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Love/Hate [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭countygorey


    who is the actor that plays johns new solicitor dave====thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    darren went the airport , he prob realised he doesnt belong in the show
    nidge is excellent , its mad to see him in real life he is a posh thespian (excellent actor)
    yer wans on the game
    cant wait til the 3rd series ,its been given the go ahead apparantly
    john boy had to die cause he was needed to go back and do the wire again
    and them social workers that were talkin to luke an episode or two ago prob put up the posters (for all you haters)
    great work rte , one of the few channels these days that makes decent tv
    Love/hate ,republic of telly , hardy bucks , meet your neighbours,,,,,,,,every other channel just re-runs 2 and a half men or some sort of x factor crap


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ahhhhh I disagree on both points.. The Guards dont take it upon themselves to put up posters of missing people until they are reported missing.. Somebody would have had to have reported him missing.

    And.. I dont think Robert Sheehan is the greatest actor.. He's probably jumped ahead of a lot of other better actors cos he's pretty (and good luck to him), but he was miscast in the role as a hard man...

    Ok i take your point on the missing persons but I personally dont think the casting of Rob Sheehan was a bad choice.
    I reckon there is plenty of innocent looking doe eyed boys around Ireland being lured into gangs. We are witnessing Darren's struggle with trying to escape gangland but at the same time he is so heavily sucked into it, its almost impossible to. Gangland has cost him the love of his life, his brother and his conscience but Darren is so sucked into it, as is Tommy, that they cant escape. They are in over their heads with dangerous Psychos like John Boy, Fran and now Nidge


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think there's a DNA "continuity" issue with Rosie and her mother as well.

    Phil Lynotts mother was white and Phil had similar skin colour to Ruth Negga so no i dont think so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    who is the actor that plays johns new solicitor dave====thanks

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=75950804&postcount=1000


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    Great series and hats off to RTE, we've waited long enough for a good show. As for Robert Sheehan, hope he is'nt in the next series, he is too pretty and well groomed to play the part of a hardman. Nidge was top notch and would like to see him stay on though. Storyline was excellent and thought through, i found myself getting excited every Sunday afternoon waiting for Love/Hate (sad i know :o) which rarely happens anymore with such poor tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭trashcan


    cloptrop wrote: »
    darren went the airport , he prob realised he doesnt belong in the show
    nidge is excellent , its mad to see him in real life he is a posh thespian (excellent actor)
    yer wans on the game
    cant wait til the 3rd series ,its been given the go ahead apparantly
    john boy had to die cause he was needed to go back and do the wire again

    The Wire is finished, they made the last series about 3 years ago at this stage and there won't be anymore. Speaking of which, anyone else think the ending montage was a direct steal from the Wire. Song playing while shots show the fate of various characters.

    All in all though, the series did improve strongly from series one. The character of Nidge in particular came to the fore very well and was superbly acted. I reckon he could carry a third series. Would like to see Fran the man out of prison and a bit of a gang war between him and Nidge could be interesting. Agree about Darren, the actor just didn't suit the hard man role. I'd leave him in London, or wherever he was heading, for the third series. Would also like to see some cop involvement to give a fuller picture.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 687 ✭✭✭headmaster


    Great series, but tonights one could have been much better. It was obvious the pervert was going to be hit, but the new boss could have been installed more officially, others could have been popped off and the way cleared up for the next series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    trashcan wrote: »
    The Wire is finished, they made the last series about 3 years ago

    sorry but he was contracted to do something, i think by the wire makers was an interview with the makers on the radio the other day.
    anyhu he had to go elsewhere they had to kill him off .
    Was good for the story though , really showed nidges talents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    headmaster wrote: »
    Great series, but tonights one could have been much better. It was obvious the pervert was going to be hit, but the new boss could have been installed more officially, others could have been popped off and the way cleared up for the next series.

    I was thinking this also but i did'nt realise the 3rd series got the go ahead, knew the ending was too good to be true ! Their was no way all the bad guys would get away with it..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,015 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    who is the actor that plays johns new solicitor dave====thanks

    Ger Carey and not Don Baker, whom he does resemble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭maxpowers


    compelling viewing i must admit - long time since i enjoyed sunday nights as much ;counting the hours down today i was!

    I thought Sheehan was decent tonight but Nidge is a legend pure double faced love it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    trashcan wrote: »
    Speaking of which, anyone else think the ending montage was a direct steal from the Wire. Song playing while shots show the fate of various characters.

    I didn't bother watching this tonight as I was watching snooker but I caught five minutes of last weeks episode. In that there was bit taken right out of episode one of The Wire where the camera switches to black and white cctv and another scene seemed remarkably similar to when Stringer and Avon discuss who can be trusted. Sitting at a bar and everything.

    I have no doubt the writers are influenced by The Wire which is a good thing but they really don't need to copy little things from it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    hunkydory1 wrote: »
    Did Darren say to the airport when he got into taxi?.?


    Yes.

    But the real question is - Did he, or did he not have his tash on at the time ?


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    trashcan wrote: »
    The Wire is finished, they made the last series about 3 years ago at this stage and there won't be anymore. Speaking of which, anyone else think the ending montage was a direct steal from the Wire. Song playing while shots show the fate of various characters.

    All in all though, the series did improve strongly from series one. The character of Nidge in particular came to the fore very well and was superbly acted. I reckon he could carry a third series. Would like to see Fran the man out of prison and a bit of a gang war between him and Nidge could be interesting. Agree about Darren, the actor just didn't suit the hard man role. I'd leave him in London, or wherever he was heading, for the third series. Would also like to see some cop involvement to give a fuller picture.
    Lapin wrote: »
    Yes.

    But the real question is - Did he, or did he not have his tash on at the time ?


    :pac:

    he didnt have a chance to shave it he was (and i quote) in a real bind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Redisle


    Regarding the death of John Boy.. I would imagine Aidan Gillen was needed to film Game of Thrones, has a pretty major role there! Pretty impressive to have large roles in two HBO productions to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭DL Saint


    I think the guy that plays Luke is doing a real good job.. I know a few guys like him... decent at heart, a little bit "touched", from a bad background.. very convincingly acted..
    Yep Gavin Drea is a great actor, straight out of the quality that is UCD Dramsoc :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    Big disappointment with that episode, very little in it, I'd have been happy with the previous episode being the end of the series. Your man Darren's only a bollocks, the weepy-eyes emo murderer schtick has got tired. I hope him and Rosey are nowhere near the next series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭DULLAHAN2


    Wasnt the best episode but all lot of loose ends tied up. I think it opens the way for a 3rd series that is straight into the action, no having to remind viewers what happend.

    Third season plot............. Hopefully

    Fran will get out of prison and come for nidge seeking what he thinks nidge owes him since nidge has taken over from Johnboy so a turf war will ensue.

    There will be no debbie or darrens sister.

    Darren got shot in the first series making him a pussy in the second but will come back with a dont fook with me attitude after he finds out rosie dies and doesnt give a Fook about anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I thought last nights episode set it up nicely for a 3rd series, with Nidge in control and mayhem ensuing as his take no crap attitude rubs everyone up the wrong way.

    The tash apart, thought it was better written for Darren - the Darren/ Rosie thing was starting to wear. I'd say the whole taxi to the airport is setting it up in case they can't get Robert Sheehan back for the 3rd series.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I agree last night episode was not as good as last weeks, but still, it was daycent viewing.

    Series 3 should be good, I reckon the first to get shot dead will be yer man Aido.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    My prediction for season 3 is that Rosie will die some how bringing Darren back full of rage and happily whacking people for king Nidge!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I thought last nights episode set it up nicely for a 3rd series, with Nidge in control and mayhem ensuing as his take no crap attitude rubs everyone up the wrong way.

    The tash apart, thought it was better written for Darren - the Darren/ Rosie thing was starting to wear. I'd say the whole taxi to the airport is setting it up in case they can't get Robert Sheehan back for the 3rd series.

    Cant see Nidge surviving long - he will take one chance too many and be taken out.

    Darren will come to the fore Id say. He is basically the young Michael Corleone from The Godfather Part 1, in the begining he swears to Rosie that he'll be out of the lifestyle soon, just as Michael assured Kay - he looses her and begins a downward spiral, eventually becoming the hardest of them all, harder than Nidge even.

    The episode last night was full of references to the Sopranos also. Luke in the woods = the Russian in the woods, Nidge pondering whether to whack Darren = Tony Soprano pondering whether to push Paulie Wallnuts off the boat in one of the last few episodes; the montage to music of each charater's fate - the Sopranos did that as well. Even though the show is so slick, you would have to wonder how the writers will keep it going when they have used up all this derivative stuff.

    The tache thing - obvously it couldnt be an error - but why?? Isnt it Oliver Stone who likes to put in apparent mistakes like that deliberatly to provoke discussion among movie nerds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    The tache thing is simply because not all scenes are shot chronologically and perhaps also due to reshoots. Since Sheehan* is about 16 years old he can't be expected to regrow his tache quickly enough.



    *Well he looks about 16....:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    The tache thing is simply because not all scenes are shot chronologically and perhaps also due to reshoots. Since Sheehan* is about 16 years old he can't be expected to regrow his tache quickly enough.



    *Well he looks about 16....:pac:

    There is no way such a slick production would have missed this or that they said "ah shure its grand" in the editing process.

    It was obviously done deliberately - the question is why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    There is no way such a slick production would have missed this or that they said "ah shure its grand" in the editing process.

    It was obviously done deliberately - the question is why?

    I was wondering that last night myself. Darren with his sister: no tache, good guy. Darren with Nidge, tache, bad guy.

    Did anyone else notice that when he was looking out the window of his sisters place, the camera was focused on his reflection, and the reflection had a tache?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 moseisley


    I have not seen the episode again but there is no way they have made so many obvious tache oversights. The scene where you see his reflection clearly represents thw two sides of his conflicting pysche. The good Darren and the evil Darren. There is a noticeable change in character in that short moment when he is arguing with himself as a split personality. Gollum or Black Swan esque.

    The writers, actors and directors would not have overlooked what we are all talking about. The tache is being used to symbolise Darren's inner struggle.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Does anyone agree with me when i say that Nidge seizing the opportunity to take control of the gang is akin to John Gilligan's rise in stock when the General was shot?
    The wife who loves the lavish life that Nidge is providing her no matter what cost which is also akin to Gilligans wife and other gangland wives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Does anyone agree with me when i say that Nidge seizing the opportunity to take control of the gang is akin to John Gilligan's rise in stock when the General was shot?
    The wife who loves the lavish life that Nidge is providing her no matter what cost which is also akin to Gilligans wife and other gangland wives
    I thought that of john boy moreso, that was one complaint i had about last night, all the heat they were attracting after jb's funeral, and the head man (nidge) is still doing manual work (shooting luke). they would have surely been followed...I doubt gilligan made many trips to wicklow with guns and shovels when the heat was on him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    Does anyone agree with me when i say that Nidge seizing the opportunity to take control of the gang is akin to John Gilligan's rise in stock when the General was shot?
    The wife who loves the lavish life that Nidge is providing her no matter what cost which is also akin to Gilligans wife and other gangland wives
    I thought that of john boy moreso, that was one complaint i had about last night, all the heat they were attracting after jb's funeral, and the head man (nidge) is still doing manual work (shooting luke). they would have surely been followed...I doubt gilligan made many trips to wicklow with guns and shovels when the heat was on him.

    Just watching the part with the disappearing tache. The tache seems to be getting more prominent throughout. The scene is the Darren of old coming out and his sister pushing it out slowly. She knows what he can do and wants him to sort it out for her. Luke's execution was done in some style. When Nidge was going to shoot Darren as well was really intense. Like when John Boy was contemplating bottling his solicitor. Great scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Swampy


    Anyone know where I can watch season 2? Managed to download season 1 but never recorded season 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    Swampy wrote: »
    Anyone know where I can watch season 2? Managed to download season 1 but never recorded season 2.
    careful now...^^

    In relation to Darren, I dont think he's actually that bad...his character just seems a little tormented, and not really supposed to be the typical hardman like the rest of them.

    Seems that he's just been dragged deeper and deeper, but all he wants to do is be out of the scene but cant seem to catch a break...
    even when Luke was gettin popped,
    he was very uncomfortable as it was happening...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just watching the part with the disappearing tache. The tache seems to be getting more prominent throughout. The scene is the Darren of old coming out and his sister pushing it out slowly. She knows what he can do and wants him to sort it out for her. Luke's execution was done in some style. When Nidge was going to shoot Darren as well was really intense. Like when John Boy was contemplating bottling his solicitor. Great scene.

    Why was Nidge contemplating doing away with Darren?
    What has Darren got over Nidge that no-else has?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    The problem with the character Darren is that Robert Sheehan isnt a good enough actor to nail it. Everything he does just seems 'off'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭CR 7


    salonfire wrote: »
    Why was Nidge contemplating doing away with Darren?
    What has Darren got over Nidge that no-else has?

    He's the only one left that knows who got John Boy killed. But since it was him that actually did it, he'll stay quiet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    So who told Roise that Darren killed Stumpy? Her mam maybe but would she have known :confused: Roise seem to imply she knew everytime she was nagging Darren asking for the truth

    I'd say if Darren has said anything Nidge didnt like when he was digging the grave Nidge would have killed him too, Darren did right by keeping quiet :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Good finale and probably the best RTE drama in years.

    I really liked the murder scene but last week's felt more dramatic. The Darren character is far from threatening and I was itching for his GF to get off the screen. They'll need new blood for the next season if they're going to keep things moving forward; I am not sure Nidge, as great as he is, is enough for the show.

    Will there be a next season? More than likely.

    SECOND SERIES OF LOVE/HATE GENERATES CRITICAL ACCLAIM

    AND PROVES TO BE A RATINGS WINNER.



    The final episode of hit series LOVE/HATE attracted an average audience of *616,000 viewers last night and reach figure of **955,000.



    The series average for the second series was 530,000 viewers with a 31% share, a rise of 76,000 viewers and 3.5% share from the first four-part series which aired in October of last year. The most watched episode was episode five which featured the shock killing of gangland boss John Boy played by Aidan Gillen. That episode was watched by an average audience of 659,000 with a 41% audience share. The series also attracted an average 160,000 viewers to date in its repeat airing on Saturday nights and also performed well on the RTÉ Player having been streamed 257,000 times to date.



    The series has not only proved to be a ratings hit but has also attracted strong critical acclaim and overwhelmingly positive feedback online on both facebook and twitter. The box-set of series one has already proved to so popular that it has had to be reprinted and demand for series two is expected to be strong in the Christmas market. The second series is available for sale in retail outlets across the country from today.



    In addition to DVD sales, RTÉ hopes that the series will prove to be of interest to a range of international broadcasters who may be interested in purchasing LOVE/HATE as a ten part series. Series one has already aired on Scottish TV (STV) and is currently being screened by Foxtel in Australia.



    In an exceptionally competitive autumn schedule the producers of Love/Hate have delivered a spectacular series to RTÉ ONE viewers. RTÉ Television Drama’s digital strategy in partnership with the producers has ensured increased opportunities to see the series for viewers across all of RTÉ’s platforms and beyond.

    RTÉ Drama is committed to bringing viewers the work of new and established writers, directors, producers and actors and Love/Hate demonstrates the depth of talent available in Ireland working at a very high level.

    The response to the series in Ireland, and now internationally, demands respect and while it’s too early to announce I’m particularly excited to see the prospect of a third series taking shape.

    Jane Gogan, Commissioning Editor, RTÉ Drama

    Will Darren's tasche return? Let's hope not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    So who told Roise that Darren killed Stumpy? Her mam maybe but would she have known :confused: Roise seem to imply she knew everytime she was nagging Darren asking for the truth

    I thought she'd asked him when she got back "so is it true"? Like there had been rumours going around that it was him......she was always saying to him that he'd changed now so she always knew but tried to pretend that it wasn't true but then she just admitted it to herself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    What exactly was Rosie's problem? She got romantically involved with, not one, but two gangsters and she was fully aware that they were gangsters and what was involved in that lifestyle.
    And then she got upset 'cos Darren was........eh.........a gangster? :confused:

    With a bit of luck she won't be around for series 3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    in series 3 darrens tache goes on the gear
    then aido pimps it out
    rosie is caught in a real dilemna
    is she in love with darren or the tache
    darren started off living in spain in the first episode he came home from there to see his brother get out of jail maybe hes just gone back
    as far as i remember hes on the run for gun possesion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Thought this episode wasnt as good without JB (even though I didnt take to him last season his character came on in leaps and bounds this year) but still great.
    The soundtrack was brilliant. The Dylan/Hendrix music was perfect for the scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭colly_06


    People saying that Darrens tache disappearing is a metaphor for his good and bad side is quite funny, it's clearly bad continuity :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭RJunior


    Did anyone else cop the fact that Nidge set Luke up? Apart from Darren, Luke was the only person linking Nidge to John Boy's death and Nidge was intent on severing all ties between himself and the murder. It was Nidge that broke in and walked around Mary's bedroom so that Darren would be prompted to do something drastic about Luke. That's why they made a big play during the burial scene of Nidge throwing Luke's shoe in on top of his corpse and why Nidge asks Trish at the end has she seen his new runners. It's also the reason why Nidge had no problem executing Luke personally. He probably made out to Darren that he was doing it as a favour to him in which case Darren now owes him one, something which'll crop up in the third series no doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    RJunior wrote: »
    Did anyone else cop the fact that Nidge set Luke up? Apart from Darren, Luke was the only person linking Nidge to John Boy's death and Nidge was intent on severing all ties between himself and the murder. It was Nidge that broke in and walked around Mary's bedroom so that Darren would be prompted to do something drastic about Luke. That's why they made a big play during the burial scene of Nidge throwing Luke's shoe in on top of his corpse and why Nidge asks Trish at the end has she seen his new runners. It's also the reason why Nidge had no problem executing Luke personally. He probably made out to Darren that he was doing it as a favour to him in which case Darren now owes him one, something which'll crop up in the third series no doubt.

    :eek:

    God I love this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    But didn't they explicitly show Luke in Mary's bedroom so how could it be Nidge?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Still no boobs out on this show?.....meh!, sure even Strikeback had TWO Irish actresses and they both got in the nip, and RTE can't find a feckin' wan for an RTE show??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    But didn't they explicitly show Luke in Mary's bedroom so how could it be Nidge?

    Yes, it's definitely Luke. 35 minutes in.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    Still no boobs out on this show?.....meh!, sure even Strikeback had TWO Irish actresses and they both got in the nip, and RTE can't find a feckin' wan for an RTE show??
    Ruth Negga had her boobs out when making out with Darren in a sex scene that dragged on way too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    RJunior wrote: »
    Did anyone else cop the fact that Nidge set Luke up? Apart from Darren, Luke was the only person linking Nidge to John Boy's death and Nidge was intent on severing all ties between himself and the murder. It was Nidge that broke in and walked around Mary's bedroom so that Darren would be prompted to do something drastic about Luke. That's why they made a big play during the burial scene of Nidge throwing Luke's shoe in on top of his corpse and why Nidge asks Trish at the end has she seen his new runners. It's also the reason why Nidge had no problem executing Luke personally. He probably made out to Darren that he was doing it as a favour to him in which case Darren now owes him one, something which'll crop up in the third series no doubt.

    But did Darren not only alert Nidge to Luke being a weirdo after the bedroom scene? Then Nidge just took it as a reason to get rid of him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    anyone know any websites where i can watch this from the start, RTE only have the last episode


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