F1 2019 - Round 9 Austria

Rossi IRL · 29-06-2019 4:54pm

Sky would want to sort out their sound.

Voices come and a second later the mouths move

BikeRacer · 29-06-2019 5:07pm

Hamilton receives 3-place grid penalty and 1 penalty point for impeding Raikkonen

This race just got very interesting...

cherryghost · 29-06-2019 5:15pm

Spicy grid for tomorrow! First race this year I'm actually looking forward to not falling asleep to

chicorytip · 29-06-2019 5:16pm

skipper_G wrote:

That Hamilton incident is surely a stonewall penalty, he drove across the ******* apex in front of a car on a flying lap. Russell should be getting one as well for the Kvyat incident, that was dangerous.

I think the Russell penalty was rather harsh. He was at the tail end of a train of slower cars all on a slow lap. He had positioned his car correctly so what else could he have done to prevent a collision? The fault lay entirely on Toro Rosso for not informing Kvyat of traffic up ahead. I presume they had all the necessary data available to them regarding track positions of other cars.

skipper_G · 29-06-2019 5:23pm

chicorytip wrote: »

I think the Russell penalty was rather harsh. He was at the tail end of a train of slower cars all on a slow lap. He had positioned his car correctly so what else could he have done to prevent a collision? The fault lay entirely on Toro Rosso for not informing Kvyat of traffic up ahead. I presume they had all the necessary data available to them regarding track positions of other cars.

He had positioned his car exactly where Kvyat wanted to go in the middle of the racing line. Russell was doing what he should in setting up his own lap, regardless he must yield priority to Kvyat who was on a flying lap. It is the responsibility of the ones on out laps to get out of the way of drivers on flying laps. Hence the penalty.

skipper_G · 29-06-2019 5:26pm

Hamilton penalty was another slam dunk, dithering across the whole bloody corner from apex to outside. The grid tomorrow should hopefully bring some unpredictability to the outcome. Tired of Mercedes wins

Dont be at yourself · 29-06-2019 6:30pm

Great grid. Norris in 4th is some result -- great to see McLaren continue their momentum.

29-06-2019 8:03pm

It looks like there is a slight danger of an exciting race tomorrow!
Fingers crossed

AMKC · 29-06-2019 8:11pm

Delighted for Leclerc great lap. Well done to the two Alfa's too.

3 place grid penalty for Hamilton. Only right and delighted he got it. Also 3 place grid penalty for George Russel not that that makes much difference.

Should be a great race tomorrow but found the qualifying not as good as in France. Maybe just cause it was not live. You could clearly see where C4 had cut bits out really annoying. Never noticed it much before.

Infoanon · 29-06-2019 8:19pm

2011 wrote: »

It looks like there is a slight danger of an exciting race tomorrow!
Fingers crossed

Not a great circuit for passing unfortunately. .....

pjohnson · 29-06-2019 8:27pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Not a great circuit for passing unfortunately. .....

It is if they've lopped off their front wing at turn 10 :pac:

Adamocovic · 29-06-2019 8:31pm

Unlucky for Vettel but with the issues again but if he gets a good start and himself and Hamilton duel it out with cars in front of them it will be interesting.

Norris again shining too. He's really clicking with it at the moment.

Verstappen v Leclerc is a battle I'm looking forward too! Two young exciting drivers. Let's just hope we get some entertainment and aren't let down.

AMKC · 29-06-2019 8:37pm

Excellent piece on the C4 highlights about Red Bull. Will catch it now on the +1 if anyone is interested.
Its on in about 3 minutes.

the_pen_turner · 29-06-2019 8:45pm

what happened with vettle

seamusk84 · 29-06-2019 8:51pm

Exciting grid. Short circuit with a lot of congestion. Mixed tyre strategies. High temperatures.

Yup, shouldn’t be a snore fest like last weekend! Well I hope anyway.....

skipper_G · 29-06-2019 8:56pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what happened with vettle

Problem with the air pressure line to the engine, they didn't have enough time to repair it and get him out during Q3.

Joeface · 29-06-2019 9:35pm

FFS , F1 rules are insane , Hamilton penalty three places but he starts fourth ....

Just read that on autosport .

pjohnson · 29-06-2019 9:43pm

Joeface wrote: »

FFS , F1 rules are insane , Hamilton penalty three places but he starts fourth ....

Just read that on autosport .

Knew it was too good to be true that Lewis would actually be treated like a normal driver. Thats more like it.

Poor Norris and McLaren badly fúcked. Also to make Browns blood boil completly Sainz has ended up behind Albon in this "new" grid having originally been ahead of Albon due to Albon taking more new parts than Sainz has.

Joeface · 29-06-2019 9:57pm

Priority given to the driver with the faster time. Because KMag had an engine penalty Norris moving up means Hamiltons penalty for dangerous driving decision is technical reduced. What a load of horse powered crap .

These rules are stupid , penalty is a penalty one driver moves up the other should move down

Another way of looking at it is they applied Hamiltons penalty before KMags even though KMags was known before qual started and Hamiltons was decided an hour after it finished

d8491prj5boyvg · 29-06-2019 11:11pm

Joeface wrote: »

Priority given to the driver with the faster time. Because KMag had an engine penalty Norris moving up means Hamiltons penalty for dangerous driving decision is technical reduced. What a load of horse powered crap .

These rules are stupid , penalty is a penalty one driver moves up the other should move down

Another way of looking at it is they applied Hamiltons penalty before KMags even though KMags was known before qual started and Hamiltons was decided an hour after it finished

Very stupid. I agree, it should be in order of when they were incurred, not in order of preference of faster driver

Rossi IRL · 29-06-2019 11:40pm

Them the rules though for the past few years.... Not like they just made them up now to suit Hamilton.

Jeff2 · 29-06-2019 11:58pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Them the rules though for the past few years.... Not like they just made them up now to suit Hamilton.

By the thread this race could be good.
I might fix my cable to satellite to watch later on C4.
If its on C4 now.

pjohnson · 30-06-2019 12:16am

I dont remember anything this daft happening before. Aside from was it Monza 3 years ago? Nearly the whole grid basically got so many penalties Perez (who had like a 5 place drop himself ended up moving UP two places). That might actually be where McLaren got the 65 place grid penalty :pac:

AMKC · 30-06-2019 12:25am

Jeff2 wrote: »

By the thread this race could be good.
I might fix my cable to satellite to watch later on C4.
If its on C4 now.

Its not live n C4 anymore. The highlights of the race will be on it tomorrow/today from 7pm.

Mahony0509 · 30-06-2019 12:27am

First time I've been excited for a race in a while. That qualifying was fantastic!

Adamocovic · 30-06-2019 12:50am

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Them the rules though for the past few years.... Not like they just made them up now to suit Hamilton.

You're probably right, I've never noticed it before.

Even the sky sports guys were going about Norris now finishing 4th and how brilliant it was. Probably another case of the complex FIA rule book.

Bit disappointed as was looking forward to seeing Norris defending against Hamilton at the beginning. Them the rules I suppose.

Rossi IRL · 30-06-2019 12:56am

Adamocovic wrote: »

Bit disappointed as was looking forward to seeing Norris defending against Hamilton at the beginning.

Hamilton can get a slow start and he can be slow when behind cars...... Wouldn't right off a Norris Hamilton battle for a few laps.

Adamocovic · 30-06-2019 1:05am

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Hamilton can get a slow start and he can be slow when behind cars...... Wouldn't right off a Norris Hamilton battle for a few laps.

Would be interesting. The veteran British number 1 driver against the new kid.

Also looking into the rule, it seems Magnussen dropped back first, his spot is left empty and counts as one of Hamilton's dropped spots on the grid, so Hamilton moved to P5 ahead of Norris and no one occupied P4. Then once penalties are applied the empty spot on the grid is removed so Hamilton moved up into P4.

Never really realised that's how it works in this scenario but surely it's happened before and my memory is foggy.

Harika · 30-06-2019 7:21am

AMKC wrote: »

Its not live n C4 anymore. The highlights of the race will be on it tomorrow/today from 7pm.

If you speak German or just want to see it live for free, adjust the dish to get RTL on Satellit: Astra 19.2° Ost
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Joeface · 30-06-2019 9:21am

Rossi IRL wrote:

Them the rules though for the past few years.... Not like they just made them up now to suit Hamilton.

No not made up to suit Hamilton , it has nothing to do with him it's just stupid rules over complicated again in F1 . Same article says the rule is new this year

Autosport "This a result of a new rule that was introduced for 2019, which specifies that priority goes to the driver that sets the quicker qualifying time."

Rossi IRL · 30-06-2019 9:33am

Joeface wrote: »

Autosport "This a result of a new rule that was introduced for 2019, which specifies that priority goes to the driver that sets the quicker qualifying time."

Maybe it is new so

I seen on twitter it was in since Spa 2016 but maybe that was wrong

pjohnson · 30-06-2019 9:44am

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Maybe it is new so

I seen on twitter it was in since Spa 2016 but maybe that was wrong

Norris and McLaren both stated they were delighted to be in P4. The original starting grid stated he was P4. They didn't appear to know their own rule.

Only Leclerc and Grosjean are starting where they qualified today.

pjohnson · 30-06-2019 12:06pm

7 years ago this was a the front row in karts

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Cool_CM · 30-06-2019 12:06pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Norris and McLaren both stated they were delighted to be in P4.

Genuinely happy to see McLaren finally looking like they have turned things around and that the Honda engine in the Red Bull is looking good. At least that's one minor positive for the future (and now)!

Must feel pretty demoralising for George Russell at the moment.

flazio · 30-06-2019 12:49pm

Well that sucks for Gasly. Halfway through the drivers parade, Verstappen gets off the truck in front of loads of Dutch fans. He then finishes the parade in a ktm X-bow
Nothing for Gasly, the other Red Bull driver

Harika · 30-06-2019 1:59pm

flazio wrote: »

Well that sucks for Gasly. Halfway through the drivers parade, Verstappen gets off the truck in front of loads of Dutch fans. He then finishes the parade in a ktm X-bow
Nothing for Gasly, the other Red Bull driver

He has bigger fish to fry, if his season continues like that he can book a session to be driven around this track next year by himself with all the free time at hand.

Dont be at yourself · 30-06-2019 2:00pm

Harika wrote: »

He has bigger fish to fry, if his season continues like that he can book a session to be driven around this track next year by himself with all the free time at hand.

Maybe he can drive the bus?

Rossi IRL · 30-06-2019 2:07pm

Don't think Mercs have a chance here with the tyres, unless the front 2 take each other out.

Would rather see Leclerc win than Verstappen

Harika · 30-06-2019 2:07pm

F2 race seems to have been great too. Please don't disappoint

Rossi IRL · 30-06-2019 2:07pm

Harika wrote: »

F2 race seems to have been great too. Please don't disappoint

You have jinked it now

Harika · 30-06-2019 2:08pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

You have jinked it now

Sorry

Harika · 30-06-2019 2:11pm

Leclerc on soft like the rest of the top 10, except verstappen and the Mercedes

Jordan 199 · 30-06-2019 2:11pm

Comon Lewis.

deafroadrunner · 30-06-2019 2:13pm

Hopefully Charles can do it today

PsychoPete · 30-06-2019 2:14pm

Max made a balls of that

ctrl-alt-delete · 30-06-2019 2:14pm

Horrendous start for Verstappen

Cool_CM · 30-06-2019 2:15pm

Kimi and Lando! Wow, horror start for Max

deafroadrunner · 30-06-2019 2:15pm

Awful start for max

30-06-2019 2:15pm

Before the start of the race I meant to ask what price a Merc 1-2? :P

Good stuff from Norris, unlucky in the end.

ctrl-alt-delete · 30-06-2019 2:17pm

Vettel made that pass on Lando look easy if a little close

F1 2019 - Round 9 Austria

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