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Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

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  • #752
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Not to be dramatic but it’s heartbreaking.

    Look around and you see the ****hole crap we’re in on every level.

    These cvnts literally milking it on every front and it isn’t breaking any rules somehow and then fraudulently as with Bailey and Farrell

    Over 10,0000 homeless people and rising
    It’s not fvckin fair.


  • #753
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Not to be dramatic but it’s heartbreaking.

    Look around and you see the ****hole crap we’re in on every level.

    These cvnts literally milking it on every front and it isn’t breaking any rules somehow and then fraudulently as with Bailey and Farrell

    Over 10,0000 homeless people and rising
    It’s not fvckin fair.

    That's what it's all about. Make money before FF get back in.


  • #754
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    That's what it's all about. Make money before FF get back in.

    Well they’re all at it too and far ‘better’ at it.

    Listening to David McWilliams last Podcast and he makes a point about how Norway dealt with its oil find so geniusly, imagine Ireland had found oil. Imagine Charlie haughey in charge and we found oil.

    It would put the Nigeria oil corruption into last place


  • #755
    Cunning Stunt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Cunning Stunt


    Theyre only in the jobs to line their own pockets, and sure why not, when the system/law allows them to - and if it doesnt, they just change it!

    Its gone so far - the whole gvnt is rotting to the core - but the ones who want to get in are no better! How can we come back from this? Serious question! How would you seriously go about cleaning up the Irish government and ensuring the next one doesnt do the same?!


  • #756
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Cunning Stunt wrote: »
    Theyre only in the jobs to line their own pockets, and sure why not, when the system/law allows them to - and if it doesnt, they just change it!

    Its gone so far - the whole gvnt is rotting to the core - but the ones who want to get in are no better! How can we come back from this? Serious question! How would you seriously go about cleaning up the Irish government and ensuring the next one doesnt do the same?!

    Gas actually. Their defenders will raise Margret Cash, another one like Dara and Enda gaming the system. Funnily enough more honest than Farrell and Bailey ;)


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  • #757
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Cunning Stunt wrote: »
    Theyre only in the jobs to line their own pockets, and sure why not, when the system/law allows them to - and if it doesnt, they just change it!

    Its gone so far - the whole gvnt is rotting to the core - but the ones who want to get in are no better! How can we come back from this? Serious question! How would you seriously go about cleaning up the Irish government and ensuring the next one doesnt do the same?!

    Start a political party.

    Run for office.


  • #758
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Allinall wrote: »
    Start a political party.

    Run for office.

    If a mechanic makes a balls of your car engine and you complain, should you be told to become a mechanic and fix it yourself?


  • #759
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Allinall wrote: »
    Start a political party.

    Run for office.

    I know it's not what you posted, but this is what I read all the same.

    Stop complaining about the piss poor calibre of our politicians, so what if they're a wee bit crooked, a lil but dodgy, and involved in the odd scam, if you wanna be a decent honest politician (that's what they're supposed to be too btw) run for office yourself.


  • #760
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Well they’re all at it too and far ‘better’ at it.

    Listening to David McWilliams last Podcast and he makes a point about how Norway dealt with its oil find so geniusly, imagine Ireland had found oil. Imagine Charlie haughey in charge and we found oil.

    It would put the Nigeria oil corruption into last place


    http://www.shelltosea.com/content/gas-oil-robbery
    https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/sale-of-the-centurythe-500-deal-for-irelands-gas-and-oil/


  • #761
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Sometimes a picture says it all.


    IMG-20191205-111058.jpg

    Maria Bailey independent candidate anyone?

    Wow the voters of south Dublin must feel really privileged to get the opportunity to meet Maria at her once monthly constituency clinic which lasts all of a single hour. Is this what politicians mean when they tell us that they are working hard in their constituency?


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  • #762
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Wow the voters of south Dublin must feel really privileged to get the opportunity to meet Maria at her once monthly constituency clinic which lasts all of a single hour. Is this what politicians mean when they tell us that they are working hard in their constituency?

    Probably just a box ticking exercise.
    Dara Murphy like.


  • #763
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Wow the voters of south Dublin must feel really privileged to get the opportunity to meet Maria at her once monthly constituency clinic which lasts all of a single hour. Is this what politicians mean when they tell us that they are working hard in their constituency?

    If I was in that constituency, I would book a slot in her busy schedule. Then I would walk in, sit down and then promptly fall off the chair....just to see her face :pac:


  • #764
    Higgins5473
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    who are the two people to the right of the bailey and madigan ads? they are both quite attractive.


  • #765
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    who are the two people to the right of the bailey and madigan ads? they are both quite attractive.


    Ad's for Specsavers it would seem :pac:


  • #766
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Venom wrote: »
    Ad's for Specsavers it would seem :pac:

    Whatever about her politics, Josepha Madigan is a right saucy little devil, I reckon. I always fancied her. She's about my age too.


  • #767
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    If I was in that constituency, I would book a slot in her busy schedule. Then I would walk in, sit down and then promptly fall off the chair....just to see her face :pac:

    Would you have had a GLASS OF WINE and a drink in each hand, by any chance? :)


  • #768
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    I should also add that I felt a bit sorry for her with the timing of the whole Bailey incident. Josepha Madigan was the one who pushed for the referendum to get rid of the 4 year rule for getting divorced. IMO this is what TD's should be doing; trying to change society here for the better.

    But she fell on her sword, as a solicitor it came out that she assisted her client in instigating a frivolous complaint against a business on spurious grounds (no signage and nobody to tell her how to use a swing). You live by the sword, you die by the sword.


  • #769
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    KevRossi wrote: »
    There was a thread here a while ago on how Katherine Zappone 'adjusted' her route to the Dail to fit it into the >25 Km category to get higher expenses paid. She then claimed to live elsewhere. Problem was that she had her home done up on Room to Improve and she stated several times that it was her permanent home.

    O'Rourke is pushing it by claiming he is 25Km from the Dail, if he lives to the west of Celbridge it's OK, but if he lives in the town the Google says it's just under.

    EDIT: Thread on Zappone is here, €80K claimed over 5 years: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99503727

    My dad has carers come in to assist him/me everyday. It’s a mix of HSE and agency staff. They have a full schedule of homes to visit 7 days a week.

    The HSE carers use their own cars but can claim mileage to cover running costs. The agency staff use their own cars and have to pay their for their own fuel. Over the course of the week, they tot up a considerable amount of miles going from client to client. That’s a pretty big dent in their wage.

    Sometimes, the agency may only have to cover 2 clients in a day, which equals 1 hours work. They are pretty much working for nothing on those type of days (cost of getting to work and tax). Contacted workplace relations about travelling expenses and they said their employer was not legally obliged to pay them for travelling from job to job.

    Then you see all these TDs getting travel expenses which amount to more than the carers gross wage! It boils my blood.


  • #770
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    KevRossi wrote: »
    I should also add that I felt a bit sorry for her with the timing of the whole Bailey incident. Josepha Madigan was the one who pushed for the referendum to get rid of the 4 year rule for getting divorced. IMO this is what TD's should be doing; trying to change society here for the better.
    And of course the profit to made from depressed kids and ruined lives had no impact on her calculations.


    Her father was a slumlord, her brother's the worst sort of ambulance chaser.


  • #771
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Well they’re all at it too and far ‘better’ at it.

    Listening to David McWilliams last Podcast and he makes a point about how Norway dealt with its oil find so geniusly, imagine Ireland had found oil. Imagine Charlie haughey in charge and we found oil.

    It would put the Nigeria oil corruption into last place

    Is that David McWilliams of the cheapest ever bank bailout idea?


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  • #772
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,008 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    :D
    1s8nuKh.jpg


  • #773
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    zell12 wrote: »
    :D
    1s8nuKh.jpg

    Raised €920,000......for??


  • #774
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,411 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Raised €920,000......for??

    Think their insurance keeps going up


  • #775
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Raised €920,000......for??

    The Fine Gael political party?

    Their election war chest?


  • #776
    Doc07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Doc07


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Raised €920,000......for??

    Themselves. This is about the only non controversial thing they’ve done this year.
    Slightly less corrupt way of raising cash also.
    As in 11,500 small donations demands a a lot less in favours than a single 920,000.......unless Denis and Larry bought 10,000 tickets


  • #777
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,325 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    My dad has carers come in to assist him/me everyday. It’s a mix of HSE and agency staff. They have a full schedule of homes to visit 7 days a week.

    The HSE carers use their own cars but can claim mileage to cover running costs. The agency staff use their own cars and have to pay their for their own fuel. Over the course of the week, they tot up a considerable amount of miles going from client to client. That’s a pretty big dent in their wage.

    Sometimes, the agency may only have to cover 2 clients in a day, which equals 1 hours work. They are pretty much working for nothing on those type of days (cost of getting to work and tax). Contacted workplace relations about travelling expenses and they said their employer was not legally obliged to pay them for travelling from job to job.

    Then you see all these TDs getting travel expenses which amount to more than the carers gross wage! It boils my blood.

    Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
    I’m disgusted at that.


  • #778
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
    I’m disgusted at that.
    Is there any chance that he was just thinking about himself when he signed off on that allowance/perks increase just a short time after he became Taoiseach himself?


  • #779
    Higgins5473
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    KevRossi wrote: »
    I should also add that I felt a bit sorry for her with the timing of the whole Bailey incident. Josepha Madigan was the one who pushed for the referendum to get rid of the 4 year rule for getting divorced. IMO this is what TD's should be doing; trying to change society here for the better.

    But she fell on her sword, as a solicitor it came out that she assisted her client in instigating a frivolous complaint against a business on spurious grounds (no signage and nobody to tell her how to use a swing). You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

    Did you consider a change in this law would've meant a hell of a lot more business for firms, especially for firms that specialise in Family Law, which surprise surprise, hers does...especially when she was championing the cause. She's a self-serving parasite.


  • #780
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
    I’m disgusted at that.


    This kip of a country is run by 2 faced scumbags.

    The more revelations being revealed, the. More saintlier MB appears. Sure, isn’t she only doing what her ‘leader’ is doing.


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  • #781
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
    I’m disgusted at that.

    Read today that 3 million was spent building 8 houses for travelers in Wexford who refused to move from their caravans until houses were provided.

    That money could have been spent in the children’s hospital.

    I’m disgusted at that.


  • #782
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Allinall


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
    I’m disgusted at that.

    What allowances? Genuine question.

    I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

    We’re any of those taken away at some point?

    What was reinstated?


  • #783
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Allinall wrote: »
    What allowances? Genuine question.

    I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

    We’re any of those taken away at some point?

    What was reinstated?

    Printing, secretaries, free airport VIP lounges for life. Enda removed everything in 2012 apparently.
    Varadkar reinstated everything in 2017.


  • #784
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    Allinall wrote: »
    What allowances? Genuine question.

    I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

    We’re any of those taken away at some point?

    What was reinstated?

    1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous


  • #785
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous


    You serious? Those houses still empty? Surely there are 5 families somewhere in Tipperary that would love a roof over their heads?


  • #786
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Surely there are 5 families somewhere in Tipperary that would love a roof over their heads?
    there are but they'd be burnt out if they took them


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  • #787
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous

    Totally agree, what were the council thinking when they didn't build stables for each house as well?

    It's not like this hasn't happened before.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #788
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    there are but they'd be burnt out if they took them

    So at what point is society going to say...we have had enough of this bullsh!t?

    A sect that is a law on to themselves, who contribute nothing to this society and terrorise anyone who stands up to them.

    There has to come a point at which we collectively say "enough".

    Where is that point?


  • #789
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    So at what point is society going to say...we have had enough of this bullsh!t?

    A sect that is a law on to themselves, who contribute nothing to this society and terrorise anyone who stands up to them.

    There has to come a point at which we collectively say "enough".

    Where is that point?
    no time soon. orwellian special status and hate speech laws will see to that.


  • #790
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Allinall wrote: »
    What allowances? Genuine question.

    I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

    We’re any of those taken away at some point?

    What was reinstated?

    I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......


  • #791
    Higgins5473
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    Bullocks wrote: »
    I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......

    Can you think of a more sh*t job


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  • #792
    sportsfan90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

    Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.


  • #793
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    Can you think of a more sh*t job

    I'd say standing outside Berties house could be a bit of craic :D


  • #794
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,411 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    sportsfan90 wrote: »
    Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

    Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

    Think Taoiseach has one for life as do presidents not positive though. Minister for defence too but only whilst in office and for a short while after. Friend of mines dad had one after he was minister and two weeks after they lost their guard in the garden their house was broken into.


  • #795
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,325 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Surely the job of protecting those ministers should be done by the army?


  • #796
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,935 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Surely the job of protecting those ministers should be done by the army?

    To what end?
    The army have no powers of arrest and the vast majority of interventions made by a CP officer will be a direction to leave the area, which a member of the DF has no statutory footing to make.
    Whilst they are an aid to the civil power, they are not a close protection unit nor should they be treated as one.

    The bottom line is, whichever branch provides the protection the cost will be borne by the state so it's pointless which of the budget headings it comes under.


  • #797
    sportsfan90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    Surely instead of such a huge expense and use of Garda resources, they could just be given a once-off payoff of say 100k that would allow them to install whatever security measures (walls, gates, alarms, cameras) necessary themselves.


  • #798
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,411 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    sportsfan90 wrote: »
    Surely instead of such a huge expense and use of Garda resources, they could just be given a payoff of say 100k that would allow them to install whatever security measures (walls, gates, cameras) necessary themselves.

    Well I would think the argument should be at what point it’s no longer necessary. Cosgraves house had a guard outside it until a while after he died. I hardly think he was under any threat.


  • #799
    WishUWereHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    sportsfan90 wrote: »
    Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

    Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.


    Regarding EK, I have seen him traipsing around Dublin many times, nearly always alone. Perhaps there were plain clothes Gardaí behind, but it didn’t seem that way.


  • #800
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Regarding EK, I have seen him traipsing around Dublin many times, nearly always alone. Perhaps there were plain clothes Gardaí behind, but it didn’t seem that way.

    Enda usually goes without, doesnt like it.


  • #801
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    sportsfan90 wrote: »
    Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

    Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

    When you see the nonsense posted on social media about Taoisigh, you understand why.
    Bullocks wrote: »
    I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......


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