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Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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    #4442
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    You do understand that they can negotiate a new deal yeah? You do understand that other non EU countries have negotiated deals yeah?

    They haven’t been very successful at negotiating so far.

    What makes you think they can up their game?


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    #4443
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    You do understand that deals are not done overnight, and will probably come with the UK conceding some of its new found "independence" for a deal.

    Because of course, the UK needs the EU far more that the opposite.


    Not true. Plenty of countries smaller and larger than the UK survive without being in the EU


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    #4444
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    I am in a building for about 30 minutes daily that has Sky News on a telly mounted on the wall.

    The death of that african dictator proved to be a welcome break for the day.


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    #4445
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    You do understand that they can negotiate a new deal yeah? You do understand that other non EU countries have negotiated deals yeah?
    Yeah but they take time, quite a bit in some cases and involve good faith. I think the general point is that they will almost instantly exit a whole lot of EU programmes or EU-agreed external deals.


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    #4446
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    PostWoke wrote: »
    I am in a building for about 30 minutes daily that has Sky News on a telly mounted on the wall.

    The death of that african dictator proved to be a welcome break for the day.
    I heard on The Guardian Politics podcast comments that some people are afraid to watch the news anymore because it will only talk about Brexit!


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    #4447
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I heard on The Guardian Politics podcast comments that some people are afraid to watch the news anymore because it will only talk about Brexit!

    https://twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1169640443501527040?s=09

    Funny stuff


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    #4448
    Get Real
    Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭Get Real


    biko wrote: »
    More Scots wanted to remain in UK, than UK people remain in EU

    No they didn't. 2millon Scots voted to remain in UK. 16 million UK voters wanted to remain in EU. How did more Scots vote to remain in UK?

    Besides, as already said, alot of Scots voted on the basis that they'd still be in the EU. And the whole "Better together" campaign.

    Ironically, "Better together" didn't seem to apply to the Brexit vote. And now as a result, (as has been pointed out) Brexit has increased the risk of the UK breaking up. Scots may vote for independence as the goalposts have been moved.

    Those that wanted Brexit, may have contributed to the breakup of the very Union they cherish.


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    #4449
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I heard on The Guardian Politics podcast comments that some people are afraid to watch the news anymore because it will only talk about Brexit!

    I genuinely feel these tellies have had at least some impact on my mental health. People saying exactly the same stressful things for months with no changes except for the gob****e saying them. All I can think about is the 50,000 projected lost jobs because of Brexit and this recession economists keep threatening because the U.S. Bond's yield curve has inverted.


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    #4450
    Balanadan
    Site Banned Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Balanadan


    Balanadan wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1169664123745054727

    :pac:

    Still cracking up at this. The delivery is perfect :D


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    #4451
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Allinall wrote: »
    They haven’t been very successful at negotiating so far.

    What makes you think they can up their game?


    Well Teresa May was terrible, giving the EU everything they wanted. "Hey can we have 39 billion?" Yeah OK!!


    Boris has had his best bargaining chip taken away from him. He wanted a deal. People in this forum don't understand negotiation at all


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    #4452
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    PostWoke wrote: »
    I am in a building for about 30 minutes daily that has Sky News on a telly mounted on the wall.

    The death of that african dictator proved to be a welcome break for the day.


    Id rather stick rusty nails in my eyes than watch Sky "News"


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    #4453
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Boris has had his best bargaining chip taken away from him. He wanted a deal. People in this forum don't understand negotiation at all

    "I will blow my own brains out unless you give me what I want" is not smart negotiating.


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    #4454
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Id rather stick rusty nails in my eyes than watch Sky "News"

    This ****e, royal baby ****e, on the odd occasion something actually relevant. The news equivalent of a gossip mag. So dumbed down and repetitive too.


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    #4455
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Well Teresa May was terrible, giving the EU everything they wanted. "Hey can we have 39 billion?" Yeah OK!!


    Boris has had his best bargaining chip taken away from him. He wanted a deal. People in this forum don't understand negotiation at all

    u do understand that they can negotiate a new deal yeah? You do understand that other non EU countries have negotiated deals yeah?

    That was your statement.

    Point 1. England are not a non EU country.

    Point 2. England have shown zero ability to negotiate.


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    #4456
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    You do understand that they can negotiate a new deal yeah? You do understand that other non EU countries have negotiated deals yeah?

    Lol, it's not like sauntering in to PC World and negotiating a price match with Harvey Norman across the retail park you know.


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    #4457
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Get Real wrote: »
    No they didn't. 2millon Scots voted to remain in UK. 16 million UK voters wanted to remain in EU. How did more Scots vote to remain in UK?
    Well, you cannot count in absolute numbers as Scots are in the UK and counted thus.
    It has to be percentage.

    55% of Scots wants to be part of UK
    48% of UK wants wants to be part of EU.

    The Scottish "leavers" took the vote seriously and accepted the result as democracy in action.
    The UK "remainers" are protesting since the result and have not accepted democracy in action.


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    #4458
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    It is being blown out of proportion. Do you know anything about her case? How much of the documentation have you read? Just the tiny portion of it that is flashed on the screen for less than a second? She did not show enough evidence therefore the application was rejected. She has until the end of 2020 to fill the form out properly, it is FAKE NEWS. You accuse me of not doing my homework yet you have done none yourself.

    She has been in the UK for over 50 years, she is not going to be kicked out, it is blatant scaremongering.




    Without even reading that post, I am sure it is a balanced and fair view into your earlier comments, backed up with evidence from your own research.


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    #4459
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Well Teresa May was terrible, giving the EU everything they wanted. "Hey can we have 39 billion?" Yeah OK!!


    Boris has had his best bargaining chip taken away from him. He wanted a deal. People in this forum don't understand negotiation at all

    More idiocy.

    The €39bn was money Britain already owed. Like the golf club analogy earlier. They're cancelling their sub, but haven't paid their fees. And sooner or later, they will pay it.

    Boris didn't have any chips, because he ISN'T NEGOTIATING. THERE ARE NO NEGOTIATIONS.

    The only person here who doesn't understand negotiation is you.


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    #4460
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Allinall wrote: »
    They haven’t been very successful at negotiating so far.

    What makes you think they can up their game?


    Well Teresa May was terrible, giving the EU everything they wanted. "Hey can we have 39 billion?" Yeah OK!!


    Boris has had his best bargaining chip taken away from him. He wanted a deal. People in this forum don't understand negotiation at all
    Doris is finished the weakest pm in history, nige is the man


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    #4461
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Id rather stick rusty nails in my eyes than watch Sky "News"

    This ****e, royal baby ****e, on the odd occasion something actually relevant. The news equivalent of a gossip mag. So dumbed down and repetitive too.
    Dumbed down, it's for a t british audiance


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    #4462
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    biko wrote: »
    The UK "remainers" are protesting since the result and have not accepted democracy in action.
    More than 67% of UK voters voted to remain in 1975. It's almost like people can change their mind as a situation evolves.


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    #4463
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    mikhail wrote: »
    More than 67% of UK voters voted to remain in 1975. It's almost like people can change their mind as a situation evolves.
    Indeed, and 67% has now decreased to 48%.
    The problem is people not respecting democratic process.


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    #4464
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    The Irish government will soon be gettin 15% on everything coming from the UK..............that’s a lot of dosh ............Happy Days indeed.........


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    #4465
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    Indeed, and 67% has now decreased to 48%.
    The problem is people not respecting democratic process.






    What version of Brexit did the leavers vote for?


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    #4466
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What version of Brexit did the leavers vote for?
    The one where they actually get to leave.


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    #4467
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    biko wrote: »
    Indeed, and 67% has now decreased to 48%.
    The problem is people not respecting democratic process.
    It increased back to 51% as early as a year and a half ago. The political response to that from leavers has been to stick their fingers in their ears and loudly shout "wibble" until people stop asking them hard questions.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2018/jan/26/guardian-icm-brexit-poll-full-results


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    #4468
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    biko wrote: »
    The problem is people not respecting democratic process.

    Or lying to the voter base about what you can provide if they vote your way, and taking advantage of people who are susceptible to scare mongering.


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    #4469
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    The one where they actually get to leave.




    What version is that?
    What was on the ballot paper?


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    #4470
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    mikhail wrote: »
    It increased back to 51% as early as a year and a half ago.
    That is not how voting works. You had your opportunity.


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    #4471
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Allinall wrote: »
    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    You do understand that they can negotiate a new deal yeah? You do understand that other non EU countries have negotiated deals yeah?

    They haven’t been very successful at negotiating so far.

    What makes you think they can up their game?
    Doris thinks the gun he uses is pointed to his foot but everyone can see it's pointed to his head
    When they ask him not to shoot he thinks its more regulations from Brussels


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