Electric Picnic 2018 Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales [Part 1]

Mike Guide 69 · 15-03-2018 3:46pm

BananaR wrote: »

Experience has taught me otherwise - if you cant even find minimum 5-6 acts you really WANT to see on 1st announcement, you're at nothing holding out for later ones. I'll Def be cutting my losses on this one. I find it amazing that people paying full whack for these tickets would think that's a decent calibre line-up for their money. Someone mentioned rock Werchter - where LCD don't even make it onto the 1st tier of lineup on day they play. It's a smaller festival site than EP. Too much filler.

Rock Werchter is a bigger festival than EP and covers roughly 4 days worth of music, you're right in the sense where the likes of LCD would not even be high up on that list. The types of acts they have had over the years is amazing,likes of Pearl Jam, Metallica,Radiohead, Paul McCartney, Prodigy comes to mind. That is down to the hard bucks that promoters are willing to pay and the sad fact is, in this country, no promoter will pay out for such a lineup/type of festival.

IMO I would love to see a Rock Werchter or NOS type festival in this country but it aint going to happen .......

Arne_Saknussem · 15-03-2018 3:47pm

The people puzzled by Tribe & Duran Duran last year seem to be very giddy about this lineup.

BananaR · 15-03-2018 3:54pm

Mike Guide 69 wrote: »

That is down to the hard bucks that promoters are willing to pay and the sad fact is, in this country, no promoter will pay out for such a lineup/type of festival.

IMO I would love to see a Rock Werchter or NOS type festival in this country but it aint going to happen .......

That's exactly what I am questioning - why won't they? Surely it's the behaviour of accepting punters that drives this? I honestly think we accept less. If festivals were struggling to sell tickets do you honestly think they wouldn't try harder??
I love a festival as much as they next person but when it becomes a field day for a nation of event junkies, the only people laughing are the promoters.

Knex* · 15-03-2018 3:55pm

There's an awful lot there to like, I think. Acts that I'll certainly be going to.

Kendrick
Ben Howard
CHVRCHES
Jungle
Nina Kraviz
Mount Kimbiie
Tom Misch
Dermot Kennedy
Peggy Gou
La Femme

Have a few acts I know little about there too, so looking forward to doing some research.

It was only with the announcement last year that I discovered Kiasmos, who have since become a favourite. Hopefully similar will happen again.

BananaR · 15-03-2018 3:58pm

Mike Guide 69 wrote: »

Rock Werchter is a bigger festival than EP and covers roughly 4 days worth of music, you're right in the sense where the likes of LCD would not even be high up on that list. The types of acts they have had over the years is amazing,likes of Pearl Jam, Metallica,Radiohead, Paul McCartney, Prodigy comes to mind. That is down to the hard bucks that promoters are willing to pay and the sad fact is, in this country, no promoter will pay out for such a lineup/type of festival.

IMO I would love to see a Rock Werchter or NOS type festival in this country but it aint going to happen .......

I'm advised that RW site-wise is not any bigger than EP , with roughly 1 stage and 2-3 tents. Granted 4 days of music makes it bigger in terms of volume of acts - anyway was just using it as an example. You could use any number of other festivals as example and cone of the same conclusions I think

Knex* · 15-03-2018 3:58pm

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Ah I'm disappointed but can't say it's a crap line-up really, just not my cup of tea. Happy Chvches, Jungle, Massive Attack, Cigarettes After Sex, The Blaze, Peggy Gou and La Femme are in there and I'm sure there Will be more to come.

Kendrick Lamar is a huge booking and seems to be one of the most popular headliners they have had in recent years. Not much of an interest myself though. They are saying the three headliners have been announced on the radio so wouldn't be hoping for any bigger acts.

I think you might like Tom Misch. See your posts on these threads all the time, and I think it might be similar to some of the acts above too, although he can vary in style from track to track.

(apologies if I'm very wrong

)

The Nal · 15-03-2018 4:04pm

maximoose wrote: »

More troubling are the many comments along the lines of "cans by the tent it is"

I don't get these people.

They're probably from Longford, Westmeath or Cavan.

Sitting outside a tent in the pissing rain drinking warm beer is still a better option than being in Longford, Westmeath or Cavan for the weekend.

Paddy2012 · 15-03-2018 4:11pm

thebusher wrote: »

I realise at my age Im not the target market but that lineup for me is depressing.

What it does mean is a lot of time at Trailer Park and Salty Dog for me and Im not complaining on that front.

Anyone point me to the good guitar/indie/folky stuff from that list please and thanks.

There's not really an awful lot there at the moment but St Vincent (who you probably already know), Cigarettes After Sex (who are great but more slow tempo) and King Krule (kind of like avant garde Billy Bragg) might interest you.

maximoose · 15-03-2018 4:12pm

Paddy2012 wrote: »

Cigarettes After Sex (who are great but more slow tempo)

I quite like them, but can't imagine them being anything other than a buzzkill at a festival.

Irish_rat · 15-03-2018 4:14pm

thebusher wrote: »

Anyone point me to the good guitar/indie/folky stuff from that list please and thanks.

Guitar based bands are not in fashion. Wolf Alice are very good though.

Paddy2012 · 15-03-2018 4:15pm

maximoose wrote: »

Paddy2012 wrote: »

Cigarettes After Sex (who are great but more slow tempo)

I quite like them, but can't imagine them being anything other than a buzzkill at a festival.

Yeah I've heard mixed things about them live but I think they could be great in somewhere like Rankin Woods

Mike Guide 69 · 15-03-2018 4:26pm

BananaR wrote: »

That's exactly what I am questioning - why won't they? Surely it's the behaviour of accepting punters that drives this? I honestly think we accept less. If festivals were struggling to sell tickets do you honestly think they wouldn't try harder??
I love a festival as much as they next person but when it becomes a field day for a nation of event junkies, the only people laughing are the promoters.

Good post, I guess it comes down to a marketing and the economies of scale point of view I guess. If a promoter came along and said that a RW type of festival would be available but you would have to pay maybe €300, I could be tempted. Theres so many possibilities as to why there is'nt that type of festival available, could be logistical, touring schedules, lack of serious promotion or hard cash to cough up to organise, but there are punters out (me included)

nestegg · 15-03-2018 4:45pm

Anyone point me to the good guitar/indie/folky stuff from that list please and thanks
Lucy Dacus, Gang of Youths.

thebusher · 15-03-2018 5:04pm

Great shout on Gang of Youths. Lucy Dacus will be a grower too

declanleo · 15-03-2018 5:04pm

seandotcomm wrote: »

there's a whole lot of meh going on with that announcment

Always is for somebody

MadYaker · 15-03-2018 5:08pm

how long before tickets sell out I wonder.... very slow compared to last year.

MiniFridgeMen · 15-03-2018 5:12pm

I've already made up a playlist on Spotify and am enjoying those from the lineup that I didn't already know..I put the link a few pages back but ill post again - https://open.spotify.com/user/shogannn/playlist/2Ufcyw1xhwlVaoxX2FljGV?si=-puHrX5tQtG2z3dROfHC2A

We find ourselves here every year, when first lineup comes, everyone has a good oul moan, last year, a complete random I've never heard of "Mr.Jukes" has now become one of my favorite artists ever, I think EP has always been about discovery of new acts, with a little bit of current and a some heritage as well

I will say that over the past maybe two or three years, the lineups have been getting very Rap heavy, not that I don't like Rap, but it's starting to dominate the lineup and I feel it should try be balanced with some other Genres (2nd/3rd announcements probably gonna cover this)

PinkCamper · 15-03-2018 5:15pm

I’m actually surprised at the fb moaning. I would have thought it was a very appealing lineup to the young folk. All the negative comments must be from the not-quite-but-nearly-middle-age folk like myself.

I’m kind of middling happy. Delighted with Massive Attack, Chvrches... will pop along to see St Vincent and I have fond memories of sunset pints with George Ezra in 2015. I’m not blown away though. I guess harbouring secret hopes for Depeche Mode was always gonna cause me grief. I have literally zero interest in any of the rap / hip hop offerings. I’d like to see a heritage act or two of decent calibre added. It’s only the first announcement though

BadTurtle · 15-03-2018 5:16pm

georgiecasey wrote: »

they're right though, from a general punter viewpoint

They don't book people who started making music 2 weeks ago as headliners for some reason.

I'd say the reasons sales are slower this year are 1) Longitude have hoovered up the Leaving certs
2) Tribe and Duran Duran made people wary of buying before the lineups out.

endainoz · 15-03-2018 6:14pm

I have a bit of a softspot N.E.R.D. Their fly or die album came out when I was in secondary school and 'she wants to move' was a bit of a leaving cert anthem for us.

Saw the band themselves way back at Oxegen 2004, from what I remember they were quite good.

But disappointed with no Vampire Weekend but still think they will be added at some point, over all need to do some research as usual. But it'll fill out and will have something for everyone, it always does!!

jimmy180sx · 15-03-2018 6:15pm

Still holding out for the prodigy in 2nd announcement

maximoose · 15-03-2018 6:29pm

endainoz wrote: »

I have a bit of a softspot N.E.R.D.

Saw the band themselves way back at Oxegen 2004, from what I remember they were quite good.

Yep, I remember that day and thought they were great live. I probably haven't listened to them since though tbh should give the new album a listen I suppose.

George Ezra and the Kooks are baffling me a bit.

Easy Rod · 15-03-2018 6:33pm

endainoz wrote: »

I have a bit of a softspot N.E.R.D. Their fly or die album came out when I was in secondary school and 'she wants to move' was a bit of a leaving cert anthem for us.

Saw the band themselves way back at Oxegen 2004, from what I remember they were quite good.

But disappointed with no Vampire Weekend but still think they will be added at some point, over all need to do some research as usual. But it'll fill out and will have something for everyone, it always does!!

Unfortunately I think vw are too big to be a later addition. They’d surely be a headliner for EP.

Rigor Mortis · 15-03-2018 6:34pm

Well, I'm happy enough with that line up for starters. I do think that the sub headliners, are light and i wouldnt be surprised to see one more fairly heavy hitter added. Although, unfortunately i think we are talking more along the lines of Snow Patrol rather than Arctic Monkeys or Muse. Half a dozen acts i was excited about on announcement and already discovered 3 new jewels today.

lordgoat · 15-03-2018 6:39pm

sake. If people want to discuss FB posts take it somewhere else.

Poorside · 15-03-2018 6:40pm

Very happy with that, Massive Attack and NERD will have me at the main stage, but there’s a lot of other acts that I’ll be off to see, Wolf Alice, Chvchres, Garbage and Sigird will be getting the green highlighter, 6 acts from the first announcement is a decent return for me.
St. Vincent will probably get a look as well.

BadTurtle · 15-03-2018 6:40pm

Not sure why there's all this "it's only for the kids now" nonsense. Who exactly is that? Not Kendrick anyway, being one of if not the most critically acclaimed rapper in the world at the moment. Not NERD, who last played Ireland in 04, around the same time they last had a radio hit. Not Massive, whose act is older than 75% of festival goers now. Are they literally basing it entirely off Dua Lipa and Sigrid?

Also can't see the "there's too much hiphop" argument as anything other than lads who recognise Kendrick and NERD (who aren't even really primarily hip-hop, considering the wide variety of influences their albums take in) and nothing else on the lineup. There's still more indie and rock than there is hip-hop.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 6:41pm

Ah now.

corm500 · 15-03-2018 6:54pm

It kind of reminds me of the last year of oxegen when it went all teen friendly with the lineup . Ep have obviously decided that’s the audience they want. Good luck to them. Those of us that want a real music festival will have to look to the uk or the continent

BadTurtle · 15-03-2018 6:57pm

Salty salty salty tears.

The Floyd p · 15-03-2018 7:04pm

corm500 wrote: »

a real music festival

What does that nonsense even mean? Guitar based only? :rolleyes:

corm500 · 15-03-2018 7:05pm

BadTurtle wrote: »

Salty salty salty tears.

You are just happy that the ep has finally turned into the chart friendly pop fest you always hoped for

BadTurtle · 15-03-2018 7:05pm

The Floyd p wrote: »

What does that nonsense even mean? Guitar based only? :rolleyes:

Pretty much. Noel Gallagher, Kasabian, anything that's famous via Fifa or you can glass a geezer to.

BadTurtle · 15-03-2018 7:08pm

corm500 wrote: »

You are just happy that the ep has finally turned into the chart friendly pop fest you always hoped for

Yup, Massive Attack bring the teens in the hotpants alright.

MiniFridgeMen · 15-03-2018 7:14pm

BadTurtle wrote: »

Also can't see the "there's too much hiphop" argument as anything other than lads who recognise Kendrick and NERD (who aren't even really primarily hip-hop, considering the wide variety of influences their albums take in) and nothing else on the lineup. There's still more indie and rock than there is hip-hop.

There is also Scarlxrd,Tom Tripp,Jorja Smith, Stefflon Don, Yxng Bane and King Krule, all great artists in their own right, maybe not even so much hiphop, but within that vein, I would like to see more of a balance between acts

or maybe i'm just bitter cause there isn't as much Disco or Hard Techno as i'd prefer, still plenty of time with Casa Bacardi, Transmission and Anachronica to fix that though

corm500 · 15-03-2018 7:33pm

BadTurtle wrote: »

Pretty much. Noel Gallagher, Kasabian, anything that's famous via Fifa or you can glass a geezer to.

Nope, nope, nope and nope. You X-Factor wannabes think that’s all us oldies like. For the record I have seen Massive Attack and Nerd before, enjoyed them both, but keep it for Longitude. Most major festivals in this country are filled with dance/electronics and rap. Let the ep be diverse. Music should be formed in bedrooms and garages, not by a committee in a boardroom.

endainoz · 15-03-2018 7:35pm

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tonto123 · 15-03-2018 7:42pm

Right deep breaths .... I do not know one Kendrick lemar song so I'm not crazy bout him being a headliner... But No kids I mean none know massive attack or nerd so how are people saying its a teenage lineup. Jus because of dua lips and Kendrick?? Guys there's over 1000 acts at the picnic last year. 7 or 8 stages .. You are not forced to listen to any of the music... While dua lipa and Kendrick are playing pick one of the other 7 stages to go to.... Listen its not the line up I was hoping for either but no one forced me too buy a ticket before I knew the line up that..... Plus there will be more announcements , noel Gallagher and big acts like that weren't announced before until the 2nd or 3rd announcement... And yes I was a nerd fan back in the day had the first two albums but I totally agree they shouldn't be headlining and might not yet be, there will be loads more guitar and dance acts added

MadYaker · 15-03-2018 7:46pm

corm500 wrote: »

Nope, nope, nope and nope. You X-Factor wannabes think that’s all us oldies like. For the record I have seen Massive Attack and Nerd before, enjoyed them both, but keep it for Longitude. Most major festivals in this country are filled with dance/electronics and rap. Let the ep be diverse. Music should be formed in bedrooms and garages, not by a committee in a boardroom.

It is diverse! There’s DJs, rock bands, indie, hip hop and electronic stuff already and it’s just the first fcuking announcement. We’ve got nothing from Other Voices, Salty Dog, Trailer Park, Trenchtown, Anarchronica, Body and Soul etc which will add reggae, blues, folk, country plus more acts similar to what we’ve already got. Not to mention all the stuff in the mindfield. How much more diverse do you want???? I’ve no idea what your last sentence even means.

corm500 · 15-03-2018 7:50pm

tonto123 wrote: »

Right deep breaths .... I do not know one Kendrick lemar song so I'm not crazy bout him being a headliner... But No kids I mean none know massive attack or nerd so how are people saying its a teenage lineup. Jus because of dua lips and Kendrick?? Guys there's over 1000 acts at the picnic last year. 7 or 8 stages .. You are not forced to listen to any of the music... While dua lipa and Kendrick are playing pick one of the other 7 stages to go to.... Listen its not the line up I was hoping for either but no one forced me too buy a ticket before I knew the line up that..... Plus there will be more announcements , noel Gallagher and big acts like that weren't announced before until the 2nd or 3rd announcement... And yes I was a nerd fan back in the day had the first two albums but I totally agree they shouldn't be headlining and might not yet be, there will be loads more guitar and dance acts added

Tonto123, you speak sense. Let us hope though that they have not spent all of the moolah on Kendrick etc, and that there is enough depth to the lineup for those of us that wish to hear something different.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 7:52pm

corm500 wrote: »

BadTurtle wrote: »

Pretty much. Noel Gallagher, Kasabian, anything that's famous via Fifa or you can glass a geezer to.

Nope, nope, nope and nope. You X-Factor wannabes think that’s all us oldies like. For the record I have seen Massive Attack and Nerd before, enjoyed them both, but keep it for Longitude. Most major festivals in this country are filled with dance/electronics and rap. Let the ep be diverse. Music should be formed in bedrooms and garages, not by a committee in a boardroom.

I'm a bit bemused by your posts, buddy. You're possibly on a wind-up. Either that or you've never been to EP. I'm no apologist for the organisers and God knows there's things all of us on here would change but 'let the EP be diverse'? The range of acts on every year is mental. As has been said a hundred times , there are a hundred plus acts still to be announced and they will span the whole spectrum of genres. Everyone has their wishlist and we're all disappointed when they don't appear but save the doomsday nonsense for August when you've had a proper look through things. Open your mind a bit.

scruff monkey · 15-03-2018 8:07pm

Reggie noble wrote: »

Talking to a lad in the know there , this the lineup tomorrow

Arctic monkeys
Muse
Bloc party
Chromeo
The streets
Miiike snow
Chvrches
Schoolboy Q
Ice cube
Hudson Mohawk
Rustie
Vitalic
Vampire weekend

As the great Meat Loaf once sang, 1 out of 13 ain't bad.

sally cinnamon89 · 15-03-2018 8:09pm

I wasn't sure about this year but I think I'll give it a miss and head to All Together Now. Hopefully I'll be back next year

Ferris_Bueller · 15-03-2018 8:15pm

I reckon we still have 2 or 3 sub-headliners to come. Is there any acts on the poster who are big enough to sub headline the main stage? I don't think there is and in previous years the second announcement is when we got Elbow, Phoenix, The 1975, Noel Gallagher, Blur and Sam Smith who were all acts who at least sub headlined. As another poster pointed out, usually there are around 5 or 6 acts in special font up the top of the poster, so far we only have 3 so I'd say we still have at least two big acts to come (although probably not headliners).

There is a lack of a big guitar band near the top of the poster (for the first year ever probably?), also no "retro" act or not really any big dance/electronic act. So I would hope whoever is to come ticks some of those boxes anyway. It can be fleshed out more in the next announcements as I'm sure it will be but based on what has been announced so far, I think the lineups for All Together Now and Forbidden Fruit are better.

dansan7 · 15-03-2018 8:18pm

I've been using these threads the last 5-6 years for rumours and such. Had to finally set up an account and post something. The absolute entertainment I've gotten here has been fantastic. I think someone could do a PhD on EP Post Announcement Syndrome. You have three main categories.

1. IT'S THE WORST EVER (Aka All Caps Alan). Primary argument posits that the music announced is for babies or worse WOMEN who use tan. Because as we all know, using fake tan and liking chart music makes you inherently inferior.

2. Defensive Derek. Derek argues that actually this is perfect, and if you had a more discerning palate then you'd appreciate it. Secretly worried that All Caps Alan might be right but needs to justify his expenditure.

3. Neutral Nancy. Could be better, could be worse. Likes some music listed, not others. Nancy doesn't like confrontation and keeps their love of Radio Friendly Band under wraps for fear of social isolation.

In fairness there's no right or wrong way to react. Obviously you are equally entitled to be delighted or disgusted and ultimately your wallet will decide if any music festival will continue to be successful. But I will say that the Irish tendency has been overwhelmingly negative for years. Or the negative has just been more vocal. I think there is no collection of acts that will 'work'. Since 2014 in particular each year has failed some section of music junkies. It's either the horror of seeing Lana Del Rey in the lineup, the disgust at no rock band, too much rap etc.

For my money I've been happy every time I've been and while I have my preferences I've always had way too many acts to fit them all in!

blueberrypie · 15-03-2018 8:37pm

Great post DANSAN7!

LMFAO
I'm a Neutral Nancy!!

Secretly delighted Dua Lipa is there!

Mrs Shuttleworth · 15-03-2018 8:46pm

I've seen Dua Lipa live, she's a lab grown stage school Britney clone. Ditto that Sigrid thing.

They are not EP material.

endainoz · 15-03-2018 8:48pm

Folks there's a lad on Twitter called Johnny McSmrt. He's even went out of his was to tell NERD how bad they are. Hilarious stuff, his one follower must be his mother.

Poorside · 15-03-2018 8:54pm

The best thing about this lineup, the amount of teenagers that’ll be around to kick.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 8:57pm

dansan7 wrote: »

I've been using these threads the last 5-6 years for rumours and such. Had to finally set up an account and post something. The absolute entertainment I've gotten here has been fantastic. I think someone could do a PhD on EP Post Announcement Syndrome. You have three main categories.

1. IT'S THE WORST EVER (Aka All Caps Alan). Primary argument posits that the music announced is for babies or worse WOMEN who use tan. Because as we all know, using fake tan and liking chart music makes you inherently inferior.

2. Defensive Derek. Derek argues that actually this is perfect, and if you had a more discerning palate then you'd appreciate it. Secretly worried that All Caps Alan might be right but needs to justify his expenditure.

3. Neutral Nancy. Could be better, could be worse. Likes some music listed, not others. Nancy doesn't like confrontation and keeps their love of Radio Friendly Band under wraps for fear of social isolation.

In fairness there's no right or wrong way to react. Obviously you are equally entitled to be delighted or disgusted and ultimately your wallet will decide if any music festival will continue to be successful. But I will say that the Irish tendency has been overwhelmingly negative for years. Or the negative has just been more vocal. I think there is no collection of acts that will 'work'. Since 2014 in particular each year has failed some section of music junkies. It's either the horror of seeing Lana Del Rey in the lineup, the disgust at no rock band, too much rap etc.

For my money I've been happy every time I've been and while I have my preferences I've always had way too many acts to fit them all in!

Very good, Dan. I myself am a Neutral Nancy. I feel you are dramatically underselling this thread when it comes to the possibilities for further education. I feel if we were in America, reactions to all things Picnic would at this stage be a degree course in a minor mid-west university and Scruff and BD gainfully employed as visiting Professors.
In fairness, negativity is what the internet does best these days. It always turns out well for the 50000 odd that show up.

Electric Picnic 2018 **Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales** [Part 1]

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Electric Picnic 2018 Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales [Part 1]