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Boards weather forecast contest Feb 2018

  • 29-01-2018 4:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭


    If you happen to be unfamiliar with our contests, scroll down the menu to the January thread, more details there.

    1. Predict the IMT for February (1981-2010 average is 5.3 C)

    2. Predict the MAX

    3. Predict the MIN

    4. Predict the PRC (% of normal)

    5. Predict the SUN (% of normal)

    6. BONUS: On 14th, where will the sun shine most and for how long?

    One valid answer would be 0.0 hours all locations

    Otherwise, predict an amount in hours (and tenths) and a location from this menu of recording staitons -- Belmullet, Malin Head, Gurteen, Knock, Casement, Dublin, Johnstown Castle, Cork, Valentia, Shannon

    Any station that manages more than 5 hours will count as a correct answer, if the amount is 0.1 to 4.9 hours your location score will be 3 if correct, 2 if you guess the second highest and 1 if the third highest.

    (that leaves seven points for your amount prediction -- 10 is about the max possible)

    Deadline without late penalties will be 0300h Thursday 1st of February.

    As regulars here know, I am taking a bit of a vacation from forecasting this week and I won't be around to look in much on this thread, perhaps some of you can keep an eye on responses and get in touch with any new entrants who might be unfamiliar with our contest format (if you see entries you suspect to be misdirected to the actual questions). Thanks and good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen _________ 4.2 __ 14.1 __ -9.0 __ 85 __ 125 __ 4.3 hrs Belmullet

    EDITED: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    JCXBXC _________ 5.0 __ 15.1 __ -5.5 __ 90 __ 120 __ 3.1hrs Oak Park


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭sunflower3


    sunflower3 _________ 5.5 __ 15.2 __ -6.5 __ 90 __ 100 __ 3.5 hrs Johnstown Castle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Bsal_________ 5.3 __ 15.5 __ -5.0 __ 110 __ 99 __ 3.7 hrs Casement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    john mac _________ 5.4 __ 14.5 __ -5.0 __ 110 __ 97 __ 3.3 hrs Belmullet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    sryanbruen _________ 5.9 __ 14.1 __ -7.0 __ 120 __ 110 __ 4.3 hrs Belmullet

    The IMT and precipitation by the way is not what I expect it to now, they're just the values I had inputted for February in the Winter forecast contest.

    Sometimes you gotta realise you're onto a loser and treat each contest as a separate entity ;)


    Rikand ___ 5.5 ___ 14.5 ___ -6.5 ___ 90 ___ 120 ___ 5.0 hrs Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Joe Public_______ 4.9 __ 14.9 __ -6.9 __ 90 __ 110 __ 4.9 hrs Malin Head

    Have a good break M.T.C. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Lumi _________ 5.4 __ 15.1 __ -6.3 __ 105 __ 96 __ 3.7 hrs Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn_______ 4.8 __ 14.5 __ -7.5 __ 75 __ 115 __ 4.5 hrs Belmullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Pauldry_________ 5.4 __ 14.8__ -5.5__ 104__ 100 __ 5.4 hrs Casement


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Kindred Spirit ________ 5.3 ___ 15.6 ___ -5.1 ___ 88 ___ 105 ___ Casement 4.5


  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭dasa29


    Dasa29 _________ 5.1 __ 13.5 __ -4.0 __ 115 __ 95 __ 5.5 hrs Belmullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    sdanseo _________ 4.7 __ 15.0 __ -6.2 __ 111 __ 105 __ 4.8hrs Oak Park


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Tae laidir ______ 5.6 __ 14.7 __ -6.1 __ 110 __ 96 __ 1.5 hrs Cork


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    John mac wrote: »
    john mac _________ 5.4 __ 14.5 __ -5.0 __ 110 __ 07 __ 3.3 hrs Belmullet

    Looks like you're going for an extremely dull month, John.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    200motels 5.1 __ 14.6__ -5.9__ 109__ 108 __ 5.1 hrs Casement


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DOCARCH _________ 4.9 __ 13.1 __ -6.2 __ 88 __ 98 __ 4.3 hrs Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    ahhhh , should be 97 for sun not 7 ... :D

    can you amend my entry please ..
    Thanks for the reminders//


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Dacogawa__ 4.7 __ 14.0__ -6.9__ 90__ 105 __ 5.3 hrs Knock


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    mickger844posts _________ 4.2 __ 14.8 __ -6.0 __ 90 __ 110 __ 5.3 hrs Johnstown Castle


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    BLIZZARD7 _________ 3.2c __ 14.1 __ -13.1 __ 85 __ 125 __ 5.3 hrs Knock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mrskinner


    Skinner______4.6_____13.8_____-7.0_____86_____100_____4.5 Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I see Johnmac clarified his sunshine ...

    Here's what I want, what I really really want ...

    M.T. Cranium ______ 2.9 _ 13.7 _ --10.1 _ 050 _ 200 _ 6.7 h Belmullet

    For 200% sun we're going to need 4.6h a day on the average ... scram clouds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Table of forecasts for February 2018

    This is what I see so far, expecting a few more, will edit them in if possible or just repost the table.

    FORECASTER ________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ____ Max sun 14th, loc'n

    Tae laidir ____________5.6 _ 14.7 _ --6.1 _ 110 _ 096 ____ 1.5 hrs Cork

    sunflower3 __________ 5.5 _ 15.2 _ --6.5 _ 090 _ 100 ____ 3.5 hrs Johnstown Castle

    Rikand ______________5.5 _ 14.5 _ --6.5 _ 090 _ 120 ____ 5.0 hrs Valentia

    Lumi _______________ 5.4 _ 15.1 _ --6.3 _ 105 _ 096 ____ 3.7 hrs Valentia

    Pauldry _____________ 5.4 _ 14.8_ --5.5 _ 104 _ 100 ____ 5.4 hrs Casement

    john mac ____________5.4 _ 14.5 _ --5.0 _ 110 _ 097 ____ 3.3 hrs Belmullet

    waterways ____ (-5) __ 5.3 _ 16.0 _ --9.0 _ 087 _ 110 ____ 2.0 hrs Cork

    Kindred Spirit _________5.3 _ 15.6 _ --5.1 _ 088 _ 105 ____ 4.5 hrs Casement

    Bsal ________________ 5.3 _ 15.5 _ --5.0 _ 110 _ 099 ____ 3.7 hrs Casement


    ___ NormaL __________5.3 _ 15.0 _ --7.0 _ 100 _ 100 ____ 3.0 hrs (loc'n based on normals)


    Rameire _____ (-2) ____5.1 _ 15.5 _ --6.0 _ 103 _ 104 ____ 2.5 hrs (Valentia)

    200motels ___________ 5.1 _ 14.6 _ --5.9 _ 109 _ 108 ____ 5.1 hrs Casement

    Dasa29 ______________5.1 _ 13.5 _ --4.0 _ 115 _ 095 ____ 5.5 hrs Belmullet


    ___ Con Sensus _______ 5.1 _ 14.8 _ --6.2 _ 090 _ 105 ____ 4.5 hrs _ 3 Belmullet, 2 Cas or JC, 1 Val


    JCXBXC _____________ 5.0 _ 15.1 _ --5.5 _ 090 _ 120 ____ 3.1 hrs Oak Park*

    Joe Public ____________4.9 _ 14.9 _ --6.9 _ 090 _ 110 ____ 4.9 hrs Malin Head

    DOCARCH ___________ 4.9 _ 13.1 _ --6.2 _ 088 _ 098 ____ 4.3 hrs Cork

    Jpmarn _____________ 4.8 _ 14.5 _ --7.5 _ 075 _ 115 ____ 4.5 hrs Belmullet

    sdanseo _____________4.7 _ 15.0 _ --6.2 _ 111 _ 105 ____ 4.8 hrs Johnstown Castle

    Dacogawa ___________ 4.7 _ 14.0 _ --6.9 _ 090 _ 105 ____ 5.3 hrs Knock

    MrSkinner ___________ 4.6 _ 13.8 _ --7.0 _ 086 _ 100 ____ 4.5 hrs Dublin

    mickger844posts ______4.2 _ 14.8 _ --6.0 _ 090 _ 110 ____ 5.3 hrs Johnstown Castle

    sryanbruen __________ 4.2 _ 14.1 _ --9.0 _ 085 _ 125 ____ 4.3 hrs Belmullet

    BLIZZARD7 __________ 3.2 _ 14.1 _ -13.1 _ 085 _ 125 ____ 5.3 hrs Knock

    M.T. Cranium _________2.9 _ 13.7 _ -10.1 _ 050 _ 200 ____ 6.7 hrs Belmullet

    _________________________________________________________________

    * Oak Park does not record sunshine so these will be converted to Johnstown Castle or whatever the posters prefer (up to end of 2nd). Sdanseo accepted Johnstown Castle as shown now.

    Normal max sunshine based on 25% more than any station's average to account for random variation.

    Normal's location will be scored on the basis of average sunshine hours at these locations. Normal scores higher if the sunnier locations win out. Con Sensus location is scored as shown in the table.

    Our choices for location of maximum sunshine included 7 for Belmullet, 4 for each of Casement and JC, and 3 for Valentia, 2 for Cork, then 1 each for Malin Head, Knock and Dublin. Shannon and Gurteen were not picked by any of our 23 forecasters.

    Con Sensus is median, 12th ranked forecast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I see Johnmac clarified his sunshine ...

    Here's what I want, what I really really want ...

    M.T. Cranium ______ 2.9 _ 13.7 _ --10.1 _ 050 _ 200 _ 6.7 h Belmullet

    For 200% sun we're going to need 4.6h a day on the average ... scram clouds.

    Yes please! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    Rameire_________ 5.1 __ 15.5 __ -6.0 __ 103 __ 104 __ 2.5 hrs Valentia
    apologies for the lateness

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    * Oak Park does not record sunshine so these will be converted to Johnstown Castle or whatever the posters prefer (up to end of 2nd).

    Oops! Johnstown it is then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    waterways __________5.3 _ 16.0 _ --9.0 _ 87 _ 110 ____ 2.0 hrs Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I think the regulars have all posted now and the table of entries above is edited to show late entries. Our group consensus is for a somewhat colder and drier month than average with a bit more sunshine. Some of us have taken that to quite a higher level.

    Good luck everyone. January scoring will appear tomorrow, I hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Great to have a February twice as sunny as normal. Its a given isnt it?😀


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    pauldry wrote: »
    Great to have a February twice as sunny as normal. Its a given isnt it?��

    After last year's dreadful affairs, we deserve it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    10.5 at Belmullet on 4th was the highest so far this month, and the only reading into double digits that I've seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Have only read the thread now, Johnstown Castle will do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    -4.2C at Mullingar yesterday, is that the lowest yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After the first chilly week ...

    IMT on 3.1, which is 2.1 below normal.

    MAX 10.5, MIN -4.2 (max may edge up after today?)

    PRC only 52% of normal so far.

    SUN 167% of normal (1003/600).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    The 200percent Febs still on MT. Well done

    Mines a blowout!


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Moore Park 12.3 yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Did anyone see my earlier post? I said Knock had beaten out some stations for sunshine on 14th but not all data were posted yet. Well I refreshed the page and all the data are there now.

    Knock is the champion of sunshine, must be a rather unusual outcome, but that's what they say, 3.4 hours just ahead of 3.3 at Gurteen and 2.8 at Malin Head.

    Congrats to Dacogawa and BLIZZARD7 who guessed Knock, and to sunflower3 and Johnmac who were closest to the right value. 2pt Superbonus won't be awarded but maybe some 1 pt ones will emerge, will score this end of the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    No they seem to be on yesterdays report

    3.4 knock
    3.3 gurteen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Thanks, I was editing when you posted.

    We are an optimistic group, 18 of 23 forecasts were too high although sunflower3 by only 0.1 hour. Johnmac was 0.1 low. Nobody picked Gurteen and only one (Joe Public) picked third place Malin Head.

    The sunny south coast (JC 0.7, Cork 0.6 hours) finished dead last. So it goes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    So on the location, would say 3 points for the two who picked Knock, 2 points for Joe Public with Malin Head and 1 point for anyone who picked any of Shannon, Dublin or Belmullet which were just behind Malin Head and ahead of the rest of the pack. Otherwise only three out of 23 will get any points for location (because nobody picked 2nd place Gurteen for the two points). Will give Con and NormaL 1 point on the same basis.

    You can figure out roughly how many points for sunshine hours, I will give seven points to top four and 6 down to 1 point to groups of three or four depending on how they cluster. Surprised nobody took the all zero option, it probably doesn't happen that often in mid-February as opposed to December but it must happen sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Another rather cold week for the second week of February ...

    IMT now on 3.5 with the second week at 4.0, still 1.3 below normal.

    PRC has moved above normal now, the second week had 191% of normal which leaves the month at 122%.

    SUN remains high although my hopes for 200% are fading a little, this past week managed 153% (916/600) and the running average then is 160 per cent of normal. If this keeps up, we'll be scoring off the minimum progression as the second highest forecasts are 125%, anything between 133% and 192% is going to trigger full minimum progression, under the rules, I can limit everyone else's boost to half if the result is 193 to 207 for a natural score of 9 or 10 ... I don't think the forecasts below 125 will require any boost if 125 scores 9 or 10 ... so that's a very narrow window for losing the 2 to 5 points involved in a reduced minimum progression, I wouldn't worry about it happening. Knowing my luck we will come in at 192 (more likely 140ish).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Not quite as mild as the previous max on Sunday (12.1 the highest values). Today could challenge again.

    I think I see a new MIN coming from Siberia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Not quite as mild as the previous max on Sunday (12.1 the highest values). Today could challenge again.

    I think I see a new MIN coming from Siberia.

    Was going to say, I can see the all time February minimum coming under pressure next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Today got to 14c in parts of Cork

    Next week will prob hit -8c somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    Was going to say, I can see the all time February minimum coming under pressure next week.

    Problem is, rather windy and air mass laden with low level moisture (snow) for several days, any exceptionally cold mornings may have to wait until pressure builds a bit and skies clear some night but that could be into March. I do think we will get below -7 C for this month but could imagine a -12 to -15 minimum after snowfall if we can get clear skies one night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    And after all the talk about cold, Moore Park reached 14.3 yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After three weeks ...

    IMT on 4.1 C with this past week a more moderate 5.3 C which is 0.3 below normal. This looks like staying steady to 25th then falling sharply to end around 3.3 C.

    PRC has moved back down to 103% of normal as this past week was rather dry at only 65% of normal. This will likely continue to fall off, even if some heavy snow happened at the very end of the month, week overall looks generally dry, would say 90% or lower for a finish.

    SUN is staying on the high side of most forecasts at 157% of normal with this past week at 142% (849/600). I suspect there won't be a lot of sunshine this week so this may end up around 135%. We are guaranteed nothing lower than 118% even if it remains overcast all week. For my 200% to verify I would need over 3 times normal which needs clear skies almost all the time. My only hope now is to have enough sunshine that my error is no larger than most others.

    MAX 14.3, MIN of --4.2 previously was tied on 21st at Mullingar.

    The max is probably safe, the MIN depends on how much cloud comes in with the colder air, I think a reading below -7 C is quite possible on 27th and/or 28th, how much lower depends on cloud cover and snow on the ground by morning of 28th, but anything phenomenally cold will likely be delayed into early March.

    I will get a March contest thread up soon, with some protective rules about scoring for the MIN (not just late penalties but perfect MIN after-a-reading score reductions in case the MIN happens on 1st or 2nd and it seems obviously locked in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The new MIN is --5.5 C from Mountdillon on Sunday morning. That won't last too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The lowest reported yesterday (or Tuesday) was --5.7 at Gurteen, so that's probably the new MIN (could have gone a lot lower with clear skies anywhere at the right time).

    The IMT will likely finish around 3.6, will confirm that. Yesterday's IMT was --2.3 C.


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