Storm Lorenzo Chat Thread.

optogirl · 04-10-2019 9:01pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I often get that feeling when I am arriving home late from the pub.

Alright Andy Cap! Is she waiting with the rolling pin?

Cantona's Collars · 04-10-2019 9:25pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I thought it showed good production thinking that when they went back to her for a second report she had dispensed with the headgear so that her hair got nice and wet.

Don't forget when she was bracing herself against the wind while a fella strolled past in the background with his hands in his pockets and not a bother on him.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 04-10-2019 9:47pm

Widdershins wrote: »

Someone mentioned the eerie and ominous feeling before Ophelia landed. What actually causes that atmosphere before a major storm?

A vivid imagination.

Others were going on about the calm before the storm - it happened to be calm in places with no impending gales too.

NIMAN · 04-10-2019 9:52pm

the calm before the calm.

Singer · 04-10-2019 9:54pm

Graysen Witty Mumps wrote: »

A vivid imagination.

Others were going on about the calm before the storm - it happened to be calm in places with no impending gales too.

Don’t forget about the animals behaving unusually too!

Lewis_Benson · 04-10-2019 9:56pm

It was barely a breeze,
I've had worse after a chicken satay.

JanuarySnowstor · 05-10-2019 12:06am

I have to be critical of Met Eireann.
Some on here are saying the storm did not deliver what the models were showing. That's actually an infactual statement. It was clear for days that the ex hurricane was either going to miss us or deliver very little. I can't think of any model that was. Also everyone on here from the get off queried why Cork got an orange alert. I know they backtracked but too late by then
I mean Met Eireann had the benefit of daily conversations with nhc. Surely they could see the models were backing away from.a bad storm.
They seemed to totally ignore gfs and icon even though they were most accurate in the end.
Storm names, county by county warnings ffs just bring back the old phrase windy in the North and West!

hawkwing · 05-10-2019 12:33am

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I have to be critical of Met Eireann.
Some on here are saying the storm did not deliver what the models were showing. That's actually an infactual statement. It was clear for days that the ex hurricane was either going to miss us or deliver very little. I can't think of any model that was. Also everyone on here from the get off queried why Cork got an orange alert. I know they backtracked but too late by then
I mean Met Eireann had the benefit of daily conversations with nhc. Surely they could see the models were backing away from.a bad storm.
They seemed to totally ignore gfs and icon even though they were most accurate in the end.
Storm names, county by county warnings ffs just bring back the old phrase windy in the North and West!

Exactly,"there WAS a massive hurricane which is heading our way but will be more or less blown out when it reaches here--it will be very windy/possibly stormy in the North West--keep tuned for further updates" instead of a week of b0ll0x talk

NIMAN · 05-10-2019 12:36am

I listened to the weather report on the Newstalk news bulletin this morning.

It went something along the line of "it'll be wet and windy generally today", while I was driving in glorious sunshine with not a breeze on the road from Omagh to Monaghan.

One size doesn't fit all. Obviously the weather was aimed at Dublin.

05-10-2019 7:41am

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I have to be critical of Met Eireann.
Some on here are saying the storm did not deliver what the models were showing. That's actually an infactual statement. It was clear for days that the ex hurricane was either going to miss us or deliver very little. I can't think of any model that was. Also everyone on here from the get off queried why Cork got an orange alert. I know they backtracked but too late by then
I mean Met Eireann had the benefit of daily conversations with nhc. Surely they could see the models were backing away from.a bad storm.
They seemed to totally ignore gfs and icon even though they were most accurate in the end.
Storm names, county by county warnings ffs just bring back the old phrase windy in the North and West!

I thought ME were fairly spot on with the forecasts. Obviously they have to play it a bit on the safety first side, they’d be criticized badly if they didn’t.

But most of the country had a yellow warning and that was just about justified. Some windier than normal weather but nothing major.

And then orange for coastal areas were apparently it was a good bit worse.

What’s baffling is why the media went all out predicting a doomsday storm when that was never forecast.

The national broadcaster at least should have a duty to give accurate news reports.

is_that_so · 05-10-2019 8:59am

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought ME were fairly spot on with the forecasts. Obviously they have to play it a bit on the safety first side, they’d be criticized badly if they didn’t.

But most of the country had a yellow warning and that was just about justified. Some windier than normal weather but nothing major.

And then orange for coastal areas were apparently it was a good bit worse.

What’s baffling is why the media went all out predicting a doomsday storm when that was never forecast.

The national broadcaster at least should have a duty to give accurate news reports.

I think they need to look at the yellow warning. It really isn't one and tacking on the word warning gives it an urgency it just doesn't merit.
(Very) Windy, wet, with the possibility of localised flooding works a lot better IMO.
I thought the NI weather warning linked to earlier was a better effort of defining affected areas. As we are only in October there'll be a fair few more warnings over the winter and they need to make better calls on how they are issued or they will be increasingly more likely to be ignored.

Kamili · 05-10-2019 9:16am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The national broadcaster at least should have a duty to give accurate news reports.

I can't understand why they went all out on this, when they're screaming about being broke and not getting enough licence fees etc. It was actually embarrassing.

ZX7R · 05-10-2019 9:18am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I thought ME were fairly spot on with the forecasts. Obviously they have to play it a bit on the safety first side, they’d be criticized badly if they didn’t.

But most of the country had a yellow warning and that was just about justified. Some windier than normal weather but nothing major.

And then orange for coastal areas were apparently it was a good bit worse.

What’s baffling is why the media went all out predicting a doomsday storm when that was never forecast.

The national broadcaster at least should have a duty to give accurate news reports.

Irish media should be ashamed of themselves,due to rte dropping in numbers viewing they are trying to attract younger audience so there basing there news feed on American trash news sites.
Plus a number of members not ALL on here who have Facebook pages also feed the ignorance of the uneducated.
Posting there own weather warnings since last Monday and those warnings based on extreme charts at the time even using similar Warnings to met earann.
This just caused confusion people believing someone down the road trowing warnings around because they think they know better than met earann.
The masses eat it up.
Nobody is been held responsible for the driviel they produce , wether it main stream media or online.
And it's only going to get worse, wait for a decent winter charts to come and you won't have to worry about mail saying months of snow.
It will be on the news and Facebook and people will believe it sadly.

Gaoth Laidir · 05-10-2019 11:03am

I think the media went overboard for two reasons;

1. The media hype from the recent climate protests
2. The fact that Lorenzo briefly reached Cat 5. The fact that it's the most easterly Cat 5 on record was twisted and worded into a message that implied that we were possibly in for a CAT 5. Several news bulletins on the radio said "Lorenzo is the first Cat 5 this far north and east". "This far north and east" can easily be understood to mean Ireland's latitude, so it was sloppy journalism at best that further fuelled the frenzy. Lorenzo dropped below Cat 5 while still 4200 km from Ireland (at 22.7N 44.7W, further south than Miami's latitude), but I didn't hear that being mentioned anywhere.

Drifter50 · 05-10-2019 11:27am

This whole non event was a disgrace. The gubberment and their strategy meetings with a whole show of people there including.....The Revenue Commissioners, what have they got to do with a storm possibility
RTE our national broadcaster embarrassed themselves and let the population down.George Lee needs to be done away with.
Personally I lost 2 days of work that I could have done on Thursday and Friday but I stupidly listened to all this nonsense and now I`m 2 days back with a project

The boy who cried wolf, thats what it is,no-one will ever pay heed to these warnings ever again

05-10-2019 11:28am

Just a little ‘aside’ , has anyone ever heard a more doom laden voice than George Lee ? He’d make you think you were going to your own funeral . Wonder does he speak to his missus like that ?

Widdershins · 05-10-2019 3:57pm

ZX7R wrote: »

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I thought ME were fairly spot on with the forecasts. Obviously they have to play it a bit on the safety first side, they’d be criticized badly if they didn’t.

But most of the country had a yellow warning and that was just about justified. Some windier than normal weather but nothing major.

And then orange for coastal areas were apparently it was a good bit worse.

What’s baffling is why the media went all out predicting a doomsday storm when that was never forecast.

The national broadcaster at least should have a duty to give accurate news reports.

Irish media should be ashamed of themselves,due to rte dropping in numbers viewing they are trying to attract younger audience so there basing there news feed on American trash news sites.
Plus a number of members not ALL on here who have Facebook pages also feed the ignorance of the uneducated.
Posting there own weather warnings since last Monday and those warnings based on extreme charts at the time even using similar Warnings to met earann.
This just caused confusion people believing someone down the road trowing warnings around because they think they know better than met earann.
The masses eat it up.
Nobody is been held responsible for the driviel they produce , wether it main stream media or online.
And it's only going to get worse, wait for a decent winter charts to come and you won't have to worry about mail saying months of snow.
It will be on the news and Facebook and people will believe it sadly.

Yes. Someone was telling me about the massive storm on its way. "It's all over the internet" he said. Oh! well then...must be true.

TheRiverman · 05-10-2019 4:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Just a little ‘aside’ , has anyone ever heard a more doom laden voice than George Lee ? He’d make you think you were going to your own funeral . Wonder does he speak to his missus like that ?

Fergal Bowers the health correspondent is quite doom laden too,but not in the same hyper doom voice as George.

TheRiverman · 05-10-2019 5:18pm

It has rained more in five hours today that it did during all of Thursday and Friday,but there are no alerts, because it didn't come from the remains of a northeast moving Hurricane,so therefore it does not merit any hyper activity by our climate change agenda ridden national broadcaster and other media.

lleti · 05-10-2019 5:45pm

Yep true. Weather today was worse than during the week, good job I wasn't driving or it would be dangerous but not a weather warning in sight!

Eoghan Murphy is a disgrace too, wanting to be seen as the great man guiding us to safety in an "emergency" while his failure as minister still bellows on.

appledrop · 05-10-2019 9:36pm

lleti wrote: »

Yep true. Weather today was worse than during the week, good job I wasn't driving or it would be dangerous but not a weather warning in sight!

I drove home this evening + roads were very dangerous. The main road to Donabate/ Lusk had very bad flooding in certain lanes. I slowed down in my lane but idiot beside flew through it + so much water thrown up on my windscreen for 2/3 sec I couldn't see out.

That could easily cause an accident. Why wasn't there weather warning about today. It's a joke.

s7ryf3925pivug · 05-10-2019 9:37pm

Last storm my bench outside got knocked backwards. This time an old fence panel fell over.

NIMAN · 05-10-2019 9:42pm

Kamili wrote: »

I can't understand why they went all out on this, when they're screaming about being broke and not getting enough licence fees etc. It was actually embarrassing.

I'd say they were praying for a bad storm so they could say afterwards, "what about our great reporting of it, now you know we deserve that extra e50mill we're looking for".

In hindsight, it looks like they sent loads of reporters and crews out all over the country at great expense, and end up looking more like money wasters than they ever did.

Jimmy Garlic · 05-10-2019 10:35pm

Jemma Rough Coin wrote: »

Last storm my bench outside got knocked backwards. This time an old fence panel fell over.

Your bins will fall over next lad.. be careful out there.

teednab-el · 05-10-2019 10:44pm

Storm in a teacup Lorenzo was.

iamwhoiam · 05-10-2019 10:50pm

Well I remember the days when we got no warnings red or yellow or any other colour . We had to look out the window to know it was stormy and when the neighbours patio table landed in our garden we knew it was fierce!

05-10-2019 10:59pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Well I remember the days when we got no warnings red or yellow or any other colour . We had to look out the window to know it was stormy and when the neighbours patio table landed in our garden we knew it was fierce!

Two things happened that allowed the sensationalism to take over - switching from mph to kph & introduction of the colour-coded warning systems. Culminating in RTÉ fuelling a near hysteria on Thursday, dispatching numerous reporters to breezy shores at considerable expense. You'll end up with a "boy who cried wolf" scenario when people inevitably start ignoring the daft hyperbole. With lives possibly endangered, and the same irresponsible media deflecting all blame to Met Éireann. Rinse and repeat.

iamwhoiam · 05-10-2019 11:01pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Two things happened that allowed the sensationalism to take over - switching from mph to kph & introduction of the colour-coded warning systems. Culminating in RTÉ fuelling a near hysteria on Thursday, dispatching numerous reporters to breezy shores at considerable expense. You'll end up with a "boy who cried wolf" scenario when people inevitably start ignoring the daft hyperbole. With lives possibly endangered, and the same irresponsible media deflecting all responsibility to Met Éireann. Rinse and repeat.

Exactly what we said here “ The boy who cried wolf “ will cause lives the next time

Weltsmertz · 06-10-2019 1:21am

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Well I remember the days when we got no warnings red or yellow or any other colour . We had to look out the window to know it was stormy and when the neighbours patio table landed in our garden we knew it was fierce!

It's amazing that we managed to survive the weather pre warnings.

lleti · 06-10-2019 9:27am

NIMAN wrote: »

I'd say they were praying for a bad storm so they could say afterwards, "what about our great reporting of it, now you know we deserve that extra e50mill we're looking for".

In hindsight, it looks like they sent loads of reporters and crews out all over the country at great expense, and end up looking more like money wasters than they ever did.

As someone on the radio said, tv ratings go mad when things like this happen. So they probably wanted the ratings to claim to RTE they're in such demand and so vital they need more money.

bazlers · 06-10-2019 10:15am

Yes they went too far and there was no going back, the boy who called wolf will certainly occur .. law of averages we will get a really severe storm with all the usual warnings but will the general public show the respect warranted to these warnings?
This could happen another four times this winter.
But what do you do. Media coverage means viewers and more of the green.
Unfortunately until someone gets seriously hurt or some serious occurance happens.
It will continue.

fryup · 06-10-2019 10:20am

teednab-el wrote: »

Storm in a teacup Lorenzo was.

great song

Widdershins · 06-10-2019 11:50am

It makes sense to ignore media coverage after this farce but If still follow met eireann's forecasts and warnings-which were proportionate and accurate. It seems like people barely differentiate between the hype on news stations and what met Eireann actually said.

Weltsmertz · 06-10-2019 11:53am

Widdershins wrote: »

It makes sense to ignore media coverage after this farce but If still follow met eireann's forecasts and warnings-which were proportionate and accurate. It seems like people barely differentiate between the hype on news stations and what met Eireann actually said.

Met Eireann issued "warnings". Many people are confused and differentiate between different colours. If they wanted to avoid scare mongering there is an easy enough solution. Get rid of warnings for normal weather.

is_that_so · 06-10-2019 11:57am

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Met Eireann issued "warnings". Many people are confused and differentiate between different colours. If they wanted to avoid scare mongering there is an easy enough solution. Get rid of warnings for normal weather.

Which suggests that the warnings themselves do not clearly communicate what they are intended for. I think they need to fine-tune them, especially the lowest one.

Weltsmertz · 06-10-2019 12:05pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Which suggests that the warnings themselves do not clearly communicate what they are intended for. I think they need to fine-tune them, especially the lowest one.

How about. *There's a chance there might be a bit of rain" instead of WARNING WARNING YELLOW ALERT

is_that_so · 06-10-2019 12:06pm

Weltsmertz wrote: »

How about. *There's a chance there might be a bit of rain" instead of WARNING WARNING YELLOW ALERT

Yeah, it's the fact that the actual forecast gets completely lost in the warning.

Storm 10 · 06-10-2019 12:15pm

Met Eireann should have made sure they stopped calling it an ex hurricane that's where the media jumped in, they should have called it storm Lorenzo from the start and insisted that RTE etc used this, George Lee went to town on the word hurricane with waves as big as a three story house heading for the West coast going to destroy the coast and storm force winds bringing down trees and power lines with flooding etc ,he frightened the life out of people who had no idea about the storm and he should have been taken to task over his wild comments. Also Met Eireann should have kept updating the website they put up the Amber warnings and the forecast at 12.19 on the Thursday was never touched all day long, they should have been updating this all day when they knew what was going on and coming on the 9pm news and extending the warnings until 6am with wind gusts of 130kph gave people the impression they were in for one hell of a night when at that time people on here were saying it was losing its intensity.

jackboy · 06-10-2019 12:21pm

George lee showed himself to be a trash journalist who makes entertainment a priority over truthful reporting. He should not be let report on the weather again. Rte have plenty good meteorologists who could do those segments.

Cork Boy 53 · 06-10-2019 1:28pm

jackboy wrote: »

George lee showed himself to be a trash journalist who makes entertainment a priority over truthful reporting. He should not be let report on the weather again. Rte have plenty good meteorologists who could do those segments.

You do know that Met Eireann meteorologists are not RTE employees?

jackboy · 06-10-2019 2:00pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

You do know that Met Eireann meteorologists are not RTE employees?

Well they do the weather forecasts for rte. They could either do the quick pieces on the news (instead of the ones that George lee butchers) or the weather forecast could be longer, including a bit of discussion.

At the moment the drama of the hyped up rte reports completely overshadows the weather forecasts.

fin12 · 06-10-2019 11:30pm

Fairly windy here tonight in Kerry, didn’t see or hear any warnings.

Kristopherus · 07-10-2019 12:03am

fin12 wrote: »

Fairly windy here tonight in Kerry, didn’t see or hear any warnings.

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

NIMAN · 07-10-2019 4:42am

Kristopherus wrote: »

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

So surely deserving of a yellow warning at least, no?

realdanbreen · 07-10-2019 8:24am

Just wondering, what's the point in being a windsurfer if everyone has a go at you when you go surfing in the wind!

fin12 · 07-10-2019 10:13am

Kristopherus wrote: »

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

Thanks I didn’t get a wink of sleep last night.

nacho libre · 07-10-2019 4:52pm

The point about weather forecasters now being reluctant to use their own intuition in the current namby pampy state we are in is a good one. The reality is the public will soon become dismissive of warnings if we have people like George Flee( sorry Lee) warning of the day after tomorrow everytime we get a bit of wind.

realdanbreen · 08-10-2019 10:27am

Maybe they should have George just reading out the deaths or something, he has the voice and tone for it.

KildareP · 08-10-2019 10:31am

realdanbreen wrote: »

Just wondering, what's the point in being a windsurfer if everyone has a go at you when you go surfing in the wind!

For the same reason as if a qualified driving instructor decides to go for a spin in snow drifts up the Sally Gap :P

Weltsmertz · 13-10-2019 10:42am

There hasn't been a weather warning now for nearly two weeks. Very unusual. Has Met Eireann reconsidered the alarmist scare tactics it uses in light of the damage to it's reputation and standing after Storm Lorenzo?

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