I want to live in America

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:01pm #1

I know it has it's problems but it has a lot going for it. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So how do I go about becoming an American citizen?

Vladimir Poontang · 31-01-2018 3:03pm

Yester wrote: »

I know it has it's problems but it has a lot going for it. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So how do I go about becoming an American citizen?

Give enormous sums of money to the Clinton Slush Fund Foundation

Riskymove · 31-01-2018 3:03pm

https://www.usa.gov/become-us-citizen

Richard Hillman · 31-01-2018 3:07pm

Too many gangs for my liking. Wouldn't even visit it as a holiday

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:08pm

Riskymove wrote: »

https://www.usa.gov/become-us-citizen

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

Boom_Bap · 31-01-2018 3:09pm

Rock Flag and Eagle

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:09pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Too many gangs for my liking. Wouldn't even visit it as a holiday

If enough of us go we could set up our own gang. The Hillmans has a nice ring to it.

long_b · 31-01-2018 3:10pm

Everything's free in America

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 31-01-2018 3:11pm

Yester wrote: »

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

Too much work to even google it? Marriage does not bestow citizenship but MAY qualify for a green card. Look it up!

valoren · 31-01-2018 3:11pm

I like to be in America......

beertons · 31-01-2018 3:12pm

Have you a gun? They love firearms over there.

Chrongen · 31-01-2018 3:12pm

Yester wrote: »

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

You can't become a US citizen unless you have first lived there legally for 5+ years. So you have to get a green card before you can live there legally. As someone who has lived there for several years I would advise against it. There are better places to live.

mojesius · 31-01-2018 3:13pm

Yester wrote: »

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

They do routine check ups on you to ensure you're actually married - regular home visits, correspondence address being used , evidence that you are not scamming the system. I know an american man who married a Chilean woman friend to get her card and he said the entire thing was an almighty pain in the bollocks for years.

Rory28 · 31-01-2018 3:13pm

Yester wrote: »

I know it has it's problems but it has a lot going for it. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So how do I go about becoming an American citizen?

Join the military. What could go wrong?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 31-01-2018 3:14pm

long_b wrote: »

Everything's free I'm America

For a small fee in America

Farmer Bob · 31-01-2018 3:14pm

Yester wrote: »

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

What a cliche

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:14pm

Frankie Wet Fishing wrote: »

Too much work to even google it? Marriage does not bestow citizenship but MAY qualify for a green card. Look it up!

If I wanted to look it up I wouldn't have asked on After Hours. Seriously though wouldn't be great to be American?

LeinsterDub · 31-01-2018 3:14pm

Yester wrote: »

I know it has it's problems but it has a lot going for it. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So how do I go about becoming an American citizen?

You've Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness here .

wakka12 · 31-01-2018 3:14pm

Most of europe has liberty and whatever 'pursuit of happiness' entails,which is surely subjective
Why pick america over even canada? They have very similar culture overall but with most of the bad bits of american culture ironed out, like political extremism, religious fanaticism and gun culture, more equal society

razorblunt · 31-01-2018 3:15pm

OP, check this documentary out.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2a3nG57nFjg/hqdefault.jpg

Rory28 · 31-01-2018 3:15pm

Yester wrote: »

If I wanted to look it up I wouldn't have asked on After Hours. Seriously though wouldn't be great to be American?

As opposed to Irish? No. No it isn't.

BorneTobyWilde · 31-01-2018 3:16pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Too many gangs for my liking. Wouldn't even visit it as a holiday

There are 100's of towns and small citys with populations 10k -200k .Places with zero crime, places where you still leave your door open.
Not all down town Detroit.

Riskymove · 31-01-2018 3:16pm

Yester wrote: »

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/naturalization-spouses-us-citizens

:pac:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 31-01-2018 3:16pm

Yester wrote: »

Seriously though wouldn't be great to be American?

Correct. Wouldn't be great.

Hector Savage · 31-01-2018 3:17pm

Short answer .
There are 4 ways to live and work legally in America.

1. Company sponsors you to work there - they sort out VISA.
2. Marry a US Citizen (no sham marriages)
3. Invest a minimum sum (last I checked it was half a million dollars) in a US business that will create x no. of jobs there.
4. Win the VISA lottery (think there is one every year) - its free to apply but it is a LOTTERY.

redcup342 · 31-01-2018 3:18pm

wakka12 wrote: »

Most of europe has liberty and whatever 'pursuit of happiness' entails,which is surely subjective
Why pick america over even canada? They have very similar culture overall but with most of the bad bits of american culture ironed out, like political extremism, religious fanaticism and gun culture, more equal society

Canada is cold end of.

WTF would you go to Canada for except for work

endacl · 31-01-2018 3:19pm

Yester wrote: »

If enough of us go we could set up our own gang. The Hillmans has a nice ring to it.

Would be shut down by the Hillman Hunters.

mojesius · 31-01-2018 3:19pm

Also health insurance and education are very expensive. You're fcuked is you get sick over there unless you have a decent income and insurance plan.

(Not that Ireland is great in this respect)

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:19pm

mojesius wrote: »

They do routine check ups on you to ensure you're actually married - regular home visits, correspondence address being used , evidence that you are not scamming the system. I know an american man who married a Chilean woman friend to get her card and he said the entire thing was an almighty pain in the bollocks for years.

Yes I suppose it's the most obvious way. Sounds like a lot of hassle. I have a friend living illegally over there. he is working inan Irish bar, no questions asked but he is not able to relax.

Chrongen · 31-01-2018 3:19pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

There are 100's of towns and small citys with populations 10k -200k .Places with zero crime, places where you still leave your door open.
Not all down town Detroit.

Where your only job prospects are Wallmart shelf stacker, TGIF burger server or Pabst Blue Ribbon beer slopper

BorneTobyWilde · 31-01-2018 3:20pm

100 Shelton, CT
99 Syracuse, UT
98 Foster, City
97 Oviedo, FL
96 New Milford, CT
95 Mission Viejo, CA
94 Mount Prospect, IL
93 New Berlin, WI
92 Hilliard, OH
91 Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
90 Poway, CA
89 Fishers, IN
88 Bethel Park, PA
87 Cumberland, RI
86 Lakeville, MN
85 Park Ridge, IL
84 Saratoga, CA
83 Arlington Heights, IL
82 Little Elm, TX
81 Lake Forest, CA
80 Wakefield, MA
79 Spring Hill, TN
78 Mason, OH
77 Gloucester, MA
76 Mundelein, IL
75 Des Plaines, IL
74 Danville, CA
73 Brentwood, TN
72 Milton, GA
71 Highland Park, IL
70 Wylie, TX
69 Glen Ellyn, IL
68 Beverly, MA
67 Hoffman Estates, IL
66 Moorpark, CA
65 Palatine, IL
64 Kaysville, UT
63 Holly Springs, NC
62 Johns Creek, GA
61 Westport, CT
60 Bella Vista, AR
59 Carmel, IN
58 South Kingstown, RI
57 Long Beach, NY
56 Sayreville, NJ
55 Westfield, NJ
54 Flower Mound, TX
53 Londonderry, NH
52 Aliso Viejo, CA
51 Carol Stream, IL
50 Milton, MA
49 Plainfield, IL
48 Rochester Hills, MI
47 Lockport, IL
46 Melrose, MA
45 Cheshire, CT
44 Ridgewood, NJ
43 Friendswood, TX
42 Wellesley, MA
41 Newton, MA
40 Huntley, IL
39 Ballwin, MO
38 Madison, MS
37 Plymouth, MA
36 Fort Lee, NJ
35 Saratoga Springs, UT
34 Hanover Park, IL
33 North Andover, MA
32 Belmont, MA
31 Reading, MA
30 Sammamish, WA

Would be strange to even get a funny look off someone, let alone be a victim of a crime in these places.

Adamocovic · 31-01-2018 3:24pm

Ok OP, firstly forget all this green card and government website spiel from others.There are many ways to actually end up living there, but many are too time consuming so I'm going to give you the quickest way possible.

You're in luck. Ireland and the United States have an extradition agreement. Now how to commit a crime that covers the basis to be extradited? Well you're options are endless. Recently a Wicklow man was extradited I do believe for conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit hacking and conspiracy to commit money laundering. He did this all from the comfort of his house on his laptop. I'm not sure if you would be required to commit all three crimes.

Anyway once you've done it and are caught High Court may decide to extradite you to the States where you can fulfil your, presumably, life sentence. Strolling into the maximum security prison with the Californian sun on your back and James Brown's "Living in America" in your ears, you'll know it's all been worth it.

Chrongen · 31-01-2018 3:25pm

endacl wrote: »

Would be shut down by the Hillman Hunters.

The Hillman Avengers could stage a retaliatory strike though.

mojesius · 31-01-2018 3:26pm

Yester wrote: »

Yes I suppose it's the most obvious way. Sounds like a lot of hassle. I have a friend living illegally over there. he is working inan Irish bar, no questions asked but he is not able to relax.

I went on a j1 years ago working in a bar and borderhopped a few times, staying an extra 6 months. Cash in hand stuff but like you said, no security and you're on edge. Fun in your 20s, not so fun long term.

A fella from Clare used to drink in the bar and hadn't been back to Ireland since the 1980s, moved to NY for the building trade when there was eff all going on here. He missed many family funerals, weddings etc. He'd ask me so much about Ireland, I felt sorry for him, seemed really lost.

Richard Hillman · 31-01-2018 3:27pm

You could go to America, outstay your Visa and if you're Irish you will just be "Undocumented" instead of Illegal.

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:29pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

Ok OP, firstly forget all this green card and government website spiel from others.There are many ways to actually end up living there, but many are too time consuming so I'm going to give you the quickest way possible.

You're in luck. Ireland and the United States have an extradition agreement. Now how to commit a crime that covers the basis to be extradited? Well you're options are endless. Recently a Wicklow man was extradited I do believe for conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit hacking and conspiracy to commit money laundering. He did this all from the comfort of his house on his laptop. I'm not sure if you would be required to commit all three crimes.

Anyway once you've done it and are caught High Court may decide to extradite you to the States where you can fulfil your, presumably, life sentence. Strolling into the maximum security prison with the Californian sun on your back and James Brown's "Living in America" in your ears, you'll know it's all been worth it.

Obvious Russian Bot trying to get me to assassinate Donald Trump. He is a good busniess man and he is doing his best so feck off Boris.

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:31pm

mojesius wrote: »

I went on a j1 years ago working in a bar and borderhopped a few times, staying an extra 6 months. Cash in hand stuff but like you said, no security and you're on edge. Fun in your 20s, not so fun long term.

A fella from Clare used to drink in the bar and hadn't been back to Ireland since the 1980s, moved to NY for the building trade when there was eff all going on here. He missed many family funerals, weddings etc. He'd ask me so much about Ireland, I felt sorry for him, seemed really lost.

Yeah, my friend ended up missing his own dads funeral. He still feels bad about it.

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:33pm

endacl wrote: »

Would be shut down by the Hillman Hunters.

Lol my first car was a Hillman Hunter

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-01-2018 3:33pm

Yester wrote: »

Yeah, my friend ended up missing his own dads funeral. He still feels bad about it.

Ah jaysus, what a way to live.

If you're going to go do it the right way, I couldn't live in a country illegally like that.

CountingCrows · 31-01-2018 3:37pm

Chrongen wrote: »

Pabst Blue Ribbon beer slopper

Tell me more ...

mariaalice · 31-01-2018 3:37pm

Why do you want to go though?, the one thing that always struck me is that some of the US is very familiar particularly Boston and New York and its not just television and film. The reason is that it is English speaking and there are lots of Irish there, you realise there is an Irish look you can pick people out who's ancestress must have been Irish.

Its one thing visiting or even spending a couple of month its another thing living there.

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:37pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ah jaysus, what a way to live.

If you're going to go do it the right way, I couldn't live in a country illegally like that.

I know. Me neither. You could never be at peace.

Chrongen · 31-01-2018 3:39pm

mojesius wrote: »

I went on a j1 years ago working in a bar and borderhopped a few times, staying an extra 6 months. Cash in hand stuff but like you said, no security and you're on edge. Fun in your 20s, not so fun long term.

A fella from Clare used to drink in the bar and hadn't been back to Ireland since the 1980s, moved to NY for the building trade when there was eff all going on here. He missed many family funerals, weddings etc. He'd ask me so much about Ireland, I felt sorry for him, seemed really lost.

Yep, shit life. Knew a few like that myself when I lived there. They were totally trapped. They were all talk in their 20's because they had lots of cash from working in a bar or on the sites whereas I hadn't much because I was legal and chose to work in a white collar job, But as time went on and my salary improved with experience I would see them stagnating. I'd go to the Irish pub once in a while and there they'd be week in week out living the same bullshit "dream". I was chatting to one bloke about how I was going to take a couple of days off in February to fly to London to see my sister and go on the piss in the West End and maybe catch a football match at Spurs or Crystal Palace or something. He let on that this was crappy and why would you want to do such a thing, like you had everything you could ever want in America. He later confided that he was immensely envious and wasn't able to do something as simple yet as exciting as flying off to another country for a few days. Him and his cohorts used to go "on holiday" to the fcuking Catskills and that was the extent of their adventures outside of NY.

Bob Harris · 31-01-2018 3:42pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM

Fake News · 31-01-2018 3:44pm

Yester wrote: »

Riskymove wrote: »

https://www.usa.gov/become-us-citizen

That's way too much work. Could I not just marry an American girl/guy?

It has to be Bona Fide

Chrongen · 31-01-2018 3:46pm

Yester wrote: »

Lol my first car was a Hillman Hunter

Shouldn't you be more concerned with retiring now rather than emigrating :pac:

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:49pm

mariaalice wrote: »

Why do you want to go though?, the one thing that always struck me is that some of the US is very familiar particularly Boston and New York and its not just television and film. The reason is that it is English speaking and there are lots of Irish there, you realise there is an Irish look you can pick people out who's ancestress must have been Irish.

Its one thing visiting or even spending a couple of month its another thing living there.

That is a good question.Why do I want to go? It helps that it is an English speaking country and it had had a huge impact culturally on us here. I'm finding Ireland to be a small island. I could just go to europe but the language is a barrier. I have spent time in England but I guess I associte more with the good ol' USA.

mad muffin · 31-01-2018 3:50pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSKk-cvblc

Yester · 31-01-2018 3:51pm

Chrongen wrote: »

Shouldn't you be more concerned with retiring now rather than emigrating :pac:

Lol. I was a young man with an old car. What a car though. They were built like tanks.

wakka12 · 31-01-2018 3:51pm

redcup342 wrote: »

Canada is cold end of.

WTF would you go to Canada for except for work

Most of america has extremely cold winters too apart from southern states..and Vancouver CA has same winter weather as ireland

bodice ripper · 31-01-2018 3:53pm

Yester wrote:

If I wanted to look it up I wouldn't have asked on After Hours. Seriously though wouldn't be great to be American?

Rory28 wrote:

As opposed to Irish? No. No it isn't.

Look upon my two passports, and envy me.

But seriously, I think you'd be mad to give here up in favour of there.

I want to live in America

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