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    #6512
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Have all usb ports stopped working or just usb 3?

    If you go to device manager and USB controllers, are the 3.0 controllers detected by windows?


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    #6513
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    tuxy wrote: »
    Have all usb ports stopped working or just usb 3?

    If you go to device manager and USB controllers, are the 3.0 controllers detected by windows?

    Just USB 3.0 ports. USB 2.0 working fine. I have an ipod plugged into a rear 3.0 port and its getting no power even, as its not even charging.

    This is all im seeing under USB in device manager:

    NVgnIwY.png

    No mention of 3.0


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    #6514
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    And they were working fine up until recently? Have you made any changes to windows or your system in general?

    The fact that it's listed as a generic hub may indicate that the correct drivers are not installed or have stopped working. Try getting the latest ones from the manufactures website.


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    #6515
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    Well I havent been using the USB 3.0 ports that often, but im 95% sure they were working ok when I first installed windows. I have tested them there with headphones, which are powering on, so there is power coming from the ports at least, but not recognising any devices.

    MSI includes a live update utility, and its telling me I have the latest USB drivers installed. I didnt make any major changes to the system lately that I know of. I reset the bios to default just there, and no change.


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    #6516
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I'm not sure how good that update utility is. It's possible it could miss something like this. You should be able to download the usb driver from the website. I'm fairly sure it should be listed as 3.0 usb in device manager if the driver is working correctly.
    Are you on windows 7 or 8?


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    #6517
    .E_C_K_S.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭.E_C_K_S.


    Headshot wrote: »
    I have had a tv as a monitor for a quite awhile(upgraded recently) It was a 32" Philips tv and I thought it did a great job for what it was.

    If I was you I build the pc first and wait awhile to get the money for a monitor, more important to get the best components for the money

    Have my Laptop hooked up now via HDMI and it looks great on the telly but it is huge.... I wonder is now the best time to be purchasing a PC or should I wait a bit and buy another monitor with it. Hard to get the balance right.


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    #6518
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    .E_C_K_S. wrote: »
    Have my Laptop hooked up now via HDMI and it looks great on the telly but it is huge.... I wonder is now the best time to be purchasing a PC or should I wait a bit and buy another monitor with it. Hard to get the balance right.

    Stuff like reading and video editing on a TV gives me a headache, it's awful. However gaming is just fine. If the main use of the PC is gaming I say get it now, if not wait until you can afford a monitor also.


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    #6519
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'm not sure how good that update utility is. It's possible it could miss something like this. You should be able to download the usb driver from the website. I'm fairly sure it should be listed as 3.0 usb in device manager if the driver is working correctly.
    Are you on windows 7 or 8?

    Im using windows 7 64 bit. I download the usb 3.0 renesas drivers from the MSI website, and no change. This is very odd as im certain these ports were working fine only a few weeks ago, its just I didnt leave anything connected to them since I have no 3.0 devices at the moment :o


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    #6520
    NTMK
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    NTMK wrote: »
    there was a diablo 3 rig done in a silverstone case and it was so clean straight piping excellent colour scheme ill put up a pic later if i can find one
    heres the pic
    6682579471_a68ebb2f70_b.jpg


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    #6521
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    That's pretty sweet.


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    #6522
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    The only thing about a 32'' TV as a monitor, is that you can see the pixels if you're up that close. If you're a little bit away it should be grand though.


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    #6523
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130606231316_Retail_Versions_of_Intel_Core_i_Haswell_Are_Hotter_and_Slower_Than_Expected_Report.html

    I think I'll be speccing 3570Ks for high-end OC builds.


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    #6524
    Nolars
    Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Nolars


    Serephucus wrote: »
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130606231316_Retail_Versions_of_Intel_Core_i_Haswell_Are_Hotter_and_Slower_Than_Expected_Report.html

    I think I'll be speccing 3570K for high-end OC builds.

    Not worth the money then no for ocin. I mite just get a 8350 instead.


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    #6525
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Yeah, I was reading that article last night along with their review for the the CPUs themselves which showed quite substantial max power draws.

    I'm beginning to think that Haswell actually kinda sucks.


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    #6526
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    For laptops it's absolutely awesome. 1) Because of the substantially decreased idle power draw, 2) Because of the massively improved IGP, and 3) because laptop heatsinks are direct-to-die, so they won't have nearly as much thermal problems.

    For desktops... I'm thinking "meh".


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    #6527
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Definitely. Should be some great options for laptops. Hopefully we'll see some competitors for MS Surface Pro. I wouldn't mind one of those. Except for the price.

    At least we should have... what's it called... Broadwell on the same socket. Just a shrink though so we won't see much gain. But heat should go down and hopefully stability won't be getting any worse.

    IMO, they should do something about the contact with the IHS. You're verging on recall-worthy there. That's going to lead to inefficiency on the desktop with cooling working harder than they need to because they can't carry the heat away. For a generation that's supposed to herald efficiency, it's counter-productive. Though they probably don't give a damn since it only affects overclockers for the most part. I feel it's echoing their previous mistakes with the pentium 4 Prescotts (or pres-'hot'). Although in this case, it could be fixed easily enough.

    I think AMD are in for a fighting chance for the first time in a while. The cards are playing out well for them if their next few releases continue in the right direction from Piledriver.


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    #6528
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I think Intel are getting a bit to comfortable. Since Sandy they haven't had much competition from AMD, and they knew it. Thankfully this is starting to change, but they've basically given themselves a tonne of overhead because they've manage to engineer a solution that's "good enough" (albeit barely) even with a massive bottleneck like horrible thermal paste.

    If Piledriver and others turn out to compete well with, or beat, Broadwell, all Intel has to do is spend an extra dollar at the factory, apply decent thermal paste, and boom, 4.0GHz stock clocked CPU with fantastic temperatures compared to the previous generation.


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    #6529
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    The thing is the 8320 and 8350 are better processors for things that make use of the threads. Pretty much right across the board they offer a better price/performance ratio and aren't far off 3770k performance for a lot less. The main drawback is their power usage but Haswell has narrowed that gap.
    Not worth the money then no for ocin. I mite just get a 8350 instead.

    Get an 8320 and a good cooler instead. It's much better value.


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    #6530
    Nolars
    Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Nolars


    BloodBath wrote: »
    The thing is the 8320 and 8350 are better processors for things that make use of the threads. Pretty much right across the board they offer a better price/performance ratio and aren't far off 3770k performance for a lot less. The main drawback is their power usage but Haswell has narrowed that gap.



    Get an 8320 and a good cooler instead. It's much better value.

    What kinda mobo would do the trick(ordering on amazon).


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    #6531
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    It depends how much do you want to spend, what cooling will you be using and what kind of overclock do you want? Also do you want sli support?


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    #6532
    NTMK
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    at this stage i'd like to go amd but i cant find a board with M-atx with sli support

    im even considering ivy now as i can get z77 stuff a lot cheaper and ive no plans to upgrade for another 2 years and haswell doesn't have a particular advantage


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    #6533
    beno619
    Registered Users Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭beno619


    Nolars wrote: »
    Not worth the money then no for ocin. I mite just get a 8350 instead.

    If only there were some ITX AM3+ boards we could use the cash saved to pump into a waterloop.


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    #6534
    Nolars
    Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Nolars


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It depends how much do you want to spend, what cooling will you be using and what kind of overclock do you want? Also do you want sli support?


    Just thinking of going 8320, evo 212 and a decent mobo to o/c nothin fancy. Ill only be running the 1 amd card. budget about 270ish


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    #6535
    BloodBath
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    This would do nicely for moderate overclocks.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-970-R2-0-Motherboard-TruStudio/dp/B00C15B2DQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1370697248&sr=8-3&keywords=ASRock+970+Extreme3


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    #6536
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    How's this for off-topic:

    Typing with medical gloves on feels weeeeird. :P


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    #6537
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    AMD's mATX and mini-ITX boards are shoddy alright. They actually had some good ones in the AM3 days - impressive connectivity with USB 3, SATA 6Gbps and eSATA which was amazing at the time for ITX. Now there's no ITXs and their mATX boards are just recycling the old chipsets they probably couldn't sell - look at that on hardwareversand. All 700 series or 700 series southbridges. Sure, a few of them have tweaks and are actually good value when you think about it on an extreme budget, but how hard would it be for the board manufacturers just have a decent mATX board in there. They could have gone with the 880G or 880GX which had 4250/4290 (paired with SB850) which was relatively decent compared to the 760G's Radeon 3000. Heck, why am I settling? They should be all 900 series! Is there some kind of ban by AMD given that there's not a single "good" mATX?

    I assume that they just want to segment their market and push people looking at smaller boards into FM2, which are actually good quality and value for the money.
    Serephucus wrote: »
    How's this for off-topic:

    Typing with medical gloves on feels weeeeird. :P

    Vinyl, latex or nitrile?


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    #6538
    Serephucus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Vinyl, unpowdered.


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    #6539
    Nolars
    Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Nolars


    BloodBath wrote: »
    This would do nicely for moderate overclocks.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-970-R2-0-Motherboard-TruStudio/dp/B00C15B2DQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1370697248&sr=8-3&keywords=ASRock+970+Extreme3

    Nice one. bye bye dual core i3 just cant handle what i throw at it anymore :)


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    #6540
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Serephucus wrote: »
    How's this for off-topic:

    Typing with medical gloves on feels weeeeird. :P

    so wierd , especially when the keyboards wrapped in clingfilm as well


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    #6541
    game4it70
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭game4it70


    To much sun me thinks :P :D


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