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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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    #8462
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Schools open = virus spreading

    Except the data shows that's not the case.


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    #8463
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    With all that's going on with this worldwide pandemic, it is very strange to hear the Green Party deputy leader Catherine Martin complaining about gender balance at Covid talks over the weekend (Irish Times online this evening). Don't we need the very best people in the country taking the helm in this battle irrespective of their sex? I wonder about the Green Party sometimes ......... well, more than sometimes.


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    #8464
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Tens of thousands of likely job losses all to keep kids in school (cough....childcare) for 6 weeks. I hope it’s worth it. Who’d have thought that 6 weeks off school would destroy a whole generation of children

    Well if nothing else, this lockdown will prove or disprove the “schools are spreading it” theory. Personally, I think schools are more responsible for the spread than is being acknowledged but agree with schools being kept open. If we’re still seeing big numbers in 2-3 weeks, it’ll be impossible to say schools are not responsible. If the lockdown sees cases reduce sharply, the cynicism (mine included) about schools will have proven unfounded.


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    #8465
    Multipass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    smeal wrote: »
    Where do people reckon does this leave non urgent hospital referrals/appointments?

    It leaves them a giant step closer to becoming urgent.


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    #8466
    Pretzill
    Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Tens of thousands of likely job losses all to keep kids in school (cough....childcare) for 6 weeks. I hope it’s worth it. Who’d have thought that 6 weeks off school would destroy a whole generation of children

    I wouldn't be surprised if the teachers union end up calling any extension to the midterm - it's incredulous to think that keeping schools open (at least to the usual degree) is not spreading this through the community - even staggering times or classes or shorter days for the winter (with a view to longer, more outdoor tuition in the warmer weather) - the children would catch up - as it is many families are leaving their children, themselves and their teachers open to catching this.


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    #8467
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    If businesses are being told to close their doors I don't see why sport should be exempt. It's double standard and extremely unfair, lot of these jobs will not be coming back.

    GAA should not be going ahead as a point of principle given the recent behaviour of some of its members & the contribution of that behaviour towards the current numbers. If I was losing my job I’d be raging.


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    #8468
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Coveney seems to have been the most vocal
    https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1318266941224738817?s=19


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    #8469
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Tell that to the county players on the club team here who celebrated their cup win with a pub crawl that led to several positive cases in the community. They obviously didn't get the memo.

    I have lost my faith in the GAA. It greatly saddens me and perhaps in time I'll enjoy it again .

    That doesn't have anything to do with the county championship though or anything I said. You can't compare them, they are really different.


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    #8470
    boggerman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Tens of thousands of likely job losses all to keep kids in school (cough....childcare) for 6 weeks. I hope it’s worth it. Who’d have thought that 6 weeks off school would destroy a whole generation of children

    And what about the time missed from mid March to end of June or have u conviently forgot that


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    #8471
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,919 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    There are hundreds of jobs in the GAA that pay a lot of tax . Do they not count ?

    Same applies to businesses that have to close, why are GAA employees any different? They will get the PUP too.

    GAA is a fkn religion and it has to be stopped from being so arrogant in these trying times. It would be a good lesson for them.


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    #8472
    statto25
    Registered Users Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭statto25


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    If businesses are being told to close their doors I don't see why sport should be exempt. It's double standard and extremely unfair, lot of these jobs will not be coming back, the gaa will.

    If done correctly and players are tested rigurously then it can go ahead.


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    #8473
    Zardoz
    Registered Users Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Wow Czech Republic is off the scale. It’s a linear axis. Exploded really. Wtf were they doing.

    There were elections in early October and the Prime Minister went against health advice to win votes.
    They stopped wearing masks and relaxed restrictions too much.


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    #8474
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    I haven't a clue what's open or closed anymore. I just walk towards automatic doors and if my face hits the glass, I just turn around and go home.


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    #8475
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Announcing a level 5 (lockdown) tonight, on Monday to come into force on Wednesday night, makes no sense and it will lead to panic within the population. There were people already panic buying during the weekend and I saw a video online with a queue outside Smyths somewhere in the country for this morning. There will be more crowds forming tomorrow and Wednesday no doubt. How is the government going to migrate this risk for virus spread?

    Also when the shops and non essential retail is allowed to open in 4/6 weeks time, there will probe a run on the shops in preparation for the Christmas. We saw the scenes after the last lockdown with nighttime queues outside of Pennies. How is the government planning to migate the risk after the lockdown?


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    #8476
    Limpy
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    If this is level 5 we need a level 10. A load of shyte.


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    #8477
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Lundstram wrote: »
    I haven't a clue what's open or closed anymore. I just walk towards automatic doors and if my face hits the glass, I just turn around and go home.

    :D


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    #8478
    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    I need to buy a horse and a nice hat.

    Few bottles of champagne, a picture with a GAA star and some other elite sports person and can finally have some proper holidays :)


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    #8479
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That doesn't have anything to do with the county championship though or anything I said. You can't compare them, they are really different.

    I don’t care, it’s all GAA, somebody in the GAA should have stepped in & stopped the carry on. What they did in Cavan was unbelievable. They tarnished the reputation of the GAA.


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    #8480
    Gradius
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Lundstram wrote: »
    I haven't a clue what's open or closed anymore. I just walk towards automatic doors and if my face hits the glass, I just turn around and go home.

    If the door is open, drink it down

    If the door is closed, send it back


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    #8481
    jos28
    Registered Users Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭jos28


    I really think that lockdown is the wrong way to go. I'd prefer to see level 3/4 with strict enforcement and a curfew. Give the Gardai the powers they need. If necessary bring the army onto the streets. That way retailers could stay open, drinking on the streets would be stopped and it might refocus peoples' minds.
    Lockdown until end of November, opening back up throughout December and by the end of January we'll be back to where we are now.
    The momentum of the March Lockdown is not here now, there is no longer a sense that we are all in this together.


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    #8482
    Pretzill
    Registered Users Posts: 4,684 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    And what about the time missed from mid March to end of June or have u conviently forgot that

    That wasn't handled well but at that stage anyone could be forgiven for not knowing what way to act. They should have opened the schools through the summer with a view to closing them in the winter - there was very little forethought employed. But either way they should shut now as another wave is hitting.


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    #8483
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    With the likes of Harvey Norman, Power City etc. closed, so those masses of people squashed up against each other buying a tv will stop, and with nobody able to have a drink in the fresh air outside a bar, or a ham & cheese toastie with coffee outside a cafe, we have a serious chance to contain this virus. Yes, house parties and mass gatherings will continue, but the worst of it has now been stopped.

    I thought the likes of Harvey Norman, Power City could open as they would be selling equipment for WFM - laptops, printers, etc. therefore called as essential retail. AFAIR, Harvey Norman has their electrical part open, but their furniture part closed.


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    #8484
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,680 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1318267842928742411?s=20

    Ah so schools aren't perfect, its just keep them open to look good


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    #8485
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    How does one exercise in the dark within 5km of their home if they’re in the countryside? Especially when working during the day.


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    #8486
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Education minister raised concerns about schools remaining open

    https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1318267842928742411?s=19


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    #8487
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Whatever else is to happen, this government must end up in prison. Justice must be done. They are criminals.

    Lock up and destroy the economy, but keep schools open and give no powers to the guards to stop house parties. Ok sure. If you're shot in the leg, do nothing about it but pull out your teeth, because....reasons?

    Prison. Mass protests, boycott everything, virus or no virus until these people are rotting in prison.


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    #8488
    Gradius
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    How does one exercise in the dark within 5km of their home if they’re in the countryside? Especially when working during the day.

    Ask a mole.


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    #8489
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Have NI introduced the same lockdown measures ?


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    #8490
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    jos28 wrote: »
    I really think that lockdown is the wrong way to go. I'd prefer to see level 3/4 with strict enforcement and a curfew. If necessary bring the army onto the streets. That way retailers could stay open, drinking on the streets would be stopped and it might refocus peoples' minds.
    Lockdown until end of November, opening back up throughout December and by the end of January we'll be back to where we are now.
    The momentum of the March Lockdown is not here now, there is no longer a sense that we are all in this together.

    I’m with you, it doesn’t take account of the way Irish people tend to behave. People will go mad when it’s lifted & probably in the next couple of days.


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    #8491
    rafi bomb
    Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭rafi bomb


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    How does one exercise in the dark within 5km of their home if they’re in the countryside? Especially when working during the day.

    Erm steet lights for a run?

    Next weeks class I'll explain how to tie your shoelaces


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