Electric Picnic 2018 Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales [Part 1]

sally cinnamon89 · 15-03-2018 07:09PM

I wasn't sure about this year but I think I'll give it a miss and head to All Together Now. Hopefully I'll be back next year

Ferris_Bueller · 15-03-2018 07:15PM

I reckon we still have 2 or 3 sub-headliners to come. Is there any acts on the poster who are big enough to sub headline the main stage? I don't think there is and in previous years the second announcement is when we got Elbow, Phoenix, The 1975, Noel Gallagher, Blur and Sam Smith who were all acts who at least sub headlined. As another poster pointed out, usually there are around 5 or 6 acts in special font up the top of the poster, so far we only have 3 so I'd say we still have at least two big acts to come (although probably not headliners).

There is a lack of a big guitar band near the top of the poster (for the first year ever probably?), also no "retro" act or not really any big dance/electronic act. So I would hope whoever is to come ticks some of those boxes anyway. It can be fleshed out more in the next announcements as I'm sure it will be but based on what has been announced so far, I think the lineups for All Together Now and Forbidden Fruit are better.

dansan7 · 15-03-2018 07:18PM

I've been using these threads the last 5-6 years for rumours and such. Had to finally set up an account and post something. The absolute entertainment I've gotten here has been fantastic. I think someone could do a PhD on EP Post Announcement Syndrome. You have three main categories.

1. IT'S THE WORST EVER (Aka All Caps Alan). Primary argument posits that the music announced is for babies or worse WOMEN who use tan. Because as we all know, using fake tan and liking chart music makes you inherently inferior.

2. Defensive Derek. Derek argues that actually this is perfect, and if you had a more discerning palate then you'd appreciate it. Secretly worried that All Caps Alan might be right but needs to justify his expenditure.

3. Neutral Nancy. Could be better, could be worse. Likes some music listed, not others. Nancy doesn't like confrontation and keeps their love of Radio Friendly Band under wraps for fear of social isolation.

In fairness there's no right or wrong way to react. Obviously you are equally entitled to be delighted or disgusted and ultimately your wallet will decide if any music festival will continue to be successful. But I will say that the Irish tendency has been overwhelmingly negative for years. Or the negative has just been more vocal. I think there is no collection of acts that will 'work'. Since 2014 in particular each year has failed some section of music junkies. It's either the horror of seeing Lana Del Rey in the lineup, the disgust at no rock band, too much rap etc.

For my money I've been happy every time I've been and while I have my preferences I've always had way too many acts to fit them all in!

blueberrypie · 15-03-2018 07:37PM

Great post DANSAN7!

LMFAO
I'm a Neutral Nancy!!

Secretly delighted Dua Lipa is there!

Mrs Shuttleworth · 15-03-2018 07:46PM

I've seen Dua Lipa live, she's a lab grown stage school Britney clone. Ditto that Sigrid thing.

They are not EP material.

endainoz · 15-03-2018 07:48PM

Folks there's a lad on Twitter called Johnny McSmrt. He's even went out of his was to tell NERD how bad they are. Hilarious stuff, his one follower must be his mother.

Poorside · 15-03-2018 07:54PM

The best thing about this lineup, the amount of teenagers that’ll be around to kick.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 07:57PM

dansan7 wrote: »

I've been using these threads the last 5-6 years for rumours and such. Had to finally set up an account and post something. The absolute entertainment I've gotten here has been fantastic. I think someone could do a PhD on EP Post Announcement Syndrome. You have three main categories.

1. IT'S THE WORST EVER (Aka All Caps Alan). Primary argument posits that the music announced is for babies or worse WOMEN who use tan. Because as we all know, using fake tan and liking chart music makes you inherently inferior.

2. Defensive Derek. Derek argues that actually this is perfect, and if you had a more discerning palate then you'd appreciate it. Secretly worried that All Caps Alan might be right but needs to justify his expenditure.

3. Neutral Nancy. Could be better, could be worse. Likes some music listed, not others. Nancy doesn't like confrontation and keeps their love of Radio Friendly Band under wraps for fear of social isolation.

In fairness there's no right or wrong way to react. Obviously you are equally entitled to be delighted or disgusted and ultimately your wallet will decide if any music festival will continue to be successful. But I will say that the Irish tendency has been overwhelmingly negative for years. Or the negative has just been more vocal. I think there is no collection of acts that will 'work'. Since 2014 in particular each year has failed some section of music junkies. It's either the horror of seeing Lana Del Rey in the lineup, the disgust at no rock band, too much rap etc.

For my money I've been happy every time I've been and while I have my preferences I've always had way too many acts to fit them all in!

Very good, Dan. I myself am a Neutral Nancy. I feel you are dramatically underselling this thread when it comes to the possibilities for further education. I feel if we were in America, reactions to all things Picnic would at this stage be a degree course in a minor mid-west university and Scruff and BD gainfully employed as visiting Professors.
In fairness, negativity is what the internet does best these days. It always turns out well for the 50000 odd that show up.

sally cinnamon89 · 15-03-2018 07:59PM

Where is a Mr. David Byrne

Poorside · 15-03-2018 08:04PM

sally cinnamon89 wrote: »

Where is a Mr. David Byrne

He’s burning down a house.

I’m sorry, I’ll go.

everlast75 · 15-03-2018 08:07PM

Poorside wrote: »

The best thing about this lineup, the amount of teenagers that’ll be around to kick.

That's kicking talk!

everlast75 · 15-03-2018 08:07PM

Poorside wrote: »

He’s burning down a house.

I’m sorry, I’ll go.

The road to nowhere is that a way

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Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 08:10PM

Poorside wrote: »

The best thing about this lineup, the amount of teenagers that’ll be around to kick.

everlast75 wrote: »

That's kicking talk!

Fair play lads. I'll get me Smiths T-shirt.

dansan7 · 15-03-2018 08:12PM

Thanks Stillill! People can of course be upset but for a percentage of people its often a case of smug. I am so smart because I don't like things. Now I'd apply that to everything, not just music or EP threads. In real life how many conversations do you start with your friends, 'You know whats ****..'. Generally focussing on stuff you like makes for a happier time.

As for Boards Academia, its only a matter of time. Some thesis ideas:

"Schrodinger's Radiohead: Until you check the lineup they both are and are not attending"

"'Daft Punks':" Cogitative Dissonance for the mentally ill or childlike optimism?"

"Headliner? Headliner!?! Hea...head...liner?: The mental gymnastics of arguing over a time slot and bold font"

eplady2017 · 15-03-2018 08:17PM

Nialler9 article saying (http://nialler9.com/electric-picnic-2018/)

"So far, the festival has confirmed that Red Bull, Three, Heineken, Bacardi, Electric Ireland and Just Eat area are back. No word on Body & Soul or other Voices yet but Mindfield, Trailer Park, Salty Dog, Jerry Fish Sideshow, Trenchtown, Comedy, Theatre of Food, Hazel Wood, Anachronica, Transmission and Global Green will return."

No Body and Soul would be a major loss.. Deal breaker for me.. Hope he's wrong...

declanleo · 15-03-2018 08:18PM

sally cinnamon89 wrote: »

Where is a Mr. David Byrne

Us tour

Davysulls86 · 15-03-2018 08:18PM

BadTurtle wrote: »

Not sure why there's all this "it's only for the kids now" nonsense. Who exactly is that? Not Kendrick anyway, being one of if not the most critically acclaimed rapper in the world at the moment. Not NERD, who last played Ireland in 04, around the same time they last had a radio hit. Not Massive, whose act is older than 75% of festival goers now. Are they literally basing it entirely off Dua Lipa and Sigrid?

Also can't see the "there's too much hiphop" argument as anything other than lads who recognise Kendrick and NERD (who aren't even really primarily hip-hop, considering the wide variety of influences their albums take in) and nothing else on the lineup. There's still more indie and rock than there is hip-hop.

I stole this to win an argument on Facebook

recyclebin · 15-03-2018 08:22PM

That line up for Rock Werchter looks amazing. Like the Witness/Oxegen of old when it was still good. 4 day ticket for only 238euro too.

https://www.ticketmaster.be/feature/rockwerchter/?language=en-us

It really does look like we are getting mugged with Electric Picnic lineup in comparison.

LowOdour · 15-03-2018 08:38PM

While not blown away by it all, definitely enough there to look forward to. Kendrick, St.Vincent, Friendly Fires, Ben Clementine.
But my favorite part is discover new music I may have otherwise been off my radar.

In terms of indie/guitar bands, it definitely lacks the initial lineup last year where we got Paraquet Courts, Car seat headrest,Interpol,Japandroida, Fr.John Misty etc.. hopefully we get a similar fill in the next announcement.

Going to do a nice long playlist this evening of many that is on the bill...no doubt my new favorite band is in there somewhere!

D.Q · 15-03-2018 08:43PM

No body and soul would be a huge loss. I wouldn't go.

lordgoat · 15-03-2018 08:46PM

tonto123 wrote: »

Right deep breaths .... I do not know one Kendrick lemar song so I'm not crazy bout him being a headliner... But No kids I mean none know massive attack or nerd so how are people saying its a teenage lineup. Jus because of dua lips and Kendrick?? Guys there's over 1000 acts at the picnic last year.

I'm over 35 and Kendrick is the only thing on the line up i'd love to see. Few other bits and pieces but not much

sally cinnamon89 wrote: »

Where is a Mr. David Byrne

Delighted he's not in a field in Laois in September! Hoping for another NCH later in the year.

The RW festival line up for me is worse than EP. But i do know that there are loads of festivals out there and if i want i can go to one and not complain about another.

BananaR · 15-03-2018 08:51PM

dansan7 wrote: »

Thanks Stillill! People can of course be upset but for a percentage of people its often a case of smug. I am so smart because I don't like things. Now I'd apply that to everything, not just music or EP threads. In real life how many conversations do you start with your friends, 'You know whats ****..'. Generally focussing on stuff you like makes for a happier time.

As for Boards Academia, its only a matter of time. Some thesis ideas:

"Schrodinger's Radiohead: Until you check the lineup they both are and are not attending"

"'Daft Punks':" Cogitative Dissonance for the mentally ill or childlike optimism?"

"Headliner? Headliner!?! Hea...head...liner?: The mental gymnastics of arguing over a time slot and bold font"

How about - EP & the post-colonial Irish psyche - how we devalue ourselves through our acceptance of pure ****e festival line-ups. ....

Davysulls86 · 15-03-2018 09:02PM

Overall pleased with the line up. Have a flight tomorrow so playlist is ready to go for some research.

Looking forward to Massive Attack and N.E.R.D. Chvchres I've seen before, and enjoyed. Am enjoying Dermot Kennedy's stuff on Spotify at the moment. Ben Howard is class. Not a fan of Dua Lipa, but she's pretty nice to look at, so I won't complain if the Mrs drags me along.
I don't know much about Kendrick Lamar, but as long as he's not clashing with anyone major yet to be announced, Ill check him out, he's supposed to be an amazing performer.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 09:03PM

BananaR wrote: »

How about - EP & the post-colonial Irish psyche - how we devalue ourselves through our acceptance of pure ****e festival line-ups. ....

I feel if we could all sit down around the fire in Body and Soul for half an hour and discuss it all over a couple of cans, we could find a middle ground.

Stillill42 · 15-03-2018 09:06PM

I see what I've done there. Classic neutral Nancy behaviour.

Paddy2012 · 15-03-2018 09:28PM

recyclebin wrote: »

That line up for Rock Werchter looks amazing. Like the Witness/Oxegen of old when it was still good. 4 day ticket for only 238euro too.

https://www.ticketmaster.be/feature/rockwerchter/?language=en-us

It really does look like we are getting mugged with Electric Picnic lineup in comparison.

You have a point with regards to the ticket price/value for money I suppose but I'm still pleasantly surprised with the initial announcement and would probably prefer Kendrick over any of those headliners (I've seen most of them a few times already).

Mike Guide 69 · 15-03-2018 09:30PM

recyclebin wrote: »

That line up for Rock Werchter looks amazing. Like the Witness/Oxegen of old when it was still good. 4 day ticket for only 238euro too.

https://www.ticketmaster.be/feature/rockwerchter/?language=en-us

It really does look like we are getting mugged with Electric Picnic lineup in comparison.

That’s a cracking lineup there , forgot about Nine Inch Nails touring as well,although they’ll be finishing up a tour in Japan in mid August,so not a hope in hell,pity

Peterd66 · 15-03-2018 09:34PM

BullBlackNova wrote: »

It is mentioned in the press release so I'd say it's there alright. No idea why it wouldn't be included in the poster, though.

Presser:

referring to B&S

From further back.:)

grudgehugger · 15-03-2018 09:38PM

D.Q wrote: »

No body and soul would be a huge loss. I wouldn't go.

If BnS area was in doubt would they be still listed on the main website? (not being smart, genuine question! It could be imcompetence, or the nialler9 thing could be someone stirring?)

Body&Soul on EP18 site

endainoz · 15-03-2018 09:41PM

A lot of festivals on the continent are subsidised by the countrys government too, more money to spend on acts and cheaper tickets for punters. It's been this way for a long time. I'm not sure if a big festival like the picnic gets subsidies like smaller festivals in Ireland do but the big European ones do.

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