Insufferable beer snobs.

ThewhiteJesus · 22-07-2020 1:52pm

Hurrache wrote: »

And so you should. People with taste don't want to mingle with commoners, especially these days, god knows what they'd catch off you and your polyester leisurewear.

haha so you think drinking craft beer promotes you to the upper class !!
Says it all really.

Allinall · 22-07-2020 1:53pm

I drink bottles of Bud.

Only drink in bars, though, and usually pay close to €6 per bottle, so I would class myself as a beer snob.

Ush1 · 22-07-2020 1:59pm

jimgoose wrote: »

Not on Wednesdays, no. Why?

He'd be known to compare mundane things to a brand and model of car, right down to the size engine.

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 2:01pm

Ush1 wrote: »

He'd be known to compare mundane things to a brand and model of car, right down to the size engine.

Oh.

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 2:28pm

jimgoose wrote: »

Arthur Guinness was a stalwart Irish Unionist, but I don't think he funded actual terrorists.

you're correct - my bad, it was Lord Iveagh

ShatterAlan · 22-07-2020 2:31pm

I've been to the Salt House in Galway and as a lager/pilsner drinker they had absolutely nothing that appealed to me. They have this beer called Fischers which is a kind of German lager and it's crappy compared to Krombacher, Spaten, Veltins.

22-07-2020 2:53pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They have a lovely red ale called Arcadia that I used to buy bottles of. Now they are change 3.80 for a 440ml can of it.

Arcadia is the gluten free lager. Is the red you’re thinking of called Wildfire? It’s lovely.

McGinniesta · 22-07-2020 2:59pm

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

Damn reading that makes me wanna go out and absolutely sloshed on a rake of pints.

I'm dying to get f*cked on a tray of pints.

There'll a rope of sick afterwards.

Banana Republic. · 22-07-2020 3:02pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I was down West over the weekend for a few days holiday, and visited a pub on the Friday night as it has a good reputation for seafood.

No ordering at the bar these days, so some dork with a ginger beard and a load of tattoos came down to take our order. I asked for a dozen oysters to start, and a pint of Guinness. 'We have an excellent selections of stouts and porters in the bottle, as well as our own house stout if you'd prefer that instead', he said upon hearing my order.

'No you're grand, dude', I answered back.

'I can bring down a sample if you like. It's much more flavoursome than Guinness'.

'Grand so', I said, 'but make sure the Guinness is a decent pint as I'm rasping here with the thirst'.

Down comes my pint of Guinness, and I horse it into me like it's my last. Eventually a sample of their own house stout arrives down with my oysters. It tastes like bovril, cabbage water, and what I'd imagine a fungal toe infection tastes like. Disgusting.

Why do beer snobs always want to push their overpriced muck on punters? Like there's a few craft beers I like, especially that Galway Hooker stuff, but I'll try them in my own good time. This is the second time something like this has happened to me in the past year, and I'm wondering why beer snobs just can't get over the idea that the majority of people want the beer they want?

The Guinness was lovely btw, and I polished off 8 of them within the time we were allowed stay in the pub.

I’m sure he’d get a tip for selling the crafty stuff, what’s up with his ginger beard and tattoos? Haha Allot of the stuff is hard to swallow for sure but apparently doesn’t give too many hangovers. I think that at least give samples unlike the normal beers whetted have to buy a pint to see what it’s like, beer snobbery is within us all. It didn’t seem that pushy but my issue would me the craft stuff is sometimes dearer n that wouldn’t persuade me to dish out the dosh. Nothing worse then going into a bar to ask for say Heineken and they say oh no but I’ve something like it and any lager afterwards the same answer no but it’s like this or that.

Banana Republic. · 22-07-2020 3:04pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

I'm dying to get f*cked on a tray of pints.

There'll a rope of sick afterwards.

Love the saying for few pints, Tray, rake, shed load etc

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-07-2020 3:10pm

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Eight pints?

Some sort of featherweight?

probably a bit rusty after the lockdown

Banana Republic. · 22-07-2020 3:20pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

probably a bit rusty after the lockdown

8-in pints like a legend

stoneill · 22-07-2020 3:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Very few smithwicks drinkers about....it seems

I often go for a smiddicks every now and then.

Doctor Jimbob · 22-07-2020 3:36pm

I'd be found of craft beers in general but there are very few craft stouts I enjoy. I'd take Guinness over any of them 9 times out of 10.

Lewis_Benson · 22-07-2020 3:39pm

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I'd be found of craft beers in general but there are very few craft stouts I enjoy. I'd take Guinness over any of them 9 times out of 10.

Oharas Léann Foillin is a lovely sup.

whippet · 22-07-2020 3:50pm

I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore

saabsaab · 22-07-2020 4:06pm

whippet wrote: »

I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore

He sounds a bit of a character alright. You should play up to it sometime get him going just for the craic. Like tell him the glass he's using is wrong or the wrong year!

L1011 · 22-07-2020 4:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Very few smithwicks drinkers about....it seems

If I'm in a pub when already hungover (which is at my age is basically only ever day two of a stag or wedding; and most of my mates are married by now); or all they have is a few taps I'll go for Smithwicks. It is undeniably a little bland, but there's times when bland is good.

iamstop · 22-07-2020 4:15pm

KungPao wrote: »

As a snob I can say that a pint of coo-ers is your only man. Maybe Carlsburg or maybe even Kronenberg 1884 if I’m feeling adventurous.

Like a "America's got talent" fan calling themselves a music snob! LMFAO!

andekwarhola · 22-07-2020 4:50pm

Always makes me chuckle that the people I know that get most aggrieved about craft beer narration are always highly likely to be the Guinness scientists that bore the fcuking hole off everybody interminably about the exact optimum science and location of The Perfect Pint Of Plain.

Banana Republic. · 22-07-2020 4:58pm

whippet wrote: »

I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore

Jesus what a head wrecker he’d drive you to drink (well not the craft stuff anyway lol)

saabsaab · 22-07-2020 6:52pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Always makes me chuckle that the people I know that get most aggrieved about craft beer narration are always highly likely to be the Guinness scientists that bore the fcuking hole off everybody interminably about the exact optimum science and location of The Perfect Pint Of Plain.

You hear so many talk about the best pub for a pint in a town. Is there something in it?

One spot mentioned had no refrigeration just the keg under the counter!

ilovemuffin · 22-07-2020 7:13pm

One thing about the Guinness is that it takes years to develop a taste for it, as with other pungent beverages (like coffee). Then someone has the cheek to offer you another variant of Guinness which is probably 3x more as pungent and you would need an entire decade to acquire a taste for it. Shocking

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 7:23pm

Guinness isn't a Holy Grail. It's just a Guinness. The craft brewers where I am, and there's dozens of them, want to add all kinds of crazy shiite to their beers for the millennials...pine tree needles, sage, pumpkin, etc.

I can count on Guinness to be decent and not try to make a fool out of me. It's like an old friend I can count on.

jimgoose · 22-07-2020 7:34pm

saabsaab wrote: »

You hear so many talk about the best pub for a pint in a town. Is there something in it?

One spot mentioned had no refrigeration just the keg under the counter!

Ah, Gai-Jin - you ask me to expose the soul of old Japan. I could sooner plunge the the tanto into my own belly.

andekwarhola · 22-07-2020 7:45pm

saabsaab wrote: »

You hear so many talk about the best pub for a pint in a town. Is there something in it?

One spot mentioned had no refrigeration just the keg under the counter!

Usually you can predict the type of pub right off.

Guinness is as much about sociological and marketing feels as any imagined variance in the actual quality of the pint.

It's also illegal to describe the pint in question without recourse to the word, 'Creamy'.

Just so you know.

Ipso · 22-07-2020 7:52pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Usually you can predict the type of pub right off.

Guinness is as much about sociological and marketing feels as any imagined variance in the actual quality of the pint.

It's also illegal to describe the pint in question without recourse to the word, 'Creamy'.

Just so you know.

Creamy aka nitrogen and flaked barley

shaveAbullock · 22-07-2020 8:27pm

What would happen if you used the word creamy to describe Guinness original?

Neon_Lights · 22-07-2020 9:37pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Ah this nugget.

Guinness is brewed and crafted in Dublin and shipped worldwide from there.

So you're going to come back with Diageo, wel that's just modern day business. Plenty of companies have foreign ownership. Penneys being another one.

I don't get why a successful product gets so much criticism just because you most likely don't like the taste.

Guinness is also brewed locally in Nigeria and Australia

adocholiday · 22-07-2020 11:26pm

I'm a massive craft beer fan as are many of my friends but none of us are beer snobs. We'd all like various craft beers of all sorts, as well as pints of Guinness. I love a craft beer particularly at home. I'd much rather sip on 3 or 4 6% DIPAs or Belgian ales than lash in 8 pints of Heineken but I'd also happily drink the Heineken if nothing else was available.

I also love a pint of Guinness. My local pub does a smashing pint of it and the day they reopen I'll be down there at opening time!

mfceiling · 23-07-2020 10:07am

Sky King wrote: »

Well to be fair, we have beer tossers to thank for the increased variety available these days, so lets not write them off altogether.

It's thanks to eejits in startupps making manky pale ale in their bathtubs that people started drinking the stuff.

Now proper brewers like Diageo who can actually control their brewing process have taken over with the like of Smithwicks Pale Ale - it's my pale ale of choice these days - far superior to almost everything else on offer, with the exception of McGargles which have a few decent ones. Excellent, balanced taste and total consistency.

The 'local stuff' is usually made on a shoestring by unqualified morons on 10th-hand equipment and tastes like detergent. There are a few exceptions to this, but not many.

Where to start with this? You're saying the likes of Kinnegar, Ballykilcavan, Trouble Brewing, Dot Brewing, Blacks of Kinsale etc are unqualified morons using 10th hand equipment?

You do know Diageo will make the blandest beers that appeal to the mass populace and market them as "craft"?

murpho999 · 23-07-2020 10:32am

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Guinness is also brewed locally in Nigeria and Australia

Yes but they actually use a dehydrated hopped wort that is shipped from Dublin to brew the beer.

Either way, if it's brewed abroad how does that still not make it an Irish product and brand?

The labels will all have "St James's Gate, Dublin" on them.

Banana Republic. · 23-07-2020 10:47am

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

Sephiroth_dude · 23-07-2020 10:49am

whippet wrote: »

I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore

I like my craft beer but jesus that's extreme.

Sephiroth_dude · 23-07-2020 10:49am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

False.

jimgoose · 23-07-2020 10:50am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

Some of them are probably easier on the stomach than some of the big, mass-market concoctions, but given that a hangover is basically dehydration I wouldn't think so. Some of the oul' fellas down here say similar about Beamish stout.

lawrencesummers · 23-07-2020 10:50am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

Most definatley not.
I had a week long headache after drinking one craft red ale.

lawrencesummers · 23-07-2020 10:53am

This reminds me of a time about 10 years ago in a restaurant in West Cork, a well known place in a village near Clon, long before the craft beer thing was happening.

The woman seated opposite me was on the vino, I asked the waiter, who was also the owner what beer he had and got the reply word for word that i will never forget - "we have a eclectic mix of bottled beer".

So what are they? I had to ask.

Budweiser, Carlsberg and Erdinger.

Banana Republic. · 23-07-2020 10:57am

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Most definatley not.
I had a week long headache after drinking one craft red ale.

Crikey, name and shame it? Reason for asking was my friend frank craft beer in Prague and he said not a hangover no matter how much they drank so just a gentle wonderment.

ThewhiteJesus · 23-07-2020 10:58am

whippet wrote: »

I've been avoiding going to any pub with my brother for the last couple of years - he is the most stereotypical craft beer c..t on the plant.

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

No matter what pub he ever goes in to the process is the same -- a quick glance at the taps followed by a subtle shake of the head; then he leans in over the bar -- scans the fridges - sharp intake of breath followed by - 'Is this all that you have?' .. when it is pointed out that pubs generally don't have hidden stuff they only sell when a ginger beard requests it with a secret password - he goes on a rant about how I shouldn't have to put up with drinking bland beer.

My local is a small rural pub - might only have 10 people in it on a busy night - Guinness, Smithwicks, Heineken and Bulmers on tap - small selection of bottles and a couple of lagers from the local craft brewery.

Eventually he will settle on what the local craft one is - and despite the fact that he has been in this pub numerous times and drank this beer before - he will critique it and explain in detail to anyone who will listen what is wrong with the beer including what they have done wrong in the process.

I even had to listen to him in PMacs one night telling me that their selection was limited and generic ......

I just don't go to pubs with him anymore

that's gas but i totally get you, when i'm sitting at the bar and some bearded hipster comes in asking for a stupidly named pint of crap for extra money,
i along with any other normal person at the bar sniggers.

Banana Republic. · 23-07-2020 10:59am

lawrencesummers wrote: »

This reminds me of a time about 10 years ago in a restaurant in West Cork, a well known place in a village near Clon, long before the craft beer thing was happening.

The woman seated opposite me was on the vino, I asked the waiter, who was also the owner what beer he had and got the reply word for word that i will never forget - "we have a eclectic mix of bottled beer".

So what are they? I had to ask.

Budweiser, Carlsberg and Erdinger.

Erdinger made Bud n Carl eclectic

Lewis_Benson · 23-07-2020 11:01am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Is there any truth in the rumour you don’t get a hangover from craft beer as there is a lot less crap put into them?

As a person who drinks a fair bit of craft beer I can assure you, the hangovers exist.

Effects · 23-07-2020 11:11am

whippet wrote: »

he brews his own muck which 90% of the time is undrinkable ... yet apparently my palate is just underdeveloped.

Your palate probably is unrefined. He shouldn't make you feel bad about it though.
You won't get any better if you have no interest in improving though.

jimgoose · 23-07-2020 11:15am

Effects wrote: »

...You won't get any better if you have no interest in improving though.

Y'see, it's statements like that that make me want to take a 330cl bottle of sophisticated, hoppy craft ale with it's vanilla undertones and nuances of snake-droppings and insert it in the brewer. :pac:

lawrencesummers · 23-07-2020 11:32am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Crikey, name and shame it? Reason for asking was my friend frank craft beer in Prague and he said not a hangover no matter how much they drank so just a gentle wonderment.

Quantities could be the deciding factor.

Kaybaykwah · 23-07-2020 11:33am

No problem being a beer snob, as the only tarnishable thing about that is the"B" word, barely mentioned, conversationally where wine is more appropriately effective. Snobbery isn't the problem, but rather those who don't qualify to breathe the rarefied air of subtler, more genteel objects of desire.

However, Budweiser is a very well achieved brew among the better tongues and noses around. Like anything worth its salt, one needs to let it linger on the buds to fully appreciate the mature result of an impeccably polished process.

lbj666 · 23-07-2020 11:36am

Its funny people go on about Wine,beer coffee snobs.

But serve half of these people a cup of tea not to their liking and you'll never hear the end of it. They will bang on for about how long the the bag should be in, milk first? barrys or lyons? and god forbid if the water wasnt absolutely boiling in order to totally scald it or if the pot wasnt scalded before hand. This fuss is all over the leftover ****e from teafarms india sent of to the only dopes that will drink it in ireland and the uk, while the decent quality stuff send to countries who actually like the taste of tea leaf (ie not plonk milk and sugar in it)

Same with Guinness drinkers , i love a pint myself but we can be a very fussy bunch.

Now with wine coffee and craft beer the bit that gets me is the descriptive ****e talk which is utter nonsense and in most cases is simply made redundant by the words "here have a sup" and then "do you think its nice or not"

With all liquor particularly whiskey is whether nasty harshness is gone from it an its actually something you can keep on your palate for more than a second, a lot of money years distilling/aging and ****e talk spent just for that.

Also leave the craft and how its made talk to the craftsman

lawrencesummers · 23-07-2020 11:52am

lbj666 wrote: »

Its funny people go on about Wine,beer coffee snobs.

But serve half of these people a cup of tea not to their liking and you'll never hear the end of it. They will bang on for about how long the the bag should be in, milk first? barrys or lyons? and god forbid if the water wasnt absolutely boiling in order to totally scald it or if the pot wasnt scalded before hand. This fuss is all over the leftover ****e from teafarms india sent of to the only dopes that will drink it in ireland and the uk, while the decent quality stuff send to countries who actually like the taste of tea leaf (ie not plonk milk and sugar in it)

Same with Guinness drinkers , i love a pint myself but we can be a very fussy bunch.

Now with wine coffee and craft beer the bit that gets me is the descriptive ****e talk which is utter nonsense and in most cases is simply made redundant by the words "here have a sup" and then "do you think its nice or not"

With all liquor particularly whiskey is whether nasty harshness is gone from it an its actually something you can keep on your palate for more than a second, a lot of money years distilling/aging and ****e talk spent just for that.

Also leave the craft and how its made talk to the craftsman

Barrys.
Obviously.

BrokenArrows · 23-07-2020 11:55am

How dare the bar tender off a free sample. I mean the absolute nerve he has.
Whats next, free crisps?

Butson · 23-07-2020 11:56am

Coffee snobs are way worse.

Insufferable beer snobs.

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