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Bond 23 - "Skyfall" *spoilers from post 595*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    You referring to Ola Rapace ,best known for being in the Wallander series? I assumed that the poster was referring to Javia Bardem's character in the film who seems to be the main villain.

    Yes I was referring to Rapace. But Bardem looks like a Miami vice villain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    He looks quite like Taylor Negron and reminded me a lot of his character in The Last Boy Scout.

    That's the chap !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Sivousplait


    Taylor Negron, what a hero!

    I'm really looking forward to this Bond.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    Taylor Negron, what a hero!

    I'm really looking forward to this Bond.

    Reviews are in, overwhelmingly positive.

    http://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2012/10/13/skyfall-review


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭pah


    Getting excited about this!

    Good review, no spoilers really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Great to hear. i read in one review today that Daniel Craig basically owns the part now after his performance and should be allowed to carry on as long as he wants after his latest performance in Skyfall. Delighted for him personally and the franchise after a superb debut in Casino royale and a great but perhaps misunderstood performance in quantum that he may have finally overcome the remaining minority of doubters.

    also i heard Javier Bardem is awesome in it aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    ricero wrote: »
    Great to hear. i read in one review today that Daniel Craig basically owns the part now after his performance and should be allowed to carry on as long as he wants after his latest performance in Skyfall. Delighted for him personally and the franchise after a superb debut in Casino royale and a great but perhaps misunderstood performance in quantum that he may have finally overcome the remaining minority of doubters.

    also i heard Javier Bardem is awesome in it aswell

    I dont want to rain on the parade but I dont think Craig will ever own the part .
    From what I saw in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace he isnt James Bond.
    I know he can act ,he has shown that in the past ,he just seems to be trying too hard as Bond ,it seems forced and unnatural.
    Hopefully he has got the balance between brute and charm right in this film ,he badly needs to learn how to deliver a one liner .

    From the early reviews ,the film looks good and the makers have got the balance between the classic Bond and the newer Bond better than in the last few films.
    The pacing is much better too with an actual plot instead of just a sequence of action scenes like in Qos.

    I sat down a few nights this week and was watching the new Bond channel on Sky Movies and I found myself glued to the screen.I watched Licence to Kill,The Spy who Loved Me,For Your Eyes Only,A View to a Kill and Goldfinger,thoroughly enjoyed them all and enjoyed the charm so badly missing from the last 2 Bond movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Have they wrapped up everything from Casino Royale & QoS ? I thought they were planned as part of a trilogy ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    OU812 wrote: »
    Have they wrapped up everything from Casino Royale & QoS ? I thought they were planned as part of a trilogy ?

    Pretty sure this is a standalone film. Any plans for a trilogy or a continuation of the Quantum storyline were probably abandoned after QoS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    I dont want to rain on the parade but I dont think Craig will ever own the part .
    From what I saw in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace he isnt James Bond.
    I know he can act ,he has shown that in the past ,he just seems to be trying too hard as Bond ,it seems forced and unnatural.
    Hopefully he has got the balance between brute and charm right in this film ,he badly needs to learn how to deliver a one liner .

    From the early reviews ,the film looks good and the makers have got the balance between the classic Bond and the newer Bond better than in the last few films.
    The pacing is much better too with an actual plot instead of just a sequence of action scenes like in Qos.

    I sat down a few nights this week and was watching the new Bond channel on Sky Movies and I found myself glued to the screen.I watched Licence to Kill,The Spy who Loved Me,For Your Eyes Only,A View to a Kill and Goldfinger,thoroughly enjoyed them all and enjoyed the charm so badly missing from the last 2 Bond movies.

    I am a Craig fan and I thought he was great as Bond in CR and QOS. Very similar to Bond of the books. The reviews that I have been reading for Skyfall praise his performance. I would wait and see how he does in Skyfall and then maybe see what you think.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭nipps


    i saw that a few papers were saying that heineken bought rights and that bond is drinking heineken instead of the classic dry martini in the new film. i hope this isnt true...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    nipps wrote: »
    i saw that a few papers were saying that heineken bought rights and that bond is drinking heineken instead of the classic dry martini in the new film. i hope this isnt true...

    Well Craig stars in a bond-related advert for the beer, and given how much Bond films love to shill for companies, I wouldn't be surprised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    Heineken makes two appearances in the film apparently. Bond does order the martini in Skyfall also from what I am told. I also read that Heineken paid 14 million for the product placement....easy money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Paudie223 wrote: »
    Heineken makes two appearances in the film apparently. Bond does order the martini in Skyfall also from what I am told. I also read that Heineken paid 14 million for the product placement....easy money.
    It was 35m euro they paid ,huge money .
    With all the other product tie ins I'd say they paid for most of the film.
    The budget is listed as $200m on IMDB but I dont think its anywhere near that high as the initial budget was drastically cut.
    Turkey is the sole foreign location and the rest of the film was shot in the UK with Bognor Regis doubling for foreign beaches .

    Btw happy birthday Roger Moore ,who was 85 yesterday .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Hope Bond has a beer gut for the sake of realism. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Absolutely brilliant Bond song. Have listened to it about 5 times today, then proceeded to listen to all the Bond themes again on youtube....then listened to the Living Daylights OST while going to the park and now watching Bond documentary's on youtube. My bond day has been a success. If UTV aren't going to show a Bond movie, I'll make my own night of it!

    I thought it was a bit meh to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Boo Radley wrote: »
    International Trailer:

    Looks as bollocks as the last one tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Joekers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Just saw it at an advanced screening in the Savoy and I thought it was pretty good, up the with the best Bond films. Lots of little throwbacks and references to its predecessors all done with good humor, but a serious tone overall. Javier Bardem is the best bond villain in a long while and Judy Dench was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.

    I like parts of QoS, the oening 20 minutes are great, the opera scene is excellent, it just suffers from a poor villain, pity they've supposedly abandoned the Quantum storyline as it wasnt fully resolved in QoS. Its the first proper Bond sequel as well isnt it? I liked how it carries on literally straight after CR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    sink wrote: »
    Lots of little throwbacks and references to its predecessors all done with good humor, but a serious tone overall.
    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.

    But how will you know it's a Bond movie if he doesn't order a certain drink and introduce himself in a certain way?

    :pac:

    Honestly I agree with you. These nods can take you straight out of the movie if they are relentlessly thrown in your face.

    However, there are times when these nods can be useful. For example, at the end of Casino Royale, when we hear 'Bond... James Bond', it serves to illustrate that he is now the character we have known before, his growth is complete... or it was until QoS. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.

    They can have the Bond staples in there without them seeming forced, Casino Royale did it well, it seemed more tacked on in QoS. If you keep throwing in nudge nudge gags refering to the other movies its descending into parody again like Die Another Day, which had tons of them. I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies recently, TND is better than I remember it, just the villain is piss poor, but it has some great setpieces, the bike chase over the buildings being a standout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Otacon wrote: »
    But how will you know it's a Bond movie if he doesn't order a certain drink and introduce himself in a certain way?

    :pac:

    Honestly I agree with you. These nods can take you straight out of the movie if they are relentlessly thrown in your face.

    However, there are times when these nods can be useful. For example, at the end of Casino Royale, when we hear 'Bond... James Bond', it serves to illustrate that he is now the character we have known before, his growth is complete... or it was until QoS. :mad:

    'Bond...James Bond', I can accept. I even think they did a brilliant job of it in CR.
    But QoS...the women and the oil......


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,392 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    krudler wrote: »
    They can have the Bond staples in there without them seeming forced, Casino Royale did it well, it seemed more tacked on in QoS. If you keep throwing in nudge nudge gags refering to the other movies its descending into parody again like Die Another Day, which had tons of them. I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies recently, TND is better than I remember it, just the villain is piss poor, but it has some great setpieces, the bike chase over the buildings being a standout.

    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.

    Have to disagree. Star Trek was one of the worst offenders of this decade.


  • Site Banned Posts: 69 ✭✭greecy_joe


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.

    i thought the same , the villian was still the worst bond has ever faced however , a little french squirt


  • Site Banned Posts: 69 ✭✭greecy_joe


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.

    best bond girl ever , get off the stage , she,s not even in the top fifteen for my money , she was the best of brosnans bond girls , not that that would be hard


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I believe who you think to be the best Bond girl depends on what Bond films you saw as a teenager - that'll tend to colour your opinion a little ;)


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,392 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    TBH I don't mean best as in sexiest and I'm probably basing my opinion of her more on her performances in Supercop and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭argentum


    Had the pleasure in meeting Samatha Bond (moneypenny) the other evening.She was in the o2 for Jesus Christ Superstar watching her husband it it.I grew up with lois maxwell as moneypenny and never liked her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Decking Rick O'Shea twittering today about how disappointed he was with it. I want to see it without preformed opinions. Bad form or a self confessed film fan to do.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    OU812 wrote: »
    Decking Rick O'Shea twittering today about how disappointed he was with it. I want to see it without preformed opinions. Bad form or a self confessed film fan to do.

    To be fair if you want to go without preformed opinions then you should simply avoid the Internet and media entirely before a big film gets released. Of course people are going to be talking about whether they liked the film or not - cannot possibly see how it's bad form to do so, unless it's a spoilerific tweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    He went into great detail about how full of plot holes & how bad it was spread across four tweets. I've turned off every possible connection I could with my various news feeds, have only watched one trailer & avoided every print article I could. I couldn't have done much more

    I didn't even watch the music video in case it gave anything away


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I remember people were speaking of Halle berry as the best Bond girl. They even thought she should get a spin off. Such nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭JohnP199


    Special Charity Screening of SKYFALL™

    A special charity screening of the new James Bond film, SKYFALL™ will take place in the Savoy Cinema, Dublin on October 24th, in aid of two Irish charities, LARCC Cancer Support Centre and the Irish Cinema Benevolent Fund.

    Tickets for this special screening are €50 and include a goody bag and a post film Heineken drinks reception in Lillie’s Bordello.

    SKYFALL™ will be released in Ireland and internationally from 26th October 2012 by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios and Sony Pictures Releasing.

    Daniel Craig is back as Ian Fleming’s James Bond 007 in SKYFALL™, the 23rd adventure of the longest-running film franchise of all time. In Skyfall, Bond’s loyalty to M is tested as her past comes back to haunt her. As M16 comes under attack, 007 must track down and destroy the threat, no matter how personal the cost. The film is from Albert R. Broccoli’s EON Productions, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, and Sony Pictures Entertainment. Directed by Sam Mendes. Produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. Written by Neal Purvis & Robert Wade and John Logan.

    The film stars Daniel Craig, Judi Dench, Javier Bardem, Ralph Fiennes, Naomie Harris, Bérénice Marlohe, Albert Finney and Ben Whishaw.

    Event: Special Charity Screening of SKYFALL™

    Date: Wednesday, October 24th 2012

    Time: 7.30pm

    Venue: The Savoy Cinema, O’Connell Street, Dublin 1

    To buy tickets, please phone 01 6761062 or email Tickets@Presence.ie

    Anyone going to this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    For me Eva Green has been the best Bond Girl to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    JohnP199 wrote: »

    Anyone going to this?

    I am, got my tickets last week! Looking forward to it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭JohnP199


    Paudie223 wrote: »
    I am, got my tickets last week! Looking forward to it!

    Think I might as well. Are people suiting up for it do you know?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    JohnP199 wrote: »

    Think I might as well. Are people suiting up for it do you know?

    I asked the lady in the office and she said that its not strictly formal but people will more than likely be dressing up. I was at one of these before and people were suited up. There is a prize of a bottle of Bollinger for the best dressed man and woman. I'm going with 3 of the lads and we are suiting up. Not black tie but suits. Should be good fun, Bond is always the highlight of my cinema year. My understanding was that it was sold out but I am not sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    OU812 wrote: »
    He went into great detail about how full of plot holes & how bad it was spread across four tweets. I've turned off every possible connection I could with my various news feeds, have only watched one trailer & avoided every print article I could. I couldn't have done much more

    I didn't even watch the music video in case it gave anything away

    So you're reading the Skyfall thread why???
    JohnP199 wrote: »
    Think I might as well. Are people suiting up for it do you know?

    At the media screening there was only 2-3 suited up for it and they stood out and looked a bit silly as a result, each to their own though.

    I had to laugh at the posters in the Savoy stating "You have a license to tweet #skyfall" and they then proceeded to check in everyones phone. Then they had the weather guy from TV3 plead with people to stay off twitter and the likes so as not to spoil it for others. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    For me Eva Green has been the best Bond Girl to date.

    She's well up there in the best of them, is there for actual plot advancement instead of eye candy (even though she's that too)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.

    Sure why does he even have to be called James Bond. Why not name him Jerry Bondson , have him drink pink gins with no ice, and drive a Jaguar XKS. Oh and have him shoot a Makarov M3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    syklops wrote: »
    Sure why does he even have to be called James Bond. Why not name him Jerry Bondson , have him drink pink gins with no ice, and drive a Jaguar XKS. Oh and have him shoot a Makarov M3.
    His name, drink and gun are continuities.

    Drowning a woman in oil to mimic the drowning of a woman in gold is just irritating. He should have spent more time making an original Bond movie, and not a new Bond movie paying homage to scenes from old movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭pah


    Just spotted Gerald butler with a one liner in tomorrow never dies!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭Alexidium


    I am a big fan of the James Bond movies. I can't wait to see if Skyfall will replace Casino Royale as my favorite James Bond film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    For me Eva Green has been the best Bond Girl to date.

    Really? I don't get it, she was probably one of the most wimpy in my opinion.

    There has been way better Bond girls down through the decades.

    For me Barbara Carrera 'Never Say Never Again' was one totally hot kick ass piece of crazy! :pac:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭403 Forbidden


    wrote:
    Special Charity Screening of SKYFALL™

    A special charity screening of the new James Bond film, SKYFALL™ will take place in the Savoy Cinema, Dublin on October 24th, in aid of two Irish charities, LARCC Cancer Support Centre and the Irish Cinema Benevolent Fund.

    Tickets for this special screening are €50 and include a goody bag and a post film Heineken drinks reception in Lillie’s Bordello.

    SKYFALL™ will be released in Ireland and internationally from 26th October 2012 by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios and Sony Pictures Releasing.

    Daniel Craig is back as Ian Fleming’s James Bond 007 in SKYFALL™, the 23rd adventure of the longest-running film franchise of all time. In Skyfall, Bond’s loyalty to M is tested as her past comes back to haunt her. As M16 comes under attack, 007 must track down and destroy the threat, no matter how personal the cost. The film is from Albert R. Broccoli’s EON Productions, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios, and Sony Pictures Entertainment. Directed by Sam Mendes. Produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. Written by Neal Purvis & Robert Wade and John Logan.

    The film stars Daniel Craig, Judi Dench, Javier Bardem, Ralph Fiennes, Naomie Harris, Bérénice Marlohe, Albert Finney and Ben Whishaw.

    Event: Special Charity Screening of SKYFALL™

    Date: Wednesday, October 24th 2012

    Time: 7.30pm

    Venue: The Savoy Cinema, O’Connell Street, Dublin 1

    To buy tickets, please phone 01 6761062 or email Tickets@Presence.ie

    Anyone know if any Celebrities are going ?


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