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PERSONAL WEATHER STATIONS: Queries and Advice

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    There’s a dedicated weather station thread here so maybe you could post how you get on in that or the mods could merge this one into it.

    Thanks! Didnt know there was one sorry...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Just to add,that station is small enough to be mounted on a lattice tower ( a support for your washing line like ;) ) which would help with wind speed and direction a bit for you and probably help against the island temperature environment


    Main thread is HERE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Great, i'll repost there too unless a mod can merge into the thread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    ZeRoY wrote: »
    Great, i'll repost there too unless a mod can merge into the thread?

    Just link to this thread in it
    I'll report your thread asking for a merge


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Just link to this thread in it
    I'll report your thread asking for a merge

    Mod Note: Threads Merged :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭KAGY


    I've one for a while now ws2083. It does the job!
    On the mobile now, but search for ws2083 on this thread and you'll find more details. Basically I have an RPI connected to it full time sending its data to several weather websites including my own. Weather.whitehillenv.com
    Any specific Q's just ask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    is this one from Lidl (don't snigger) worth a punt for the casual user like myself

    https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/stylish-spaces/radio-controlled-weather-station/p24390


  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    looks like the Ascot one I have had for years. Worth the money. I have no problems with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭KAGY


    fryup wrote: »
    is this one from Lidl (don't snigger) worth a punt for the casual user like myself

    https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/stylish-spaces/radio-controlled-weather-station/p24390

    It will only give you the pressure, temperature and humidity. (No wind or rain measurements) you can't store historic records which I like doing.

    But, if that's all you want it seems good value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    KAGY wrote: »
    It will only give you the pressure, temperature and humidity. (No wind or rain measurements) you can't store historic records which I like doing.

    do aldi/lidl sell stations with wind & rain measurements? if so...any good?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭KAGY


    fryup wrote: »
    do aldi/lidl sell stations with wind & rain measurements? if so...any good?

    Don't think I've ever seen one, they'd need to have the "3 cups" anemometer. I'm sure that it'd be as good a quality as my €100 one
    Like this one (over priced on that link)
    https://www.greenfrogscientific.co.uk/aercus-instruments-ws2083-pro-wireless-weather-station/

    Same one on aliexpress € 64,26 22%OFF | Professional Wireless Weather Station with PC connection, weather forecast, wind speed, rain guage
    https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/oXn35ooY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Just wondering if anyone can help me,have a maplin Gadget wireless weather station with easyweather software.Anyway it won't read rainfall anymore,it just keeps saying 0.00 the whole time on the screen,I had a look at the rain gauge itself to see could it be blocked or something and can't find any problems,just wondering could it be a sensor problem and if there is any place to get parts for this station


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    Just wondering if anyone can help me,have a maplin Gadget wireless weather station with easyweather software.Anyway it won't read rainfall anymore,it just keeps saying 0.00 the whole time on the screen,I had a look at the rain gauge itself to see could it be blocked or something and can't find any problems,just wondering could it be a sensor problem and if there is any place to get parts for this station
    Could be the Reed switch on the circuit board that is shot.
    Any issues I had with my rain gauges over the years was due to a broken Reeds.
    They can be replaced but you need to be good at soldering and have a steady hand. I’d imagine you could get a replacement circuit board which would be a lot easier to change.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rolion wrote: »
    Hello,

    Thanks for sharing info.

    I'm looking for a PWS that does all the basic things but needs to have wind and UV sensor reports.
    Reporting / uploading to online site nice feature too.
    Rechargeable batteries nice one but I can run a cable and get a AC adapter.
    A webcam incorporated or added as a second feature will be nice.

    Found a nice Acurite Atlas station, does all the things I want...
    Main issue that I found so far is that the wireless frequency is not approved for use in EU but rather only US.
    Someone said that is illegal and it could affect some GSM band devices.

    Their website is not accessible from EU either so I found some video :


    What options do I have, please !?
    No budget set in my mind, quite flexible here..

    Thanks
    One year later, this particular device is still unavailable in the EU, they are selling on ebay for about €350-400 from US sellers, as the radio link uses an unapproved frequency, there is a risk of it being stopped by customs.

    I am now looking for another station as the current one has expired, have to decide whether I can afford to invest in something more durable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Thats the one I want as well, but the frequency is an issue.

    Edit: Certainly in the UK, it isn't just an "unapproved" frequency, its actually illegal to use. Clashes with the mobile bandwidth, I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    2 points
    Customs wont be reading the frequencies small print or have a list of banned frequencies
    It's only 50 to 100 metres broadcast signal inside your garden

    If you want that weather station, my advice is to order it tbh


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    2 points
    Customs wont be reading the frequencies small print or have a list of banned frequencies
    It's only 50 to 100 metres broadcast signal inside your garden

    If you want that weather station, my advice is to order it tbh
    I wouldn't be too sure of that, a couple of years ago I bought a WI-Fi extender on Ebay, it was stopped at customs and the device sent for analysis to verify it was compliant. One Month later it was sent on to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I wouldn't be too sure of that, a couple of years ago I bought a WI-Fi extender on Ebay, it was stopped at customs and the device sent for analysis to verify it was compliant. One Month later it was sent on to me.

    Hmmmm, I can understand a wifi extender,its a blatant broadcasting device
    A weather station wouldn't raise that flag surely?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    2 points
    Customs wont be reading the frequencies small print or have a list of banned frequencies
    It's only 50 to 100 metres broadcast signal inside your garden

    If you want that weather station, my advice is to order it tbh
    I did a bit of digging and found this site,
    https://the-gadgeteer.com/2018/11/04/acurite-atlas-weather-station-review/
    it appears that it uses the 433 MHz band, this is the 70cm amateur radio band that is also used by low powered devices such as remote door openers.
    So I don't see the frequency being an issue, maybe it fails on harmonics or something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Is it banned EU wide or just the UK&Ireland ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭limnam


    Does the Davis Vantage Vue Weather Station come with the pole? or is that something that needs to be purchased separate ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    You'll need to purchase that separate or make one up yourself
    Cheapest would be an 8 foot wooden fence stake preferably a king post and drive that into the ground or set cement around it in a 2 foot hole,covering later with soil when its set


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Just don't forget about pole diameter limitations.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    Hi folks. Just looking for some advice. I'm looking to dip my toe into the weather station world and I'm a bit lost TBH. I have a budget of about €200 and would like something I can view through an app. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Been looking at this model myself which is within that sort of budget, it is also compatible with external plugin for weather view

    Aercus Instruments Weather Station Wireless Professional WS2083


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    I've had a WH1080 weather station for 8 or 9 years. I had the data uploading to wonderground and a freebee website I made myself. Sensors gradually stopped working about 2 years ago. I've recently ordered a whole new system, WH3000 SE. It should be here in the next day or 2 hopefully.

    I used to use cumulus and since I've mow got a newer laptop I had to download the software again, cumulus MX. Only problem I'm having is installing the software, it seems to run in CMD prompt only?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Use weather display
    Way better

    http://www.weather-display.com/index.php


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    OK, I've ordered the Froggit WH3000 SE from them directly. Strangely enough, they don't sell the mounting poles so had to order that separately from amazon. I'll let you know what I think of it once I get a play with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    mayo.mick wrote: »
    I've had a WH1080 weather station for 8 or 9 years. I had the data uploading to wonderground and a freebee website I made myself. Sensors gradually stopped working about 2 years ago. I've recently ordered a whole new system, WH3000 SE. It should be here in the next day or 2 hopefully.

    I used to use cumulus and since I've mow got a newer laptop I had to download the software again, cumulus MX. Only problem I'm having is installing the software, it seems to run in CMD prompt only?

    Legacy Cumulus is here: https://cumuluswiki.org/a/Software#Cumulus_1

    You can copy over all the old Cumulus data from your old laptop and keep it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Weather station arrived this morning and I got everything set up.
    Uploading to wunderground, weathercloud and Ecowitt weather.

    I've a bit of work to do on my website before I get it uploading there. Very happy with the new display, very snazzy!

    I also got it uploading to a new twitter page I set up for it, https://twitter.com/SwinfordWeather


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    mayo.mick wrote: »
    Weather station arrived this morning and I got everything set up.
    Uploading to wunderground, weathercloud and Ecowitt weather.

    I've a bit of work to do on my website before I get it uploading there. Very happy with the new display, very snazzy!

    I also got it uploading to a new twitter page I set up for it, https://twitter.com/SwinfordWeather


    Looks great, best of luck with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    On a related note,I've a 2 year old dell machine that freezes after about 8 hours if using it to run 24/7 for weather tweets

    I don't hear its fan ever,do I have any comeback with dell?
    Standard 12 month guarantee was provided
    I did not buy an extension but surely this comes under 'fit for purpose ' in online buying rules somewhere?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    On a related note,I've a 2 year old dell machine that freezes after about 8 hours if using it to run 24/7 for weather tweets

    I don't hear its fan ever,do I have any comeback with dell?
    Standard 12 month guarantee was provided
    I did not buy an extension but surely this comes under 'fit for purpose ' in online buying rules somewhere?

    Good luck trying that. A decent PC tower is very cheap these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    mayo.mick wrote: »
    Weather station arrived this morning and I got everything set up.
    Uploading to wunderground, weathercloud and Ecowitt weather.

    I've a bit of work to do on my website before I get it uploading there. Very happy with the new display, very snazzy!

    I also got it uploading to a new twitter page I set up for it, https://twitter.com/SwinfordWeather

    Great job. Is it reporting station pressure because it's saying 1003 hPa, which would imply you're at about 175 m amsl? Is that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Great job. Is it reporting station pressure because it's saying 1003 hPa, which would imply you're at about 175 m amsl? Is that right?

    I need to check, might need to calibrate. I'm at 72m ASL according to google maps, but on one of the sites I'm uploading to, I put in my location on their map and they have me at 68m ASL (no wonder I do be dizzy:D ).

    My next headache now is to get it uploading to my website. Years ago I had it reporting from wunderground I think it was, in a flash player iframe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Cumulus can upload weather data to your own website via ftp, if set up to do so. However, if your website accepts only secure ftp connections, you must use third-party tools. I had that problem, so my own weather page data is uploaded by freeware WinSCP.

    By the way, I think your weather station is the closest one to my own one at the moment. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    joujoujou wrote: »
    Cumulus can upload weather data to your own website via ftp, if set up to do so. However, if your website accepts only secure ftp connections, you must use third-party tools. I had that problem, so my own weather page data is uploaded by freeware WinSCP.

    By the way, I think your weather station is the closest one to my own one at the moment. :)

    Yeah, I'm not too far from you. Have been following yours when i set up mine originally around 2012/13!

    When I decided to get my weather station back up and running again, I didn't expect this much hassle! I thought it would be more or less "plug & play". To the most part it is, bit time consuming getting set up and creating the different accounts for the station to report to.

    I'd done a bit of research while I was waiting for my WH3000 SE to arrive. I set up the various accounts beforehand and even set up a twitter page for the station to automatically report to.

    https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ISWINE1

    https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details?site_id=276ad5e8-203e-ea11-8454-0003ff59ab13

    https://twitter.com/SwinfordWeather

    I also found a plugin for my website that would work for my weather station and had some very nice page templates to use on my website. So far so good..... or so I thought!

    Weather station arrived, got everything set up in place of the old WH1080. 1st difference was this is all worked on wifi. No usb ports, no need to connect to a pc. That ruled cumulus out. Everything is set up from an app you have to install on your phone. OK, download app and have everything set up pretty quickly and easily.

    Now to set it up with my own website. The plugin I'd installed, needs to connect with Ambiant weather, the one service my weather station doesn't connect too.

    Back to google I go (what did we ever do before google!) to see if I can connect wunderground data with my site. There seems to have been major changes there recently, but after a lot of research I've found that I can gather the data my station is uploading and show it on my own website through an "API".

    This is a little beyond my skills so I've had to get the BIL involved. So now, he's developing a plugin that will pull in the data from wunderground and display it on my own website.

    To be continued.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    GolfNut33 wrote: »
    OK, I've ordered the Froggit WH3000 SE from them directly. Strangely enough, they don't sell the mounting poles so had to order that separately from amazon. I'll let you know what I think of it once I get a play with it.

    Ok, she arrived yesterday and working away very nicely and very easy to setup and understand.

    What's the best app/site to upload data to?


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    weather underground is the site I use www.wunderground.com
    I believe that many stations only allow one site at a time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    weather underground is the site I use www.wunderground.com
    I believe that many stations only allow one site at a time.

    That's currently off line for adding new stations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    GolfNut33 wrote: »
    Ok, she arrived yesterday and working away very nicely and very easy to setup and understand.

    What's the best app/site to upload data to?

    I have mine uploading to

    https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ISWINE1

    https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observa...4-0003ff59ab13

    https://app.weathercloud.net/d2948079482#current


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    weather underground is the site I use www.wunderground.com
    I believe that many stations only allow one site at a time.

    Think they're having some issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I like the new weatherlink live device from Davis and the much improved App
    Its pricey though but I'm very tempted

    https://youtu.be/JA5mYuFSKno


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Ok I splashed out
    You need pro about 4 euros a month to change the updates to everybody to 5 min intervals and to store your data and give everyone access to it

    On your home wifi the app becomes like the console on your phone with 2.5 second updates on all data
    You mainly notice this on wind speed

    I've had a few issues which I'll be getting on to the place I bought it from tomorrow

    For example theres no reset button and according to Davis no way to delink it from one account and add a different one
    That cannot be true
    I think I got a bad Davis webchat agent
    The webchat service is dreadful bad

    I'm attaching a screengrab of the main app page
    This and the chart data can be embedded in your own website
    Anything embedded will update every 5 mins if you have pro
    But it can't talk to twitter
    More later


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Davis are horrendous bad at support for their weather stations since the company has been bought out
    Their webchat is a joke and they will answer emails a week late and not follow up
    Ring them in the United states and you are put on hold for Ages


  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    I agree. I have had a Vantage Pro for years. You are, effectally, on your own. And spares cost a leg and an arm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    I bought 3x TP1080WC in Maplin or somewhere more than 10 years ago.

    Had one running in the centre of Galway for years and there's still one in place, that is connected the Galway VHF Group APRS digipeater. (Ham radio gear, for those who don't know).

    Well ... One of those was still on the shelf, never unpacked.

    Spend yesterday unwrapping and assembling it.
    49716183356_a55097f220_c.jpg

    Integrated it into my OpenHAB installation (using pywws and MQTT)
    49716843591_87fd84e63d_c.jpg

    And added the configuration to export the data into a database
    49716013868_91fba23b55_c.jpg

    Calibration is done and it's now on the Weather Underground Wundermap.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    mayo.mick wrote: »
    I need to check, might need to calibrate. I'm at 72m ASL according to google maps, but on one of the sites I'm uploading to, I put in my location on their map and they have me at 68m ASL (no wonder I do be dizzy:D ).

    My next headache now is to get it uploading to my website. Years ago I had it reporting from wunderground I think it was, in a flash player iframe.

    Well, after 2 months, alot of head scratching and a bit of hair loss, i've finally managed to get my weather station reporting live on my own website!

    A bit of a workaround, but its more or less what I wanted. I've a bit of dickying up but it will do for now!

    https://michaelmaye.com/swinford-weather-station/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Guys I finally put my blessed 5-1 up but it's not receiving data from the sensor.

    It's about 30 feet away from the base but is over a hedge(just). Does it need line of site.
    I can raise it if needed.
    I tried setting it up beside each other but still no joy.

    TIA


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