Shackleton Park, Lucan

KateTT · 18-05-2018 11:25am

Hi all,

I am hoping to buy at Shackleton in the next phase and am very interested to hear about how everyone that bought in the past got their tickets for the sale day. Did you queue up at the site in the week before the sale day? Or did you get tickets from H&McD?

Or perhaps the queues were manageable enough not to get tickets ahead of time?

Any information on this would be much appreciated.

xalot · 18-05-2018 3:11pm

The houses are released in stages for the current phase, there seems to be an open house every two weeks where they add around 10-15 houses. I've gone to a few of the open houses and they are different houses on sale each time (with the exception of 1 or 2 properties).
I believe they've a showing this Saturday but only the 4 beds are left.

I imagine it'll be the same for the next phase but they still have to finish phase 1 so I'm guessing they wont launch until next year, at least.

Boaby · 28-05-2018 7:46pm

Anyone know the reason for the esb delay for connecting the power to the most recent houses? Just wondering if it's short or could it go on for weeks?

mdabar · 16-06-2018 1:21pm

Hi all, do you know if they're punctual in delivering the houses?
I mean if the next phase is supposed to be ready in December...can we expect to move in in December?

Thanks!

Boaby · 16-06-2018 1:55pm

I bought off the plans last Sept told id be in by feb. Still waitin on the keys. Was suppose to get the keys a month ago then didn't happen and was told another 3 weeks yesterday. I would expect to be in the following july if you were told December!!

xalot · 17-06-2018 7:37am

mdabar wrote: »

Hi all, do you know if they're punctual in delivering the houses?
I mean if the next phase is supposed to be ready in December...can we expect to move in in December?

Thanks!

Our house finished a month early.

mdabar · 17-06-2018 11:49am

Boaby wrote: »

I bought off the plans last Sept told id be in by feb. Still waitin on the keys. Was suppose to get the keys a month ago then didn't happen and was told another 3 weeks yesterday. I would expect to be in the following july if you were told December!!

xalot wrote: »

Our house finished a month early.

So there's a little bit of everything :-/
I've visited the zone a couple of times and the works are already moving at good pace. You can see significative differences within some days. So I'm optimistic. It would be a great "Christmas present" this year :-P

Good luck with your keys @Boaby !

And what about commute? I'll be using car towards Damastown but my wife will surely rely on public transport to city centre.
What are the best options? I've seen Adamstown train station is quite far yet. It'll be different once they open all the new roads/streets.

Thanks!

Dr.Winston O'Boogie · 18-06-2018 11:33am

Theres a bus stop just down the road for the bus route number 25. This goes through the village then into town via Chapleizod and along the quays in town to merrion square.

You could also get one of the express buses in the morning as there is a stop just across the N4. However they only operate at peak times in and out of the city. They are much faster than the other buses.

06-07-2018 4:07am

Dr.Winston O'Boogie wrote: »

Theres a bus stop just down the road for the bus route number 25. This goes through the village then into town via Chapleizod and along the quays in town to merrion square.

You could also get one of the express buses in the morning as there is a stop just across the N4. However they only operaHte at peak times in and out of the city. They are much faster than the other buses.

Hi,
There are 25xs (express bus) which depart from the 25 bus stop weekdays @ 7:35, 7:50 and 8:10. These go through the village but once they get to Woodies they go straight up the N4, past Heuston , up the quays and eventually out to UCD.
Just on Adamstown train station : I live in the Paddocks and due to a job change I could possibly end up working in Parkwest which is two stops down from the Adamstown station. I was looking at Google maps and there seems to be a path from the bottom of Shackleton to the back of Adamstown.
Does anybody know anything about this path ? Is it open/due to open at any stage ?
This path would cut my trek to the station from 35 mins to 15 I reckon ( currently i would have to walk along the Newcastle road , enter Adamstown and then walk down to the station). Also it would be a huge bonus for the residents of Shakleton to have such easy access to the station.
Thanks

audi5 · 06-07-2018 12:54pm

5555555555 wrote: »

Hi,
There are 25xs (express bus) which depart from the 25 bus stop weekdays @ 7:35, 7:50 and 8:10. These go through the village but once they get to Woodies they go straight up the N4, past Heuston , up the quays and eventually out to UCD.
Just on Adamstown train station : I live in the Paddocks and due to a job change I could possibly end up working in Parkwest which is two stops down from the Adamstown station. I was looking at Google maps and there seems to be a path from the bottom of Shackleton to the back of Adamstown.
Does anybody know anything about this path ? Is it open/due to open at any stage ?
This path would cut my trek to the station from 35 mins to 15 I reckon ( currently i would have to walk along the Newcastle road , enter Adamstown and then walk down to the station). Also it would be a huge bonus for the residents of Shakleton to have such easy access to the station.
Thanks

if you are referring the path in yellow here at the western edge, then I don't think it will be open to public until there is a road built there. Planning was approved few months ago but not sure when development work will start.

Work is already ongoing on the red/blue roads though so they will provide easier access to train station sooner than the road on the western end.

conserbia · 07-07-2018 11:39am

Hi all,

Apologies if this question has been asked many times on this thread already.

Im interested in the Adamstown train station nearby. By the looks of the development plans there will be a road which goes through the middle of shakelton park and swings around connecting it with adamstown train station.

Does the adamstown train still only go to heuston station and are there plans for it to stop at pearse street and grand canal dock via the new tunnel opened under phoenix park?

Does anybody on here use this train regulalry?

Thanks in advance

09-07-2018 10:43am

conserbia wrote: »

Hi all,

Apologies if this question has been asked many times on this thread already.

Im interested in the Adamstown train station nearby. By the looks of the development plans there will be a road which goes through the middle of shakelton park and swings around connecting it with adamstown train station.

Does the adamstown train still only go to heuston station and are there plans for it to stop at pearse street and grand canal dock via the new tunnel opened under phoenix park?

Does anybody on here use this train regulalry?

Thanks in advance

Tunnel is up and running with trains finishing in Grand Canal Dock.

Google it , there's and a good Irish Times article about that I can't post as I am a new user.

MSVforever · 07-10-2018 6:40am

Does anybody know whether the apartments on the right hand side of the estate are private or social housing?

It's very impressive how fast Cairns are building the houses in Shackleton.
I wish CT would have the same pace in St. Helen's. ...... instead there is delay after delay... (

conserbia · 07-10-2018 4:28pm

The new rule is that 10% of all new builds are sold to the council at cost for social houses. In this instance as none of the apartments seem to be up for sale I can only assume that they have all been sold to the council and will become social houses.
I really hope this isint the case. I emailed Cairn about it months ago but never got a reply.
We saved for 4 years to buy our house and bought in shakelton as lucan seemed to be a nice area but had I know that someone potentially get a free house I would have bought in a more well established area of lucan. My major gripe at the moment is the absolute lack of parking...everyone is having to dump their cars on the footpath. There needs to be an overflow car park for visitors, it is going to look awful when its completed with even more cars.

paulclancy · 09-10-2018 7:03pm

No apartments have been up for sale, the reason for this is that every apartment in Shakelton has been sold to the council for social housing.
It's been kept very quiet by Cairn(the builders) and Hook and McDonald (the estate agents) as they know it will affect the interest in Shakelton Park.

Its a disgrace really that people like myself and others in Shakelton have worked so hard to buy in a nice area only for 60 odd apartments to be given away right in the middle of Shakelton.

Without painting everyone with the same brush, you can imagine how this will affect the area!

Swissraymond · 09-10-2018 10:23pm

paulclancy wrote: »

No apartments have been up for sale, the reason for this is that every apartment in Shakelton has been sold to the council for social housing.
It's been kept very quiet by Cairn(the builders) and Hook and McDonald (the estate agents) as they know it will affect the interest in Shakelton Park.

Its a disgrace really that people like myself and others in Shakelton have worked so hard to buy in a nice area only for 60 odd apartments to be given away right in the middle of Shakelton.

Without painting everyone with the same brush, you can imagine how this will affect the area!

Do you have any documentation or a credible source to back up what you have posted ?

Sounds to me like neighbourhood gossip!

Sekaov2511 · 16-10-2018 12:08pm

Just thought it might be a good idea to give all new buyers the heads up. Shackleton Hall is all been given to the council for social housing, It is not segregated through the estate as per our contracts!

xalot · 16-10-2018 1:50pm

For those unaware, Shackleton Hall is the large apt. block in the center of the estate. It's got 60 units.

09_09_09 · 17-10-2018 7:33am

paulclancy wrote: »

No apartments have been up for sale, the reason for this is that every apartment in Shakelton has been sold to the council for social housing.
It's been kept very quiet by Cairn(the builders) and Hook and McDonald (the estate agents) as they know it will affect the interest in Shakelton Park.

Its a disgrace really that people like myself and others in Shakelton have worked so hard to buy in a nice area only for 60 odd apartments to be given away right in the middle of Shakelton.

Without painting everyone with the same brush, you can imagine how this will affect the area!

Well done, you were spot on, sir/madam!

Have Cairns sold out everything in Shackleton yet? I noticed they have allocated their quota for new development called Airlie (sp??) to this development.

The_Conductor · 17-10-2018 8:05am

That sounds like a recipe for disaster- the whole point was that the social housing units were supposed to be dispersed throughout the development?

flachi · 17-10-2018 12:32pm

Where are you getting the information about the social housing? The part V gives 10% of the development to the council and I think thats approx 54 properties in shackleton. The apartment block of 60 would cover part V but if its all the apartments/duplexes in Shackleton then its over 200 properties.

8090xl · 17-10-2018 2:05pm

It's not all the apartments - apparently it's 60 units.

In every new development there’s a quota of social housing which has to be met. So, in every new development there’ll be a certain amount of social houses somewhere.

In Shackleton, that’s not different and apparently the quota they’ve agreed on meeting, was in a number of apartments for social housing (not all of the apartments), but this is something you should bear in mind when buying in a new development. All will have social housing, no matter where you buy.

It’s also not so good to assume that social housing is bad or a disaster. In some new developments, most social housing was given to elderly people, for example. Of course, there’s always a chance that a not so nice person ends up there as well, but you could get that person as a neighbour anywhere, no matter where you buy.

In the end, it’s up to each resident, to do their bit to make it a nice neighbourhood to live in, no matter where you live.

Lily1122 · 17-10-2018 3:32pm

8090xl wrote: »

It's not all the apartments - apparently it's 60 units.

In every new development there’s a quota of social housing which has to be met. So, in every new development there’ll be a certain amount of social houses somewhere.

In Shackleton, that’s not different and apparently the quota they’ve agreed on meeting, was in a number of apartments for social housing (not all of the apartments), but this is something you should bear in mind when buying in a new development. All will have social housing, no matter where you buy.

It’s also not so good to assume that social housing is bad or a disaster. In some new developments, most social housing was given to elderly people, for example. Of course, there’s always a chance that a not so nice person ends up there as well, but you could get that person as a neighbour anywhere, no matter where you buy.

In the end, it’s up to each resident, to do their bit to make it a nice neighbourhood to live in, no matter where you live.

It is all of the apartments in Shackleton hall (the big apartment block in the middle of shackleton) this has been confirmed by someone from Cairn.
The problem with this is that the social housing is concentrated on one spot and not evenly distributed throughout the estate.

Daisy78 · 17-10-2018 8:14pm

8090xl wrote: »

It's not all the apartments - apparently it's 60 units.

In every new development there’s a quota of social housing which has to be met. So, in every new development there’ll be a certain amount of social houses somewhere.

In Shackleton, that’s not different and apparently the quota they’ve agreed on meeting, was in a number of apartments for social housing (not all of the apartments), but this is something you should bear in mind when buying in a new development. All will have social housing, no matter where you buy.
.

I’m amazed that people are not aware of this, it has been planning policy for the last ten to fifteen years. It used to be a mix of social and affordable housing but the recession put paid to the affordable housing requirement.

The_Conductor · 18-10-2018 6:34am

Daisy78 wrote: »

I’m amazed that people are not aware of this, it has been planning policy for the last ten to fifteen years. It used to be a mix of social and affordable housing but the recession put paid to the affordable housing requirement.

Policy is to disperse the units throughout a development- most certainly not to create a ghetto of units all in the one location.

flachi · 25-10-2018 4:27pm

Can anybody that is living in Shackleton Park tell me what the traffic is like trying to get onto the N4 towards Dublin in the mornings? When you tell people your buying in Lucan their first response is always 'but the traffic'.

Dr.Winston O'Boogie · 25-10-2018 4:36pm

flachi wrote: »

Can anybody that is living in Shackleton Park tell me what the traffic is like trying to get onto the N4 towards Dublin in the mornings? When you tell people your buying in Lucan their first response is always 'but the traffic'.

Depends what time you would be leaving at. From 7.30 onwards the Newcastle road that goes by Supervalu and onto the N4 can be busy enough, its probably better to bypass that road and get onto the N4 further down at woodies.

I leave just before 7.30 and get onto the N4 handily enough down the newcastle road, but I find even ten minutes later and you could be in traffic for a bit.

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 25-10-2018 5:09pm

xalot wrote: »

For those unaware, Shackleton Hall is the large apt. block in the center of the estate. It's got 60 units.

A friend of mine of mine was up there yesterday and spoke with one of the builders on site.It's not just Shackleton Hall 60 units but also Shackleton Mall
apartment/duplexes that are going to be Social units .

Shackleton Mall is the so called flagship 2 apartment blocks on the junction
of Tandy's Court and Shackleton Drive.I can understand the 60 units concentrated
n the middle of the development but to have 2 Social blocks and the entrance
of the estate is pure madness ,it goes against all proper planning rules and bypasses the percentage allowed in each estate.

The loophole that was closed that allowed developers transfer a portion of social welfare units to another - reopened another loophole that allowed them to transfer a disproportionate amount of social units to the Council as well as
money.....This was agreed a few year back by a certain Labour TD

flachi · 25-10-2018 7:09pm

Hadleigh Rich Plantation wrote: »

A friend of mine of mine was up there yesterday and spoke with one of the builders on site.It's not just Shackleton Hall 60 units but also Shackleton Mall
apartment/duplexes that are going to be Social units .

Shackleton Mall is the so called flagship 2 apartment blocks on the junction
of Tandy's Court and Shackleton Drive.I can understand the 60 units concentrated
n the middle of the development but to have 2 Social blocks and the entrance
of the estate is pure madness ,it goes against all proper planning rules and bypasses the percentage allowed in each estate.

The loophole that was closed that allowed developers transfer a portion of social welfare units to another - reopened another loophole that allowed them to transfer a disproportionate amount of social units to the Council as well as
money.....This was agreed a few year back by a certain Labour TD

The apartments at the entrance are highlighted as part V in the original planning application but the 60 apartments in the centre are not. So it looks like Cairn will use apartments in Shackleton to meet its part V obligation in the new development across from Shackleton (I think it will be called Gandon park).

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 25-10-2018 8:55pm

Really don't see the advantage of that to cairn. Three blocks of social housing across the road is still going to impact interest in the homes. And before the pc brigade get up on their high horses im sure most social housing tenants are grand, but there are a high proportion who are not.

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 25-10-2018 9:49pm

flachi wrote: »

The apartments at the entrance are highlighted as part V in the original planning application but the 60 apartments in the centre are not. So it looks like Cairn will use apartments in Shackleton to meet its part V obligation in the new development across from Shackleton (I think it will be called Gandon park).

Part V just means the developer holds onto the apartments but can only rent
to the Council for social housing and not directly themselves.

Leasehold for apartments in Ireland are up to 999 years meaning the apartments can be used for social housing for that time and that the developer cannot sell them on the open market.

Large concentrations of Social units factually leads to ghettoization.Families that have bought there need to call a meeting with Cairn Homes and get confirmation
of the number of Social apartments that have been allocated.

conserbia · 29-10-2018 1:54am

I also spoke with the foreman on site to confirm that both shakelton hall and shakelton mall were all left for social housing only and none were to be sold on the market.
It seems Cairn have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes here...they are selling all the houses quick before finishing off the apartments. They are effectively building a mini 'ballymun type flats' in the middle of shakelton.
We all paid betweek â‚¬330k and â‚¬380k for these houses in such a "great area" but unfortunately the price of these houses will surely drop when the apartments become full and the anti social behaviour starts (im not painting everyone with the same brush..but it only takes a small percentage of bad eggs to ruin an area).
With further plans for the likes of Cairn to build 2000/3000 houses between shakelton and adamstown train station this means a further 200/300 social houses in the area to add to these social apartments. I regret not buying in a more settled area.
P.s. cairns email address <snip> if you would like to voice your concerns, they will only listen if they receive enough complaints!

flachi · 29-10-2018 4:30pm

Cairn confirmed there will be 110 apartments for social housing in Shackleton Park and Gandon Park. That is 10% of the total units in the two developments. The majority will clearly be in Shackleton.

Rachel1978 · 29-10-2018 7:30pm

WOW that is quite a lot of social apartments in such close proximity. I am glad I came on to boards to read up on Shakelton Park as I have been very interested in this estate and am currently in talks re a mortgage - looks like ill have to re think any purchase.

I looked at an overall map of what this side of Lucan will look like when they have built all these houses - there is to be another circa 2,000 houses to be built stretching all the way to Adamstown railway station. Unfortunately, that only means one more thing...more social apartment blocks. What happens when these people get older and the anti social behaviour starts? What happens to the price of houses in the area of the hard working people who paid top price for their home and now cant sell due to the small minority bringing the name down?

Anyway rant over...thank you all for your comments and it just goes to show that you need to find out about everything in the area before living there. Councillors and politicians seem to always focus on how we need to give houses to the poor...they always seem to forget about the middle class and how much we need houses and how unfair it is to drop a social housing apartment in the middle of your estate after you worked so hard to buy your lovely home.

barry1988 · 06-11-2018 9:00pm

The whole point of the 10% rule is to integrate social housing recipients into an area. The last thing you want to do is segregate the social houses in one area and create a 'no-go area' or 'ghetto' in the estate. It completly goes against the idea of the 10% rule.

Why cant we learn from the past. Okay the Ballymun flats were on a larger scale but what Cairn Homes are doing here is the same just on a smaller scale by building two large apartment blocks - one at the entrance and one in the middle of Shakelton Park and housing all the social recipients in them. This is NOT integration - this is segregation and WILL lead to problems in the area.

I urge the residents of Shakelton Park to get on to Cairn Homes, the local councillors and local papers and attend the residents meetings and speak with your neighbours to air your concerns. If we allow this to happen then our lovely estate and the price of ours houses will be affected.

They havent finished building the apartments and the second part of the estate so if residents can take an interest in this issue and do it quickly we can do something about it!!

conserbia · 06-11-2018 11:37pm

The apartments beside the entrance to Shakelton Park are to be leased to the county council long term from Cairn Homes. Tbh this probably creates more problems as you then have different people coming and going the whole time and history has shown that they have even less respect for the area or the people around them.

My partner's brother bought a house beside a similar new development in Kildare where most of the apartments were leased, the council moved in two travelling families along with what seem to be down and outs. Within 2 months the place was a kip, a new estate now had a mattress at the entrance and with that went up the for sale signs and the inevitable drop in house prices.

Developers have little of no care for how an area turns out - thats why they are selling all the houses before finishing off the apartments - otherwise they wouldnt be able to demand the high price on these houses.

I agree with Barry - people need to attend the upcoming residents meetings but also email Cairn Homes and the local politicians as its everyone's future at stake

Dr.Winston O'Boogie · 07-11-2018 10:10am

conserbia wrote: »

The apartments beside the entrance to Shakelton Park are to be leased to the county council long term from Cairn Homes. Tbh this probably creates more problems as you then have different people coming and going the whole time and history has shown that they have even less respect for the area or the people around them.

My partner's brother bought a house beside a similar new development in Kildare where most of the apartments were leased, the council moved in two travelling families along with what seem to be down and outs. Within 2 months the place was a kip, a new estate now had a mattress at the entrance and with that went up the for sale signs and the inevitable drop in house prices.

Developers have little of no care for how an area turns out - thats why they are selling all the houses before finishing off the apartments - otherwise they wouldnt be able to demand the high price on these houses.

I agree with Barry - people need to attend the upcoming residents meetings but also email Cairn Homes and the local politicians as its everyone's future at stake

This is incorrect as far as I am aware, they are to be managed by a private housing company. I have heard of some mismanagement by councils in this respect but generally private housing companies have 0 tolerance approaches and there are far less problems.

paulclancy · 07-11-2018 1:59pm

Dr Winston O'Boogie - you either work for Cairn Homes or have heard incorrectly.

I know close friends who are stuck with rented social accom beside them - have complained numerous times to the management company as their neighbours are playing music until 3am during the week and causing absolute havoc in the area - and Surprise Surprise they get nowhere with the management company and the neighbours are still there. Its the council who decide who goes into the rented accom and the council hire the management company to deal with the complaints.

To say the management companies have Zero tolerance is completely inaccurate. If Cairn Homes are allowed to create this ghetto and not spread out the social housing properly and have everyone integrated correctly in the area then expect no different to what is happening in other areas around the country.

Graham · 07-11-2018 2:43pm

It is probably safe to assume that different management companies have different levels of tolerance.

MSVforever · 07-11-2018 6:59pm

Rachel1978 wrote: »

WOW that is quite a lot of social apartments in such close proximity. I am glad I came on to boards to read up on Shakelton Park as I have been very interested in this estate and am currently in talks re a mortgage - looks like ill have to re think any purchase.

I looked at an overall map of what this side of Lucan will look like when they have built all these houses - there is to be another circa 2,000 houses to be built stretching all the way to Adamstown railway station. Unfortunately, that only means one more thing...more social apartment blocks. What happens when these people get older and the anti social behaviour starts? What happens to the price of houses in the area of the hard working people who paid top price for their home and now cant sell due to the small minority bringing the name down?

Anyway rant over...thank you all for your comments and it just goes to show that you need to find out about everything in the area before living there. Councillors and politicians seem to always focus on how we need to give houses to the poor...they always seem to forget about the middle class and how much we need houses and how unfair it is to drop a social housing apartment in the middle of your estate after you worked so hard to buy your lovely home.

Hi Rachel,

Can you pm me a link of this map please as we are currently in the process of buying a new house in Adamstown?

I heard that there's going to be a mix of social / affordable housing in the space between St. Helen's and Alderlie. I personally would have no issues with social housing as long as tenants are properly vetted.

I sincerely hope that everything goes well for these folks who bought in Shackleton Park and the place won't end up like parts in Castlecurragh (Dublin 15).

paulclancy · 08-11-2018 12:40am

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Graham · 08-11-2018 12:50pm

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paulclancy, this is not the appropriate platform for you to use to make accusations against any individuals or organisations.

No more posts of that type please.

paulclancy · 08-11-2018 2:56pm

Apologies if i caused any offence in my recent post - it was borne out of frustration over the lack of planning/greed that has come from thi sdevelopment and the lies that the residents have been told.

MSV - if you type into google 'adamstown masterplan' and then click on image you will see what the landscape will look like from Shakelton to Adamstown. Only about 1/8 has been completed to date.

My point about vetting is this - NO construction company has any say on who moves into the social housing. If they claim that they do then its a lie. The county council will usually put in the next in line regardless of their background/or where they are from.

Also, the construction company CANNOT decide to put in affordable housing either - the units are sold to the county council at cost and it is then their property and they decide who goes in them - if you are told that a lot of the units will be held for affordable housing this is also a lie.

The ONLY good outcome that can come out of Shakelton at this late stage is that the construction company spread the social housing out fairly throughout the rest of the development and not segregate everyone into the high rise flats at the entrance and in the middle of the estate. This just might keep a lid on the potential anti social havoc that is coming down the line.

MSVforever · 08-11-2018 9:23pm

paulclancy wrote: »

Apologies if i caused any offence in my recent post - it was borne out of frustration over the lack of planning/greed that has come from thi sdevelopment and the lies that the residents have been told.

MSV - if you type into google 'adamstown masterplan' and then click on image you will see what the landscape will look like from Shakelton to Adamstown. Only about 1/8 has been completed to date.

My point about vetting is this - NO construction company has any say on who moves into the social housing. If they claim that they do then its a lie. The county council will usually put in the next in line regardless of their background/or where they are from.

Also, the construction company CANNOT decide to put in affordable housing either - the units are sold to the county council at cost and it is then their property and they decide who goes in them - if you are told that a lot of the units will be held for affordable housing this is also a lie.

The ONLY good outcome that can come out of Shakelton at this late stage is that the construction company spread the social housing out fairly throughout the rest of the development and not segregate everyone into the high rise flats at the entrance and in the middle of the estate. This just might keep a lid on the potential anti social havoc that is coming down the line.

Thanks paulclancy.
I doubt that all the units / estates will be built as per the masterplan.

Unfortunately most of those developers and their estate agents are lying through their teeth. I have never heard so much bs in my life..... I'm glad once we get the keys to our new home and never have to deal with them again.... The majority of our new neighbours feel the same.

Apart from this I'm concerned about the lack of infrastructure in Adamstown.
There is only one londis shop and a mediocre takeaway. No surgeries, dentists and pharmacies etc.
Furthermore there is only one crèche and both primary schools are already heavily oversubscribed..... when will they start building additional schools and shopping facilities across the train station.....?

paulclancy · 09-11-2018 12:11am

MSVforever wrote: »

Thanks paulclancy.
I doubt that all the units / estates will be built as per the masterplan.

Unfortunately most of those developers and their estate agents are lying through their teeth. I have never heard so much bs in my life..... I'm glad once we get the keys to our new home and never have to deal with them again.... The majority of our new neighbours feel the same.

Apart from this I'm concerned about the lack of infrastructure in Adamstown.
There is only one londis shop and a mediocre takeaway. No surgeries, dentists and pharmacies etc.
Furthermore there is only one crèche and both primary schools are already heavily oversubscribed..... when will they start building additional schools and shopping facilities across the train station.....?

The developers hire good sales people to sell the houses and they will promise you the moon and the stars if it means you sign on the dotted line, once the house is sold then you are no longer their problem and whatever they have been allowed get away with will stay in the estate permanently.

If you go into sdcc planning applications and search the interactive map you will see that most of the land from shakelton to adamstown has been granted planning permission for houses and apartments.
There is a site below the paddocks which has no planning permission that would be perfect for a large sports centre or astro park etc which is much needed in the area, especially given that there will be another few thousand houses built and it wud give the youth something to do...but ive no doubt it will go for more houses instead. The local councillors need to be pushed on this issue.

In the masterplan there are schools but in reality they are unlikely to be built as the construction companies arent going to do it.

5uspect · 09-11-2018 12:59am

Why do you keep spelling Shackleton as shakelton? Eleven times on the last page alone.

Dr.Winston O'Boogie · 09-11-2018 6:12pm

5uspect wrote: »

Why do you keep spelling Shackleton as shakelton? Eleven times on the last page alone.

Very strange for a supposed resident of the estate

supernova12 · 12-11-2018 5:05pm

Hi Guys,

I am new to the thread. I gave a full read and right now a bit confused whether to go ahead with one of the houses in Shackleton Park. This is because of the social housing concerns. The property should still be relevant few years down the line.

Do you guys have any suggestions regarding this.

Regards.

paulclancy · 12-11-2018 7:34pm

supernova12 wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I am new to the thread. I gave a full read and right now a bit confused whether to go ahead with one of the houses in Shackleton Park. This is because of the social housing concerns. The property should still be relevant few years down the line.

Do you guys have any suggestions regarding this.

Regards.

Supernova 12....it is a personal choice and comes down funds and whether you want a new house etc.

If you buy a new build then you get the advantages that a new sttucture brings but there will be 10% of that estate that will be council housing. Most of estates being built now are kept to houses only and every 10th house is sold to the council and its well spread out as this was FG's plan when they brought in the new rule.

As you would have read from the previous threads the real problem isint the 10% rule its the fact that the builders built 60 council flats slap bang in the middle and a further 8 at the entrance to the estate and hasnt integrated the social recipients into the estate. Make up your own mind how that will play out down the line.

Best advice is to go up and visit the area, take a walk around and see if its for you. Its not all bad the majority of people who moved in our young professionals and all are hard working people who dont cause an ounce of problems.

Regardless of where you buy just remember that the estate agent and developer are there to make money so they will tell you what you want to hear if it means getting you to part with your cash so best to take what they say with a pinch of salt and take your time when deciding.

Id be happy to answer any further questions you have and you are welcome to call into me for a proper chat if you decide to visit. Just send me a PM.

Hope this helps but at the end of the day the decision is yours to make.

09_09_09 · 07-12-2018 12:57pm

Any useful update on social housing issue?

Shackleton Park, Lucan

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