National: Severe Cold/ Snow Discussion (Thanks to all!)

ninebeanrows · 16-12-2010 12:25am #1

As per poll results the return of the National thread..

A severe spell of weather approaching, all general chat in here please

Absolutely no discussion of the national or regional thread debate.

JayzuzHowiye · 16-12-2010 12:26am

we're having lots of weather, aren't we?

619C · 16-12-2010 12:27am

Here is some more info
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/2010/12/update-upcoming-cold-spell-in-ireland.html

partyatmygaff · 16-12-2010 12:33am

Thank you for bringing things back to normal.

And now we await snowmaggedon!

KevIRL · 16-12-2010 12:35am

As a reader, but not often poster I say thanks for bringing this back to a single national thread.

You should probably think of unstickying it too. It will stay near the top of the forum anyway, and the more casual poster often doesnt pay attention to the stickies, so you could end up having to merge a lot more threads.

Cionád · 16-12-2010 12:37am

KevIRL wrote: »

You should probably think of unstickying it too. It will stay near the top of the forum anyway, and the more casual poster often doesnt pay attention to the stickies, so you could end up having to merge a lot more threads.

We're never happy, but I agree with this point.

whiteandlight · 16-12-2010 12:37am

Thanks for organising it. Off to bed now praying there's no downgrade overnight ...... :eek:

naughto · 16-12-2010 12:37am

not happy with this decision,but any way lookingforward to the snow and am excepting college to be closed on firday with a bit of luck

Cionád · 16-12-2010 12:39am

RTE2 now for Met

dfbemt · 16-12-2010 12:41am

Which is showing the centre moving away to our west and not hitting us as predicted by the GFS for Sat :eek:

anirishlad · 16-12-2010 12:42am

is it snowing tomorrow in connacht????

dfbemt · 16-12-2010 12:42am

Cionád wrote: »

RTE2 now for Met

She'd give Jean a run for her money but I didn't really like her forecast. Are met playing things down?

naughto · 16-12-2010 12:44am

http://www.emhi.ee/index.php?ide=19,394,416,418

seems to be be on track with this

leahyl · 16-12-2010 12:46am

dfbemt wrote: »

Which is showing the centre moving away to our west and not hitting us as predicted by the GFS for Sat :eek:

Oh Christ you're not serious! I need to go to bed! Actually no wait that's good if it's moving west - that means it could maybe hit the south and west more??:D

K night night - i don't think i'm gonna sleep a WINK tonight!

dave1982 · 16-12-2010 12:48am

Wow nice weather girl on 2

davidsr20 · 16-12-2010 12:50am

I think there is too much hype about the snow that we could be all let down badly,

naughto · 16-12-2010 12:51am

dfbemt wrote: »

She'd give Jean a run for her money but I didn't really like her forecast. Are met playing things down?

they never give a good irish report in the europen weather

Oscar Bravo · 16-12-2010 12:54am

And now lets head over to Met Eireann for the general and sea area forecast,Rte1 Radio 1/Sky 0160.

mickger844posts · 16-12-2010 12:55am

Going to post this in the general thread but i just went through some of MT Craniums posts as i wanted to confirm to myself when he first mentioned this event. On the 15th of November MT said

One of the better scenarios I foresee for snowfall comes with the December full moon and "northern max" event of 21 December. This is bound to produce an intense storm over western Europe and I am giving something like 2-1 odds for this to be a cold weather storm event with at least some snow or sleet in the mix for Ireland,

Brilliant call MT

ninebeanrows · 16-12-2010 12:57am

New SKY news graphics looks very very good.

laurence997 · 16-12-2010 12:57am

Lads, I can see it on the big screen:
SNOWMAGEDDON
The sellout blockbuster
Starring Thundersnow and also featuring polar lows.
Narrated by M.T. Cranium. Coming soon to a cinema near you!!!

snaps · 16-12-2010 12:59am

Cold air now in shetland Islands, its coming!!

amacachi · 16-12-2010 1:01am

Asked earlier on one of the other threads when the cold front would be hitting the Dublin area, anyone got a timeframe? I know it's tomorrow sometime but it'd be nice to know whether or not I'll be around when it happens.

leroythelegend · 16-12-2010 1:04am

I think the reason ME / RTE are slow to commit to this and give a good warning to the public is because they have been told not to. We all know there is a shortage of grit and salt in the country and we cant get anymore until next week. If they cant keep the roads open everyone will be going mental saying that they knew this was coming and they did nothing about it. But if they downplay it as much as possible they can give it the old "we really wern't expecting anything this bad blah blah".
That wouldn't happen in our lovely little country....

davidsr20 · 16-12-2010 1:05am

I just heard on rte weather that its not going to be as bad or as much snow as a few weeks ago so whos lying ???????

Iancar29 · 16-12-2010 1:07am

leroythelegend wrote: »

I think the reason ME / RTE are slow to commit to this and give a good warning to the public is because they have been told not to. We all know there is a shortage of grit and salt in the country and we cant get anymore until next week. If they cant keep the roads open everyone will be going mental saying that they knew this was coming and they did nothing about it. But if they downplay it as much as possible they can give it the old "we really wern't expecting anything this bad blah blah".
That wouldn't happen in our lovely little country....

I agree completly!

Santander · 16-12-2010 1:08am

davidsr20 wrote: »

I think there is too much hype about the snow that we could be all let down badly,

Sorry, not meaning to be rude or anything, but do you have any evidence to back up this opinion?? Just wondering.....

sunbabe08 · 16-12-2010 1:09am

what happened to the 4 provinces threads?

things look promising:D

thetonynator · 16-12-2010 1:09am

Rte are talking rubbish when they say it's not going to be as bad as last time, the forecasts are clearly showing more snowfall and no end in sight, there is really no way of knowing if it will be bad or worse until afterwards, certainly no point in comparing it to another cold spell.

dsmythy · 16-12-2010 1:10am

davidsr20 wrote: »

I just heard on rte weather that its not going to be as bad or as much snow as a few weeks ago so whos lying ???????

1-2-3-4 I declare a forecast war.

ArtSmart · 16-12-2010 1:11am

s'not fair. half-assed summer ,now this crap. i tells ye, it's not on. not on.

and who's gonna pay for the extra fuel to heat my house? dat's righ - ME. that's who.

bloody polar bears / hippies. whatevr

thetonynator · 16-12-2010 1:12am

sunbabe08 wrote: »

what happened to the 4 provinces threads?

things look promising:D

it was too messy so by common consent weathercheck went with this option instead. Anyone want to make bets on what hourly report will the cold front hit malin?! :P

Iancar29 · 16-12-2010 1:15am

dsmythy wrote: »

1-2-3-4 I declare a forecast war.

I can see it now... Front PAGE monday morning..

MET ÉIREANN HQ SNOWED UNDER
AFter them saying Snowchance of it being bad?

thetonynator · 16-12-2010 1:15am

ArtSmart wrote: »

s'not fair. half-assed summer ,now this crap. i tells ye, it's not on. not on.

and who's gonna pay for the extra fuel to heat my house? dat's righ - ME. that's who.

bloody polar bears / hippies. whatevr

the governments extra fuel allowance won't go far anyway, not that many of us are even getting it

alfa beta · 16-12-2010 1:18am

mickger844posts wrote: »

Going to post this in the general thread but i just went through some of MT Craniums posts as i wanted to confirm to myself when he first mentioned this event. On the 15th of November MT said

One of the better scenarios I foresee for snowfall comes with the December full moon and "northern max" event of 21 December. This is bound to produce an intense storm over western Europe and I am giving something like 2-1 odds for this to be a cold weather storm event with at least some snow or sleet in the mix for Ireland,

Brilliant call MT

nice one mick - was just about to do the same myself before I saw your post - I knew he called it a couple of weeks back and I was surprised at his level of certainty even then - but to even conceive of what the charts are now showing back on the 15th of november is seriously impressive.....actually it's a little bit scary. From now on I shall call him Nostradamium!

dak · 16-12-2010 1:23am

Saying as we will be all at home next week ( we hope !

) ...heres something for the adults..kids to do !

http://www.marcels-kid-crafts.com/snowflake-pattern.html

thetonynator · 16-12-2010 1:24am

I have noticed that a large number of people around here may be actually in love with Mr. M.T. Cranium. . . :P :P :P

lucy2010 · 16-12-2010 1:25am

leroythelegend wrote: »

I think the reason ME / RTE are slow to commit to this and give a good warning to the public is because they have been told not to. We all know there is a shortage of grit and salt in the country and we cant get anymore until next week. If they cant keep the roads open everyone will be going mental saying that they knew this was coming and they did nothing about it. But if they downplay it as much as possible they can give it the old "we really wern't expecting anything this bad blah blah".
That wouldn't happen in our lovely little country....

15 tonnes of grit left according to your man from NRA earlier - if we were using 5 tonne a night in the last spell & I saw 1 road in Bray gritted ( The N11) how far will their 15 last ... Not a lot! So they only grit major roads... what are the major roads ?? The ones listed on their site !! So grid lock.. if only the motorways & big roads are done - problem as always is getting to them ....
Also remember their last error in January & the queues in Tesco were out the door & then nada ...... Think they got a rap on the knuckles over that one .The retailers have already lost a week of christmas with the last weather outbreak.... Who owns ME & RTE ?? The lovely people up in the Dail... & do they really want a disasterous christmas week at the tills....... Think ME will be making a bigger statement tomorrow. What bugs me about them is the Nowcast rather than forecast. Even with my limited knowledge I think I could do that !

I didnt see the last RTE one myself - was it a rerun of the earlier forecast maybe & its not inclusive of the last run....?

Time will tell,

alfa beta · 16-12-2010 1:27am

thetonynator wrote: »

I have noticed that a large number of people around here may be actually in love with Mr. M.T. Cranium. . . :P :P :P

I actually think I am - and I'm not really a big fan of......you know.....man love.....but hey, gotta try everything once!

123balltv · 16-12-2010 1:27am

M.T. Cranium is a weather God
I really enjoy his forecasts he deserves all the praise he gets

WallyGUFC · 16-12-2010 1:31am

Can't wait to rub it into ye Dubs now come Friday morning: "Snow here, snow there, snow flippin everywhere!":D I hope the whole country gets a good plastering but hopefully this will make up for the pathetic efforts of the snow gods around Galway the last time. My God if it rains...

heyheyhey1982 · 16-12-2010 1:34am

Can someone please explain how BBC weather has Dublin Pretty much basking in sunshine? There 5 day forecast is sunny- to partially cloudy so is it a case they dont really put an effort into Dublin/ Ireland?
very confusing!!!!

I'd rely on MT more though- its just strange of the conflict

Gregsor · 16-12-2010 1:34am

Still getting the remainder of the previous downing off here and i would say another day it will be gone,snowman finally lost its head today

,but i had an idea it would be just thawed in time for the next batch!
I love the snow it's the thaw pees me off, throw in the freezing fog and the back roads of Kildare, pure nightmare :eek:
Grit?don't need it they say,and if we need it out here on the back roads there is not enough.
What about the corners and the hills then

.
Puts a downer on it.
But all in all if it can hold off till at least mid next week and then bury us it would be a Christmas to remember

.

16-12-2010 1:35am

Iancar29 wrote: »

I can see it now... Front PAGE monday morning..

MET ÉIREANN HQ SNOWED UNDER
AFter them saying Snowchance of it being bad?

very detailed bbc news 24 forecast just now and they had the snowy low more over england with no snow over eastern Ireland bar a few showers and nothing at all in the south.
So bear in mind disappointment is possib;e.
Disregarding ukmo meterologist opinion is not a good idea.

lucy2010 · 16-12-2010 1:36am

Anyone spot the smirk on Evelyn before she nearly chocked saying widespread heavy snow for the weekend

thetonynator · 16-12-2010 1:37am

Its salt not grit thats important, we have endless grit supplies but limited salt. (this is for new posters who haven't heard before ) salt melts ire and snow down as far as -6 or -7. That is why it is primarily used instead of grit or sand. I lot of people last year were giving out that the councils wouldn't just use same instead of salt, well it just doesn't have the same effect! I think the 5000 tonnes per day figure will be different now as they are using a lower concentration, but if the amounts forecast are right, its snow ploughs that will be more important than gritters. . !

ciaranm · 16-12-2010 1:37am

123balltv wrote: »

M.T. Cranium is a weather God
I really enjoy his forecasts he deserves all the praise he gets

He's really staking his reputation on all this.

I for one have been dispensing his forecasts around my office as though they were my own. So my undeserved, stolen reputation is also on the line.

Balls. Been waiting up to watch the sky news forecast.. and it just switched to CBS News.
But on the plus side, they did show an amazing scene from Ohio, where a lighthouse sat completely frozen over. Fantastic looking.

sillybird · 16-12-2010 1:37am

heyheyhey1982 wrote: »

Can someone please explain how BBC weather has Dublin Pretty much basking in sunshine? There 5 day forecast is sunny- to partially cloudy so is it a case they dont really put an effort into Dublin/ Ireland?
very confusing!!!!

I'd rely on MT more though- its just strange of the conflict

The BBC are British so therefore would concentrate on Britain and NI.

16-12-2010 1:40am

sillybird wrote: »

The BBC are British so therefore would concentrate on Britain and NI.

yes but they have the low much further east on news 24 just now which would greatly reduce the snow in the east and south!
No doubt though even their current interpretation is subject to some change in the next 48hrs

Winterstale · 16-12-2010 1:42am

Have been an avid reader/voyer since last years big chill. Really enjoying the build up and information given by the experts. Feel like a child on Christmas eve waiting for the present I asked for. Hope it happens. This whole thing plays major havoc with the zzzzzzzzzz's, will sleep in march or maybe have to wait to April:D

alfa beta · 16-12-2010 1:45am

go to bed leahyl - it's much too late for you still to be up - you a girl an all!!

National: Severe Cold/ Snow Discussion (Thanks to all!)

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