Dublin routes news and general chat

Big fan of Austin - Few huge companies like Dell and Indeed in Ireland are HQ'd there so there'd be some business demand for that sort route.


Does anyone know wdc with Ryanair fares not showing up on their website is? Want to fly into Bergamo in January. Ryanair fly twice a day, but at the moment the flights aren't showing on their website.

A321 XLR range 4700 nm

Dub-Austin distance 4022 nm

Does the 321XLR have crew rest facilities? If not the range will be limited by crew duty times.

Locker10a wrote: »

Doubtful, unless they curtain off some of the business class seats

No longer allowed, as per EASA rules if crew are to rest in Business Class the whole J cabin must be empty. EI therefore don't have the intention to use the XLR's for routes that require crew rest.

https://www.ittn.ie/news/cathay-pacific-to-suspend-flights-from-dublin/

Cathay Pacific suspending flights?

That would leave us with no far east direct route (at least for the winter but I think we all know it's thin end of the wedge most probably)? Not good at all. It would mean the far east has effectively failed as a market from Dublin.

It will also discourage everyone else taking up the slack.

Niall Gibbons only last month

Gibbons said Tourism Ireland will continue to “promote the island of Ireland vigorously in China” by highlighting Cathay Pacific’s direct service from Dublin to Hong Kong.

ooops

Numerous reasons this wouldn't work; The Chinese economy is on a severe downward spiral, (Trump's tariffs killing them) coupled with Ireland being incredibly bad value, hotels here are just a total ripoff, bad weather and expensive food and drink plus getting a tourist visa for this country is a bureaucratic nightmare even if you have plenty money, successful career etc.

Hong Kong is in a state of anarchy the last two months, the airport has closed on numerous occasions. Cathay Pacific are not really known about by the Irish expats in Australia and NZ who tend to prefer the ME3. These expats are declining in numbers as many return home, Qatar Airways have also lowered their prices quite a bit on Asian routes compared to say 2-3 years ago, the GCC Boycott of them has caused that airline to up its game.

I hope Cathay relaunch but Ireland - Asia may only be seasonal and marginal at best and I'm sure Cathay will find better ways to earn money from their A350's than Dublin.

I wouldn't read too much into it right now, Cathay are cutting lots of routes over winter due to the impact the HK protests have had on their bottom line.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cathay-pacific-demand/cathay-pacific-to-cut-capacity-as-demand-for-hong-kong-travel-falls-idUSKCN1VW0ZB

The route has performed very well since launch and I would imagine once things have settled down it'll be back to year round. They are also cancelling JFK-YVR which has been running for donkeys years (Although this that's a permanent cancellation)

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

Route to stop in November and will reopen as normal in March.

https://fora.ie/cathay-pacific-suspending-dublin-hong-kong-4805679-Sep2019/

Intended to repoprn in March. Cathay has seen worldwide passenger volumes decease by nearly 40% over the past three months. There are greater systemic challenges at play that the Dublin routes and the daytime European routes which it has suspended.

People need to understand yield versus load factor. There is absolutely no point quoting that a flight was full. Filling a flight with backpackers on discounted fares is not going to make any money. Cathay is full service and has the costs associated with that. It needs high rev up front, belly cargo and yield down the back to turn a profit. It needs to do this across its entire network. Cathay as an airline is suffering financially as part of the wider Swire Group and has been struggling for at least the last 5 years. The current HK unrest is just adding fuel to the fire. I would expect it needs to restructure in order to survive and cut capacity.

Read elsewhere Cathay's forward bookings are down 40% across the network vs this time last year.

Surprised to hear an ad on Radio One's Morning Ireland this morning for Cathay Pacific and offering flights to the east if it's been suspended for the winter.

ongarboy wrote: »

Surprised to hear an ad on Radio One's Morning Ireland this morning for Cathay Pacific and offering flights to the east if it's been suspended for the winter.

Heard it on Today Fm earlier. They're LFs are apparently down across the board with the recent protests so they're probably trying to get any kind of business they can.

Mortelaro wrote: »

By coincidence I booked cx306 yesterday with Avios in J for just next month
That should be the crack

Had the pleasure some years back of going on honeymoon on CX in J to HKG and on to SYD

Only thing that would have made it perfect was going direct from DUB avoiding the hop over to LHR in cattle class.

Noxegon wrote: »

My flight is boarded and ready to go, but we’ve just been given a 1h15 slot delay. The sooner the second runway is ready the better.

Unfortunately it looks like late 2021 or early 2022 before the new runway is in use so another 2 peak summers of delays etc. :mad:

It will be an enroute slot. Nonsense that Cathay will be delayed 1.15 in Dublin due to runway capacity.

Noxegon wrote: »

Hmm, not sure where you got Cathay from.

Was FR to Krakow. The time came forward quite radically fortunately - though we still arrived an hour late

An en-route slot so. Airspace is saturated over central Europe

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-launches-irish-summer-20-schedule-160-routes-on-sale-now/?fbclid=IwAR1qAYanfkYyoQFfArkup9mQS7ProT8mOvzzUIyIyvesyClQP2bbBj_3sRA

4 New Dublin Routes To Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica & Verona
Ryanair, Ireland’s No.1 airline, today (25 Sept) launched its Irish Summer 2020 schedule, with 160 routes in total, including 4 new Dublin routes Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica and Verona, and 3 new summer services from Cork to Katowice and from Dublin to Billund and Toulouse, which will deliver 17.2m customers p.a. and support 12,900* jobs at Dublin, Shannon, Cork, Knock and Kerry airports.

rivegauche wrote: »

I think Stuttgart is gone.

That was dropped in June and replaced with a new service to Milan Malpensa. Capacity on the Cologne route was also increased this winter.

Impressive route network Ryanair has from Dublin now.

kevinandrew wrote: »

Verona, Marseille and Toulouse? Sooner or later Aer Lingus is going to find every one of their short haul routes facing competition from Ryanair. 

Nice to see Palanga, a lot of Lithuanian passengers heading home to the costal cities have been using Kaunas which is a good 2-3 hour drive away.

Ryanair have pulled out or MRS and VRN before (MRS 3+ times) and Aer Lingus have continued.

I really hope JetBlue make a go of things in 2021 when they start flying to london. The largest budget airline in the world i believe ryanair. Dublin perfectly positioned for far more transatlantic business than it currently attracts. The infrastructure is certainly an issue at present. But there are other airports like helsinki, for passengers heading east, that have far more transfer traffic than dublin.

https://skift.com/2019/04/10/jetblue-is-flying-to-europe-breaking-down-the-competition/