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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    garrettod wrote: »
    Why keep RTE2, and all of the other radio channels?

    Why not sell them, invest the money raised from the sale, into the long term future of the smaller remaining RTE network and TG4? That done, reduce the licence fee appropriately.

    all of the radio channels bar 2fm provide ps only content, and there wouldn't be anything to actually sell really bar perhapse the transmission networks, but even then there wouldn't be anything new offered that isn't already offered by existing local/regional and the 2 private national radio stations, so they may not get very much for them, and even then it would make more sense to rent them out then completely sell them off for short termism.
    either way, there wouldn't be enough to allow for a license reduction in all likely hood i would expect.
    Kivaro wrote: »
    A prime example of RTE's hypocrisy.
    They preach from their gilded platform (paid for by us) on how we need to do more. It was only a day or two ago that one of their well paid mouthpieces was chastising us for not taking in economic migrants from the Turkish/Greek border ................. during a historical pandemic. We need to realise that there are people alive in Ireland now who are related to us or are people that we know who will die from this virus.

    Many just do not trust RTE anymore when you hear them propagating their liberal agenda.
    RTE should be stripped down to a core function of being a national IMPARTIAL broadcaster. All other functions, which are extremely expensive to fund, should be abolished.

    it is already an impartial broadcaster.
    there is no liberal agenda, but a reality agenda, if you want a broadcaster that just propagates your views then go to youtube, rte is never going to be a broadcaster befitting of your views only.
    if people don't trust rte that is their issue, anyone sensible should be using multiple sources for their news anyway, regardless of how impartial a broadcaster is .
    abolishing the ntertainment fluff makes sense, anything else, children's programming, any sport coverage it has which should be increased, should stay.
    it's actually the real expensive stuff that rte needs to cover.
    Idbatterim wrote: »
    when you have a few hundred thousand that will lose there jobs over the course of 2-3 weeks, how do you justify the likes of the RTE farce? there needs to be more pay cuts, in solidarity with the many, who have taken a 100% pay cut!

    you very easily justify it, if rte went tomorrow those who may lose or who even have lost their jobs wouldn't get any more money from the government that they may get, if any.
    it's not the job of rte or any other staff to take pay cuts in solidarity with anyone.
    people continuing to do their jobs throughout this time period remain entitled to be paid for their work.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    when you have a few hundred thousand that will lose there jobs over the course of 2-3 weeks, how do you justify the likes of the RTE farce? there needs to be more pay cuts, in solidarity with the many, who have taken a 100% pay cut!
    I think the TV licence fee will be the last thing people are going to pay now.
    So we will have to see what might come.
    Dee will have to cull some .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    bigroad wrote: »
    I think the TV licence fee will be the last thing people are going to pay now.
    So we will have to see what might come.
    Dee will have to cull some .

    Can't imagine TV License Inspectors calling to our doors now.
    I could invite him in and offer some of my Lemsip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    it's not the job of rte or any other staff to take pay cuts in solidarity with anyone.
    That's the community spirit EOTR, that's the spirit.
    We will definitely overcome adversity and the challenging times ahead with that mindset.

    (Wonder how many ventilators the State could purchase with the salaries of Ryan Tubridy and Joe Duffy?
    Wonder how many lives could be saved by those two salaries alone?).
    Astounding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    all of the radio channels bar 2fm provide ps only content, and there wouldn't be anything to actually sell really bar perhapse the transmission networks, but even then there wouldn't be anything new offered that isn't already offered by existing local/regional and the 2 private national radio stations, so they may not get very much for them, and even then it would make more sense to rent them out then completely sell them off for short termism.
    either way, there wouldn't be enough to allow for a license reduction in all likely hood i would expect.



    it is already an impartial broadcaster.
    there is no liberal agenda, but a reality agenda, if you want a broadcaster that just propagates your views then go to youtube, rte is never going to be a broadcaster befitting of your views only.
    if people don't trust rte that is their issue, anyone sensible should be using multiple sources for their news anyway, regardless of how impartial a broadcaster is .
    abolishing the ntertainment fluff makes sense, anything else, children's programming, any sport coverage it has which should be increased, should stay.
    it's actually the real expensive stuff that rte needs to cover.



    you very easily justify it, if rte went tomorrow those who may lose or who even have lost their jobs wouldn't get any more money from the government that they may get, if any.
    it's not the job of rte or any other staff to take pay cuts in solidarity with anyone.
    people continuing to do their jobs throughout this time period remain entitled to be paid for their work.

    Well Lottie Ryan just got a raise, or more accurately an increase in her fees......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Reeling in the years on St Patricks day.

    Is that really the best they can do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Well Lottie Ryan just got a raise, or more accurately an increase in her fees......


    Where you see that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Where you see that?

    She is going to be on every RTE TV and Radio Show imaginable for the next while as they attempt to push her onto us/milk her “win” at the weekend. Her fees will go up as she now has increased her profile etc and the frequency will increase exponentially.

    This is how TV and Radio work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭jelutong


    I caught (as in Coronavirus so to speak) a bit of yesterday’s Ray Darcys programme presented by Brenda Donohoe. No words of mine could begin to describe how bad it was.
    Lotie and Jerry were mentioned. Nauseating stuff.
    When Sean o Rourke and Ronan Collins retire Rte 1 will be a wasteland from 9 am to 4.30.pm,apart from The News at one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    She is going to be on every RTE TV and Radio Show imaginable for the next while as they attempt to push her onto us/milk her “win” at the weekend. Her fees will go up as she now has increased her profile etc and the frequency will increase exponentially.

    This is how TV and Radio work.

    I know that’s how it works, I don’t watch or read any of that s**t so no idea about that

    Problem i see is that she is not popular, so stick her on whatever they want and nobody will watch her

    She has been on 2fm how long now and still can’t hold down a show, trying to sound like a teenager while been closer to 40 doesn’t really work.

    She should be and all of them should be based on what advertisement revenue they can pull in...I think poor old Lottie would be better on the dole in that case


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Reeling in the years on St Patricks day.

    Is that really the best they can do?

    I know what you mean.

    I'm usually the first to reach for the remote control when yet another re-run of RITY comes on.

    But this evening with the virus crisis and all it seemed somehow comforting.

    The lads in suits singing, the girls in hot pants. It harked back to an age of innocence.

    I know I need help...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    She is going to be on every RTE TV and Radio Show imaginable for the next while as they attempt to push her onto us/milk her “win” at the weekend. Her fees will go up as she now has increased her profile etc and the frequency will increase exponentially.

    This is how TV and Radio work.

    Already began with a puff piece in the rte guide the week before the intended semi final and public voting on dancing with the stars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Reeling in the years on St Patricks day.

    Is that really the best they can do?

    Which decade/ year? Went outside for some fresh air (been inddors most of the last few days, and I'm in a rural area) so needed to build up my immune system.

    But yeah... most of everything was cancelled, so expect TV to get worse.
    bigroad wrote: »
    I think the TV licence fee will be the last thing people are going to pay now.
    So we will have to see what might come.
    Dee will have to cull some .

    Oh you'd be surprised- if RTE can drain blood from a stone, they'll go after their TV licence fee.
    They'll happily scare the living s**t out of people and then come after the little guy

    As for the culling... it'll be all the people behind the scenes. Folks in front of the camera won't be cut. Cos sadly... they're seen as the 'talent'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    PieOhMy wrote: »
    Already began with a puff piece in the rte guide the week before the intended semi final and public voting on dancing with the stars.

    Just a coincidence of course......:rolleyes:

    I knew the fix was in when Jennifer Zamparelli said "up next, Lottie the hottie". I'll get banned if I elaborate.


  • Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Can't imagine TV License Inspectors calling to our doors now.
    I could invite him in and offer some of my Lemsip.

    Im actually praying a TV licence inspector calls. He'll get an earful and I'll let off some steam built up from 6 days stuck at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Just a coincidence of course......:rolleyes:

    I knew the fix was in when Jennifer Zamparelli said "up next, Lottie the hottie". I'll get banned if I elaborate.

    It's grand-we can all see she looks just like her dad.

    For Gerry, that would be a wonderful weight off his shoulders... wouldn't have to worry about her dating anyone, for one thing. :p

    I imagine RTE will probably put her onto some shows they can dump on the RTE player. (As they've done quite a bit).

    Either that, or her and her husband will do the 'expecting a child, write ALL the articles about me, now' thing. Maybe wrangle a show out of that.
    Remember when the 'biggest' star (in quotes, because nobody became a star, really) of The Voice of Ireland was the pregnant traveller?
    She managed to get a TV show out of that. She was already married, it was just following 'her life' and becoming a new mother.

    Because nobody in history has ever had a child... nope, never.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus



    As for the culling... it'll be all the people behind the scenes. Folks in front of the camera won't be cut. Cos sadly... they're seen as the 'talent'.

    Like the poor lads moving furniture around sets for 100 grand a year? My heart bleeds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    My Tv licence of €160 is due for renewal at the end of March.

    After a high level meeting this afternoon between the Dept of Finance and the CEO of all Banks based in Ireland, looks like mortgage holders can avail of a 3 month break which I will apply for also.

    I have no intention of paying the TV licence this year, they can go and fook themselves, if they send out the inspector lad, I wont be opening my front door.

    The courts are going to be locked down also, so little chance of being brought to court for non payment either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,557 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    kravmaga wrote: »
    My Tv licence of €160 is due for renewal at the end of March.

    After a high level meeting this afternoon between the Dept of Finance and the CEO of all Banks based in Ireland, looks like mortgage holders can avail of a 3 month break which I will apply for also.

    I have no intention of paying the TV licence this year, they can go and fook themselves, if they send out the inspector lad, I wont be opening my front door.

    The courts are going to be locked down also, so little chance of being brought to court for non payment either.

    Where did you hear about that meeting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I heard today that the BBC has suspended filming for Eastenders, Doctors, Holby City & Casualty due to Covid-19.

    I have no clue what RTÉ One will do in that case when Eastenders is only showing 2 episodes a week with their broadcasts on BBC One.

    The schedule for Doctors before Telly Bingo & the One O'Clock News are probably OK because they are usually old repeats.

    Re: Neighbours being shown on RTÉ2

    Production on the show has been halted for a week with immediate effect.

    A worker has contracted the Coronavirus after coming into contact with someone who had it.
    Meanwhile, Australian TV soap Neighbours has announced it will not film this week as a precaution, after reports suggested a person working on the show had come into contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19.

    The show's parent companies, Network Ten and Fremantle, have opted to take a break until Monday in order to adapt their filming schedules to minimise the impact of the outbreak.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51943592


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,101 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Im actually praying a TV licence inspector calls. He'll get an earful and I'll let off some steam built up from 6 days stuck at home.

    Maybe cough in his face at the culmination of your rant:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Im actually praying a TV licence inspector calls. He'll get an earful and I'll let off some steam built up from 6 days stuck at home.

    Why take it out on someone doing their job write/email RTÉ pick up the phone and give them an ear full not someone who works for An Post


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Elmo wrote: »
    Why take it out on someone doing their job write/email RTÉ pick up the phone and give them an ear full not someone who works for An Post

    Don’t worry, huge difference to what people will say on a forum v in person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Don’t worry, huge difference to what people will say on a forum v in person

    Now I am worried they won’t give an ear full to RTÉ :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Elmo wrote: »
    Now I am worried they won’t give an ear full to RTÉ :(

    Throwing abuse to some poor randomer will hardly change rte from top to bottom.....

    Better off going into field and giving out to a tree, would have the same affect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Throwing abuse to some poor randomer will hardly change rte from top to bottom.....

    Better off going into field and giving out to a tree, would have the same affect

    That’s why I suggest they go straight to RTÉ!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Elmo wrote: »
    That’s why I suggest they go straight to RTÉ!

    Not sure about going to RTÉ either

    Onky the government taking a stand will change them, as far as RTÉ are concerned they are doing a great job and Lottie Ryan is excellent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Hi,

    My comments, in response to various posts above :

    * TV Broadcast licences are worth money, so selling the likes of RTE2 would raise decent cash. To a lesser extent, radio licences are also valuable. Have a look at what was paid for radio and TV channels with national broadcast licences previously, just search for things like sale of FM104, TodayFM etc.

    * If we sell some of the radio stations and RTE2, some of the staff go too - either as part of the deal, or get made redundant (eh, on "normal" redundancy terms, not extra generous RTE golden handshakes)

    * A smaller RTE is easier to manage, and cheaper to run, in terms of a smaller staff.

    * I see TG4 as more of a public service broadcaster, then RTE2, given its offering programming in the Irish language.

    * I agree that we need a public service broadcaster, to provide decent local news, current affairs etc. I'm happy to pay something each year for this - but I'm not happy to pay for it, when I'm also being forced to pay for RTE's significant number of overpaid staff / contractors. We don't need to pay some plank close to €500k pa to host a chat show. That's just insane.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Elmo wrote: »
    That’s why I suggest they go straight to RTÉ!

    I agree with you, we all need to speak up - not in an aggressive or nasty manner, but to be very clear about what we want from OUR publicly owned state broadcaster...

    I suggest that we also email the Minister for Communications, insisting that they act in our national interests and take charge of RTE, to whip it into shape. No harm copying your FF / SF TDs also, given Richard Bruton is the outgoing Minister and may not get the gig again, when we finally get a new government.

    Here are the contact details, so everyone can start emailing :

    https://about.rte.ie/contact/contact-details/

    https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/about-us/contact-us/Pages/Minister's-Office.aspx

    Thanks,

    G.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    garrettod wrote: »
    I agree with you, we all need to speak up - not in an aggressive or nasty manner, but to be very clear about what we want from OUR publicly owned state broadcaster...

    I suggest that we also email the Minister for Communications, insisting that they act in our national interests and take charge of RTE, to whip it into shape. No harm copying your FF / SF TDs also, given Richard Bruton is the outgoing Minister and may not get the gig again, when we finally get a new government.

    Here are the contact details, so everyone can start emailing :

    https://about.rte.ie/contact/contact-details/

    https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/about-us/contact-us/Pages/Minister's-Office.aspx

    Also the BAI. If the commission set up by the government goes ahead at the end of the year then put in a submission.

    Even if the commission doesn’t agree with your view ask the BAI, RTÉ, Dept and government to act on its conclusions and to make real decisions on those conclusions. Otherwise it’s a complete waste of time.


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