The Dark Knight Rises - seen thread *SPOILERS WITHIN* See Mod Warning in first post

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly, what is your problem?

Would you have preferred him to do nothing?

Or maybe insist on no photo's?

You are an example of that well used phrase, "You can't please all the people".

If it was a PR stunt you can bet that there would have been a lot more of a to-do made about it on his way in. Not after the visit.

Actually whats your problem!? :rolleyes:
I just posted my opinion. Not with the intention to annoy. Or troll. Or whatever.

But YOU took offense to it. to quote what you said "You can't please all the people" - YOU are the person who you are refering to. Rather than coming back and stating your opinion in objection to mine (which is cool, hey this is a forum) no... you get back with "whats your problem!?" :rolleyes: rather than being mature. Clearly my post didnt please you.



ps,
in case you dont know (which clearly you dont) Hollywood is one fuc*ed up town. the business is mental. many an actor has seemingly done something "good" while the truth was they were just doing some personal pr work.

I dont know Bale. You dont know Bale. But you cant put anything past anyone in Hollywood. I want to believe this is bale out of the goodness of his heart. I genuinely do. I like the chap as an actor. But reality is actors have PR agents. So my question, even tho you disagree with it is:

Was this bale being a very decent man or was it cooked up between him and his Pr agent... that being, "Christian, make an unoffical stop to one of those hosptials. You'll look golden. be seen as a caring man. it'll make the news" .... which it did.

Who cares what his motives are, at the end of the day, some kids who witnessed a horrific event got cheered the fcuk up by a surprise visit from the hero of the movie they all paid to see. That can only be a positive thing.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It is a bit stupid alright.

Blake explains that when Bruce turned up to his orphanage one day. he had that same "look" in his eyes that Blake has. Both having lost his parents too. So he knew there was more. He must of been Batman. Thats what the movie tells us.

But by saying that.... doesnt it sound a little stupid? lol. Like ok Blake copped onto he was batman. But Gordon, harvey dent, even selina kyle (etc) having both known bruce wayne and batman didnt twig it? :pac:

THAT is the actual explanation? Seriously? I was so baffled by this I assumed there was a scene from one of the previous films that set this up, but I guess not.

I am genuinely exhausted from watching this film....the amount of exposition, plot, characters, action....there's enough for about 2 and 1/2 films in there. I only had a very general sense of what was going on at any given time, ask me for specific details on characters/plot devices and I could not have supplied them. I suspect many couldn't.

Genuinely dissapointed in the Bane vrs Bat fight scenes - could there not have been a bit more than slugging it out fisticuffs? Enjoyed Cillian Murphy's cameo a great deal.

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

The prison isnt the same as it was when Bane was there & Talia were there. The League of Shadows dealt "justice" in there. And its known as hell because escape is always visible and an inch within reach with the climb and jump. Theres nothing to stop you but most just cant make it. Having freedom constantly that close would be torture. And the doctor was paid by bane to keep him alive.

Theres been a strange amount of things people are claiming as plot holes that really were explained or easily interpreted. It really is a film people need to watch more then once. A massive amount happened in it and a lot of it seems to have been missed by people.

Way to condescend... The prison was far from hell, which was pretty pivotal to the plot. While we're on the subject, are we supposed to believe in all that time no one could fashion a grappling hook to bridge the gap? They didnt seem short on rope, made from pubes no doubt, perhaps that's why it was described as hell, having to climb out on a pube rope?

Seeing as you watched the film more closely than me, any idea why none of the cops could escape from a sewer system in 4-5 months. And was that washing powder Bane was dropping down to them in the supplies?

jpm4 wrote: »

Genuinely dissapointed in the Bane vrs Bat fight scenes - could there not have been a bit more than slugging it out fisticuffs? Enjoyed Cillian Murphy's cameo a great deal.

Cillian Murphy cameo was good :P

I thought the bane vs batman fight in the sewers was awesome (my favourite scene) Really showed batman was no match for him.

On the subject. I think the one problem with bane was the miranda tate thing. Like bane is built up as this bad ass. For over two hours. But then, last 20 minutes its revealed he aint top-dog. She is. Then he just gets killed easily by catwoman.

I knew going into the film Bane was breathing gas. To help with pain. I thought that was going to be the weakness Batman used to defeat Bane. But it wasnt. In fact, it never really explained alot about the mask.

rossc007 wrote: »

Way to condescend... The prison was far from hell, which was pretty pivotal to the plot. While we're on the subject, are we supposed to believe in all that time no one could fashion a grappling hook to bridge the gap? They didnt seem short on rope, made from pubes no doubt, perhaps that's why it was described as hell, having to climb out on a pube rope?

Seeing as you watched the film more closely than me, any idea why none of the cops could escape from a sewer system in 4-5 months. And was that washing powder Bane was dropping down to them in the supplies?

What would make it a hell then? Fire? Brimstone? Lads with horns sticking pitchforks up everyones arse? What exactly is this grappling hook going to hook onto? They cant see anything to hook at the top and everything on the climb is small grips and flat ledges?

And who said no cops escaped? You saw a couple escape but get caught and a grenade get thrown down the hole. A couple making their way out and large numbers managing the same are different things. You seem a little obsessed with the dirty clothes too. Do you work for Daz by any chance?

And I wasnt intending to be condesending but there really was a massive amount that happened. It was constant references and activities for 150 minutes. Things are going to be missed and if you look through this thread a lot of what people werent sure about has been easily explained.

jpm4 wrote: »

THAT is the actual explanation? Seriously? I was so baffled by this I assumed there was a scene from one of the previous films that set this up, but I guess not.

I am genuinely exhausted from watching this film....the amount of exposition, plot, characters, action....there's enough for about 2 and 1/2 films in there. I only had a very general sense of what was going on at any given time, ask me for specific details on characters/plot devices and I could not have supplied them. I suspect many couldn't.

Genuinely dissapointed in the Bane vrs Bat fight scenes - could there not have been a bit more than slugging it out fisticuffs? Enjoyed Cillian Murphy's cameo a great deal.

guys, ill just take it from imbd: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/faq a good read there if you have any other 'common' questions.

John Blake discovered as a child when Bruce came for a charity donation to the orphanage Blake resided in. Upon seeing Bruce, Blake worked out he had severe suppressed emotions that would give him a motive to become The Batman who appeared years later. He challenges Bruce with his suspicions of his alter ego when visiting. Though Bruce does not confirm his theory, he doesn't deny it either giving Blake the evidence that Bruce really is The Batman.

In short, He wasn't 100% sure when he first visited him.


Regarding some hate posts earlier in the thread, I found it funny about the 'plot holes' people are talking about. A lot of things are just there and even explained very quickly and precisely. Sometimes i understand why movies nowadays spoon feed the viewers everything. every fcking thing.

This is a super hero movie and is loosely based on the KnightSaga and Nolan is a very practical director that did some amazing job for everything in the film. If people wanna whine about it please do it in smart way eg. starting from the physics in the film, or lets say specific medical knowledge of getting recover from that spine injury in such a short period of time and in such condition is closing to 0.00000000001%. Batman's strong body+ mind of steel made everything happens, a superhero, alot comical relief, fighting = pow pow pow, cheesey scenes/ending, bam, done. How can anyone not enjoy this film is beyond me.

gonna cook up my review tomorrow.

Smartly Dressed wrote: »

Nobody showed up because they were too afraid. That's implied in the scene, with Foley being used as an ''every cop'', who is initially afraid then regains hope and courage when he sees Batman has returned.

He should of stayed at home :pac:

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Its just PR work guys.

Thats not to say bale isnt a good guy (you'd have to know him personally to make that judgement) But this is all PR.

Doesn't matter if its a PR stunt or if he did it himself, either way it is a nice touch. Those people went through hell, give them a break and enjoy it.

Saw it earlier and I have to say it was a great film and ties a lot of loose ends

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It should be noted however some of the victims families are trying to sue warner brothers.

Really?
Thats sad to be honest. How is WB to blame? Let them take on the NRA instead.

Anyway, this thread is for discussion of the movie and apparently its plot holes

I have a question:

Did Jim Gordon have a friendship with Bruce Wayne at all? The only 2 times I remember them meeting is when he's a kid and when he crashes the Lamborghini into the Swat car during TDK and they didnt act like they were on friends terms when they met then.

PhiloCypher wrote: »

I think the problem is that ADR much like theatre requires the actor to use his imagination more so then if he was on set of a multi million dollar film and thus there is a tendency to go over the top. I'd love to have heard Hardy's original line delivery sans mask , I doubt if would have been half as fruity and theatrical as his studio redub . As I said before I can't help but feel the cure was worse then the disease in this regard.

ill try find the link later but i red an interview where hardy said that in a prank while filming the prologue he tried to do a yoda voice, but to his surprise it was never edited out