Corona Virus & cycling impact (see mode note post 1322)

05-04-2020 10:37pm

We had a Tour de Back Garden this evening. Me on the BMX, eldest on her bike and the 2 year old in her car driven Flintstones style.

I had no chance , there was sticky bottles for girls from team car mammy all over the place :mad:

eeeee · 06-04-2020 12:04am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We had a Tour de Back Garden this evening. Me on the BMX, eldest on her bike and the 2 year old in her car driven Flintstones style.

I had no chance , there was sticky bottles for girls from team car mammy all over the place :mad:

Again, when are the adorable chronicles of the Enfilade fam and mini Cram coming out?
We need them now more than ever

06-04-2020 12:34am

eeeee wrote: »

Again, when are the adorable chronicles of the Enfilade fam and mini Cram coming out?
We need them now more than ever

Ah now I'd have to fill the "adorable chronicles" out with the facts. Like the 6 year old being off school now and discovering the 2 year olds buggy is about here and treating it like an old friend and hopping in for snooze when it suits her much to the annoyance of Alice. Dad she's in the buggy again!!!!!

eeeee · 06-04-2020 1:05am

Awwwwwww!

Chapter 2 has dropped

secman · 06-04-2020 7:18am

Stiff as a board from a gardening weekend and no cycling, dont have a turbo...

Wishbone Ash · 06-04-2020 7:27am

hesker wrote: »

I fully agree with all you say and that is contained within the directive Brief and Within 2km.

And that is how this thread started out....

It started out in February with how Covid-19 would affect pro racing as two stages of the UAE Tour were cancelled.

It only became busy after the 2k restriction for the great unwashed was announced.

bazermc · 06-04-2020 8:46am

Eamonnator wrote: »

Anyone else get the feeling, that we're going around in circles here, one with a radius of 2km?

Yes but it ain’t brief.

buffalo · 06-04-2020 9:19am

I cycled to the shop this morning. NO REGRETS!

CramCycle · 06-04-2020 10:37am

eeeee wrote: »

Again, when are the adorable chronicles of the Enfilade fam and mini Cram coming out?
We need them now more than ever

Mini Cram was gifted a pair of roller skates after someone deicded this was a good idea. His first action when my back was turned and I left him sitting was to get the scooter as a balance aid. Thankfully the car was in the driveway to stop him.

Grand Mini Cram has learned that if he feeds the dogs from baby seat they treat him like a god and he is loving the power he feels. He can't crawl yet but has discovered how to move backwards using just his arms and can now traverse the room in seconds much to the annoyance of his mother.

Tim76 · 06-04-2020 10:54am

If they want people to keep exercise within a certain time limit then they need to clearly define what that time limit is instead of using ambiguous phrases like "brief".

If they aren't too bothered how long people go out for then vague language like this is certainly the way to go.

Personally, I think that the time allowed and the frequency (i.e. one session a day) needs to be clarified otherwise people will just take the p*ss.

eeeee · 06-04-2020 11:15am

CramCycle wrote: »

Mini Cram was gifted a pair of roller skates after someone deicded this was a good idea. His first action when my back was turned and I left him sitting was to get the scooter as a balance aid. Thankfully the car was in the driveway to stop him.

Grand Mini Cram has learned that if he feeds the dogs from baby seat they treat him like a god and he is loving the power he feels. He can't crawl yet but has discovered how to move backwards using just his arms and can now traverse the room in seconds much to the annoyance of his mother.

This is the content we need right now!
I'm imagining a mini Cram and grand mini Cram alliance of divlement forming.

And more adorable adventures of the Enfilade clan.
And mini tales in general.

Including errant pets.

No pressure

RobFowl · 06-04-2020 11:45am

Commuted to work. 20 kms and letters in back pocket in case i'm stopped (essential worker).
No abuse or anything but so little traffic it's creepy.
Furthest I've been from the house on the bike since the lockdown was announced.

silverharp · 06-04-2020 12:13pm

Media being fake again

https://twitter.com/jfparis/status/1247101337906659329

Seth Brundle · 06-04-2020 1:50pm

Elsewhere in the UK...

https://twitter.com/PeterStuart3/status/1247100943696637954

Mc Love · 06-04-2020 1:51pm

Went for a brief (15-20 min) cycle this morning. Did me the absolute world of good, and I feel much better as a result. I was nervous and apprehensive but there was nobody about bar one walker (around 7am). Not one single car passed me

railer201 · 06-04-2020 2:33pm

Anyone interested in knocking up a DIY cotton mask for themselves and they seem to be coming into vogue listening to the news atm, here's a handy design incorporating 3 cotton layers. Washable and re-usable too.

More in depth discussion on masks in a thread over on the Corona Virus sub-forum so that's not the intention here - except to link to the YouTube video for those interested in making one or more.

There are other designs aplenty of course on YouTube to choose from - I just like the appearance of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FB--BOyTiU

terrydel · 06-04-2020 3:25pm

Tim76 wrote: »

If they want people to keep exercise within a certain time limit then they need to clearly define what that time limit is instead of using ambiguous phrases like "brief".

If they aren't too bothered how long people go out for then vague language like this is certainly the way to go.

Personally, I think that the time allowed and the frequency (i.e. one session a day) needs to be clarified otherwise people will just take the p*ss.

They are working off the assumption that people have the general cop on to work it out for themselves, and not be the selfish ars*s they clearly have decided to be.
Obviously these people now need to be spoon fed because they cant manage it themselves.

Dubba · 06-04-2020 4:16pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/taoiseach-lifting-restrictions-5067729-Apr2020/

"Varadkar said he does not feel there is a need to arrest people for failing to comply with Covid-19 restrictions as there has been widespread compliance."

Clearly the number of people who are flouting the rules are only a tiny minority.

Large bottle small glass · 06-04-2020 9:01pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/dad-got-the-spanish-flu-clonmel-man-104-sees-historic-lessons-1.4221438?mode=amp

He was cycling up to about 6 or 7 years ago.

About 10 years or so he was doing a 3 day cycle from Galway to Clonmel, via Portumna and Nenagh I think.

At the end of day 2 he got to Nenagh early so decided not to bother with B&B and cycled home!!

I forget why he quit cycling, I must ask

coastwatch · 06-04-2020 9:29pm

Large bottle small glass wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/dad-got-the-spanish-flu-clonmel-man-104-sees-historic-lessons-1.4221438?mode=amp

He was cycling up to about 6 or 7 years ago.

About 10 years or so he was doing a 3 day cycle from Galway to Clonmel, via Portumna and Nenagh I think.

At the end of day 2 he got to Nenagh early so decided not to bother with B&B and cycled home!!

I forget why he quit cycling, I must ask

Thanks for that.
That's a real tonic for these times.
He's 104, has seen it all before, and the photo of him charging his electric car!

We'll get through this.

Wishbone Ash · 06-04-2020 10:06pm

I was preparing PPE orders for distribution today (as there was no one else to do it).

It seemed a bit grim adding body bags with the sanitiser, gowns, visors, masks etc.

EAD · 06-04-2020 10:08pm

Large bottle small glass wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/dad-got-the-spanish-flu-clonmel-man-104-sees-historic-lessons-1.4221438?mode=amp

He was cycling up to about 6 or 7 years ago.

About 10 years or so he was doing a 3 day cycle from Galway to Clonmel, via Portumna and Nenagh I think.

At the end of day 2 he got to Nenagh early so decided not to bother with B&B and cycled home!!

I forget why he quit cycling, I must ask

Legend in my home from when I was a kid hearing about his epic spins. Learned to always check wind direction from those stories.

eeeee · 06-04-2020 10:43pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I was preparing PPE orders for distribution today (as there was no one else to do it).

It seemed a bit grim adding body bags with the sanitiser, gowns, visors, masks etc.

Jesus that is grim

buffalo · 07-04-2020 7:56am

It's hilarious how much joggers are the new cyclists:

A chara, – Up to 50 per cent of joggers I am seeing are not adhering to the two-metre guideline from the HSE when overtaking pedestrians.

It is disturbing watching some of them puffing and panting as they approach a pedestrian from behind and then brush shoulders as they overtake.

May I suggest to the HSE, that it tells all joggers they must wear high-vis clothing and must get on to to the road and provide the two-metre space when overtaking.

If a car is coming and it is too dangerous to get on the road, they should either stop or jog on the spot. – Is mise,

ALEX STAVELEY,

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/struggling-to-combat-covid-19-1.4222366

"Joggers are breaking the rules! They should wear hi-viz! Don't jog on the footpath! Don't block the traffic on the road!"

Tim76 · 07-04-2020 8:54am

terrydel wrote: »

They are working off the assumption...

And that's the problem right there.

When you are working with large groups of people you need to use clear and concise language and avoid any room for interpretation.

They don't say you should stop at a red light light or that parking at the side of any given street is allowed for a brief time only. Specific instruction is given.

Relying on the "cop on" of the general public is a dangerous game.

07-04-2020 9:10am

ronoc wrote: »

Some of the commentry here is way over the top.

I live near a popular route and according to Strava and my own observations walking it it has been deserted. People are heeding the warnings.

People need to step away from their keyboards and hop on their turbos. You arent helping.

ps. 7 days on the roads are still virtually deserted around here. ( I walk them everyday) If anything I see slightly more cars on the road since the lock down started.

I have seen an increase in families with their children cycling on the roads due to less traffic which is great to see.

Stark · 07-04-2020 9:47am

buffalo wrote: »

It's hilarious how much joggers are the new cyclists:

"Joggers are breaking the rules! They should wear hi-viz! Don't jog on the footpath! Don't block the traffic on the road!"

The RSA approach to infection control. "You need to make yourself seen by the coronavirus so it won't infect you. Here's a ****ty vest".

eeeee · 07-04-2020 10:22am

ronoc wrote: »

ps. 7 days on the roads are still virtually deserted around here. ( I walk them everyday) If anything I see slightly more cars on the road since the lock down started.

I have seen an increase in families with their children cycling on the roads due to less traffic which is great to see.

Same for me.
I live beside a park luckily, and loads of families pedalling along. Hopefully they stick at it once we're over this.

Also seeing a lot of kids learning to drive, load of cars driving strangely in the middle of the road or stalling with a young driver and presumably a parent beside them. I'd say the parental blood pressure is through the roof :pac:

rolling boh · 07-04-2020 10:32am

This weekend will be a big test to judge the compliance rates .Good weather and less people working from home will have a lot of people tempted to venture out maby further than normal .

Chips Lovell · 07-04-2020 11:10am

Tim76 wrote: »

Relying on the "cop on" of the general public is a dangerous game.

The Taoiseach said pretty much the opposite yesterday, that the general public is exercising cop on:

He said the vast majority of Irish people have been abiding by the regulations that have been put in place whether it's self-isolating for 14 days or obeying the rules around social distancing.

Mr Varadkar added: "I'm sort of glad as a country that we've been able to do that by consent.

"We have regulations on the table ready to sign if we need to bring in the kind of enforcement powers that exist in other countries, but I don't want to be in a position whereby we're criminalising people for going two kilometres away from their home without an adequate excuse."

magicbastarder · 07-04-2020 11:51am

eeeee wrote: »

Also seeing a lot of kids learning to drive, load of cars driving strangely in the middle of the road or stalling with a young driver and presumably a parent beside them. I'd say the parental blood pressure is through the roof :pac:

we were out in the car the other day and saw what looked like someone getting a talking to at a garda checkpoint - L plate on the car, with a young lad at the wheel and an older person - parent, presumably - in the passenger seat.

Wishbone Ash · 07-04-2020 10:16pm

I've lost two of my limited number of KOM's in the past few days. Feckers with nothing better to do than do lap after lap until they've nailed it. Shouldn't be allowed during the lockdown.

magicbastarder · 07-04-2020 10:45pm

gardai are to be given the legal powers to enforce lockdown this evening, i suspect in anticipation of the easter weekend.

ted1 · 08-04-2020 12:14am

buffalo wrote: »

It's hilarious how much joggers are the new cyclists:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/struggling-to-combat-covid-19-1.4222366

"Joggers are breaking the rules! They should wear hi-viz! Don't jog on the footpath! Don't block the traffic on the road!"

I’m surprised at the lack of common sense. If there’s two people walking running together the person moving towards oncoming traffic should step onto the road.

Where there’s a path either side of the road. They should make them directional.

buffalo · 08-04-2020 7:22am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I've lost two of my limited number of KOM's in the past few days. Feckers with nothing better to do than do lap after lap until they've nailed it. Shouldn't be allowed during the lockdown.

Thanks for the inspiration! Might do that this weekend.

Tim76 · 08-04-2020 8:57am

Chips Lovell wrote: »

The Taoiseach said pretty much the opposite yesterday, that the general public is exercising cop on:

But no cop on when exercising, as seems to be the experience on the ground and certainly of the contributors to this thread.

Steve SilverMint · 08-04-2020 10:49am

Tim76 wrote: »

But no cop on when exercising, as seems to be the experience on the ground and certainly of the contributors to this thread.

I would disagree I follow plenty of cyclists on strava and the overwhelming majority are exercising sensibly. I’ve only noticed one break the 2km rule and that was someone running.

Loads taking to their turbos and some seem to have taken a break or turned to running.

I have noticed a small few out for over 2 hours which is not my understanding of brief and don’t feel it’s good form out of anyone to be putting in big mileage under the guidelines regardless of being within 2km from home. Of course it’s been left to personal judgement on that one, in my opinion anything over an hour is taking the piss.

rolling boh · 08-04-2020 12:03pm

Hopefully cyclists over the next few days keep it brief and local and don't turn up in droves at the usual popular places .It will mean all cycling will get targeted if the police see too many clearly well away from home .

Macy0161 · 08-04-2020 12:31pm

I'm actually seeing more runners pushing the 2km than cyclists in my strava feed to be honest. Close to unfollowing a few to be honest, as it's irritating me. They seem to be taking it as once they start from home it doesn't matter. Only real exceptions for cyclists are "essential" workers now doing long commutes on the bike.

I'm happy with my walks tbh, but I do accept it's a bit easier in a rural location, and most of my "training" is indoors anyway so it's probably not as mentally hard for me either. Not that I don't miss getting out, but I've never been anti-turbo.

I could have quite a challenging loop all within 2km, but I'd still be concerned about coming off. Also, my experience with those cars that are on the roads hasn't been that great - definitely assuming clear roads/ no cops and therefore flooring it. Had a few close passes walking with the children!

I am getting fed up with the commentary about "cyclists" though. I mean Wicklow Co Co has had to close pretty much all car parking anywhere near walks/ beaches, and some roads. Presumably to stop all the "motorists", but that doesn't get the negative commentary that a single idiot on a bike does.

Mercian Pro · 08-04-2020 1:31pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

I am getting fed up with the commentary about "cyclists" though. I mean Wicklow Co Co has had to close pretty much all car parking anywhere near walks/ beaches, and some roads. Presumably to stop all the "motorists", but that doesn't get the negative commentary that a single idiot on a bike does.

Maybe it's because I mainly rely on the Irish Times and RTE but I have seen far less cyclist bashing than normal. I have been watching out for it and dreading the usual anti-bike vitriol in the comments, but the main focus seems to be on those with holiday homes driving to remote locations and infecting the locals.

On the issue of people posting up big rides on Strava, it really would make you question the character of those involved and whether you could still regard them as friends once club spins eventually resume. Bad enough pushing the boundary of "brief" to two hours plus but also effectively bragging about it, encouraging others to do the same and expecting kudos!

Stark · 08-04-2020 1:37pm

Should read the journal. There was an article about new garda powers recently and every comment under the article was about cyclists.

benneca1 · 08-04-2020 1:48pm

Stark wrote: »

Should read the journal. There was an article about new garda powers recently and every comment under the article was about cyclists.

Maybe another good reason not to read the Journal

rolling boh · 08-04-2020 1:50pm

Listening to various phone shows over the last couple of weeks i heard little or no cyclist bashing when the subject of time out for exercise came up .Very surprising i thought as thats not the norm when any road matters are talked about .

JMcL · 08-04-2020 2:58pm

Piece with Drew Harris on RTE website where he specifically refers to cycling beyond the 2km limit:

He said gardaí were also seeing cyclists going further than 2km from their homes to exercise and said that had to stop.

Regarding the muppets who have already decamped to holiday homes, it sounds like the script is that now they're there, they're going to have to stay there.

Full article: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129218-coronavirus-legislation/

Mc Love · 08-04-2020 3:00pm

I hope thats true because they are truly fecked if they left all their WFH stuff at their residence.

Daroxtar · 08-04-2020 3:23pm

Stark wrote: »

Should read the journal. There was an article about new garda powers recently and every comment under the article was about cyclists.

The comments section in The Journal is one of those paradoxical things. How can people with such low intellect actually read and write?

hollowlands · 08-04-2020 3:25pm

Have noticed a few people on strava based in Derry coming out doing 3-4 hour rides around donegal. Including one who puts the virus emoji in every title and comments like "there is no border checks" and "clipped in not locked in"

smacl · 08-04-2020 3:42pm

hollowlands wrote: »

Have noticed a few people on strava based in Derry coming out doing 3-4 hour rides around donegal. Including one who puts the virus emoji in every title and comments like "there is no border checks" and "clipped in not locked in"

Garda Commissioner has called for public to make Gardaí aware of breaches, see https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129218-coronavirus-legislation/ These sound like ideal candidates.

sy_flembeck · 08-04-2020 4:54pm

JMcL wrote: »

Piece with Drew Harris on RTE website where he specifically refers to cycling beyond the 2km limit:

Regarding the muppets who have already decamped to holiday homes, it sounds like the script is that now they're there, they're going to have to stay there.

Full article: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129218-coronavirus-legislation/

I read this earlier myself and I also took from it that it's perfectly acceptable, in the eyes of the Gardai, to cycle within a 2km loop. Perhaps not for 3 or 4 hours (or 6 as I saw from one joker :rolleyes:) but acceptable nonetheless.

If he'd said that last week it would have taken about 10 pages off this thread

at1withmyself · 08-04-2020 5:00pm

On a positive type question - where do you miss the most?

In the past I have done sportiffs all over the country but now I either try Audux type rides or solo spins when exploring the country and for me I am looking most forward to spending a sunny day cycling around the Iveragh Peninsula in Kerry, did a lovely 200km route there a few years back and once its safe again I think that's where I'll be going (maybe not 200km straight away though!!!)

Corona Virus & cycling impact (see mode note post 1322)

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