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Turbo Cider - a question or 2
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28-01-2013 4:14pm#1
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Sounds like you have it spot on. These days I usually "mince" the raisins with a hand blender to expose the sugar once I've boiled them for a bit. 3 tea bags is about right IMO.
I prefer to prime with apple juice. If you can do a batch prime that's handiest (do you have a second bucket?).
It's drinkable within 2 weeks of bottling, better after 4 and very tasty indeed after 8. I hear it peaks after about 6 months, but it has never lasted that long in my house.
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I prefer to prime with apple juice. If you can do a batch prime that's handiest (do you have a second bucket?).
It's drinkable within 2 weeks of bottling, better after 4 and very tasty indeed after 8. I hear it peaks after about 6 months, but it has never lasted that long in my house.
When you say Batch Prime you mean to move the fermented mixture into a second bin with the primer. Therefore only needing to prime once instead of every bottle? I just want to be 100% sure in what I am doing.
How much apple juice should I use to prime the fermented stuff? Any recommendations? Also, is there any highly recommended/tried & tested apple juices to use as a primer?
I plan on using 500ml bottles. So the first bottles will be opened after 4 weeks in the bottle. At roughly 6 or 8 bottles per my once weekly night of consumption. As the weeks pass it should be getting progressively tastier by the time I get around to the last few, say total time in the bottle 7 - 10 weeks.0 -
When you say Batch Prime you mean to move the fermented mixture into a second bin with the primer. Therefore only needing to prime once instead of every bottle? I just want to be 100% sure in what I am doing.
Yep. Siphon (or use your tap with a tube) the fermented cider into a second bucket that has the new apple juice already in it.How much apple juice should I use to prime the fermented stuff? Any recommendations? Also, is there any highly recommended/tried & tested apple juices to use as a primer?
I use the same cloudy apple juice to prime with. I like it quite fizzy so I go with at least 5g of sugar per 500ml. You can get 5g sugar per 500ml with approximately 1L of cloudy apple juice per 10L of fermented cider. For your batch that's a bit over 2 cartons of apple juice, but you could get away with 2 cartons by dissolving a small amount of sugar in.
These days I push it out to 7g of sugar per 500ml. I'm mad for the fizz.I plan on using 500ml bottles. So the first bottles will be opened after 4 weeks in the bottle. At roughly 6 or 8 bottles per my once weekly night of consumption. As the weeks pass it should be getting progressively tastier by the time I get around to the last few, say total time in the bottle 7 - 10 weeks.
Sounds like a plan. Enjoy!0 -
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Carawaystick wrote: »Do the raisins add any tannins, they are from red grapes, while sultanas are green grapes ?
I have no clue. Seems logical though.what type of tea bag do you use? is it best to use a black tea or can you use a lipton green tea?
I usually use mostly decaf lyons (because I try to avoid caffeine late at night, which is almost invariably when I'm drinking) and some normal barry's gold blend (because it's mega). In a 25L or more batch I'd usually use 4 tea bags. With the last two batches I took my chances and left the tea bags in the fermenter. They have been my nicest brews yet, though I can't be certain that leaving the tea bags in is what caused that.0 -
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I read somewhere that Champagne yeast makes cider alot dryer than the cider yeast linke above? Is this true.
The yeast and sanatizer arrived this morning so making it tomorrow
ya I find that with the lalvin_118 alright...splenda during bottling should help.. our juice some sweet apples and about 25 mls per bottle.
Good fizz and fermentation out of the lalvin though... Mines rocketing away for the last 6 days at 16 degrees! Although I used a spoon of yeast nutrient for the first time...0 -
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Good luck. Post up your first impressions.
Ok, I chilled and drank a 500ml bottle on Friday night.
Magnificent!
Super fizzy, nice sweetness with a lovely bitter aftertaste on the tongue from the malic acid I guess.
Had visitors around Saturday and Sunday so went through 4 litres of it. Everyone was in awe and agreed it was delicious, even though all said they weren't cider drinkers. I think this recipe will be repeated! Quite a lot 0 -
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Mister Burns wrote: »For 25Ltrs of Juice
- How much water would you use for simmering the tea bags to tar - using 4 tea bags?
I don't really measure it, but I'd say about half a litre. I wouldn't worry too much about the difference between 500ml and a litre at that point though tbh. It's a very small fraction of the total brew.Mister Burns wrote: »- I'm assuming about a cup full of raisins. I don't have a blending wand but can I just chop the sh1t out of the raisins before putting them into the boil?
Ah yeah, sounds good to me. One thing to note is that most raisins have vegetable oil on them to help with preservation. The sunmaid ones don't. It is possible to get the oil off the cheaper raisins by boiling them a little first, but it's a fair bit of effort. The sunmaid ones are worth paying the extra for unless you've already bought (props to beernut for that tip).Mister Burns wrote: »- How much Cider Yeast should I use?
One full packet should just about cover you.Mister Burns wrote: »- Am I reading it right that for priming in the secondary I should use 2.5 additional litres of Cloudy Apple juice and if I want bulmers sweet Cider I should add 250 Lidl tabs at this time?
You will lose about 2 litres in trub etc. You'll probably come out with 25 ish litres after you prime. For priming, I would say 2.5 litres would cover you nicely alright (that's 11g per litre of fermentable sugar if you get 25 litres total, which is on the very fizzy side - just the way I like it personally).
I would say 200 lidl tabs should cover that too. Under sweet is better than over sweet. If needs be you can throw a tab into your pint and it will dissolve, but you can't take it out if it's already dissolved.Mister Burns wrote: »Thanks for any help/direction you can give me.
MB
More than happy to help. I've received super direction from others on the forum so I'm happy to pass anything I can on.0 -
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What I need clarification on is can I put the tablets into the bottles and then fill them
Yes you can. After you've filled the bottles, you'll see the tablets fizz away into nothingness. It's a good idea as you say when you want to have a variety of levels. I discovered this by accident (having forgotten to add them to the batch prime mix), but used it much the same way as yourself. 0 -
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