The Healy Raes

partyguinness · 06-12-2019 3:54pm

This is going straight to appeal against the sentence.

irishgrover · 06-12-2019 5:03pm

partyguinness wrote: »

This is going straight to appeal against the sentence.

by the convicted for too severe or the DPP for too soft?

liosnagceann75 · 06-12-2019 5:15pm

irishgrover wrote: »

by the convicted for too severe or the DPP for too soft?

The cameras don't lie!

partyguinness · 06-12-2019 5:20pm

irishgrover wrote: »

by the convicted for too severe or the DPP for too soft?

By the convicted for being too severe. May as well.

I suspect the CC may very well agree.

Carbon125 · 06-12-2019 7:15pm

Things could have turned out much worse for the Healy-Raes... For example, if they had not paid their TV license.

liosnagceann75 · 06-12-2019 7:20pm

partyguinness wrote: »

This is going straight to appeal against the sentence.

The judgement is not being appealed. The 3 defendants will now face a civil suit. The civil suit will hit their pockets hard

uck51js9zml2yt · 06-12-2019 7:22pm

How can one of them be found guilty for 2offences and still get a suspended sentence.
Scandalous result!

The Satanist · 06-12-2019 7:35pm

Maren Squeaking Sander wrote: »

How can one of them be found guilty for 2offences and still get a suspended sentence.
Scandalous result!

Because they had no previous convictions, according to the news. I had no idea we operated a free pass for the first offence, ima gonna make good use of mine!

pheasant tail · 06-12-2019 7:37pm

I know it was asked before here but wasn’t answered. Can Jackie keep his councillor job? Or go for the Dail in the future..?

theguzman · 06-12-2019 7:37pm

pheasant tail wrote: »

I know it was asked before here but wasn’t answered. Can Jackie keep his councillor job? Or go for the Dail in the future..?

Yes and Yes.

Rows Grower · 06-12-2019 7:41pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

The judgement is not being appealed. The 3 defendants will now face a civil suit. The civil suit will hit their pockets hard

I'd say them pockets are deep.

salmocab · 06-12-2019 7:51pm

Maren Squeaking Sander wrote: »

How can one of them be found guilty for 2offences and still get a suspended sentence.
Scandalous result!

Ah In fairness nobody would have gone to prison for this offence, unless they were already out on license. In the grand scheme we can’t imprison every scum bag that gets into a fight on a Saturday night.

Igotadose · 06-12-2019 7:56pm

salmocab wrote: »

Ah In fairness nobody would have gone to prison for this offence, unless they were already out on license. In the grand scheme we can’t imprison every scum bag that gets into a fight on a Saturday night.

Imprison some percentage and the fight frequency should drop. And, make an example of these high-profile goons, that'll send a message.

Ireland is way too easygoing on its criminals.

seligehgit · 06-12-2019 8:12pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

The judgement is not being appealed. The 3 defendants will now face a civil suit. The civil suit will hit their pockets hard

It was mentioned on Virgin Media news that the verdict was going to be appealed.

The newly elected councillor isn't going to step down from the policing committee either.

liosnagceann75 · 06-12-2019 8:15pm

seligehgit wrote: »

It was mentioned on Virgin Media news that the verdict was going to be appealed.

The newly elected councillor isn't going to step down from the policing committee either.

Not arguing with you but on rte they reported the opposite.

BarryD2 · 06-12-2019 8:45pm

salmocab wrote: »

Ah In fairness nobody would have gone to prison for this offence, unless they were already out on license. In the grand scheme we can’t imprison every scum bag that gets into a fight on a Saturday night.

That's true but every scumbag isn't supposed to include Councillors who are on policing committees. If Kerry CoCo allow him to keep that position, it'll be an utter disgrace.

Rows Grower · 06-12-2019 8:47pm

Igotadose wrote: »

Imprison some percentage and the fight frequency should drop. And, make an example of these high-profile goons, that'll send a message.

Ireland is way too easygoing on its criminals.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dara-murphy-paid-10000-month-21028024

I wonder what this chaps opinion of the matter is?

Galwayguy35 · 06-12-2019 8:54pm

Jackie Jr has a fair thick looking head on him, he didn't seem to be too upset about having a conviction to his name now.

Hope the injured party will get some compensation for the assault he suffered.

reubenreuben · 06-12-2019 9:04pm

A fair bit of in-breeding in that family by the looks of them

salmocab · 06-12-2019 9:43pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

That's true but every scumbag isn't supposed to include Councillors who are on policing committees. If Kerry CoCo allow him to keep that position, it'll be an utter disgrace.

No it shouldn’t include them as I’d expect better of public representatives, however a court can’t start treating people differently because of who they are. The council certainly shouldn’t have him on the committee but I’ve no doubt that they all just fall into line with the family.

Idbatterim · 06-12-2019 10:23pm

reubenreuben wrote: »

A fair bit of in-breeding in that family by the looks of them

yeah, sure it would have kept the price of dating down!

Plastik · 06-12-2019 10:25pm

Was Wharton's chipper being banished out the road to Templenoe anything as a result of this case?

John_Rambo · 06-12-2019 10:28pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-given-suspended-sentence-for-racially-abusing-and-attacking-taxi-driver-1.4107205

Good day for suspended sentences for the Kingdom brethren. Lets hope their lenient sentences will change their ways.

seligehgit · 06-12-2019 10:43pm

The most shocking consequence of the whole incident is the that the visiting injured party's relations according to the Virgin Media report no longer feel comfortable in the locality.

Idbatterim · 06-12-2019 10:47pm

seligehgit wrote: »

The most shocking consequence of the whole incident is the that the visiting injured party's relations according to the Virgin Media report no longer feel comfortable in the locality.

what a greek tragedy!

06-12-2019 10:53pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

That's true but every scumbag isn't supposed to include Councillors who are on policing committees. If Kerry CoCo allow him to keep that position, it'll be an utter disgrace.

Cue self-pitying rant from Mikey:

"Listen to me now a minute, 'tis the meeja looking down on rural Ireland. And Shane Ross trying to put us out of business..."

fryup · 06-12-2019 11:45pm

any chance the cctv footage will be made public?

Coillte_Bhoy · 07-12-2019 12:17am

Igotadose wrote: »

Imprison some percentage and the fight frequency should drop. And, make an example of these high-profile goons, that'll send a message.

Ireland is way too easygoing on its criminals.

Surely everyone should be equal before the law? Cuts both ways

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 8:23am

I see the two got away with it, probably cheered on by the locals

So it’s ok in Kerry now to beat up tourist, 3 v 1 the chickens, lie in court, perjure yourself on the stand, and walk out if court

Probably out on campaign trail tomorrow and everyone slapping them on the back

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 8:23am

fryup wrote: »

any chance the cctv footage will be made public?

Don’t worry the Garda will have made sure daddy will have all copies of tgat

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 8:25am

salmocab wrote: »

Ah In fairness nobody would have gone to prison for this offence, unless they were already out on license. In the grand scheme we can’t imprison every scum bag that gets into a fight on a Saturday night.

3 v 1.... other scumbags do it when they see this scumbags get away with it

It sends a message to everyone else....they did it, the court said it, they came up with a bunch of lies and get a mini slap on wrist....absolute joke....judges are f**king useless in this country

salmocab · 07-12-2019 8:47am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

3 v 1.... other scumbags do it when they see this scumbags get away with it

It sends a message to everyone else....they did it, the court said it, they came up with a bunch of lies and get a mini slap on wrist....absolute joke....judges are f**king useless in this country

Look I’m not standing up for them as it’s obvious to me that are contemptible human beings but what’s happened here is really people want a different outcome based on who they are, a lot of the same people are effectively thinking they got away with it based on who they are. They didn’t get away with it and got what any other scum bags fighting in a Saturday night would have got.

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 8:52am

salmocab wrote: »

Look I’m not standing up for them as it’s obvious to me that are contemptible human beings but what’s happened here is really people want a different outcome based on who they are, a lot of the same people are effectively thinking they got away with it based on who they are. They didn’t get away with it and got what any other scum bags fighting in a Saturday night would have got.

Most scum admit it so they get a reduced sentence, these scum lied at every point in this case and show no remorse, people saying they want to appeal

That sort of scum should be thrown in jail....

Yes I agree if they done it, admit it and offer something in remorse then no jail, would even question court time if first offence

But this is different so the scum should be in jail....says a lot for the parents by the time this is the children they bring up....I never agree with the “ahh the parents are lovely” crap....They even used the excuse of “who they are” for why they are scumbags

goat2 · 07-12-2019 12:34pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree as they say.

It wasn't licked off a stone

The screwing of the GAA club was done when underage so would have had to be done through parents btw (I'd imagine). Even if they didn't have to consent to anything, I know myself that if I tried to pull and stunt like that when I was that age I'd have be beat out of the place.

Is there a back story, has there been some trouble between these guys in the past,

take everything · 07-12-2019 9:29pm

They broke this guy's nose, among other facial injuries, went back for seconds, expressed no remorse, lied about in statements and in court, from what I read, plead not guilty, despite incontrovertible CCTV evidence, are appealing (on what grounds, I dunno) and the councillor has no Intention of resigning and intends to keep his job on the policing committee (according to the solicitor).

And these were lads who were given everything in life (private boarding school costing thousands a year etc etc, for all the good it did).

Brass neck sense of entitlement does not begin to describe these two ****heads.

And they'll go back to work and be elected like they were the ones desperately wronged.

Something very off about all that.

Timistry · 07-12-2019 9:31pm

Plastik wrote: »

Was Wharton's chipper being banished out the road to Templenoe anything as a result of this case?

Nope

Rows Grower · 10-12-2019 9:31am

marieholmfan wrote: »

There's no clocking out procedures but none of the papers have alleged that he was basically just 'tapping the fob'.

Deputy Murphy appears to have achieved some kind of scientific breakthrough regarding one of time travel, bilocation or going faster than light!

It appears the former Deputy is in line for another windfall from the public purse in addition to the half a million he is already entitled to for doing nothing.

This lad is tearing the hole out of it altogether. Fine Gael have no shame, no morals and no ethics.

None.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dara-murphy-eligible-for-24k-council-gratuity-969488.html

partyguinness · 10-12-2019 11:15am

Noteworthy.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/kerry-and-westmeath-county-councils-fail-transparency-test-1.4110062

partyguinness · 10-12-2019 11:17am

take everything wrote: »

They broke this guy's nose, among other facial injuries, went back for seconds, expressed no remorse, lied about in statements and in court, from what I read, plead not guilty, despite incontrovertible CCTV evidence, are appealing (on what grounds, I dunno) and the councillor has no Intention of resigning and intends to keep his job on the policing committee (according to the solicitor).

And these were lads who were given everything in life (private boarding school costing thousands a year etc etc, for all the good it did).

Brass neck sense of entitlement does not begin to describe these two ****heads.

And they'll go back to work and be elected like they were the ones desperately wronged.

Something very off about all that.

and you can be sure they will continue to top the poll in whatever 'election' they enter thanks to good people of South Kerry- mucksavages.

Rows Grower · 10-12-2019 1:10pm

partyguinness wrote: »

and you can be sure they will continue to top the poll in whatever 'election' they enter thanks to good people of South Kerry- mucksavages.

Neither of the two of them ever ran for election in south Kerry.

partyguinness · 10-12-2019 1:16pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Neither of the two of them ever ran for election in south Kerry.

I know that but their family have (local and general) and it is only a matter of time before they are lined up.

Shefwedfan · 10-12-2019 5:54pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Neither of the two of them ever ran for election in south Kerry.

Not yet....but very very soon they will be

SlowBlowin · 10-12-2019 6:30pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I know that but their family have (local and general) and it is only a matter of time before they are lined up.

Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

salmocab · 10-12-2019 6:53pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

I agree with you to a point but when you use the defence in court that your only there because of who your family is then you have very much brought your family into it yourself. Keeping the family out of it should cut both ways. It’s obvious they feel they were above the levels we all judge ourselves on based on who they are.

Shefwedfan · 10-12-2019 7:18pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

Parents should be judged based on their children....

Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.

Rows Grower · 10-12-2019 7:39pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Parents should be judged based on their children....

Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.

That's not fair on your mother and father.

SlowBlowin · 10-12-2019 8:10pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Parents should be judged based on their children....

Especially in this situation when the children despite huge evidence against them continued to lie.

If they float then they are guilty !

Bought to you by the same reasoned argument that all the people of Kerry are mucksavages because some of them voted for the HRs.

James Brown · 10-12-2019 8:18pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Did you know Pope Francis used to be a night club bouncer ? I bet he gave a few people a bloody nose that didn't deserve it.

So you passionately believe people can be judged by the actions of a family member ? Who is your political idol ? Perhaps have a look at their family past I am sure you will be equally disgusted.

So they don't run for public office in relation to their family name?
If they can sell themselves based on their brand, equally being two street brawlers jumping on a lad with their pal should be considered.

Rows Grower · 10-12-2019 8:21pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

So they don't run for public office in relation to their family name?
If they can sell themselves based on their brand, equally being two street brawlers jumping on a lad with their pal should be considered.

Correct Matt, they do not.

StringerBell · 10-12-2019 8:37pm

Michael Healy Rae is a very good politician, very good. Sharp as a tac and plays his part very well. Danny is an oaf, of course and any of the other nameless Healy Rae's I couldn't tell you anything about other than they have quite the cartel going down below there in Kerry.

Michael is the only one to have impressed me with his political acumen anyway I can tell you that much.

The Healy Raes

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