Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

pad199207 · 12-01-2019 7:11pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

What?
Only yesterday, we were all being invited over to your gaff for the start

@ Gonzo,Shur isn't that ALL FI
Point here being,tiny nuances in weather we can't guess on make big differences

Did I say that?

lol

kod87 · 12-01-2019 7:24pm

highdef wrote: »

The latest GFS(P) run is sheer amazement! If we got anywhere near what it's showing, we'd be buried for days, at least. Nice to look at though :P

And apologies, I just realised I posted this in the wrong thread. Should've been in the FI thread....my bad!

30-40 cm for me, I'll take it, how much?

I am fully aware it's nonsense but nice to imagine

gabeeg · 12-01-2019 7:27pm

Pretty significant differences in the models at 96 hours

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SleetAndSnow · 12-01-2019 7:43pm

This chart from the ECM shows how the UK can be in the freezer while Ireland misses out, incase people are getting very hyped about reports on netweather and the likes. So just be weary about the forecasts you hear for UK cold.

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Cork Boy 53 · 12-01-2019 8:00pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Cork Airport's top 10 dullest months on record (not just December):

1. Dec 1991; 17.9 hrs
2. Dec 1977; 19.8 hrs
3. Dec 1987; 20.5 hrs
4. Feb 1985; 21.9 hrs
5. Nov 1983; 23.9 hrs
6. Jan 1992; 24.0 hrs
7. Dec 2015; 24.3 hrs
8. Nov 1968; 25.3 hrs
9. Jan 1966; 26.5 hrs
10. Jan 1968; 27.4 hrs

In the past 27 days (Dec 10th to Jan 4th), Cork Airport has recorded 16.2 hrs of sunshine (including 19 dull days and 14 consecutive dull days up to January 4th) which is just below that of December 1991 as shown above.

Data comes from Met Éireann.

I`m curious as to how much sunshine has been recorded at Cork Airport since last weekend. There have been a few sunny spells in my area (about 30 km from there) over the last 5 or 6 days so I assume there has been some there as well.

sideswipe · 12-01-2019 8:00pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

The direction of flow is north to south generally for the foreseeable with lows in the mix,some of which will slide,ergo engaging with the cold air feed,battle ground Ireland, what's not to like?

Glosea amongst others is showing the direction of flow from the northeast a lot of the time going forward, which is logical and ties in with all the anomaly charts,what's not to like about that?

There's not going to be uninterrupted cold,there will be milder interludes as lows interact a bit further north
Land sakes you'd want some moderation
Mother nature's looking out for you
You don't want the entire human race killed off
Lastly,will you enjoy the ride For heaven's sake

Wow, you don't half jump to conclusions. Who said I wasn't enjoying the ride? I was simply commenting on one chart (knowing well that one chart in FI does not a winter make) Booing one chart and cheering another is enjoying the ride as far as I'm concerned!

PS Incidentally the chart I was commenting on was edited out.

PPS How do you know I don't want the human race killed off?:cool:

force eleven · 12-01-2019 8:05pm

ECM says no at day nine, ten, for whatever that's worth. Getting model weary at this stage waiting for 'trends' and agreement between them. I remain unconvinced and sceptical of any significant cold spell upcoming between now and the end of January. I can't rule out February, for cold snaps, I can offer nothing theoretical or scientific except the feeling that if the wind is in the west still by then, the daffodils will be making headway. We've seen zero snow this winter, and hardly any frost, it just smacks of being one of those forgettable seasons.

esposito · 12-01-2019 8:38pm

force eleven wrote: »

ECM says no at day nine, ten, for whatever that's worth. Getting model weary at this stage waiting for 'trends' and agreement between them. I remain unconvinced and sceptical of any significant cold spell upcoming between now and the end of January. I can't rule out February, for cold snaps, I can offer nothing theoretical or scientific except the feeling that if the wind is in the west still by then, the daffodils will be making headway. We've seen zero snow this winter, and hardly any frost, it just smacks of being one of those forgettable seasons.

Fully agree with you. Getting weary and sceptical myself. I just have this bad feeling that we’re going to be unlucky this winter. Even a nights frost seems to be hard to get. *Sad face*

Calibos · 12-01-2019 8:44pm

esposito wrote: »

Fully agree with you. Getting weary and sceptical myself. I just have this bad feeling that we’re going to be unlucky this winter. Even a nights frost seems to be hard to get. *Sad face*

I don't recall any year where there was Snow on the beaches of both Athens and Bray in the same season.

Linky

irishrover99 · 12-01-2019 9:00pm

TBH you guys should have became wary of these charts back in the end of May and beginning of June when I can remember the possibility of snow showing not far out into FI.
FI is beginning to look like getting to the end of a rainbow.

Villain · 12-01-2019 9:08pm

Ah the fun is in the chase, seems some of ye want to throw the towel in before ye even get sweaty

sryanbruen · 12-01-2019 9:10pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I`m curious as to how much sunshine has been recorded at Cork Airport since last weekend. There have been a few sunny spells in my area (about 30 km from there) over the last 5 or 6 days so I assume there has been some there as well.

Cork Airport has recorded 2.4 hrs of sun this January so far up to the 11th (and that also equals to last weekend).

Liffey4A · 12-01-2019 9:16pm

I think MT did say recently that the models should be ignored for a couple of days until they get a handle on the SSW?
Netweather is an amazing place to watch human behaviour! Grown adults losing the plot because a computer algorithm spat out a different result than they wanted!
Personally I can't see anything much happening in the next week or so, it would be great if the cold shifted further West.
Who knows what February brings, still all to play for.
Many thanks to the guys who post the charts throughout the year and explain for us noobs what they are showing. It is much appreciated.

Spanish Eyes · 12-01-2019 9:19pm

After last March, all I can say is get the grog in, and the bread in the freezer. U will survive.

Cork Boy 53 · 12-01-2019 9:33pm

Liffey4A wrote: »

I think MT did say recently that the models should be ignored for a couple of days until they get a handle on the SSW?
Netweather is an amazing place to watch human behaviour! Grown adults losing the plot because a computer algorithm spat out a different result than they wanted!
Personally I can't see anything much happening in the next week or so, it would be great if the cold shifted further West.
Who knows what February brings, still all to play for.
Many thanks to the guys who post the charts throughout the year and explain for us noobs what they are showing. It is much appreciated.

I would say there is a better than average chance it will bring an Atlantic storm or two. A full month now since the last real stormy conditions so we will surely not go through the rest of the winter without getting any more.

CirrusBusiness · 12-01-2019 9:36pm

How to build an igloo, page 7..

Yikes, if that system delivers around the 22/23rd we'll be buried in it! Long ways away still in FI but that's a few similar outputs i've seen for then. Can't help but get a little amped. Fun week ahead for chart watchers. They don't call it a rollercoaster for nothing!

Ultimate Seduction · 12-01-2019 9:41pm

For a dummie like me this is really hard to follow. The charts in FI look like its going to be really cold with possible snow storms but the posts all seem so negative?

Not a fan of the cold or snow myself I've to Drive on a lot of unsalted rural roads on my commute, so loving this mild winter so far.

force eleven · 12-01-2019 9:47pm

Villain wrote: »

Ah the fun is in the chase, seems some of ye want to throw the towel in before ye even get sweaty

Especially those of us who've been chasing since Halloween...

Franz Von Peppercorn · 12-01-2019 9:58pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

For a dummie like me this is really hard to follow. The charts in FI look like its going to be really cold with possible snow storms but the posts all seem so negative?

Not a fan of the cold or snow myself I've to Drive on a lot of unsalted rural roads on my commute, so loving this mild winter so far.

Don’t think the negative posts were based on models, just hunches.

monty_python · 12-01-2019 10:22pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

For a dummie like me this is really hard to follow. The charts in FI look like its going to be really cold with possible snow storms but the posts all seem so negative?

Agreed. I enjoy reading the weather threads here but I've no idea how to read the charts.

It would be nice if someone posted a "dummies guide" for each chart

fryup · 12-01-2019 11:04pm

I ask you....is this the most boring winter ever??

No severe frost, no snow, no storms nothing...just meh weather

overcast mild boring weather for weeks un-end

Gavlor · 12-01-2019 11:05pm

fryup wrote: »

I ask you....is this the most boring winter ever??

No severe frost, no snow, no storms nothing...just meh weather

overcast mild boring weather for weeks un-end

Had to cut the grass today, in f€ckin January, global warming can do one!

JCX BXC · 12-01-2019 11:12pm

fryup wrote: »

I ask you....is this the most boring winter ever??

No severe frost, no snow, no storms nothing...just meh weather

overcast mild boring weather for weeks un-end

Agreed, it's ****e. Would make you lose interest in the weather.

sryanbruen · 12-01-2019 11:18pm

A Winter that I'd dread to experience was 1991-92 which was very mild, very dry and very dull. December 1991 was the dullest on record for some including Cork Airport but also the driest on record for most with little frost. Typical chart from that season:

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force eleven · 12-01-2019 11:27pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Well that was pointless now wasn't it?

It wasn't in 09'...

fryup · 12-01-2019 11:32pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Agreed, it's ****e. Would make you lose interest in the weather.

yep, there nothing to talk about to strangers while you're walking the dog or down the shops

makes half-talk very difficult

JCX BXC · 12-01-2019 11:45pm

fryup wrote: »

yep, there nothing to talk about to strangers while you're walking the dog or down the shops makes half-talk very difficult

Ah you can still manage it! When there's no weather to complain about we complain about the lack of weather!

km79 · 13-01-2019 12:01am

fryup wrote: »

yep, there nothing to talk about to strangers while you're walking the dog or down the shops makes half-talk very difficult

It's nice to be able to walk the dog and walk to the shops though....do a bit of outside work......dry clothes outside.......not be burning copious amounts of fossil fuels .......I'm loving it
Relativelly mild and dry. Winter heaven

Sycamore Tree · 13-01-2019 12:05am

I saw someone cutting his lawn today. To be fair, there is grass growth already.

JCX BXC · 13-01-2019 12:09am

km79 wrote: »

It's nice to be able to walk the dog and walk to the shops though....do a bit of outside work......dry clothes outside.......not be burning copious amounts of fossil fuels .......I'm loving it
Relativelly mild and dry. Winter heaven

Twasnt that here today anyway. Drizzle with gaps of about 15-30minutes.

Hideous.

km79 · 13-01-2019 12:10am

JCX BXC wrote: »

Twasnt that here today anyway. Drizzle with gaps of about 15-30minutes.

Hideous.

Cooler here but dry and great drying
Got a load of work done outside which needed doing
This winter has been very kind to me here for various reasons !

barney 20v · 13-01-2019 12:41am

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

I saw someone cutting his lawn today. To be fair, there is grass growth already.

Mowed mine today - great weather for it .

With a breakdown incoming and wet / cold weather on the way I took advantage of the dry weather while I could .

Thinking back to last March, this forum and the people on it led me to buy a tabogan from my local Halfords 5 days before the snow arrived .

My 10 year old and I made memories we'll both never forget !

Fingers crossed for all the cold lovers on here that they get some fun .😉

Oneiric 3 · 13-01-2019 12:47am

For me, this winter holds no redeeming qualities at all. No wind, no proper rain yet no drying, no fog despite the constantly high humidity, no frost, no nothing, and I see no real respite from this awful spell of weather on the charts at all. Yes, I know it is 'only' January 12th, but that still means that the guts of the best part of winter now behind us. Days will begin to lengthen significantly from here on in as we hurtle towards another boring spring followed by what probably will be another uncomfortably hot, featureless summer.

Maybe we will get some Beasty or Northy snow once again in Feb or March, but this just is not the same as experiencing the same sort of weather in December or January.

pad199207 · 13-01-2019 1:11am

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

For me, this winter holds no redeeming qualities at all. No wind, no proper rain yet no drying, no fog despite the constantly high humidity, no frost, no nothing, and I see no real respite from this awful spell of weather on the charts at all. Yes, I know it is 'only' January 12th, but that still means that the guts of the best part of winter now behind us. Days will begin to lengthen significantly from here on in as we hurtle towards another boring spring followed by what probably will be another uncomfortably hot, featureless summer.

Maybe we will get some Beasty or Northy snow once again in Feb or March, but this just is not the same as experiencing the same sort of weather in December or January.

To be fair that’s an awful lot to be expecting from an Irish climate ;-)

Oneiric 3 · 13-01-2019 1:29am

pad199207 wrote: »

To be fair that’s an awful lot to be expecting from an Irish climate ;-)

I speak as someone who holds no illusions about the Irish climate at all, but this current spell not only takes the proverbial biscuit, but the whole friggin' bumper pack.

irishrover99 · 13-01-2019 1:52am

pad199207 wrote: »

To be fair that’s an awful lot to be expecting from an Irish climate ;-)

Agree. I think expectations have been vastly increased due to our few red alerts.
This winter seems a bit better than usual but hardly out of the ordinary.

Gonzo · 13-01-2019 2:10am

I have to agree, so far this winter has been one of the worst I can ever remember in terms of cold. We are now half way through January and the last cold night we had was 31st of October, back in Autumn.

No frost or sub zero temperatures since Winter began, 74 relatively mild nights in a row, most days in double digit temperatures, no hail, sleet or snow anywhere below 500 meters.

Even if cold weather, frost and snow is not your passion, there has been almost no sun or dryness since 1st of November either. Sure we've had a few days without rain, especially over the past 3 weeks, but the ground at least here where I live, has remained somewhat damp the entire time, either from mist or drizzle.

I know the weather is about to get more interesting, we will surely get some frost or wintry precipitation over the next 2 weeks, but this first half of winter has been exceptionally bland, mild and non eventful even by Irish standards.

hawkwing · 13-01-2019 2:41am

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

I saw someone cutting his lawn today. To be fair, there is grass growth already.

First cut of silage in South Tipp,not joking.:o

IvySlayer · 13-01-2019 6:12am

Daffodils are coming up already in my area, they did this last year too before the snow

Graces7 · 13-01-2019 7:45am

fryup wrote: »

I ask you....is this the most boring winter ever??

No severe frost, no snow, no storms nothing...just meh weather

overcast mild boring weather for weeks un-end

Boredom? Nah. A mild winter when folk can walk, get out, enjoy life without being battered, frozen and generally being treated like cod!

Only folk lacking in resourcefulness get bored!

The weather has been and is lovely. Totally grand.

Get out there and dig the garden!

Graces7 · 13-01-2019 7:47am

Gonzo wrote: »

I have to agree, so far this winter has been one of the worst I can ever remember in terms of cold. We are now half way through January and the last cold night we had was 31st of October, back in Autumn.

No frost or sub zero temperatures since Winter began, 74 relatively mild nights in a row, most days in double digit temperatures, no hail, sleet or snow anywhere below 500 meters.

Even if cold weather, frost and snow is not your passion, there has been almost no sun or dryness since 1st of November either. Sure we've had a few days without rain, especially over the past 3 weeks, but the ground at least here where I live, has remained somewhat damp the entire time, either from mist or drizzle.

I know the weather is about to get more interesting, we will surely get some frost or wintry precipitation over the next 2 weeks, but this first half of winter has been exceptionally bland, mild and non eventful even by Irish standards.

Perfect and enjoyable .... bliss.... no need for costly heating.... great..
Bland is the wrong word. Just a dimension few seem to see...

Sycamore Tree · 13-01-2019 10:29am

hawkwing wrote: »

First cut of silage in South Tipp,not joking.:o

Wow. Would there be enough sugar levels in the grass now?

ronnie3585 · 13-01-2019 10:36am

Another grey misty day in Galway city. It feels like it’s been misting for a month, nothing but mist:(

Billcarson · 13-01-2019 10:50am

Thankfully later next week we are out of this rut finally. Turning colder and hopefully a trend into a cold spell.

Wine Goddess · 13-01-2019 11:53am

Great post explaining how to read charts and especially slider lows....something which was a mystery to me until now!

Link hopefully working now.......

https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/91150-model-output-discussion-7th-january-onwards/?do=findComment&comment=3960467

Rebelbrowser · 13-01-2019 11:55am

First sunny morning in Cork since 22 Dec I reckon.

pad199207 · 13-01-2019 11:57am

Certainly a wintery feel to the end of Met Eireanns forecast this morning.

“Wednesday: Rain will extend gradually eastwards across the country during the morning. Brighter conditions, with sunny spells, will follow from the Atlantic during the day, but a few scattered showers will develop in Atlantic coastal areas, becoming heavier and more frequent later, with a risk of hail, mainly along west and northwest coasts. Mild at first, but it will turn gradually colder, as southerly winds veer west to northwest in direction, the winds mostly light to moderate overland. Maximum afternoon temperatures 6 to 9 Celsius
Wednesday night will be dry in most areas, with clear intervals, but scattered showers will occur, mainly along northern, western and southwestern coasts, with a risk of hail and thunder. Very cold, with widespread frost. Min. minus 2 to plus 2 Celsius, coldest in the eastern half of the country. Fog patches possible also.

Thursday: Early indications suggest that Thursday will be mainly dry, with sunny spells, but cloud will increase gradually. Very cold, in light northerly breezes. Maximum temperatures 4 to 7 Celsius. Very cold overnight, with a risk of sharp frost where breaks in cloud occur, especially in the north. Min. minus 3 to plus 3 Celsius. Risk of fog also, in near calm conditions.

Friday and weekend: Early indications suggest that it will remain quite unsettled and changeable, with a good deal of cloud and some rain or sleet at times. Still quite cold, with a risk of frost at night where breaks in cloud occur.”

highdef · 13-01-2019 12:05pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Certainly a wintery feel to the end of Met Eireanns forecast this morning.

“Wednesday: Rain will extend gradually eastwards across the country during the morning. Brighter conditions, with sunny spells, will follow from the Atlantic during the day, but a few scattered showers will develop in Atlantic coastal areas, becoming heavier and more frequent later, with a risk of hail, mainly along west and northwest coasts. Mild at first, but it will turn gradually colder, as southerly winds veer west to northwest in direction, the winds mostly light to moderate overland. Maximum afternoon temperatures 6 to 9 Celsius
Wednesday night will be dry in most areas, with clear intervals, but scattered showers will occur, mainly along northern, western and southwestern coasts, with a risk of hail and thunder. Very cold, with widespread frost. Min. minus 2 to plus 2 Celsius, coldest in the eastern half of the country. Fog patches possible also.

Thursday: Early indications suggest that Thursday will be mainly dry, with sunny spells, but cloud will increase gradually. Very cold, in light northerly breezes. Maximum temperatures 4 to 7 Celsius. Very cold overnight, with a risk of sharp frost where breaks in cloud occur, especially in the north. Min. minus 3 to plus 3 Celsius. Risk of fog also, in near calm conditions.

Friday and weekend: Early indications suggest that it will remain quite unsettled and changeable, with a good deal of cloud and some rain or sleet at times. Still quite cold, with a risk of frost at night where breaks in cloud occur.”

Awwwww, I was all excited, awaiting the moment where I read the word "snow"in the forecast. Sad now.... lol

Cork Boy 53 · 13-01-2019 12:22pm

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

First sunny morning in Cork since 22 Dec I reckon.

According to Met Eireann, Cork Airport has recorded 2.4 hours of sunshine in January up to last Friday. In my area we have had some some fairly long sunny spells at times since last Tuesday. No sunshine for over 2 weeks before then though.

Gonzo · 13-01-2019 12:43pm

horrible drizzly mucky morning here at Dunshaughlin, ground is very wet, not the sort of weather you can walk in without properly wrapping up to stay dry.

Winter 2018/2019 - General Discussion

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