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Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭average hero


    Straight white male here.

    Not specifically doing anything for it and I don't like big public gatherings like Paddy's Day or anything so that's not my gig anyway. I am a passively tolerant bloke with friends from all over the spectrum so I don't feel the need to 'prove' any tolerance. If there is a 5-a-side or other sponsored event for it I may take part alright.

    I wonder how parts of the LGBTQI+ community feel about corporate sponsors co-opting the pride movement for their corporate ends.Is it positive or cynical? Anyways - best of luck to those who it affects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's a left wing virtue signalling agenda being shoved down our throats. I don't have a problem with the acts of homosexuality as such but I don't think people need to be showing it off as if "look at me I'm gay isn't it great" when the vast majority don't care it should be tolerated not embraced. I also find it ironic a lot of the people that support pride also support mass Islamic immigration which supports throwing gays off buildings.

    the world has moved past you. deal with it.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope hate crowds, not gay and anyone we do know who is aren't going either.

    Anyone who is going to the parade etc hope ye have a good time and fcuk the begrudgers


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    This is a big milestone for gay pride this year as it marks the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in New York, when the modern LGBT rights movement was born.

    In June 1969, the patrons of the Stonewall Inn, mourning the death of Judy Garland, resisted the routine police raids and harassment and rioted for 3 days and nights. The event caught worldwide media attention and the following year, 1970, the first gay pride march was held in New York.

    During the 1970s pride events spread throughout the Western world and Dublin has its first pride march in 1983 in reaction to the verdict of the trial of the killers of Declan Flynn, a gay man who was murdered in Fairview Park.

    Personally, I’ll be out of the country for the Dublin pride march and party (it’s a big piss up anyway which I avoid) but I’ve marched in Pride events before and it’s important to mark Pride to show how far we have come, to remember where we came from, out of the shadows and our closets, and to show solidarity with LGBT people in intolerant and oppressive regimes around the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    No, I've no interest in the subject or the events. I generally dislike being around groups of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    This is a big milestone for gay pride this year as it marks the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in New York, there the modern LGBT rights movement was born.

    In June 1969, the patrons of the Stonewall Inn, mourning the death of Judy Garland, resisted the routine police harassment and rioted for 3 days and nights. The event caught worldwide media attention and the following year, 1970, the first gay pride march was held in New York.

    During the 1970s pride events spread throughout the Western world and Dublin has its first pride march in 1983 in reaction to the verdict of the trial of the killers of Declan Flynn, a gay man who was murdered in Fairview Park.

    Personally, I’ll be out of the country for the Dublin pride march and party (it’s a bid piss up anyway which I avoid) but I’ve marched in Pride events before and it’s important to mark Pride to show how far we have come, to remember where we came from, out of the shadows and our closets, and to show solidarity with LGBT people in intolerant and oppressive regimes around the world.
    Dont forget the drag queens.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Delilah Tender Hermit


    biko wrote: »
    I wasn't planning to, but if I''m around when a party happens, then sure why not.

    i was going to say no but i'm changing my answer to this one
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's a left wing virtue signalling agenda being shoved down our throats. I don't have a problem with the acts of homosexuality as such but I don't think people need to be showing it off as if "look at me I'm gay isn't it great" when the vast majority don't care it should be tolerated not embraced. I also find it ironic a lot of the people that support pride also support mass Islamic immigration which supports throwing gays off buildings.


    acts of homosexuality as such, brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Not gay and I don't know any gays, so no.

    You more than likely do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I really don't.

    You mustn't know many people so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    the world has moved past you. deal with it.

    The LGBTQWEYHJSHGKDKLMNIY+%@%#!^&$*÷^#?(×^÷* is a globalist agenda. I think Ireland would be even more progressive if we did our thing and rejected these agendas which strive to take away anything unique or induvidual plenty of countries haven't bowed down to this nonsense and you wouldn't call them backward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    The LGBTQWEYHJSHGKDKLMNIY+%@%#!^&$*÷^#?(×^÷* is a globalist agenda. I think Ireland would be even more progressive if we did our thing and rejected these agendas which strive to take away anything unique or induvidual plenty of countries haven't bowed down to this nonsense and you wouldn't call them backward.

    george soros, amirite?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    A whole month of cringe?

    Nope.

    Have you made your anti-Pride religious protest poster yet? Have you chosen the colours, remember to leave out the rainbow colour! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    george soros, amirite?

    When did I mention George Soros? All I'm saying is gays should keep their sexuality to themselves not go around banging the LGBT drum you know just like straight people don't push their straightness down gays throats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    to show solidarity with LGBT people in intolerant and oppressive regimes around the world.

    This is a genuine question, and I hope I'm not derailing the thread. Someone asked similar earlier and it was just dismissed.

    Why do the LGBTQ community regularly show such strong support for Islam and Muslim groups. Even though Islamic views on homosexuality range from "its sinful" on the moderate scale to "hang them from buildings" on the radical scale.

    I genuinely don't understand it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    When did I mention George Soros? All I'm saying is gays should keep their sexuality to themselves not go around banging the LGBT drum you know just like straight people don't push their straightness down gays throats.

    Straight people don't get beaten up for being straight, they can hold hands walking down the street unlike gay people.

    If a straight pride happened, it'll be filled with male "masculine offended" marchers which in irony would like a gay march :D (perhaps they finally show their sensitive side! :pac:)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭SirGerryAdams


    No I will be avoiding everything related to pride. I treat gays like every other person I meet. I will not put gays on a pedestal and treat them like they're different to straight people. I also don't support corps using gay people as a tool to make money. Shame on them.

    If gay people are bullied, attacked etc, the law is there to protect them. We have voted for marriage equality. Ireland is a place where gays are widely accepted as equal and I think it's absolutely stupid that you'd need to have a parade for people to know gays are supported.

    Racism exists in the gaa at underage levels...why aren't the GAA doing a black pride march for them?

    Irish people were victims of racism in the UK and still are yet I don't see any Irish Pride marches there?

    I know gay lads who are dead sound and are just like everyone else. Then I see a lot of gay lads acting like being gay is an identity....like Daffyd from Little Britain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    This is a genuine question, and I hope I'm not derailing the thread. Someone asked similar earlier and it was just dismissed.

    Why do the LGBTQ community regularly show such strong support for Islam and Muslim groups. Even though Islamic views on homosexuality range from "its sinful" on the moderate scale to "hang them from buildings" on the radical scale.

    I genuinely don't understand it.


    Me either


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-48580310


    Cant the kids just learn about different relationships, obviously not if it is against the teachings of the once great muhammad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    So this is just gonna turn into another Muslim thread I take it? Like the gay women on the bus one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Have you made your anti-Pride religious protest poster yet? Have you chosen the colours, remember to leave out the rainbow colour! :rolleyes:


    Do you go out of your way to look to be oppressed or something? :pac:

    “Pride month” is nothing more than the promotion of a particular political viewpoint, fcukall to do with being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. As I’ve told you before, I used to be involved in organising Pride parades, but when I didn’t agree with their politics any more, I no longer wanted to be involved.

    As it happens, I actually don’t know that many people who have any interest in political rallying masquerading as a Pride event these days, it’s just another tacky effort to sell tacky merch like flegs and feather boas to people who are into that sort of thing. I wouldn’t assume that people by virtue of their sex, sexual orientation or gender share a hive mind, any more than I would assume people who are religious are all bigots. As your post demonstrates there are many ways in which people are bigots.

    Seven colours in the rainbow btw, which is why the rainbow was chosen as a symbol of the political movement - meant to imply acceptance of all people, not just those of a certain political bent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Straight people don't get beaten up for being straight, they can hold hands walking down the street unlike gay people.

    If a straight pride happened, it'll be filled with male "masculine offended" marchers which in irony would like a gay march :D (perhaps they finally show their sensitive side! :pac:)

    And the vast majority that go around beating up gays are Muslims guess what the same people that support pride will support Muslim immigration into the west sort of ironic. All ii am saying is homosexuality should be accepted but not promoted or embraced. Some people don't agree with it and their perfectly entitled to that as long as they hurt anyone.

    The whole straight pride idea was a piss take and a joke that some lefties took offence to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Omackeral wrote: »
    So this is just gonna turn into another Muslim thread I take it? Like the gay women on the bus one.

    That's not my intention, I asked a simple question that should hopefully have a simple answer. There was no gay-bashing and no Muslim-bashing in the question and I wouldn't expect any in the reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    And the vast majority that go around beating up gays are Muslims

    Have you a source for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Omackeral wrote: »
    So this is just gonna turn into another Muslim thread I take it? Like the gay women on the bus one.
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    And the vast majority that go around beating up gays are Muslims

    Well it wasn't my intention, but I may have opened the door for others...

    Apologies. I was genuinely curious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I’m waiting for the straight month to celebrate. Anyone know when that is??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I’m waiting for the straight month to celebrate. Anyone know when that is??

    You can have one of these if you like...

    cuh_tweet_2.jpg?resize=430%2C361&ssl=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I’m waiting for the straight month to celebrate. Anyone know when that is??

    you can pick any one of january, february, march, etc. Hell, pick them all.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    So this is just gonna turn into another Muslim thread I take it? Like the gay women on the bus one.

    Well normally the same posters that have issues with homosexuals, so maybe yes, like moths to a flame until the mods get tired dealing with the rereg/duplicate accounts etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭This is it


    Is this for a month, annually?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This is it wrote: »
    Is this for a month, annually?

    would it bother you if it was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Zaph wrote: »
    A Pride network for LGBTQ staff is being launched where I work this month. I'm not gay, but I'll go to the launch because I feel it's important that my colleagues who are know that they have the support of the non-LGBTQ majority in the company. I hope there's plenty of others who feel the same, although I know there are bound to be some who are not particularly comfortable with "the gays".

    That's all well and good... But a fooking month of it??

    A Saturday afternoon is more than adequate in this day and age IMHO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    That's all well and good... But a fooking month of it??

    A Saturday afternoon was more than adequate in this day and age IMHO.

    you know you are not obliged to do anything, right? it could on for a year and it would make **** all difference to your life so why moan about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭This is it


    would it bother you if it was?

    Why would it bother me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    This is it wrote: »
    Is this for a month, annually?

    Only since companies realised they could make some money from it

    Most people only do something the weekend of the parade and most of those events are the Friday or Saturday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    you know you are not obliged to do anything, right? it could on for a year and it would make **** all difference to your life so why moan about it?

    Yeah, it's not like people are pressurised into attending events etc because of the need to be 'on message'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Do you go out of your way to look to be oppressed or something? :pac:

    “Pride month” is nothing more than the promotion of a particular political viewpoint, fcukall to do with being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. As I’ve told you before, I used to be involved in organising Pride parades, but when I didn’t agree with their politics any more, I no longer wanted to be involved.

    As it happens, I actually don’t know that many people who have any interest in political rallying masquerading as a Pride event these days, it’s just another tacky effort to sell tacky merch like flegs and feather boas to people who are into that sort of thing. I wouldn’t assume that people by virtue of their sex, sexual orientation or gender share a hive mind, any more than I would assume people who are religious are all bigots. As your post demonstrates there are many ways in which people are bigots.

    Seven colours in the rainbow btw, which is why the rainbow was chosen as a symbol of the political movement - meant to imply acceptance of all people, not just those of a certain political bent.

    That's excellent news One Eyed Jack that you've turned a corner and won't be holding up your protest sign at the Pride, it makes me as a LGBT ally not to look out for you on the day! Strangely I have never met you in the organising sphere of Dublin Pride(assuming you are in the big schmoke :) )

    Not sure what you on about on the political front but i'd agree that there is uneasy tension within the community about corporates taking over Pride full of non-LGBT marchers(while ignoring disabled access) plus the recently separate Trans Pride to get away from the corporate takeover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Stark wrote: »
    I usually do the 5km run in the Phoenix Park, good fun.

    Keep an eye out for Labour Party TDs after dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Keep an eye out for Labour Party TDs after dark.

    you need to come up with some newer material


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Keep an eye out for Labour Party TDs after dark.

    The auld Stagg in the park ya see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    you need to come up with some newer material

    Keating/Kennedy?


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  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A day or a weekend, not my thing but meh, whatever. A whole month now? It’s a bit ridiculous. How can we normalise something generally when such a spectacle is made of it by *some* LGBTQ folks, their friends/families, activists and worst of all the corporate whores looking to capitalise on it?

    I show my support to my gay friends and family by treating them just like my straight friends and family. And I don’t celebrate anyone’s sexuality or their right to love, marry or shag whoever they want. Not my business, either way. So no, I won’t be participating.


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The auld Stagg in the park ya see.

    Oh deer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Won't be doing anything, and I dislike companies using Pride as a cash cow, but marking the 50th anniversary of Stonewall seems worthwhile to me. Won't be attending though as big mad piss-ups aren't for me. Same as the way I don't attend St. Patrick's Day events.
    I’m waiting for the straight month to celebrate. Anyone know when that is??
    But when were straight people ostracised/abused for being straight? When was heterosexuality a crime?

    I know things have come a long way since the dark days (and they were very dark) but I understand a celebration of how far things have come, and how hard people worked to make it so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    klaaaz wrote: »
    That's excellent news One Eyed Jack that you've turned a corner and won't be holding up your protest sign at the Pride, it makes me as a LGBT ally not to look out for you on the day! Strangely I have never met you in the organising sphere of Dublin Pride(assuming you are in the big schmoke :) )


    Under his eye klaaaz, eh? :pac:

    Not sure what you on about on the political front but i'd agree that there is uneasy tension within the community about corporates taking over Pride full of non-LGBT marchers(while ignoring disabled access) plus the recently separate Trans Pride to get away from the corporate takeover.


    I don’t believe for a minute you’re uncertain as to what I’m on about on the political front when you’ve always been quite vocal about your distaste for people who are conservative or religious, ignoring of course the fact that being LGBT, conservative or religious are not mutually exclusive concepts, As demonstrated to you before by the example of Caitlyn Jenner who some people will try their best to exclude from these types of events and still have the balls to call themselves a “community”.

    The fact is that without the aid of corporate sponsorship, Pride wouldn’t have become the social event on the Hallmark Calendar that it is now, so understandably that is going to cause conflict between people who wish to remain marginalised and lament the idea that “society doesn’t accept them”, and those people who aren’t marginalised “enough” to be part of “the movement” any more. And that’s why Trans Pride has evolved, not to get away from any corporate sponsorship, but rather to promote their own victimhood, because the Pride movement has become “too mainstream” for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    No I will be avoiding everything related to pride. I treat gays like every other person I meet. I will not put gays on a pedestal and treat them like they're different to straight people. I also don't support corps using gay people as a tool to make money. Shame on them.

    If gay people are bullied, attacked etc, the law is there to protect them. We have voted for marriage equality. Ireland is a place where gays are widely accepted as equal and I think it's absolutely stupid that you'd need to have a parade for people to know gays are supported.

    Racism exists in the gaa at underage levels...why aren't the GAA doing a black pride march for them?

    Irish people were victims of racism in the UK and still are yet I don't see any Irish Pride marches there?

    I know gay lads who are dead sound and are just like everyone else. Then I see a lot of gay lads acting like being gay is an identity....like Daffyd from Little Britain.
    Everyone knows that, and yeh probably dont 'need' pride(in ireland), but its just a bit of fun. What is the harm


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I also agree that Pride has got way too corporatised and commercial and these big bucks companies ”sponsoring” Pride is all about shameless promotion, advertising and money making. There are always strings attached.

    This is a problem common to most big Pride events worldwide nowadays, but in the early days, when Pride marches were real protests against discrimination, intolerance and criminalisation, very very few companies wanted to be in any way associated with the gay rights movement.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    I don’t believe for a minute you’re uncertain as to what I’m on about on the political front when you’ve always been quite vocal about your distaste for people who are conservative or religious, ignoring of course the fact that being LGBT, conservative or religious are not mutually exclusive concepts, As demonstrated to you before by the example of Caitlyn Jenner who some people will try their best to exclude from these types of events and still have the balls to call themselves a “community”.

    The fact is that without the aid of corporate sponsorship, Pride wouldn’t have become the social event on the Hallmark Calendar that it is now, so understandably that is going to cause conflict between people who wish to remain marginalised and lament the idea that “society doesn’t accept them”, and those people who aren’t marginalised “enough” to be part of “the movement” any more. And that’s why Trans Pride has evolved, not to get away from any corporate sponsorship, but rather to promote their own victimhood, because the Pride movement has become “too mainstream” for them.

    Oh Jack, where have our hugs gone? :o

    Conservatives/religious or just conservative religious people have never accepted Pride due to their Biblical obsession despite them breaking other rules of their devout book!

    As for Caitlyn who you brought up, she came from a super rich background which the vast majority of trans people have no relation to, that person does not represent the trans community. As you know the vast majority of the trans community still suffer discrimination in our own country. As to the Trans Pride which is not victimhood as you put it despite your laughable past "thorough" knowledge of their issues, you're completely wrong. They need to demonstrate for their needs and recently had a meeting with our beloved health minister, but of course you didn't know that as you don't give a hoot about trans people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Oh Jack, where have our hugs gone? :o


    They weren’t “our” hugs in the first place! There was you telling me I should try hugging people, I said I’m not into that, and in our very next interaction you ignored the fact that I had made you aware I’m not into that sort of thing. That whole episode is entirely about you, not me. I didn’t want any part of your hugging people. It’s weird, frankly. I can understand a child wanting to hug people and I make allowances for them, but an adult behaving like a child? No.

    Conservatives/religious or just conservative religious people have never accepted Pride due to their Biblical obsession despite them breaking other rules of their devout book!


    Absolute nonsense. You’re speaking as though every religious/conservative person is of the same mindset when the reality is that they aren’t. Just like your faulty assumptions about people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender that they are all of the same mindset as yourself. They’re evidently not. That’s why Pride has been overtaken by, and become a vehicle for, people who share your political beliefs, and less of a movement that people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender can identify with - because they simply have nothing in common any more with what Pride has become.

    As for Caitlyn who you brought up, she came from a super rich background which the vast majority of trans people have no relation to, that person does not represent the trans community. As you know the vast majority of the trans community still suffer discrimination in our own country.


    Actually, as much as you hate to acknowledge her, she is transgender, and she is one of the most high profile representatives of people who are transgender, along with a whole host of celebrities. Because as I have also pointed out to you before - conditions such as gender dysphoria don’t give a shìte for a persons politics. They’re a naturally occurring phenomenon in humans, as demonstrated among the Hijra people of India who don’t share Western cultural conceptions of gender and sexuality.

    I don’t agree with you either that the vast majority of people who are transgender suffer discrimination in our own country. Everyone experiences discrimination of one form or another on a daily basis, and I don’t agree for a minute that people who are transgender experience any greater discrimination than anyone else in Irish society. If you’d said the vast majority of members of the traveller community I might have agreed you had a point, but the vast majority of people who are transgender? No.

    As to the Trans Pride which is not victimhood as you put it despite your laughable past "thorough" knowledge of their issues, you're completely wrong. They need to demonstrate for their needs and recently had a meeting with our beloved health minister, but of course you didn't know that as you don't give a hoot about trans people.


    That’s exactly what it is - some people believe they are even greater victims than mainstream Pride will acknowledge, and so they set up their own little parade. They’re the MGTOW of the Pride movement. I do care about people btw, I just don’t care for your politics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    No plans to, like others have commented its not really for me as i don't fit the demographic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    They weren’t “our” hugs in the first place! There was you telling me I should try hugging people, I said I’m not into that, and in our very next interaction you ignored the fact that I had made you aware I’m not into that sort of thing. That whole episode is entirely about you, not me. I didn’t want any part of your hugging people. It’s weird, frankly. I can understand a child wanting to hug people and I make allowances for them, but an adult behaving like a child? No.

    Is this you showing your sensitive side, perhaps you have feelings?
    Absolute nonsense. You’re speaking as though every religious/conservative person is of the same mindset when the reality is that they aren’t. Just like your faulty assumptions about people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender that they are all of the same mindset as yourself. They’re evidently not. That’s why Pride has been overtaken by, and become a vehicle for, people who share your political beliefs, and less of a movement that people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender can identify with - because they simply have nothing in common any more with what Pride has become.

    Actually, as much as you hate to acknowledge her, she is transgender, and she is one of the most high profile representatives of people who are transgender, along with a whole host of celebrities. Because as I have also pointed out to you before - conditions such as gender dysphoria don’t give a shìte for a persons politics. They’re a naturally occurring phenomenon in humans, as demonstrated among the Hijra people of India who don’t share Western cultural conceptions of gender and sexuality.

    Caitlyn is not a rep of the transgender community, where did you spring that one from? Watching too much of the Kardashian shows?
    I don’t agree with you either that the vast majority of people who are transgender suffer discrimination in our own country. Everyone experiences discrimination of one form or another on a daily basis, and I don’t agree for a minute that people who are transgender experience any greater discrimination than anyone else in Irish society. If you’d said the vast majority of members of the traveller community I might have agreed you had a point, but the vast majority of people who are transgender? No.

    That’s exactly what it is - some people believe they are even greater victims than mainstream Pride will acknowledge, and so they set up their own little parade. They’re the MGTOW of the Pride movement. I do care about people btw, I just don’t care for your politics.

    Oh yes they do suffer discrimination even walking down the street as simple as transphobes get upset at their appearance, those offended men are so delicate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Caitlyn is not a rep of the transgender community, where did you spring that one from? Watching too much of the Kardashian shows?


    How to qualify as representative of people who are transgender- be transgender.

    She fits the bill.

    Oh yes they do suffer discrimination even walking down the street as simple as transphobes get upset at their appearance, those offended men are so delicate.


    I’m not sure which offended men you’re referring to as delicate offended men - transgender men or transphobic men? Either way it’s still not comparable to the discrimination faced by the traveller community in Irish society, and to claim that you face anything like the same discrimination they face is just laughable.


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