George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:04pm

FatherTed wrote: »

Looters faces caught on camera

https://twitter.com/ZKalium/status/1267653710265581568

I wonder if there could possibly be some context to police officers handling stolen goods....

1800_Ladladlad · 02-06-2020 10:04pm

Overheal wrote: »

Why single out black people? Or Antifa?

Is this not par for this course?

Do you know white opportunists were not involved in looting her store? I’ve seen lots of evidence of white opportunists

You said you hope that white opportunists and thugs are caught. I never mentioned race. You did.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:05pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But like, peaceful protesters should be gone home by 7 or 8 o clock..

Civil disobedience can be peaceful. Conservatives did a load of that in April, protesting law and order to stay in quarantine. Basic first amendment stuff.

Curfew is designed to justify, from what we’ve seen, tear gassing and shooting at nonviolent people because it’s 7:01 and not 6:59.

Kidchameleon · 02-06-2020 10:05pm

I have seen some very interesting videos of looting.

Jeff2 · 02-06-2020 10:05pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

I wonder how much Corona was spread yesterday during that protest?

I was thinking about this as an added amount of deaths the cop may have caused.

If he didn't kill the guy then no protest and less spread of the virus.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-06-2020 10:06pm

FatherTed wrote: »

Looters faces caught on camera

https://twitter.com/ZKalium/status/1267653710265581568

Erm, looks like they may be recovering stolen goods tbh.

CinemaGuy45 · 02-06-2020 10:07pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Erm, looks like they may be recovering stolen goods tbh.

:D

02-06-2020 10:07pm

Overheal wrote: »

Civil disobedience can be peaceful. Conservatives did a load of that in April, protesting law and order to stay in quarantine. Basic first amendment stuff.

Curfew is designed to justify, from what we’ve seen, tear gassing and shooting at nonviolent people because it’s 7:01 and not 6:59.

Haha.. yeah..Tbh man, I dunno..

Be careful what you wish for..

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:08pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

You said you hope that white opportunists and that thugs are caught. I never mention race. You did.

I never said you did.

I just took for granted you were following along and know that by and large BLM, Antifa, blacks, the protestors etc. have been blamed for the looting when there’s little clear evidence to blame all of it on one or all of these groups. I’ve even heard aiding and abetting thrown around to describe peaceful protestors who have looting happen in their area without their direct knowledge.

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:09pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Erm, looks like they may be recovering stolen goods tbh.

Shhh...

We don't right like your logical types round these parts.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:09pm

nullzero wrote: »

I wonder if there could possibly be some context to police officers handling stolen goods....

Into vehicles that don’t appear to be government issued?

1800_Ladladlad · 02-06-2020 10:10pm

BoroMan32 wrote: »

:D:D

https://twitter.com/AmiHorowitz/status/1267908030206816259

55 years of liberalism summed up in 24 seconds

Danzy · 02-06-2020 10:10pm

nj27 wrote: »

People are having their lives ruined right now? I am a small business owner, if my premises were destroyed I'd be basically destroyed for life, as would my kids. And this is due to a matter which appears to be statistically questionable at the very least? But if I say that I'm racist? Sorry, I know bull**** when I hear it.

Overheal said black and Asian business owners like you should claim insurance.

He isn't a Klan member he supports the protesters.

Easy to see the life he has had to date. He couldn't understand the pressures or losses incurred for life even with insurance.

Reminds me of the Christy Moore song.

He'll drive his big car and smoke his cigar, he'll never lose.

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:11pm

Overheal wrote: »

Into vehicles that don’t appear to be government issued?

For somebody who spends so much time on the conspiracy theory forum here making fun of people for being so easily duped by stupid theories you really have no issue lapping this type of nonsense up.

2u2me · 02-06-2020 10:18pm

Overheal wrote: »

Into vehicles that don’t appear to be government issued?

Who was in this vehicle?

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1267432104075370496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267432104075370496&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsone.com%2F3952056%2Fblack-woman-curses-white-people-having-brick-to-throw%2F

1800_Ladladlad · 02-06-2020 10:19pm

Overheal wrote: »

I never said you did.

I just took for granted you were following along and know that by and large BLM, Antifa, blacks, the protestors etc. have been blamed for the looting when there’s little clear evidence to blame all of it on one or all of these groups. I’ve even heard aiding and abetting thrown around to describe peaceful protestors who have looting happen in their area without their direct knowledge.

You are on crack.

Foxtrol · 02-06-2020 10:19pm

nj27 wrote: »

People are having their lives ruined right now? I am a small business owner, if my premises were destroyed I'd be basically destroyed for life, as would my kids. And this is due to a matter which appears to be statistically questionable at the very least? But if I say that I'm racist? Sorry, I know bull**** when I hear it.

Well your life would be a lot more destroyed if a police officer shot you or your kid or you lived in consistent fear of that happening.

No one is saying looters or rioters aren't bad and everyone agrees they should be stopped.

However, the priority you put on bricks and mortar over actual lives shows, at minimum, you relate or simply care more about business owners than what minorities are facing on a daily basis.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:20pm

2u2me wrote: »

Who was in this vehicle?

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1267432104075370496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267432104075370496&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsone.com%2F3952056%2Fblack-woman-curses-white-people-having-brick-to-throw%2F

How is this related to the instance of cops loading up looted goods into a private vehicle?

CinemaGuy45 · 02-06-2020 10:20pm

2u2me wrote: »

Who was in this vehicle?

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1267432104075370496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267432104075370496&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsone.com%2F3952056%2Fblack-woman-curses-white-people-having-brick-to-throw%2F

I salute common sense when I see it fair play to her.

2u2me · 02-06-2020 10:24pm

Overheal wrote: »

How is this related to the instance of cops loading up looted goods into a private vehicle?

Nothing. It has to do with that the 'peaceful protestors' are doing. Instigators is more like it for many of them which is unfortunate.

Kidchameleon · 02-06-2020 10:24pm

Are there people* too stupid to know its not OK to throw a brick? Jesus

*any race

Cupatae · 02-06-2020 10:24pm

The riots are ridiculous , the blm blaming the "white man" are ridiculous , let's burn down our city to make a point !

Everyone was in agreement it was horrific and tragic blacks and whites alike yet select groups are trying to make it into black vs white , you ve spastics then like Billie elish and pink preaching to everyone about white privilege all whites are privileged apparently

The whole thing has just become a joke tbh .

CinemaGuy45 · 02-06-2020 10:26pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

Well your life would be a lot more destroyed if a police officer shot you or your kid or you lived in consistent fear of that happening.

No one is saying looters or rioters aren't bad and everyone agrees they should be stopped.

However, the priority you put on bricks and mortar over actual lives shows, at minimum, you relate or simply care more about business owners than what minorities are facing on a daily basis.

Business generates revenue without that none of us have food power public services and so on.
Loss of jobs will cause deaths.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:26pm

2u2me wrote: »

Nothing. It has to do with that the 'peaceful protestors' are doing. Instigators is more like it for many of them which is unfortunate.

So one person among millions and you’ve attributed the sin to the entire group?

Imagine that.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:28pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Business generates revenue without that none of us have food power public services and so on.
Loss of jobs will cause deaths.

If this is your argument:

40M people lost jobs last month. The dozens, even hundreds of shop fronts damaged will be a drop in the bucket. Many vandalized stores are already rebuilt from earlier in the week.

Foxtrol · 02-06-2020 10:28pm

Cupatae wrote: »

The riots are ridiculous , the blm blaming the "white man" are ridiculous , let's burn down our city to make a point !

Everyone was in agreement it was horrific and tragic blacks and whites alike yet select groups are trying to make it into black vs white , you ve spastics then like Billie elish and pink preaching to everyone about white privilege all whites are privileged apparently

The whole thing has just become a joke tbh .

You were so close to going on an 'all lives matter' rant that you clearly really want to do...

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:29pm

Overheal wrote: »

If this is your argument:

40M people lost jobs last month. The dozens, even hundreds of shop fronts damaged will be a drop in the bucket. Many vandalized stores are already rebuilt from earlier in the week.

So the damage that has been caused is inconsequential? And that is BECAUSE people already had experienced hardships due to Covid19?

CinemaGuy45 · 02-06-2020 10:30pm

Overheal wrote: »

If this is your argument:

40M people lost jobs last month. The dozens, even hundreds of shop fronts damaged will be a drop in the bucket. Many vandalized stores are already rebuilt from earlier in the week.

Have a look at many of my Covid 19 posts I have said the lockdown will cost lives.

It's not an argument it is fact many businesses are already on the brink this is not going to help.

2u2me · 02-06-2020 10:30pm

Overheal wrote: »

So one person among millions and you’ve attributed the sin to the entire group?

Imagine that.

There are reports of piles of bricks being found in many places. So you've guessed I only saw one story and assumed I made a sweeping generalization... Imagine that! (don't expect much less tbh)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377069/Bricks-randomly-appear-protests-sparking-theories-planted-stoke-violence.html

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:30pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

You were so close to going on an 'all lives matter' rant that you clearly really want to do...

Or you wish they would....

GazzaL · 02-06-2020 10:30pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

You were so close to going on an 'all lives matter' rant that you clearly really want to do...

Don't all lives matter?

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:31pm

GazzaL wrote: »

Don't all lives matter?

That's racist.

~Rebel~ · 02-06-2020 10:31pm

Cupatae wrote: »

The riots are ridiculous , the blm blaming the "white man" are ridiculous , let's burn down our city to make a point !

Everyone was in agreement it was horrific and tragic blacks and whites alike yet select groups are trying to make it into black vs white , you ve spastics then like Billie elish and pink preaching to everyone about white privilege all whites are privileged apparently

The whole thing has just become a joke tbh .

In America, yeah, pretty much.

If you don't quite understand the breath of what that means, it's worth taking a look on. That privilege is not about wealth, it's about the things you do or do not have to think about in your day. What thought goes through your head when you see a police car, and what you have to do. A million things we're entirely ignorant of, because we're not faced with them.

Like, I see a lot of commentary on here that's Irish people coming with an Irish perspective on a situation that is fundamentally alien to Ireland. That's really important to understand.

The US is a very different place, with a very different history and culture, and where just living in their more diverse communities for a few years (or even months im sure) very swiftly impresses upon you that yes, in fact your life experience becomes quite different when you are not white. Just as a basic for instance - I've never had some random stranger scream something vitriolic at me from a car window driving past. I can guarantee that every black, asian, indian, pakistani person I know there has had that happen many times. And much much much worse than that.

I'm not saying bad things do not happen to white people. I'm saying they happen more to people of colour, particularly black, and with less reason.

Foxtrol · 02-06-2020 10:33pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Business generates revenue without that none of us have food power public services and so on.
Loss of jobs will cause deaths.

Not really a big care when

Minorities have been absolutely destroyed by being put out of work by the COVID lockdowns
The Trump administration has put its focus on bailing out large businesses than people - a single check for many
COVID deaths are significantly higher for minorities

Danzy · 02-06-2020 10:35pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

However, the priority you put on bricks and mortar over actual lives shows, at minimum, you relate or simply care more about business owners than what minorities are facing on a daily basis.

This is so telling.

You can't even imagine that business owners and minorities could be the same. No, they're helpless without the likes of you as far as you are concerned.

It is their lifes that are being destroyed by the riots, not whitey, the police aren't getting much, its black and Asian businesses that are being robbed blind and destroyed.

Cold.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:36pm

nullzero wrote: »

So the damage that has been caused is inconsequential? And that is BECAUSE people already had experienced hardships due to Covid19?

Your argument was basically people will die of poverty and starvation because Gucci and Starbucks and small businesses have been kicked in.

That is really hyperbolic. The property damage is sad and many protestors have tried to help police prevent it. However, I find it really hard to believe a store owner or an employee is going to roll over and die because of the disruption as your post suggested.

Foxtrol · 02-06-2020 10:37pm

GazzaL wrote: »

Don't all lives matter?

Yes, but when fire fighters come to put out a fire they focus the water on the building on fire instead of equally pouring it on all the houses on the street.

Some folks are needy enough that everything has to be about them though, which is where 'all lives matter' comes from.

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:37pm

2u2me wrote: »

There are reports of piles of bricks being found in many places. So you've guessed I only saw one story and assumed I made a sweeping generalization... Imagine that! (don't expect much less tbh)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377069/Bricks-randomly-appear-protests-sparking-theories-planted-stoke-violence.html

And we don’t know who is doing all that. But clearly it is done by people who want this to turn violent. They do not represent the eclipsing majority of protestors.

2u2me · 02-06-2020 10:38pm

Overheal wrote: »

And we don’t know who is doing all that. But clearly it is done by people who want this to turn violent. They do not represent the eclipsing majority of protestors.

That's why I was asking who do you think was in the car? What is your opinion?

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:39pm

GazzaL wrote: »

Don't all lives matter?

It’s gaslighting. It’s telling people they are selfish for wanting to ensure that black lives matter.

People did the same **** to condemn the Pride movement. “Shouldn’t we all be proud dur hur”

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:41pm

2u2me wrote: »

That's why I was asking who do you think was in the car? What is your opinion?

I don’t know who was in the car?

I’m not trying to be pedantic I’m just honestly not sure what you wanted me to conclude.

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:42pm

Overheal wrote: »

Your argument was basically people will die of poverty and starvation because Gucci and Starbucks and small businesses have been kicked in.

That is really hyperbolic. The property damage is sad and many protestors have tried to help police prevent it. However, I find it really hard to believe a store owner or an employee is going to roll over and die because of the disruption as your post suggested.

My argument was what now? Show me evidence that supports your claim.

You're accusing me of hyperbole?
Some of the posts you've written here over the last few days have been the stuff of fantasy.

Beasty · 02-06-2020 10:43pm

Danzy wrote: »

Stateofyou has a doppelganger in America. Same needs.

Danzy wrote: »

Are you trolling now. I thought you were somewhat reasonable but this " let them eat cake" stuff is off.

Danzy wrote: »

I'm guessing academia or multi national job, completely cut off from what is happening in the community these riots are taking place, might drive to protest some evenings as saviour.

They can collect insurances he says, cold rich kid happy to see others fall for his battle.

Danzy wrote: »

One of the priests here suggested black people like her should claim insurance.

Cold people.

Danzy wrote: »

Overheal said black and Asian business owners like you should claim insurance.

He isn't a Klan member he supports the protesters.

Easy to see the life he has had to date. He couldn't understand the pressures or losses incurred for life even with insurance.

Reminds me of the Christy Moore song.

He'll drive his big car and smoke his cigar, he'll never lose.

Threadbanned

Overheal · 02-06-2020 10:43pm

nullzero wrote: »

My argument was what now? Show me evidence that supports your claim.

You're accusing me of hyperbole?
Some of the posts you've written here over the last few days have been the stuff of fantasy.

What I got from your post was doomsday predictions about people dying because of businesses being looted.

So where was I wrong?

Foxtrol · 02-06-2020 10:44pm

Danzy wrote: »

This is so telling.

You can't even imagine that business owners and minorities could be the same. No, they're helpless without the likes of you as far as you are concerned.

It is their lifes that are being destroyed by the riots, not whitey, the police aren't getting much, its black and Asian businesses that are being robbed blind and destroyed.

Cold.

Do you believe minority business owners don't face the same issues with policing?

I shared this earlier in one of the threads, here is how the police treat them, the minority owners flag them down for help and the police instantly try to arrest them instead of the looters.

https://twitter.com/elizaorlins/status/1267655849239097344?s=20

2u2me · 02-06-2020 10:44pm

Overheal wrote: »

I don’t know who was in the car?

I’m not trying to be pedantic I’m just honestly not sure what you wanted me to conclude.

Its probably Antifa isn't it? It's hardly like the KKK or something. Antifa acting in cells leaving piles of bricks in their usual hotspots. most likely.

I couldn't think of one other reasonable culprit.

Clarence Boddiker · 02-06-2020 10:44pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1267695806775164929

nullzero · 02-06-2020 10:44pm

Overheal wrote: »

What I got from your post was doomsday predictions about people dying because of businesses being looted.

So where was I wrong?

What you got from my post was people dying?

Show where I said anything of the sort please.

CinemaGuy45 · 02-06-2020 10:46pm

Poverty kills people riots and looting will cause extra jobs losses.

Cupatae · 02-06-2020 10:46pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

You were so close to going on an 'all lives matter' rant that you clearly really want to do...

Well they do, to anyone with some bit of balance and a brain ,

Knuckle draggers follow the narrative of the big bad white man keeping the black man down, you don't see white people burning the place down when a black cop kills a white person, doesn't have the same buzz for the trend followers and bandwagoners

George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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