Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

g1983d wrote: »

How did he manage to sell Jordan F1 twice

These are the reported facts:
Jordan sold circa 40%+ of the team to Warburg Pincus in 1998 for a rumoured 60m.

Jordan received an equity investment from Warburg Pincus in 2001 giving Warburg Pincus a 49.9% holding.

An Irish consortium fronted by Merrion Capital bought this holding for circa 10 million in 2003.

2005 : Jordan is sold for 40m ( plus Jordans debts of 15m).
And you wonder why Bernie used to bring Eddie to banker meetings !

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

“you might want to explain exactly (and carefully) what you mean here.”

Hamilton is full of it. A few recent examples:

- He attacks Marko in public based on an hearsay. Didn’t contact him to see if he said what was claimed. He was forced to apologise.

- He disregards public health advice and social distancing to protest.

- He recently repeated his claim that he is ‘working class’ and struggled to make it in motorsport. His father was an accountant from Stevenage and he had backing from McLaren early on. Most struggle, he seems to think he was the only one. Apparently Stevenage is a ‘slum’.

- He posted a ‘pride’ flag yesterday. Great, fair play. Not so long ago he ridiculed his nephew for wearing a ‘princess dress’.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything here. These are fair examples, nicely selected to make your point, and its easy to see why he rubs people up the wrong way. However a general comment writing off his social media as "pungent whining" could easily be misinterpreted at the moment.

GarIT wrote: »

This isn't a political thread. GTFO!

I didn't bring it up, I just called it out.

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’ve read but not posted in this forum for many years. I read that post as Hamilton is a moany minnie. Something that’s been said about him for a very long time.

I think you’re seeing something that isn’t there tbh.

I was hoping that was the case, that's why I thought he deserved the chance to explain, but he just responded with abuse

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Can't we all just get along?

Nah, we need to chuck any Hamilton fans out the gap
But seriously though, leave the "calling out" to the mods.

Anjobe wrote: »

I didn't bring it up, I just called it out.

It's not your place to call anyone out, asshole. If someone is a complete racist here and thinks black lives don't matter that's completely fine. This is an F1 thread not a political one, it doesn't matter if you're Larry Murphy as long as you're talking F1.


If you have a problem with something there is a report button. If you don't have something to say about F1 don't say it.

rock22 wrote: »

I for one am glad Anjobe did call him out.
Far too much racism accepted in this country , to be honest.

Ok, I don't support BLM. And I'm sick of listening to hamiltons political ****. What are you going to do about it?

Last year Austria was a Red Bull track....first two races in and we could have a lovely and interesting championship leaderboard for both driver and constructor.

The order as I may see it this weekend: 1. Red Bull, 2, Ferrari, 3. Merc, 4. McLaren, 5. The other Merc-coped team (Racing-dot)

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

So, who is everyone rooting for then?

I suppose I'm a Red Bull fan but would love to see Vettel win the WDC, especially if it's to be his final season. Not a fan of Leclerc or Hamilton, for similar reasons; they're a pair of moanbags.

I read that Merc have re-engineered their engine to better tolerate higher temps, but they seriously struggled in Austria last year so if they're still having issues at altitude, they could find themselves in a hole after the first two races.

Rain forecast for the weekend too, which would be nice seeing as we've a double header.

Probably anyone but Hamilton.

I really admired LeClerc in how he handled the ferrari pressure and beat Vettel. I've always liked Vettel, so I'd like to see either of those win. I really like Max and I suspect that he'll make Schumacher look like a mild mannered diplomat when he gets into a position to challenge for the title. So I'd live to see him in contention.

I admire Bottas for his stoical attitude and he seems like a great guy. So I'd like to see him win (obviously very unlikely)
Danny Ric, Ocon, the mclaren boys. Anyone but Hamilton.

Actually I'd like really like to see a good fight for the championship. I think Hamilton is the best driver so the only chance that he won't win at a canter is if he's not in the best car. And that's not likely.

Agree, anyone but hamilton.
I think if I had to pick anyone I'd like to see Seb win. As a big FU to ferrari for writing him off.

AMKC wrote: »

I am also fed up of the Mercedes and Hamilton dominance of the sport the last few years. I would love to see Vettel win it or even Max Verstappen anyond but Hamilton this year. I hope it's a good tight fight at the front with at least 4 drivers fighting to be the champion at the end. I would like to see Daniel Riccairdo and Renault do well to and McLaren also. Hopefully William's do better this season as well.

I dont care who wins once it is not a merc or a merc driver,I would love to see 4~6 driver hassling Hamilton and fcuking up his races.:pac:

Ferrari got to Ferrari


Apparently they are abandoning their planned updates for Australia Austria after not seeing the results that were expected. The car will be the same as the one that finished testing in Barcelona. The team hopes to have updates ready for Hungary

pjohnson wrote: »

Ferrari got to Ferrari


Apparently they are abandoning their planned updates for Australia Austria after not seeing the results that were expected. The car will be the same as the one that finished testing in Barcelona. The team hopes to have updates ready for Hungary

I thought they were going a different direction rather than updates?

pjohnson wrote: »

Ferrari got to Ferrari


Apparently they are abandoning their planned updates for Australia Austria after not seeing the results that were expected. The car will be the same as the one that finished testing in Barcelona. The team hopes to have updates ready for Hungary

Jeez that's terrible. Mercedes managed to have updates and even rework there engine and Ferrari avd nothing. They are very inefficient at Ferrari if that is the case.

New opening credits released yesterday.

Looks like they put a video of Jos Verstappen on fire behind Max. Lots of lovely clips in there.

https://youtu.be/JBFPP_BG-qo

AMKC wrote: »

Jeez that's terrible. Mercedes managed to have updates and even rework there engine and Ferrari avd nothing. They are very inefficient at Ferrari if that is the case.

I wonder does it have anything to do with Italy being hit so hard by the virus? Perhaps their workers were kept away from the factory for much longer than the British based teams.

So what do we think, Austria is at 800m above sea level which generally narrows the gap between the Honda and Ferrari engines. The Mercedes seemed to be the car to beat after testing at Barcelona, but Red Bull impressed, while Ferrari did not especially.

Bookies have Hamilton a very marginal favourite over Max or at the same price @ 2/1, whilst LeClerc comes in 3rd Favourite @ 5/1, Bottas @ 6/1, Vettel @ 7/1 and Albon at a distant 33/1.

Vettel is a good outside bet IMO.

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I have to admit I just like the racing (and the drivers) and a lot of the mechanics goes over my head.

Why does altitude make a difference?

I read today that the design philosophy for Mercedes runs the turbocharger at maximum allowed revs more often than the Honda or Renault power units. At higher altitudes the latter can, effectively, be run at higher revs to increase air intake and hence power whereas the Merc PU not so much.

Plus aero is less effective in thinner air.

Bottas is going full robot mode this year - I can't read him at all!!

I'm hoping he's a bad robot!!