

Contrails · 07-07-2014 11:54pm

Anyone know how they're getting on filling the vacancies? It's something I wouldn't mind giving a bash however I lack the rather important d license and cpc.

Of course by the time i'd have those this will probably be all wrapped up again. So I suppose i'm just wondering do folks think they might recruit trainees again or is it going to be just current cat D license holders only for the foreseeable future?

PeteK* · 08-07-2014 11:00pm

Contrails wrote: »

Anyone know how they're getting on filling the vacancies? It's something I wouldn't mind giving a bash however I lack the rather important d license and cpc.

Of course by the time i'd have those this will probably be all wrapped up again. So I suppose i'm just wondering do folks think they might recruit trainees again or is it going to be just current cat D license holders only for the foreseeable future?

How long (on average) does it take to get the D licence if you applied tomorrow?

What is the final cost including lessons, etc?

blinkey 101 · 09-07-2014 11:05pm

HI guys can anybody tell me how i go about getting a D license got the rom today to start studying and discovered its only for bikes and cars ?

so i there a disc for the D theory test ?

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 4:26pm

Hi.
There is few steps you have to folllow.
1. You have to have a full B licence
2. You have to pass theory test (you can book it in on theorytest . ie
I would advise you to book test now as you'll have to wait anyway
3. Once you pass your test with positive result you have to go to your Motor Tax office and obtain Learner Permit.
Having this allows you to start your practical (driving) education
4. You have to next pass CPC test (2 of them; one is a multichoice test, the second one is a case studies - here you will get questions that are not available in any of the book)
5.You have to pass practical and driving test. Driving takes up to about 70 minutes
6. If you do all of the above you can go once again to your Motor Tax Office and obtain your D licence.

Now you are bus driver. However before you can get on the road you have to obtain Driver's Digital Card (it is valid for 5 years).

blinkey 101 · 10-07-2014 6:34pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

Hi.
There is few steps you have to folllow.
1. You have to have a full B licence
2. You have to pass theory test (you can book it in on theorytest . ie
I would advise you to book test now as you'll have to wait anyway
3. Once you pass your test with positive result you have to go to your Motor Tax office and obtain Learner Permit.
Having this allows you to start your practical (driving) education
4. You have to next pass CPC test (2 of them; one is a multichoice test, the second one is a case studies - here you will get questions that are not available in any of the book)
5.You have to pass practical and driving test. Driving takes up to about 70 minutes
6. If you do all of the above you can go once again to your Motor Tax Office and obtain your D licence.

Now you are bus driver. However before you can get on the road you have to obtain Driver's Digital Card (it is valid for 5 years).

Thank you ðŸ‘ that's excellent :-) one thing how do I practice for the theory test can I buy cd rom ? I have my b/ c1/c licence .

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 6:36pm

HI. yes. you can get it from online shop (quite cheap) or in Eason

blinkey 101 · 10-07-2014 6:40pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

HI. yes. you can get it from online shop (quite cheap) or in Eason

Ah you're a star ðŸ‘ðŸ‘ðŸ‘

ShroomCrusader · 10-07-2014 7:08pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

HI. yes. you can get it from online shop (quite cheap) or in Eason

please yes ;D

thank you brah

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 7:12pm

ok!

ShroomCrusader · 10-07-2014 7:12pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

ok!

any idea please? :-)

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 7:42pm

I am sorry. I cannot post www addresses because I am new user boards.ie says. ...

ShroomCrusader · 10-07-2014 7:44pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

I am sorry. I cannot post www addresses because I am new user boards.ie says. ...

its no problem . just don't add the www.
so for example if its bing.com , see its still the link.

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 7:53pm

osm.ie/online-shop-page.html

dttstore.prometric.com/product/PROD019.html

easons.com/p-1512161-driver-theory-test-6ed-fs.aspx

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 7:54pm

Lads you owe me

ShroomCrusader · 10-07-2014 7:55pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

Lads you owe me

lol thank you but are you sure its just driver theory or etc ??

? ? ?? ??
/
thanks

ie.wojtek · 10-07-2014 8:02pm

Yes for the first step you need that book (I am preparing myself for an exam. I have it on Monday)

ShroomCrusader · 10-07-2014 8:05pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

Yes for the first step you need that book (I am preparing myself for an exam. I have it on Monday)

oh sorry I thought it was something else

k thank you.

Careful_now! · 10-07-2014 9:32pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

HI. yes. you can get it from online shop (quite cheap) or in Eason

The library have them if you don't want to pay for it

ie.wojtek · 11-07-2014 10:11am

Good idea but it has to be 6th edition

ian_m · 13-07-2014 8:35pm

Has anybody had to say yes to this question on the application form:
Have you ever been involved in a traffic accident for which you were held responsible?

V.W.L 11 · 13-07-2014 8:37pm

anyone know if bus eireann are recruiting?

V.W.L 11 · 13-07-2014 8:41pm

blinkey 101 wrote: »

HI guys can anybody tell me how i go about getting a D license got the rom today to start studying and discovered its only for bikes and cars ?

so i there a disc for the D theory test ?

i got my D licence,CPC etc,cost me over €2000 all in

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 13-07-2014 10:22pm

ian_m wrote: »

Has anybody had to say yes to this question on the application form:
Have you ever been involved in a traffic accident for which you were held responsible?

if you lied would they find out ?

i had a look at the form.... i wonder how they would take 6 penalty points ?

PeteK* · 13-07-2014 11:10pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

i got my D licence,CPC etc,cost me over €2000 all in

Are you including lessons?

V.W.L 11 · 13-07-2014 11:18pm

PeteK* wrote: »

Are you including lessons?

yes

V.W.L 11 · 14-07-2014 11:17am

i have been overlooked by Bus Eireann as i dont have bus driving experience!very cruel Imo,i have been told they conduct apptitude tests though has anyone here done one?if so what are they like?also found out they have 3000 applicants on their books,i've some chance:rolleyes:

ie.wojtek · 15-07-2014 3:45pm

ie.wojtek wrote: »

Hi.
There is few steps you have to folllow.
1. You have to have a full B licence
2. You have to pass theory test (you can book it in on theorytest . ie
I would advise you to book test now as you'll have to wait anyway
3. Once you pass your test with positive result you have to go to your Motor Tax office and obtain Learner Permit.
Having this allows you to start your practical (driving) education
4. You have to next pass CPC test (2 of them; one is a multichoice test, the second one is a case studies - here you will get questions that are not available in any of the book)
5.You have to pass practical and driving test. Driving takes up to about 70 minutes
6. If you do all of the above you can go once again to your Motor Tax Office and obtain your D licence.

Now you are bus driver. However before you can get on the road you have to obtain Driver's Digital Card (it is valid for 5 years).

Small update to this -
to get the permit and or the full licence you have to go National Driver Licence Service - not to the Tax Office.
it costs 35eu per application. You can book online the appointment or you can go and wait for a luck to be served.

I forgot to mention that you have to do Medical Check and Vision check too.
Thanks

BTW
On Exam there still 5th method - 40 questions/45 minutes/ max 5 incorrect answers allowed.
If somebody has 6th edition, if you take a practical theory test in there you'll have 100questions.
Between 5th and 6th edition questions are nearly the same. In the 6th one there is more statistic questions ie: How many people died on Irish Roads in 2012 by accident where the bus was involved?,,,,etc.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 24-07-2014 9:01pm

lads, what are your thoughts on applying for the job if your under 25 and have a few penalty points ? (Due to expire early 2015)

V.W.L 11 · 24-07-2014 9:20pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

lads, what are your thoughts on applying for the job if your under 25 and have a few penalty points ? (Due to expire early 2015)

I know bus eireann policy is once you are 23 and over,would depend on how many points no doubt.not sure is DB the same.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 24-07-2014 9:43pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

I know bus eireann policy is once you are 23 and over,would depend on how many points no doubt.not sure is DB the same.

will be 23 in october ! would rather BE to be honest.

i'd happily sit on motorways all day ! :pac:

V.W.L 11 · 24-07-2014 10:14pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

will be 23 in october ! would rather BE to be honest.

i'd happily sit on motorways all day ! :pac:

if you can get a private firm to give you the experience first then you are on the pigs back!BE and other companies keep using the magic words ***EXPERIENCE NEEDED*** but if you have any bit of internal help that would be a big bonus

have you got the licence,cpc's???cost me a bomb and still no job:mad:

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