Insufferable beer snobs.

21-07-2020 7:49pm

saabsaab wrote: »

As to what does Guinness tastes like - It depends.

Any Guinness drinkers I know say it changes from place to place and even pub to pub! They claim that one pub serves a 'bad' pint and another a good one!

How can this be?

The best pint I've ever tasted is served in an unassuming little bar in a small Midlands town, and it's generally believed this is because the proprietor never cleans the taps. I don't know if this is true, although one of the people who told me this was his own son.

MrMusician18 · 21-07-2020 7:51pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Have to love the colourful cans these come in and the story of how it came to be and all that waffle. Even some suggest what food to pair with the drink

I like 1 or 2 but would not stay all night on them,the % is the main thing and how tipsy i will get from paying a premium compared to the normal drinks. Drinking 10 pints of craft would not be pretty on you the next day

Craft bars just remind me of hipsters with tattoos and that trendy alternative way, no sports on the TVs, background music of the likes of the stuff you would hear at Electric Picnic and the food offerings are all trendy vegan/meat free. No talking loud etc.

In other words these bars are grand for 1/2, not a whole night you be bored out of the tits

It's the people you are with that makes a session in the pub interesting. Modern bars with their TVs and loud music are designed to stifle conversation so you drink more.

If you get bored in a conversation bar it says more about the company you're keeping tbh.

Strumms · 21-07-2020 7:56pm

saabsaab wrote: »

As to what does Guinness tastes like - It depends.

Any Guinness drinkers I know say it changes from place to place and even pub to pub! They claim that one pub serves a 'bad' pint and another a good one!

How can this be?

It’s true....the pour, the temperature, clean glasses, with no residue of anything..,... I know the best pubs for Guinness and some of the worst too. Best Guinness I’ve ever had... the Gravediggers Glasnevin, the temperature, consistency, head, it’s yummy.

murpho999 · 21-07-2020 8:05pm

I'm sure the craft beers you got were nice but you were just against them. A new taste, just like Guinness can take a while to acquire.

Don't see any harm in the pub trying to push their own stuff , it's just called selling.

You sound like a bigger eejit for calling anyone "dude" imho.

chrissb8 · 21-07-2020 8:09pm

Guinness tastes like smooth darkness with just enough bitterness.

ThewhiteJesus · 21-07-2020 8:16pm

Any craft beer drinker is a ***** imo, and I stay away from pubs that promote it, but each to their own

listermint · 21-07-2020 8:20pm

Love a Guinness myself.

But it tastes like water OP.

You've no taste, none zero. You like a pint of water and complain alot. About sums it up .

Me id drink my Guinness but I'd also like to try the other stuff without a big winge about it.

3DataModem · 21-07-2020 8:21pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

but make sure the Guinness is a decent pint

I also hate beer snobs

21-07-2020 8:21pm

What's wrong with calling someone "dude"? The hipster type chap isn't exactly averse
to using this American slang himself. Hardly derogatory when one is conversing to a bloke
in the service industry, especially if he's young. If he called him "mate" or "friend" the OP
would have suffered more "hounding" perhaps.

Hurrache · 21-07-2020 8:22pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Any craft beer drinker is a ***** imo, and I stay away from pubs that promote it,

And so you should. People with taste don't want to mingle with commoners, especially these days, god knows what they'd catch off you and your polyester leisurewear.

jackboy · 21-07-2020 8:25pm

Strumms wrote: »

It’s true....the pour, the temperature, clean glasses, with no residue of anything..,... I know the best pubs for Guinness and some of the worst too. Best Guinness I’ve ever had... the Gravediggers Glasnevin, the temperature, consistency, head, it’s yummy.

The pour is irrelevant.

iamstop · 21-07-2020 8:29pm

It's funny how the new being a beer snob is 'I can't stand beer snobs'.

murpho999 · 21-07-2020 8:30pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Any craft beer drinker is a ***** imo, and I stay away from pubs that promote it, but each to their own

Why would somebody who doesn't like standard brewery p1ss like Heineken be an arsehole.

It's just different taste and none of it is compulsary.

murpho999 · 21-07-2020 8:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What's wrong with calling someone "dude"? The hipster type chap isn't exactly averse
to using this American slang himself. Hardly derogatory when one is conversing to a bloke
in the service industry, especially if he's young. If he called him "mate" or "friend" the OP
would have suffered more "hounding" perhaps.

We're not in America. Hipsters don't all speak American either.

Mate is not normal in Ireland either.

Abel Ruiz · 21-07-2020 8:35pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

No ordering at the bar these days, so some dork with a ginger beard

'No you're grand, dude', I answered back.

The Guinness was lovely btw, and I polished off 8 of them within the time we were allowed stay in the pub.

You sound like the dork.

21-07-2020 8:37pm

murpho999 wrote: »

We're not in America. Hipsters don't all speak American either.

Mate is not normal in Ireland either.

Would "Shcan", "Sham", or "Boss" be okay?

Maybe "Bud" or "Buddy"

Ush1 · 21-07-2020 8:39pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Question for Guinness drinkers.

What does Guinness taste like?

Like farts, coffee and an ashtray but that some how tastes grand.

Arghus · 21-07-2020 8:41pm

I fcking want a Guinness reading this.

Guinness is all about balance.

The taste of it is not something I think about too frequently; It tastes like Guinness.

I'm in love with the texture, the way it hits the back of your throat, the velvety quality of a really good and cold brand new pint.

Guinness strikes, for me, the perfect balance between some heaviness and some smoothness. Other stouts are either too heavy or too light, or too stuffed with out of place flavourings, designed to give some personality. Guinness is just right.

The whole good v bad pint debate isn't really about taste in my eyes. A bad pint is just alright, a good pint is creamy, refreshing and delicous and goes down before you even know it's happened.

Though, I must confess to have never drunk Guiness from a can. Doesn't feel right to me.

Still waters · 21-07-2020 8:52pm

Can't say I've ever met any beer snobs, I've met plenty pricks that talk out their holes about good and bad porter though

21-07-2020 8:54pm

I’d definitely be one that drinks little other than small Irish brewery stuff these days. That said, someone who tells you what you should and should not want to drink is a pain in the flute.
If you want some Belgian monk stuff, grand. If you want Peroni or Coors then grand too. Enjoy.

Eggs For Dinner · 21-07-2020 8:54pm

I love beer

Guinness, but not Craft Stout
Heineken but not Craft Lager
IPAs, but not DIPAs
Citra Beers, but not Saison
Pale Ale but not Red Ale

There is no right or wrong, only what you like and what you don't

artanevilla · 21-07-2020 8:55pm

Guinness is the least stouty stout.

Temptamperu · 21-07-2020 8:57pm

I dont drink much as I said 2 pints and im drunk. nice way to save money.

Arghus · 21-07-2020 8:59pm

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

I love beer

Guinness, but not Craft Stout
Heineken but not Craft Lager
IPAs, but not DIPAs
Citra Beers, but not Saison
Pale Ale but not Red Ale

There is no right or wrong, only what you like and what you don't

Red ale is a funny one. I've drank some that were really tasty and then others that were terrible. Like genuinely terrible, vaguely tasted like vomit.

Temptamperu · 21-07-2020 9:02pm

Whos drinking for the taste?

Deagol · 21-07-2020 9:10pm

I got into the IPA's a few years ago and I love to try them all - but most are ****e beyond measure. I'm partial to a local one and I keep a few bottles in the fridge but!!! I'm perfectly happy with me Carlsberg on a night out and I'd go for a Harpic if I could get it, had it up the North a few years ago and I can't figure out why it stopped going down this way.

Each to his own is my thing but definitely there are way too many gob****es who look down their noses at any of the established brews and will dull the ear of you talking rubbish about craft beers.

My question always is, if Guinness / Heineken / Carlsberg etc. etc. are crap and rubbish, how is that they've been around for 200-300 years??? Is it reasonable to surmise that the better breweries go bust while the cr@p one's survived?

Of course, Budweiser (IMO) may be the proof that that hypothesis is true

Strumms · 21-07-2020 9:18pm

jackboy wrote: »

The pour is irrelevant.

Not according to Guinness,

saabsaab · 21-07-2020 9:22pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

It's the people you are with that makes a session in the pub interesting. Modern bars with their TVs and loud music are designed to stifle conversation so you drink more.

If you get bored in a conversation bar it says more about the company you're keeping tbh.

Hate them in a pub I never get bored in a pub, talking. Not too sure of those with me though.

Feisar · 21-07-2020 9:25pm

artanevilla wrote: »

Guinness is the least stouty stout.

Fullers London Porter, now there’s a stout.

jackboy · 21-07-2020 9:28pm

Strumms wrote: »

Not according to Guinness,

Yeah the pour thing is great marketing stuff.

Also the nitrogen gas in the pubs to cause the settling effect. People looking at it like it’s amazing. If Budweiser was put on the Guinness system it would settle just like a pint of Guinness.

Zebra3 · 21-07-2020 9:34pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

Whos drinking for the taste?

Adults.

saabsaab · 21-07-2020 9:37pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

I dont drink much as I said 2 pints and im drunk. nice way to save money.

Handy. What do you do after the first twenty minutes in the pub?

Temptamperu · 21-07-2020 9:39pm

saabsaab wrote: »

Handy. What do you do after the first twenty minutes in the pub?

**** that I'm home.

rje66 · 21-07-2020 9:40pm

saabsaab wrote: »

Handy. What do you do after the first twenty minutes in the pub?

Becomes the OP...........WINK WINK

saabsaab · 21-07-2020 9:45pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

**** that I'm home.

Ah Ha!

Pinch Flat · 21-07-2020 9:46pm

crying in my Belgian fruit lambic reading this thread

Royale with Cheese · 21-07-2020 9:55pm

Is the two part pour not because Guinness contracts slightly after its poured? Thus allowing it to contract, pour again and you get a nice head and slightly more beer than you would have if it was poured straight?

Cushtie · 21-07-2020 10:01pm

Ah jasus, I didn't go near a pint in nearly 10 years and ye have me gasping for one now!!

21-07-2020 10:01pm

Arghus wrote: »

I fcking want a Guinness reading this.

Guinness is all about balance.

The taste of it is not something I think about too frequently; It tastes like Guinness.

I'm in love with the texture, the way it hits the back of your throat, the velvety quality of a really good and cold brand new pint.

Guinness strikes, for me, the perfect balance between some heaviness and some smoothness. Other stouts are either too heavy or too light, or too stuffed with out of place flavourings, designed to give some personality. Guinness is just right.

John B Keane described it better than anyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL2Kq8uA0GI

Temptamperu · 21-07-2020 10:08pm

Cushtie wrote: »

Ah jasus, I didn't go near a pint in nearly 10 years and ye have me gasping for one now!!

It was about the same for me before tonight.

Zaph · 21-07-2020 10:15pm

The real problem in the OP as I see it is the barman's sales technique, not craft beer. If he was giving away a sample of his own stuff anyway, what he should have done is drop down the pint of Guinness and tell the OP that as he's a Guinness drinker he might enjoy trying their own stout and leave the sample beside the pint. No hard sell to get the OP's back up and if people like it they'll buy it after tasting it, but won't feel they were pressured into it. There are some pretty crap craft stouts around it has to be said, but there are also some incredible ones. To write them all off because "they're not Guinness" is potentially depriving yourself of some great beer, but at the end of the day people should just drink what they like and not bother with what others drink. Apart from Budweiser drinkers, come the revolution I'll show them no mercy. :pac:

Rodney Bathgate · 21-07-2020 10:18pm

I’d rather drink my own scutter.

Oscar Bravo · 21-07-2020 10:21pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I was down West over the weekend for a few days holiday, and visited a pub on the Friday night as it has a good reputation for seafood.

No ordering at the bar these days, so some dork with a ginger beard and a load of tattoos came down to take our order. I asked for a dozen oysters to start, and a pint of Guinness. 'We have an excellent selections of stouts and porters in the bottle, as well as our own house stout if you'd prefer that instead', he said upon hearing my order.

'No you're grand, dude', I answered back.

'I can bring down a sample if you like. It's much more flavoursome than Guinness'.

'Grand so', I said, 'but make sure the Guinness is a decent pint as I'm rasping here with the thirst'.

Down comes my pint of Guinness, and I horse it into me like it's my last. Eventually a sample of their own house stout arrives down with my oysters. It tastes like bovril, cabbage water, and what I'd imagine a fungal toe infection tastes like. Disgusting.

Why do beer snobs always want to push their overpriced muck on punters? Like there's a few craft beers I like, especially that Galway Hooker stuff, but I'll try them in my own good time. This is the second time something like this has happened to me in the past year, and I'm wondering why beer snobs just can't get over the idea that the majority of people want the beer they want?

The Guinness was lovely btw, and I polished off 8 of them within the time we were allowed stay in the pub.[/QUOTE

Thankfully we wont see you down west for a while again

listermint · 21-07-2020 10:23pm

Zaph wrote: »

The real problem in the OP as I see it is the barman's sales technique, not craft beer. If he was giving away a sample of his own stuff anyway, what he should have done is drop down the pint of Guinness and tell the OP that as he's a Guinness drinker he might enjoy trying their own stout and leave the sample beside the pint. No hard sell to get the OP's back up and if people like it they'll buy it after tasting it, but won't feel they were pressured into it. There are some pretty crap craft stouts around it has to be said, but there are also some incredible ones. To write them all off because "they're not Guinness" is potentially depriving yourself of some great beer, but at the end of the day people should just drink what they like and not bother with what others drink. Apart from Budweiser drinkers, come the revolution I'll show them no mercy. :pac:

If the OP got his back up about free beer.

He has no business being in a pub. Stay home you absolute layman.

Stay home leave the pub to real people.

The barman did a grand job.

HBC08 · 21-07-2020 10:26pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

It's an odd one and it can sound like complete BS to non drinkers but historically there would be a big variance from place to place. That's lessening all the time, and it's hard to find a bad one now. Dublin used to be a lot more consistent than elsewhere but rural places have caught up.

If it's any warmer than the required temp, it tends to be muck. You get away with it being colder than normal, although it dampens the taste a bit. The 2 part pour is a marketing myth and complete bollocks, but so ingrained now you cant be a publican who doesn't. The tilt does matter to a degree but same with every beer

Young males are drinking it more than ever before also. Have heard it put down to a number of factors but the better consistency and an overall image change away from fat elders on stools are the main ones

Every single line of that post is boll0cks.

whisky_galore · 21-07-2020 10:28pm

Oysters. Gawk.
Swallowing cold snot.

Lewis_Benson · 21-07-2020 10:39pm

Arghus wrote: »

The people who go on about beer snobs are far more numerous and far more annoying then the actually small amount of genuine beer snobs.

I've met one lad in my life who was a complete beer snob. One. I've met about fifty blowhards going on about beer snobs.

This

And this thread probably belongs in R&R.

saabsaab · 21-07-2020 11:34pm

What I want to know is what happened to Harp down south? Used to be on tap everywhere once.

murpho999 · 22-07-2020 12:03am

Deleted User wrote: »

Would "Shcan", "Sham", or "Boss" be okay?

Maybe "Bud" or "Buddy"

Or how about not using any of those terms at all? Simple.

MrMusician18 · 22-07-2020 12:12am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

The best pint I've ever tasted is served in an unassuming little bar in a small Midlands town, and it's generally believed this is because the proprietor never cleans the taps. I don't know if this is true, although one of the people who told me this was his own son.

So you has a Guinness that was slightly off and you thought it tasted better. Doesn't say much for the drink tbh.

For some solid 24k gold Guinness BS, see video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbVwv6yMOs

Insufferable beer snobs.

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