Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Brussels Sprout · 19-09-2020 9:54pm

dark crystal wrote: »

Many Republicans said this, including notorious turncoat Lindsey Graham. In fact, he said 'you can playback this tape and quote me' after he made his position clear in 2016. Let's see what his position is in 2020...

The best appraisal of the character of Lindsey Graham by an ex-GOP strategist:

“People try to analyze Lindsey through the prism of the manifest inconsistencies that exist between things that he used to believe and what he’s doing now,” Schmidt says. “The way to understand him is to look at what’s consistent. And essentially what he is in American politics is what, in the aquatic world, would be a pilot fish: a smaller fish that hovers about a larger predator, like a shark, living off of its detritus. That’s Lindsey. And when he swam around the McCain shark, broadly viewed as a virtuous and good shark, Lindsey took on the patina of virtue. But wherever the apex shark is, you find the Lindsey fish hovering about, and Trump’s the newest shark in the sea. Lindsey has a real draw to power — but he’s found it unattainable on his own merits.”

AbusesToilets · 19-09-2020 9:54pm

Regular, predictable term limits are needed to depoliticise the SC. It also makes sense for the court to better reflect the general public, rather than being filled with pensioners for life.

Gbear · 19-09-2020 9:58pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

And this is exactly why the GoP need to act now. Polls are against a Trump victory, so they well never get another chance.

This could turn SCOTUS super conservative for a generation, regardless of the voting public.

It's a double-edged sword.

If they push too far the majority will snap back against them.

There's a backlash building, and between decades of failed economic policy, growing fascism from the far right, and the current civil rights and pandemic related unrest, if they take the piss now, they could be making a rod for their own back.

Perhaps the strategic move might be to nominate someone middle of the road (like a Garland or whatever an equivalent Republican choice would be), placate the Dems into not taking the nuclear option and, if not reversing progressive legislation, at least holding their ground on things like the 2nd amendment.

Of course, it's difficult to know what elected Republicans actually want.
So long as they can make an issue of abortion legislation and fearmonger about everything under the sun, it's a driving force to get their base out to vote. I certainly don't think Mitch McConnell gives a **** about abortion legislation, one way or the other.

On the more practical side of things, some federal appointments have been happy to act as lapdogs for Trump, but it's been notable that the supreme court have not followed suit, with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh being decidedly more sane in their decisions than the likes of Alito. Unless they appoint someone seriously corrupt, it's far from certain they can use the SC to destroy the rule of law and start dismantling democracy.

aloyisious · 19-09-2020 10:26pm

Gbear wrote: »

It's a double-edged sword.

On the more practical side of things, some federal appointments have been happy to act as lapdogs for Trump, but it's been notable that the supreme court have not followed suit, with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh being decidedly more sane in their decisions than the likes of Alito. Unless they appoint someone seriously corrupt, it's far from certain they can use the SC to destroy the rule of law and start dismantling democracy.

That's the truth of SC appointments. Trump cant reverse or sway the opinions of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, they are beholden to neither him nor the GOP. He's stuck with them for his life now.

letowski · 19-09-2020 11:09pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

That would turn a 53:47 Republican advantage into a 51:47 with 2 abstensions. Still works for Mc Connell.

If 1 more abstains, then its 50:47 with 3 abstensions. Still works for Mc Connell.

If 2 more abstain, then its 49:47 with 4 abstensions. Now thats still a simple majority. Is that sufficient? Mc Connell would argue Yes. Schumer would argue No. If that works for Mc Connell at 49:47, then with even more abstensions, it works all the way down to 47:47 for Mc Connell, because that would be a tie, and Pence would have a casting vote. Game over!

On the other hand, if those Reps who refuse to confirm actually vote against, instead of just abstaining, then today's 53:47 becomes 51:49 with Murkowski and Romney joining the Dem caucus. Mc Connell still wins, even if another one does the same. However, if 4 vote against instead of abstaining, then no confirmation could follow.

So, another 2 Rep Senators need to join the entirety of the Dem caucus, AND signal that they would vote against to stop Mc Connell. Thats a very big ask!

Susan Collins has indicated she won't vote for a SCJ before the 3rd of November. No surprise given that she is poised to lose her seat in the upcoming election in Maine. But she hasn't indicated whether she would defect or abstain.

https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins/status/1307412600397987842

Also given that the Arizona election between Mark Kelly and Martha McSally is a special one, I think Mark Kelly can be seated by Nov 30th for the start of the next cycle. He is way ahead in the polls right now.

So say after Nov. 30th, if you have Romney, Collins and Murkowski abstaining and Kelly seated, that's 49-48. That's assuming Romney and Murkowski do abstain (no indication yet).

But yes a big ask, but it could be very tight. Nevertheless, another media circus event no doubt on the horizon.

Frank Bullitt · 19-09-2020 11:34pm

Isn't Ted Cruz on the shortlist for a spot? Jesus Christ...imagine that.

hetuzozaho · 20-09-2020 12:09am

He's just started his rally...and is onto filling that seat. Seems a bit crass.

EltonJohn69 · 20-09-2020 12:38am

Gintonious wrote: »

Isn't Ted Cruz on the shortlist for a spot? Jesus Christ...imagine that.

You do know that his parents are scientists ??? That matters... a lot !!!

aloyisious · 20-09-2020 1:01am

Would the Trump family women have much sway on advice for his political decision-making and future where it comes to how U.S women would react to a nomination of a man versus that of a woman for the vacancy caused by RBG's death? He seems to rely on his daughter [and son-in-law] for advice so I suppose his wife would have his ear as well. Neither woman are part of the GOP Washington set, nor bound to it, except by membership of the Trump family as it arrived in Washington politics in the last 5 years.

ExMachina1000 · 20-09-2020 1:02am

hetuzozaho wrote: »

He's just started his rally...and is onto filling that seat. Seems a bit crass.

Good to see all wearing masks. Turned it off after 20 seconds. Same shīte on repeat

StringerBell · 20-09-2020 9:21am

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Good to see all wearing masks. Turned it off after 20 seconds. Same shīte on repeat

Were they all (or even the majority) wearing masks? That's an improvement.

hetuzozaho · 20-09-2020 9:44am

StringerBell wrote: »

Were they all (or even the majority) wearing masks? That's an improvement.

I feel they must have told people behind the podium where Trump was to wear them as it looked 100 per cent there. I guess that's good as most footage will show 100 per cent masks.

But on the shots of crowd in from of podium there were very few, just shots shown as crowd waited for him to arrive. Some good songs played! And the plane landing and pulling up to crowd did look pretty cool ha.

hetuzozaho · 20-09-2020 9:47am

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Good to see all wearing masks. Turned it off after 20 seconds. Same shīte on repeat

Yep same lies over and over for months now. They seemed to love it though. You'd have to think they are the minority as surely people arent that stupid. Gonna be so interesting either way in November!

20-09-2020 9:49am

It's not even worth being shocked any more but here he is praising the Police physically injuring journalists during the protests. He's basically treating it as a comedy moment. The usual folk will be in to defend it.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1307474591133167616?s=19

aloyisious · 20-09-2020 10:05am

A Fox News host had a discussion with Mike Allen co-founder of Axios AND Jamie Weinstein on what could happen if Trump and the GOP added a judge of their choice to the USSC. The discussion followed on from the report that Chuck Schumer had a phone conversation with other Dem senators over such a GOP move, what is now being called "The Nothing Is Off The Table" call.

One of the suggestions from MA was that the Dems [if they win the senate and presidency] may move to give Washington DC and Puerto Rico the status of statehood, meaning there'd be an extra 4 U.S senators. Adding extra judges to the USSC & scrapping the senate filibuster were on the MA theorized Dem wish-list as well.

At the moment, following on from a row between the DOJ and Puerto Rico dating from 2017 over the wording of a local resolution on Puerto Rico holding a referendum on whether to move from territorial status to one of statehood, the funding provided for by the U.S congress for a referendum has been withheld by the DOJ, blocking Puerto Rico from holding a statehood referendum. Puerto Rico has only one member of Congress as things stand now. https://thehill.com/latino/516976-puerto-rico-governor-asks-justice-department-to-reconsider-stance-on-statehood

PropJoe10 · 20-09-2020 10:51am

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not even worth being shocked any more but here he is praising the Police physically injuring journalists during the protests. He's basically treating it as a comedy moment. The usual folk will be in to defend it.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1307474591133167616?s=19

I assume this is the first step in trying to indoctrinate the youth of America so that they believe in the Great Leader, and pledge allegiance to him from this day forth.

Itssoeasy · 20-09-2020 11:06am

hetuzozaho wrote: »

He's just started his rally...and is onto filling that seat. Seems a bit crass.

Seems ? It is crass and they know that but as has been shown time and time again they don’t give a **** how something looks.

Capt'n Midnight · 20-09-2020 1:12pm

aloyisious wrote: »

Puerto Rico has only one member of Congress as things stand now

You do know that the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico can't vote when it really counts don't you ?

No taxation without representation was a very important milestone on the way to the Declaration of Independence.

But Trump & Co. are pretty much ignoring history and precedent when it suits them.

abff · 20-09-2020 2:54pm

Did I see somewhere that Tump has announced that he’s going to nominate a woman? No doubt it would be Ivanka if he thought he could get away with it. The fact that she’s not a lawyer might be the only thing to stop him.

aloyisious · 20-09-2020 3:03pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You do know that the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico can't vote when it really counts don't you ?

No taxation without representation was a very important milestone on the way to the Declaration of Independence.

But Trump & Co. are pretty much ignoring history and precedent when it suits them.

Ta for that. Actually no, I didn't, a failure on my part to fully check out what's available on the net, I just assumed as a member of congress she could. 122 years of failure from congress and administrations, maybe this is the year the kettle will boil over forcing them to cede what they got George the 3rd to cede to them. Trump needs the Latino vote in Florida.

aloyisious · 20-09-2020 3:14pm

abff wrote: »

Did I see somewhere that Tump has announced that he’s going to nominate a woman? No doubt it would be Ivanka if he thought he could get away with it. The fact that she’s not a lawyer might be the only thing to stop him.

There is a conservative judge [Amy Coney Barrett] on the lower benches on his reported list of possible nominees along with two other female judges and one male judge.

AbusesToilets · 20-09-2020 4:03pm

aloyisious wrote: »

A Fox News host had a discussion with Mike Allen co-founder of Axios AND Jamie Weinstein on what could happen if Trump and the GOP added a judge of their choice to the USSC. The discussion followed on from the report that Chuck Schumer had a phone conversation with other Dem senators over such a GOP move, what is now being called "The Nothing Is Off The Table" call.

One of the suggestions from MA was that the Dems [if they win the senate and presidency] may move to give Washington DC and Puerto Rico the status of statehood, meaning there'd be an extra 4 U.S senators. Adding extra judges to the USSC & scrapping the senate filibuster were on the MA theorized Dem wish-list as well.

At the moment, following on from a row between the DOJ and Puerto Rico dating from 2017 over the wording of a local resolution on Puerto Rico holding a referendum on whether to move from territorial status to one of statehood, the funding provided for by the U.S congress for a referendum has been withheld by the DOJ, blocking Puerto Rico from holding a statehood referendum. Puerto Rico has only one member of Congress as things stand now. https://thehill.com/latino/516976-puerto-rico-governor-asks-justice-department-to-reconsider-stance-on-statehood

The first thing they should do is a federal ban on gerrymandering. That would pretty much immediately rebalance things in their favor. NC for example, would go from 11-3 split for Republicans to roughly 50/50. The Republicans only maintain their numbers though chicanery.

extra gravy · 20-09-2020 4:32pm

aloyisious wrote: »

There is a conservative judge [Amy Coney Barrett] on the lower benches on his reported list of possible nominees along with two other female judges and one male judge.

Coney Barrett...a born again Christian. Just what the country needs :rolleyes:

bobbyy gee · 20-09-2020 4:55pm

trump supporters disrumot and intimidate early voters

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/trump-supporters-early-voting-virginia.html

looksee · 20-09-2020 5:07pm

bobbyy gee wrote: »

trump supporters disrumot and intimidate early voters

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/trump-supporters-early-voting-virginia.html

I wonder just how, in their tiny minds, they think this kind of activity will encourage people to vote for Trump? It would have the opposite effect on me.

kowloon · 20-09-2020 5:09pm

looksee wrote: »

I wonder just how, in their tiny minds, they think this kind of activity will encourage people to vote for Trump? It would have the opposite effect on me.

Might make some people not bother voting though. I wouldn't want people shouting at me up close with no mask right now.

VinLieger · 20-09-2020 5:12pm

looksee wrote: »

I wonder just how, in their tiny minds, they think this kind of activity will encourage people to vote for Trump? It would have the opposite effect on me.

They dont care, honestly they believe democrats and antifa or whatever this weeks big bad is are doing exactly the same as they are so they have to combat it. As usual with trumpettes its all about projection and the fear of the "enemy" whoever theyve been told it is now, they have been riled up to believe is coming to get them and their families.

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 6:04pm

https://mol.im/a/8752063

Influencing left want a violent response to people doing what they can do legally.

https://mol.im/a/8752641

People turning up at officials houses demanding they dont do what they were chosen to do.

https://mol.im/a/8752197

If you go back to when the Dems were in power Biden would have done the exact same thing that the elected officials arnt allowed do now according to the mob.

Its crazy that the mob cant think back past last week but think they should be allowed make violent intimidating snap judgements.

Its just like when Cuomo was telling Trump there was noway he would lock New York down and that Trump had no power to lock it down, but now Trump gets blamed for not locking New York down.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/28/ny-gov-cuomo-says-trump-has-no-authority-to-impose-quarantine.html

People are very polarised here when it doesnt matter to them who wins and they arnt all that different.

Defunding the police was a disaster in Minneapolis just 2 months after it was started.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://whatsnew2day.com/minneapolis-city-council-alarmed-by-rise-in-violent-crime-two-months-after-police-budget-cuts/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwim1oT4lPjrAhWRURUIHQoNAhYQFjANegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3HoSX78IC6yht8Y0s8-JPA&ampcf=1

The town council are blaming the chief of police for not defunding himself better it seems.

Theres also reports of the democrat policy of housing the homeless in the boutique hotels in new yorks upper west side has lead to the area turning into something like a mad max movie with mass exodus from the area of any tax paying people(alot of them democrats) to better run areas.

Oops they are defunding the police there as well.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/manhattans-upper-west-side-mass-exodus-as-residents-flee-the-city/

Why is it so important that the democrats get in nationally if this is how they operate at local level?

I honestly think internet people believe the proven moscow hotel room lies and the questionable accusations that seem to be rolled out with the help of the democrat party in the run up to every election. If the democrats knew the moscow hotel story was lies when they ran with it, what other lies are they telling?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pee-tape-trump-mueller-report-823755/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia

He is also bringing peace to the middle east and outside of the internet has been nominated twice for seperate peace deals he is brokering in the middle east and the balkans.

He hasnt started any new wars and seems like he wants to bring his boys home and let other countries shoulder the burden of keeping the world or oil supply line safe.

The taliban dont seem to be suicide bombing the western world anymore.

Are people really holding the grab them by the pussy tapes over him for all this time.

If he had of said he grabbed life by the balls would it been different?

Its quite bizarre all together, I think people take his press soundbites too serious and dont look at the great work himself and his team are doing. If a newspaper says he is doing good, people stop reading it and find one that says he is doing bad.

You can even see through forums around the world people that support him get banned off a thread for no real reason.

Sometimes I think if some people who spent all day argueing about Trump in a country that cant vote for him went outside and helped an elderly neighbour alot more good could be done than if Joe Biden was in charge.

You have to ask yourself, would you have backed anybody who was against Trump regardless of who they were?

If so your opinion shouldnt really count in my opinion.

kowloon · 20-09-2020 6:29pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

The taliban dont seem to be suicide bombing the western world anymore.

My favourite bit.

Igotadose · 20-09-2020 6:31pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Sometimes I think if some people who spent all day argueing about Trump in a country that cant vote for him went outside and helped an elderly neighbour alot more good could be done than if Joe Biden was in charge.

If I were in the US (where I can vote for Biden),
due to Covid, I'd like to get a test before I offered to help an elderly person. Due to the massive ineptitude and out-and-out evil behavior of the #IMPOTUS administration (no national testing centers,) this is very difficult. And, I'd wear a mask but that neighbor might feel emboldened by Trump to not wear one. Or they might not be able to.

Not sure what the point is you're trying to make about Ireland and Biden though. Can you clarify your thinking there?

TomOnBoard · 20-09-2020 6:31pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

https://mol.im/a/8752063

Influencing left want a violent response to people doing what they can do legally.

https://mol.im/a/8752641

People turning up at officials houses demanding they dont do what they were chosen to do.

https://mol.im/a/8752197

If you go back to when the Dems were in power Biden would have done the exact same thing that the elected officials arnt allowed do now according to the mob.

Its crazy that the mob cant think back past last week but think they should be allowed make violent intimidating snap judgements.

Its just like when Cuomo was telling Trump there was noway he would lock New York down and that Trump had no power to lock it down, but now Trump gets blamed for not locking New York down.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/28/ny-gov-cuomo-says-trump-has-no-authority-to-impose-quarantine.html

People are very polarised here when it doesnt matter to them who wins and they arnt all that different.

Defunding the police was a disaster in Minneapolis just 2 months after it was started.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://whatsnew2day.com/minneapolis-city-council-alarmed-by-rise-in-violent-crime-two-months-after-police-budget-cuts/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwim1oT4lPjrAhWRURUIHQoNAhYQFjANegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3HoSX78IC6yht8Y0s8-JPA&ampcf=1

The town council are blaming the chief of police for not defunding himself better it seems.

Theres also reports of the democrat policy of housing the homeless in the boutique hotels in new yorks upper west side has lead to the area turning into something like a mad max movie with mass exodus from the area of any tax paying people(alot of them democrats) to better run areas.

Oops they are defunding the police there as well.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/manhattans-upper-west-side-mass-exodus-as-residents-flee-the-city/

Why is it so important that the democrats get in nationally if this is how they operate at local level?

I honestly think internet people believe the proven moscow hotel room lies and the questionable accusations that seem to be rolled out with the help of the democrat party in the run up to every election. If the democrats knew the moscow hotel story was lies when they ran with it, what other lies are they telling?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pee-tape-trump-mueller-report-823755/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia

He is also bringing peace to the middle east and outside of the internet has been nominated twice for seperate peace deals he is brokering in the middle east and the balkans.

He hasnt started any new wars and seems like he wants to bring his boys home and let other countries shoulder the burden of keeping the world or oil supply line safe.

The taliban dont seem to be suicide bombing the western world anymore.

Are people really holding the grab them by the pussy tapes over him for all this time.

If he had of said he grabbed life by the balls would it been different?

Its quite bizarre all together, I think people take his press soundbites too serious and dont look at the great work himself and his team are doing. If a newspaper says he is doing good, people stop reading it and find one that says he is doing bad.

You can even see through forums around the world people that support him get banned off a thread for no real reason.

Sometimes I think if some people who spent all day argueing about Trump in a country that cant vote for him went outside and helped an elderly neighbour alot more good could be done than if Joe Biden was in charge.

You have to ask yourself, would you have backed anybody who was against Trump regardless of who they were?

If so your opinion shouldnt really count in my opinion.

This is just a random selection of dumped links without any coherent discussion or argument. It just a load of word salad! If we could see a coherent point being made that is backed up by sound arguments, then we could engage on it. Or not. Otherwise, it just comes across as a set of random, loosely connected thoughts.

TomOnBoard · 20-09-2020 6:39pm

abff wrote: »

Did I see somewhere that Tump has announced that he’s going to nominate a woman? No doubt it would be Ivanka if he thought he could get away with it. The fact that she’s not a lawyer might be the only thing to stop him.

bobbyy gee wrote: »

trump supporters disrumot and intimidate early voters

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/trump-supporters-early-voting-virginia.html

Is such election interference not totally illegal? Why were the nameless SWAT police not called out and the whole gang of them arrested?

Like, Trump IS claiming he stands for Law and Order???

Tell me how · 20-09-2020 7:00pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Is such election interference not totally illegal? Why were the nameless SWAT police not called out and the whole gang of them arrested?

Like, Trump IS claiming he stands for Law and Order???

'Accuse others of that which you are guilty.'

Time and time and time and time again that phrase comes to mind.

When this tactic is used efficiently, a good portion of the population are left thinking both sides are up to something and so it isn't really that bad, or one is as bad as the other. Either way, those genuinely misbehaving have gained an advantage.

StringerBell · 20-09-2020 7:01pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

This is just a random selection of dumped links without any coherent discussion or argument. It just a load of word salad! If we could see a coherent point being made that is backed up by sound arguments, then we could engage on it. Or not. Otherwise, it just comes across as a set of random, loosely connected thoughts.

I tapped out, couldn't make it through it. Was like a trump stream of consciousness moment

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 7:21pm

TomOnBoard wrote: »

This is just a random selection of dumped links without any coherent discussion or argument. It just a load of word salad! If we could see a coherent point being made that is backed up by sound arguments, then we could engage on it. Or not. Otherwise, it just comes across as a set of random, loosely connected thoughts.

It shows the madness of the anti Trump side and is totally backed up with links.

The left are calling for violence if Trump puts somebody in the judges seat.

Biden supported the same thing happening when he was the Vice President.

Then there is a pile of links showing how the extreme left policies are all failing.

Theres also a link showing Cuomo( a democrat) saying he is in charge of locking down New York and not Trump. He wouldnt lock it down until it was too late. Everybody blames Trump now for not locking it down.

It also shows the democrats accusing Trump of things they knew were false and still people on the left accuse him of.

Anyway Im not getting involved. Its all there. You can refuse to see it if you want. Im not going to reply much more because Id fear the ban hammer once I made anything that can be seen as a slight infraction of the rules.

Igotadose · 20-09-2020 7:46pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Anyway Im not getting involved. Its all there. You can refuse to see it if you want. Im not going to reply much more because Id fear the ban hammer once I made anything that can be seen as a slight infraction of the rules.

Sure you can't answer my question about helping the elderly neighbour? Trying to understand what your point is.

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 7:49pm

Igotadose wrote: »

Sure you can't answer my question about helping the elderly neighbour? Trying to understand what your point is.

You could go the shop for them. But I guess you are being intentionally difficult. Collect their prescription. Wash driveway. Cut their grass. Reassure them that the protestors wont cause total mayhem upsetting the supply of medication or smashing up their homes.

looksee · 20-09-2020 8:04pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

You could go the shop for them. But I guess you are being intentionally difficult. Collect their prescription. Wash driveway. Cut their grass. Reassure them that the protestors wont cause total mayhem upsetting the supply of medication or smashing up their homes.

Well you could, though it seems like very leftist things to be doing, but what does it have to do with having opinions on who runs the country?

Water John · 20-09-2020 8:15pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

You could go the shop for them. But I guess you are being intentionally difficult. Collect their prescription. Wash driveway. Cut their grass. Reassure them that the protestors wont cause total mayhem upsetting the supply of medication or smashing up their homes.

The only person upsetting their medication supply is Louis DeJoy (Dell Boy).

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 8:19pm

looksee wrote: »

Well you could, though it seems like very leftist things to be doing, but what does it have to do with having opinions on who runs the country?

Spending every waking hour on out of american jurisdiction website watching and tryung to influence people on who they should vote for is wasted time that a demcrat who believes in helping each other could spend better.

Spending every evening rioting isnt a great thing to do with ones time either I suppose.

Spending every evening refusing to work with the tools you are given and blaming everything on Trump even though you had nothing under Obama or Bush or Clinton is also not very american.

You can spend 4 years finding out the inner workings of the planning department to decide Biden is better than Trump on one little thing or just blame Trump on stuff anybody would have done exactly the same is just driving more support to Trump.

fullstop · 20-09-2020 8:25pm

StringerBell wrote: »

I tapped out, couldn't make it through it. Was like a trump stream of consciousness moment

I suspect his phone may indeed be broke.

johnnyskeleton · 20-09-2020 8:56pm

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Guy:Incognito · 20-09-2020 10:50pm

Not sure if this should be here or the election thread but wtf, is this a genuine account?

I was convinced it was parody or something but googling and replies to the tweets earlier about Biden seems to confirm its genuine.

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan

https://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1307760977060990983
Everything about Trump is like an evil child.

Headshot · 20-09-2020 10:59pm

That's quite funny, i was watching that statement by Biden and it's really refreshing to hear someone who's cognitive and he certain didnt run away but infact got on Segway and drove off like a boss

Christy42 · 20-09-2020 11:10pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

It shows the madness of the anti Trump side and is totally backed up with links.

The left are calling for violence if Trump puts somebody in the judges seat.

Biden supported the same thing happening when he was the Vice President.

Then there is a pile of links showing how the extreme left policies are all failing.

Theres also a link showing Cuomo( a democrat) saying he is in charge of locking down New York and not Trump. He wouldnt lock it down until it was too late. Everybody blames Trump now for not locking it down.

It also shows the democrats accusing Trump of things they knew were false and still people on the left accuse him of.

Anyway Im not getting involved. Its all there. You can refuse to see it if you want. Im not going to reply much more because Id fear the ban hammer once I made anything that can be seen as a slight infraction of the rules.

What is your opinion on Trump's stance on revelling about the press getting shot with rubber bullets for doing their job? Are you for or ambivalent towards this or just ignoring it?

Slight difference between Biden calling for a justice 4 years ago and now. For one Mitch's rule of not putting one in in an election year hadn't happened.

Two that people have already started voting while Scalia died over 200 days before the election.

Admittedly they don't help your point but I still consider them important.

Gotta love how quick Mitch can move when it is something important instead of something like the corona virus relief bill.

Man with broke phone · 20-09-2020 11:31pm

Christy42 wrote: »

What is your opinion on Trump's stance on revelling about the press getting shot with rubber bullets for doing their job? Are you for or ambivalent towards this or just ignoring it?

Slight difference between Biden calling for a justice 4 years ago and now. For one Mitch's rule of not putting one in in an election year hadn't happened.

Two that people have already started voting while Scalia died over 200 days before the election.

Admittedly they don't help your point but I still consider them important.

Gotta love how quick Mitch can move when it is something important instead of something like the corona virus relief bill.

If you slow things down and explain your points to me I will reply, to me it sounds like a few random things. Im not sure what you are asking but Im here with an open mind and if you explain what you mean I will hear them out.

TomOnBoard · 21-09-2020 12:25am

Man with broke phone wrote: »

You could go the shop for them. But I guess you are being intentionally difficult. Collect their prescription. Wash driveway. Cut their grass. Reassure them that the protestors wont cause total mayhem upsetting the supply of medication or smashing up their homes.

And.... This relates to Biden how???

StringerBell · 21-09-2020 12:57am

I see it being reported that Graham has shockingly done yet another 180 and said he will support trump in any effort to push forward on the nomination.

Americans have a thing about flip floppers and this is going to be one hell of an example of flip flopping from a whole lot of spineless, devoid of integrity bottom feeders.

TomOnBoard · 21-09-2020 1:26am

StringerBell wrote: »

I see it being reported that Graham has shockingly done yet another 180 and said he will support trump in any effort to push forward on the nomination.

Americans have a thing about flip floppers and this is going to be one hell of an example of flip flopping from a whole lot of spineless, devoid of integrity bottom feeders.

I can only assume that one of The Donald's people re-shared the iPhoto drive to Lindsey!

VinLieger · 21-09-2020 8:33am

https://twitter.com/BWJones/status/1307919432547618817

So much to unpack here.....

Firstly it looks like Trump has actually created international precedent for local ownership of US owned tech giants. It really makes you wonder if the people around him gave him the tiktok story as a kind of plaything to keep him amused telling themselves "well what damage can he really do with this?"

Next it looks like somehow the whole thing also was a completely pointless excercise as somehow Bytedance are still claiming they will own 100% of tiktok global.....

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