James McLean abuse

Sin City · 01-05-2019 6:02pm #1

If this was a black player the PM would be up in arms

Some low life sent him a birthday card with the below written on it

https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/1123559068273082368

https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/1123559068273082368/photo/1

You are a two faced hypocritical bastard. You don't like this country and we don't like you. It's about time these gutless English managers stood up to you and tell you to get back to ****house called Derry. So you are ****ing Irish international, any body can play for ****ing Ireland. They give caps out in cornflake packets and you have to drink that muck called Guinness that qualifys [sic] you.

"They should have put the Waffen SS in Ireland. They would have used scorched earth tactics not like British politicians licking IRA arses. The ****ing Irish will do anything for poxy Ireland, except live in that ****hole. The Irish are a race of inbred, subhuman parasites breed like maggots. Bloody Sunday. Blood good laugh. 13 nil to us. Ha ha ha ha. Should have been 13,000 of you sub human bastards."

EmmetSpiceland · 01-05-2019 6:03pm

At least he didn’t call it “Londonderry”.

omerin · 01-05-2019 6:03pm

he find some consolidation in the fact that they referred to it as Derry

Sin City · 01-05-2019 6:03pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

At least he didn’t call it “Londonderry”.

Too big a word for him

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-05-2019 6:05pm

No doubt we'll have the usuals rock up soon to say it's all his own fault and how great Britain is.

01-05-2019 6:07pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

No doubt we'll have the usuals rock up soon to say it's all his own fault and how great Britain is.

I would go berserker if I had to justify that vicious diatribe.

gimli2112 · 01-05-2019 6:09pm

It's strange that I think the odd thing about this was someone wrote him a letter rather than posting it online

Gimme A Pound · 01-05-2019 6:15pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

No doubt we'll have the usuals rock up soon to say it's all his own fault and how great Britain is.

Oh god yes - the self loathing is extraordinary.

Deleted User wrote: »

I would go berserker if I had to justify that vicious diatribe.

Yeah I'd be "Havana" stroke...

gimli2112 wrote: »

It's strange that I think the odd thing about this was someone wrote him a letter rather than posting it online

Because the cowardly piece of sh1t was afraid it would be traced online.

Beechwoodspark · 01-05-2019 6:22pm

If this was directed at an ethnic minority player we would see

The British royals condemn it
The British PM and her cabinet and other prominent politicians condemn it
Huge police operation to find and charge the culprit
All the authorities of British football condemn it
Various well known “legends” of the game condemn it
Various minutes silence/arm bands etc gimmicks before every prem league match next week
More gestures of solidarity at the next international matches
Victim and his family given huge support for rest of their lives

But because it’s anti Irish abuse there’ll be fcuk all except awkward silence all round. Shameful

begbysback · 01-05-2019 6:25pm

There was no need for the swearing, though the piece about cornflakes & Guinness is pretty accurate.

Farawayhome · 01-05-2019 6:27pm

Britain appears to have huge issues with racism and xenophobia!

KungPao · 01-05-2019 6:30pm

Leprechauns, shamrocks, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons, people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacked drives in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Guinness.

lawred2 · 01-05-2019 6:30pm

Imagine being the person who sent that. Must be one miserable bitter loser. I'd like to think I'd kill myself if I had that much hate in me. But I probably wouldn't be sufficiently self aware to know that it would be best all round to just kill myself.

Sin City · 01-05-2019 6:38pm

You can bet if we sent something similar to Declan Rice there would be punishment lol

Or any black football player for that matter

Tikki Wang Wang · 01-05-2019 6:40pm

James has abused himself with those awful tattoos. What was he thinking??

01-05-2019 6:43pm

KungPao wrote: »

Leprechauns, shamrocks, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons, people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacked drives in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Guinness.

North Dublin forum's thataway==>

corner of hells · 01-05-2019 6:55pm

Sin City wrote: »

If this was a black player the PM would be up in arms

Some low life sent him a birthday card with the below written on

https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/status/1123559068273082368/photo/1

OP , is the thread title meant to say James McClean or James McLean?
It's just my sense of outrage doesn't know what to do.

mad muffin · 01-05-2019 6:59pm

Jussie Smollett comes to mind… don’t know why I feel that way *shrugs*

Junkyard Tom · 01-05-2019 7:06pm

James McClean tends to illicit incredible levels of venom from Rule Britannia and rabid-unionist types.

01-05-2019 7:18pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Imagine being the person who sent that. Must be one miserable bitter loser. I'd like to think I'd kill myself if I had that much hate in me. But I probably wouldn't be sufficiently self aware to know that it would be best all round to just kill myself.

Sending death threats through the mail is a very serious offense in the uk. It will be interesting to find out what the police do about it.

Your Face · 01-05-2019 7:27pm

Anti-Irish racism doesn't matter, it's not fashionable enough.

lawred2 · 01-05-2019 7:40pm

Aegir wrote: »

Sending death threats through the mail is a very serious offense in the uk. It will be interesting to find out what the police do about it.

Most likely nothing. He's just an uppity Mick.

01-05-2019 7:43pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Most likely nothing. He's just an uppity Mick.

That’s bollocks.

If he reports it to them, then they are obliged to investigate.

nullzero · 01-05-2019 8:22pm

Your Face wrote: »

Anti-Irish racism doesn't matter, it's not fashionable enough.

The only acceptable form of discrimination is anti Irish discrimination, "fackin paddies".

Pissartist · 01-05-2019 8:27pm

He's not black or gay so it's ok.

Guy:Incognito · 01-05-2019 8:36pm

Sin City wrote: »

If this was a black player the PM would be up in arms

Black players are still getting abused all the time.

That stuff is well down the list relatively speaking. Sure most of it, bar a bit of name calling , is referencing stuff thats nothing to do with him personally and he wasnt born for.

His best bet is to do what hes done, highlight that some idiot has sent it to him, and chuck it in the bin. Id have taken the piss out of the author for going to the bother of actually handwriting it.

Pac1Man · 01-05-2019 8:45pm

And not even a scratch card.

Guy:Incognito · 01-05-2019 8:46pm

Pac1Man wrote: »

And not even a scratch card.

Should have sent a pre scratched one with nothing on it, just to rub it in

Or worse, donated a fiver in his name to charity. Only proper ***** do that.

steddyeddy · 01-05-2019 8:47pm

I'm guessing this guy also says "Brexit means Brexit".

NIMAN · 01-05-2019 8:48pm

No mention of it on English media yet?

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-05-2019 8:52pm

NIMAN wrote: »

No mention of it on English media yet?

They see someone abusing McClean the same as someone standing on an insect so it'll barely register. They also can't risk upsetting their knuckle dragging customers.

01-05-2019 8:55pm

James McClean, I presume.

Not surprised at all. And I don't think anybody who remembers the Harryville Church stuff outside Ballymena where Irish Catholics endured abuse from loyalist mobs for 20 months (Sept. 1996 - May 1998) every Saturday night as they walked to mass (the "protest" recommenced once again in April 1999). Spitting on them, throwing urine on them, burning down the church - in Ireland, in a part of the UK, in the late 1990s (some of you might remember they moved on to doing similar to primary school children in Belfast in 2001). For making a stand against it at the time, the UUP mayor of Ballymena James Curry put himself in the category of the most courageous people of the Troubles. David Ervine RIP of the PUP, too, deserves enormous respect for his courage in opposing it. Nevertheless, the whole travesty was practically ignored over in Britain. How long would such ineffably vile and disgusting treatment of people attending religious services have been tolerated outside a synagogue, or even a mosque, in England? And that answer reveals very much about an underlying "acceptability" regarding the stuff McClean gets.

01-05-2019 8:56pm

NIMAN wrote: »

No mention of it on English media yet?

None at all, other than skysports, The Sun, daily Mail, talksport, Stoke sentinel......

steddyeddy · 01-05-2019 9:00pm

English nationalism is bizarre. For a nation that spent most of its history colonising and inflicting suffering on others they sure have a victimised view of themselves. Amazingly at various times they seem to see themselves as being victim to the Irish, Indians or African. A little bit of historical education might do them the world of good.

SCOOP 64 · 01-05-2019 9:10pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

English nationalism is bizarre. For a nation that spent most of its history colonising and inflicting suffering on others they sure have a victimised view of themselves. Amazingly at various times they seem to see themselves as being victim to the Irish, Indians or African. A little bit of historical education might do them the world of good.

This is from one mad English bloke(presuming) hes not representing a nation.

steddyeddy · 01-05-2019 9:12pm

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

This is from one mad English bloke(presuming) hes not representing a nation.

I was talking about English nationalism. Brexit, Ukip ect ect.

NIMAN · 01-05-2019 9:13pm

Aegir wrote: »

None at all, other than skysports, The Sun, daily Mail, talksport, Stoke sentinel......

Ah, I see.
I don't do trash media, so that rules most of them out.

I was hoping to see something on the BBC.

01-05-2019 9:13pm

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

This is from one mad English bloke(presuming) hes not representing a nation.

Ssshhh, this is the perfect excuse for certain posters to complain about anti Irish bigotry by showing their anti English bigotry.

Don’t spoil their party.

NasserShammaz · 01-05-2019 9:15pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

At least he didn’t call it “Londonderry”.

Probably hates London too all the southern soft ies and immigents

Church on Tuesday · 01-05-2019 9:23pm

"and you have to drink that muck called Guinness that qualifys"

I'd rather drink that then that piss Stella that a lot of your fellow country men are so mad about.

steddyeddy · 01-05-2019 9:27pm

Aegir wrote: »

Ssshhh, this is the perfect excuse for certain posters to complain about anti Irish bigotry by showing their anti English bigotry.

Don’t spoil their party.

Disliking English nationalism does not equal disliking English people. You often argue against Irish nationalism. Do you therefore hate the Irish?

klaaaz · 01-05-2019 9:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

James McClean, I presume.

Not surprised at all. And I don't think anybody who remembers the Harryville Church stuff outside Ballymena where Irish Catholics endured abuse from loyalist mobs for 20 months (Sept. 1996 - May 1998) every Saturday night as they walked to mass (the "protest" recommenced once again in April 1999). Spitting on them, throwing urine on them, burning down the church - in Ireland, in a part of the UK, in the late 1990s (some of you might remember they moved on to doing similar to primary school children in Belfast in 2001). For making a stand against it at the time, the UUP mayor of Ballymena James Curry put himself in the category of the most courageous people of the Troubles. David Ervine RIP of the PUP, too, deserves enormous respect for his courage in opposing it. Nevertheless, the whole travesty was practically ignored over in Britain. How long would such ineffably vile and disgusting treatment of people attending religious services have been tolerated outside a synagogue, or even a mosque, in England? And that answer reveals very much about an underlying "acceptability" regarding the stuff McClean gets.

I remember all that too. It actually took the British media(thanks to ITN) for the first time ever in 2001(in around 400 years!) to condemn and plaster all over their headlines of the hatred from loyalists for the schoolgoing kids, the loyalists themselves were in shock from the backlash in Britain, a serious own goal for loyalism. Unfortunately I don't think there has been a backlash ever since though the DUP extremists might provoke one over Brexit.
So yes, the British media bar that one case don't care about what happens to Irish people.

01-05-2019 9:38pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Disliking English nationalism does not equal disliking English people. You often argue against Irish nationalism. Do you therefore hate the Irish?

Only the ones that are bigoted *****.

Gimme A Pound · 01-05-2019 9:51pm

I don't think there is support for anti Irish sentiment over there generally speaking. Millions of Irish live there. Despite claims to the contrary, England is actually a very inclusive society. As said, this actually did garner media coverage. Any dearth in coverage is likely more to do with him being white than Irish.

Hardline loyalists bother me way more, and Irish people themselves are the worst for putting down Irish people from what I see. "The worst" because of the added arrogance and lack of self awareness.

steddyeddy · 02-05-2019 8:40am

Aegir wrote: »

Only the ones that are bigoted *****.

I'll ask again. I dislike English nationalism, you dislike Irish nationalism. Based on this you claim I am anti-English. if this were true you're anti-Irish as well as the majority of loyalist and unionist posters on this site. Does not liking nationalism of a particular flavour mean you don't like the nationality?

sbsquarepants · 02-05-2019 8:51am

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

At least he didn’t call it “Londonderry”.

Or worse still Derrylondonderry:eek:

Kilboor · 02-05-2019 8:55am

Tikki Wang Wang wrote: »

James has abused himself with those awful tattoos. What was he thinking??

Thanks for your input there Karen.

02-05-2019 8:57am

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'll ask again. I dislike English nationalism, you dislike Irish nationalism. Based on this you claim I am anti-English. if this were true you're anti-Irish as well as the majority of loyalist and unionist posters on this site. Does not liking nationalism of a particular flavour mean you don't like the nationality?

The difference is though Eddy, I don’t dislike Irish nationalism. Unfortunately, like nationalism everywhere, the often manifests itself into bigotry. That is what I despise.

cloudatlas · 02-05-2019 9:18am

There are morons everywhere. I don't agree with what he did though allowing NI youth team to spend money on him and to train him up when he always knew he wanted to play for the republic, a bit shady.

sydthebeat · 02-05-2019 9:24am

cloudatlas wrote: »

There are morons everywhere. I don't agree with what he did though allowing NI youth team to spend money on him and to train him up when he always knew he wanted to play for the republic, a bit shady.

Football player makes adult decision shocker....

steddyeddy · 02-05-2019 9:30am

cloudatlas wrote: »

There are morons everywhere. I don't agree with what he did though allowing NI youth team to spend money on him and to train him up when he always knew he wanted to play for the republic, a bit shady.

To be fair the Good Friday agreement means that to some people anything Northern Irish can either Irish or British. That's the unfortunate reality of the place. It's not a big leap to go to the republic from Northern Ireland.

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