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All Things Met Eireann Related Go in Here (MOD NOTE #1)

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  • #52
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    A Supper Dupper thread for ALL things Met Eireann related


  • #53
    kwik
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭kwik


    Should be stickied!!!!!


  • #54
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    I really hope this does not turn into a M.E bashing thread.


  • #55
    ThreeLineWhip
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    Gerry Murphy is great!


  • #56
    tomcosgrave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭tomcosgrave


    God only knows what Gerry, Evelyn, Jean and the rest of the ME gang think when they look in here, which I am sure they must from time to time...


  • #57
    Deep Easterly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    Slashermcguirk wrote: »
    This is the thing, met eireann have been wrong time and again. They have changed their forecasts consistently, I could show you quote from few days ago saying snow accumulations in the east and north easy for Tuesday night and today. They just change their mind day before. Their forecast beyond a day or two have been consistently off.

    In fairness, weather models have been so erratic but changing forecast every day doesn't exactly count as correct forecasting!!

    If I could maybe give a wee bit of a sociological view on this. I would be pretty sure that 90% of the people who watch the TV forecast do so simply because it comes on after the main news, and probably don't pay full attention to it. All they may want to know is if it is going to rain or not, that is all, and then leave it at that. They don't really care about how cold it is out in the Atlantic or over in the UK/Europe and how this may or may not have an influence on our weather. It is different for us on here as we have all have a much greater interest in the weather so we absorb and monitor every single word in the forecasts given on TV and apply to them a much greater significance! :D

    That said, if Gerry was to have mentioned a big snow fest on his forecast tonight, ears would have pricked up and expectations would have been raised by the general public; rumours and whispers about blizzards would grab hold of the nation and met eireann as a result would be put up on a pedestal only to be knocked of it again and accused of giving a wrong forecast if the said snow fest did not happen (and as others have alluded to also) I think that is the long and short of it really! :)


  • #58
    Tom Cruises Left Nut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Now this is an ME update !!

    Tonight:
    he rain will clear from western Connacht, Munster and south Leinster tonight and the winds here will veer westerly and ease. Further east and north the rain will turn to sleet and snow. Minimum temperatures zero to 3 degrees.


    Tomorrow:
    Further rain, sleet or snow over Ulster and parts of Leinster with some drifting snow and accumulations likely over high ground with the strong easterly winds just gradually easing.
    Dry eldewhere apart from isolated showers. Highest temperatures ranging from 4 (in the NE) to 10 (in the S) degrees.


    Outlook:
    riday night: Outbreaks of rain, sleet and snow over Ulster, northeast Connacht and northeast Leinster will gradually die out and clear spells will develop generally with just a few rain or hail showers in the west. A very cold night with a widespread severe air and ground frost and icy patches.
    Saturday: Apart from isolated wintry showers a dry day with sunny spells. A very cold day with top temperatures only 2 to 6 degrees and there will be a widespread severe or very severe air and ground frost Saturday night with icy patches.
    Sunday: A bitterly cold day; highest temperatures only 1 to 5 degrees in a strong to gale force easterly wind. Many areas will have a dry morning, just a few wintry showers in the east and south. Heavy rain and sleet will move in across Munster and south Leinster during the afternoon and evening turning to sleet and snow here on Sunday night with cloudy conditions further north and patchy sleet and snow.

    WARNING for next week: There is a high probability of a severely cold week. Maxima are predicted to be in low single figures with widespread severe air and ground frosts at night. Strong easterly winds up to mid-week will produce significant wind chill and make it feel bitterly cold everywhere. Some snow showers are possible especially in the east but for most areas it will be mainly dry. Freezing fog may develop over the second half of the week as the winds drop and sub-zero temperatures then may persist during daytime.


  • #59
    Dead_Rabbits
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    The Met E website looks like the snow gremlins hacked into it and started switching all that rain to snow over the weekend :D

    Also I see the ramping thread is closed :(


  • #60
    rc28
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    As expected Met Eireann this morning have had to radically alter their forecast. It was farcical yesterday to not even mention the risk/potential of something more wintry on the way (rather than blindly choose mild and wet like Gerry did - contrary to all the data available). Many businesses depend on the weather and it is a dereliction of public duty not to at least give them the heads up of potential disruptive wintry weather.

    I do not buy the attitude of certain posters that the Irish public could not be made understand that the forecast is only indicating a risk rather than an outright certainty - Evelyn earlier this week did a top job of emphasising the uncertainty and made it as plain as day that they could not give a definitive forecast.

    Thankfully, sense has prevailed and this morning they have indicated the possible chance of cold and snow in the short term. :)


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  • #61
    pistolpetes11
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    Dead_Rabbits wrote: »
    The Met E website looks like the snow gremlins hacked into it and started switching all that rain to snow over the weekend :D

    Also I see the ramping thread is closed :(


    Ye of little faith , there is a brand new one here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056857548


  • #62
    pistolpetes11
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    Just a note :

    No personal insults will be allowed in this forum


  • #63
    Redsunset
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    Just to add on the personal abuse. It will not be tolerated here. It does not matter if it is directed at a boards member or not.

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  • #64
    Dead_Rabbits
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    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Ye of little faith , there is a brand new one here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056857548

    It felt like one of my arms was cut off there for a while, on my way over now! :D


  • #65
    munsterlegend
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    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Just a note :

    No personal insults will be allowed in this forum

    I am sure just like everyone else in Met Eireann, Gerry Murphy discussed with superiors before giving a forecast. He might put his slant on it but it surely would have the approval of his superiors. To blame one person is certainly not fair and who knows he could still be right. There is nothing certain about snow in Ireland.

    We are starting to come into the reliable timeframe for the weekend so I think this warning this morning gives ample time for preparations to be made and outline the possible wintry risk.


  • #66
    Spindle
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    Lets face it Ireland has a lot of moaners. If they said there will be a 30% chance of snow 70% chance of rain at the weekend, people would complain saying sure they don't have a clue what is going to happen. Followed by pfff I don't listen to them anyway then not listen to the weather until next Monday, where in if it did snow, say they never told us about this.

    If you depend on the weather for your work, then check in at least once either to the 6:55 or 9:30 weather and check the website. You can't plan an event in a weeks time based on current weather guidance, and expect to get the exact weather that was forecast a week ago all the while never checking any new forecast to see that the outlook has changed dramatically and on the day complain they never told me.

    Weather is changeable even over the course of a day, but in general 24 hours out they will be fairly accurate, but a system moving a few miles in a different direction can be the difference in what weather we get or not get.

    Also the last time I checked it was winter, in winter we get cold, snow, milder periods, heavy rain, windstorms. So you should prepare for any of these and expect in any given week that we might experience any of those conditions during winter.

    Final point, don't blame the messenger, as that's all they are, as far as I am aware they don't control the weather in any way.


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  • #67
    Storm 10
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    Slept out this morning, thanks to Evelyn for the alarm call doing the weather forecast on RTE1 this morning her lovely soft voice mentioned snow, I was out of the bed like a shot.


  • #68
    Villain
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    I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

    Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange


  • #69
    Dead_Rabbits
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    Villain wrote: »
    I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

    Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Stange

    I truly believe he was at the end of his shift and just thought it was to late in the evening to be bothered! Harsh maybe but it was a call that could be made based on reliable information that there is a "Risk" over the weekend for significant wintry conditions.

    Forewarned is forearmed !


  • #70
    Pangea
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    Just seen the latest forecast with Audrey mc grath, she said snowfall for ulster tomorrow.
    I do find their system quite lacking in detail compared to the bbc precipitation charts which shows a differentiation between snow and rain, met eireann just have a drawn cloud with precipitation falling out of it which is rather vague and almost childlike.
    She then went on to mention wet snow, so its rather confusing as to what to expect tomorrow.
    Also I think they should have a warning system for regions similar to the met office uks, more visual stimulus is needed on screen,but of course at times Audrey is all the visual stimulus I need .


  • #71
    hawkwing
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    Villain wrote: »
    I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

    Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange
    I agree totally,surely the risk of sleet at least had to be mentioned for the mountains or something,i said this last night and was put down because of it,ffs there was snow already at Sally Gap and the fact that there was very cold weather all around us and we are 1-2c either side of snow for the next 5 days at least didn't warrant a mention,whilst at the same time last night their own website had sleet and snow mentioned 5-6 times and now has this warning (nobody expected him to forecast blizzards but what the forecast gave out was a bit unbelievable:confused:) :
    Issued at 17 January 2013 - 11:06
    Weather Advisory

    Very heavy rain will spread into parts of Munster and Connacht on Thursday and will spread eastwards during the afternoon and evening. There will be some heavy falls with a risk of localised flooding in parts of Munster and Leinster.

    The rain will be accompanied by strong to near gale force and gusty southeasterly winds.

    There is a risk that the rain will turn to sleet and snow later on Thursday night and towards dawn. Parts of north Leinster and Ulster will be most at risk, with further snowfall during Friday with accumulations mostly on higher ground.

    Staying very cold on Saturday for much of the country with a further threat of wintry showers. Very cold, frosty and icy at times

    Valid from: 11:00 17th Jan 2013


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  • #72
    dopolahpec
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    Villain wrote: »
    I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

    Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange

    A lot changed, models updated during the night firming up on detail nearer the event. The public have plenty notice.


  • #73
    DOCARCH
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    dopolahpec wrote: »
    A lot changed, models updated during the night firming up on detail nearer the event. The public have plenty notice.

    Yes.....but.....ECM came out about 3 hours before his 9.30pm broadcast/forecast.

    Time will tell, but he could still be proved right!


  • #74
    Villain
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    Very Little changed, they updated their forecast before 6am online, I didn't expect Gerry to go as far as Evelyn did but he should have mentioned risk imo.


  • #75
    Blizzard 2010
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Blizzard 2010


    Villain wrote: »
    I'm always jumping to the defence of Met Eireann here as I believe in general they do an excellent job however I have to say Gerry's forecast last night was very poor.

    Nothing major has changed in 12 hours in terms of the information available yet we have gone from a forecast at 21:30 last night where he didn't even give a risk of sleet or snow to a total different forecast by Evelyn at 07:55 this morning and they have now issued a weather warning! Very Strange
    I still thinks he mistakenly used the Oz instead of the 12z. .


  • #76
    Dead_Rabbits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭Dead_Rabbits


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Yes.....but.....ECM came out about 3 hours before his 9.30pm broadcast/forecast.

    Time will tell, but he could still be proved right!

    Or he could be proven even more wrong! :D

    But wrong or not, a broadcast went out last night when the overwhelming evidence had pointed to a wintry set up over the weekend!


  • #77
    munsterlegend
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Yes.....but.....ECM came out about 3 hours before his 9.30pm broadcast/forecast.

    Time will tell, but he could still be proved right!

    without being here to defend himself...perhaps his superiors stated look we will see what the models overnight show and if there is a need to warn the public which they have now done. I am sure Gerry was aware of the updated data but the final decision was not his. I doubt such a professional organisation would have one man making a call on a forecast!


  • #78
    Rougies
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    munsterlegend wrote: »
    without being here to defend himself...perhaps his superiors stated look we will see what the models overnight show and if there is a need to warn the public which they have now done. I am sure Gerry was aware of the updated data but the final decision was not his. I doubt such a professional organisation would have one man making a call on a forecast!

    This could well be the case. Maybe their best forecaster hasn't got a face for TV and is kept locked in a dungeon and fed fish heads.


  • #79
    Dead_Rabbits
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    Will the first person I want to see and hear say snow is Jean, that's the "dream" I have been having anyways!


  • #80
    munsterlegend
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    Rougies wrote: »
    This could well be the case. Maybe their best forecaster hasn't got a face for TV and is kept locked in a dungeon and fed fish heads.

    i presume like the UK met office there is a chief who doesn't go on tv giving forecasts?


  • #81
    Rougies
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    munsterlegend wrote: »
    i presume like the UK met office there is a chief who doesn't go on tv giving forecasts?

    Could be the same in met eireann, I'm not sure to be honest.


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  • #82
    Spindle
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    munsterlegend wrote: »
    i presume like the UK met office there is a chief who doesn't go on tv giving forecasts?

    Gerald Fleming is the head of forecasting at the moment. The amount of input he has in the TV forecast I don't know, but he would be the main spokesperson in the event of a big weather situation. So there is no one forecaster making the calls, just not sure who decides the output of the TV forecast.

    There is a huge team working up there some other old names are still there but just not on TV like the Eagle :)

    People seem to forget that they also produce all the aviation and marine forecasts. Irish air space and marine traffic is very busy with the trans-Atlantic routes so this is a vital aspect of what they do.

    The people you see on TV just happen to be from Met Eireann sometimes, but on RTE2 and at Lunchtime,they are just presenters that read from scripts.


  • #83
    Speak Now
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    Spindle wrote: »
    People seem to forget that they also produce all the aviation and marine forecasts. Irish air space and marine traffic is very busy with the trans-Atlantic routes so this is a vital aspect of what they do.

    Don't you know it's all about will it snow in my back yard season :rolleyes:
    Watch this place become an extension of After Hours over the weekend :(
    Dublin great, Cork useless, my snow is better than your type posts. Basically a Foghorn-Leghorn-icon.pngmeasuring competition :mad:

    Met Eireann where's my snow etc etc


  • #84
    Pangea
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    Met eireann forecast is still vague for tomorrow


  • #85
    Deep Easterly
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    Pangea wrote: »
    Met eireann forecast is still vague for tomorrow

    Gerry Murphy mentioned sleet and wet snow for later tonight/tomorrow over northern 3rd of country. Snow mostly over high ground, which would mean any snow lower down would probably be of that big wet variety and hardly something to get worked up about.


  • #86
    Pangea
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    Deep Easterly wrote: »
    Gerry Murphy mentioned sleet and wet snow for later tonight/tomorrow over northern 3rd of country. Snow mostly over high ground, which would mean any snow lower down would probably be of that big wet variety and hardly something to get worked up about.

    Would that be your opinion of whats going to happen too?


  • #87
    Deep Easterly
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    Pangea wrote: »
    Would that be your opinion of whats going to happen too?

    Trust me, you don't really want to hear my opinion :P


  • #88
    Pangea
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    Deep Easterly wrote: »
    Trust me, you don't really want to hear my opinion :P

    NUsfZ.gif


  • #89
    Harry Deerpark
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    Gerry said snow! Holy ****!


  • #90
    leahyl
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    Well I'll be god damned Gerry said snow!!


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  • #91
    Pangea
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    Up to 24cms in hills in the NI forecast, 'snow on higher ground' Gerry says


  • #92
    whitebriar
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    lol...according to Gerry,theres a risk,that this rain will turn to shleet on the wicklow mountains...

    Fcecks sake,what is he on?


  • #93
    LoadofCROC
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    leahyl wrote: »
    Well I'll be god damned Gerry said snow!!

    :eek:

    Any snow for south east on Gerrys forecast?


  • #94
    whitebriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    Mountains only according to Gerry...
    Shleet on the wicklow mtns...

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #95
    leahyl
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    LoadofCROC wrote: »

    :eek:

    Any snow for south east on Gerrys forecast?

    Not for tonight or tomorrow anyway - looks to be Ulster and North Leinster most at risk


  • #96
    200motels
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    LoadofCROC wrote: »
    :eek:

    Any snow for south east on Gerrys forecast?
    We'll be very lucky to see snow, 10C here at the moment.


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  • #97
    lucernarian
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    whitebriar wrote: »
    lol...according to Gerry,theres a risk,that this rain will turn to shleet on the wicklow mountains...
    In fairness he repeatedly emphasised that it will turn to snow, initially there and inland/higher ground further north. No mention of how bad it will be on higher ground though... Also, I think the Carrickmacross man could and should have emphasised the likelihood of snow lying in his home town tomorrow!

    I don't think most people realise just how horribly cold it will feel in driving, blustery sleet in many parts of the country!! Met Eireann need to highlight the bitter windchill and by extension how important it will be to stay dry and warm tomorrow.


  • #98
    Kippure
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    All higher ground is going to get pasted out of it. Happy days.


  • #99
    whitebriar
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    Whats he going to say when theres snow on the m50 by this time tomorrow? claim its a mountain? scratch that,I doubt he cares.
    Any decent forecaster with an interest in weather would have done a better forecast that that one!


  • #100
    Duggys Housemate
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    Latest forecast from RTE 4-10 c. Stick a fork.....


  • #101
    Bishop_Donal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Bishop_Donal


    Our Gerry, who art in ‘Nevin,
    Hallowed be thy Game; 

    Thy forecast come, 
Our snow be done 

    On Cork as it is in Dublin. 

    Don’t give us today, our daily dread; 

    And forgive our ramp excesses 

    As we forgive those who unramp against us; 

    And lead us not into downgrades, 

    But deliver us a Blizzard.


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