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Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Winter starting as autumn finished in Donegal, another nice calm bright day with plenty of sunshine

    Long may this reversal of North West and South East continue :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Captain Snow


    Gavs Winter Forecast 2019/2020



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Yip! Winter has started in Dublin as Autumn left off....light rain.

    And look at the air pressure
    Near 1030mb ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,955 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Gavs Winter Forecast 2019/2020


    Interesting forecast. I think he might be right about how it pans out- cold outbreaks throughout the winter, but nothing too prolonged.
    This winter might see a few frontal snow events, and a split at times between the north and north east of the country, which could be cold and snowy at times, with milder weather in the south.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Lovely evening here in Kerry , clear skies for the most part , calm and cold at 3.4C . Ice already on the roof of the cars in the sheltered side of the house.

    Fog forming about 30 mins ago.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    highdef wrote: »
    Had wet snow in North Kildare around dawn this morning. Was very surprised as I was expecting frost this morning.

    Saw a bit myself this morning around 5:30 am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Already -0.5c in Kildare


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    It's great to get to December. Game on now for some decent cold weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Cold and frosty under a clear sky with just some shallow fog about. Currently -0.8c but had dipped to -1.4c earlier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Windscreen lighted frosted over at 7.30!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    0.8c in Kilrush, Co.Clare currently, with a nice light smog over the town. A nice distinctive coal smell to the air, always reminds me of a nice crisp winters evening.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Interesting forecast. I think he might be right about how it pans out- cold outbreaks throughout the winter, but nothing too prolonged.
    This winter might see a few frontal snow events, and a split at times between the north and north east of the country, which could be cold and snowy at times, with milder weather in the south.

    hard to know what to make of that winter forecast. The gist i'm getting from it is we are in for a mainly Atlantic driven winter and any cold outbreaks will be short lived. We do look to be in for a very unsettled December, but I think after that, everything's up in the air for now. Hopefully we will have a dryer January-March, with the Jetstream heading into somewhere like Morocco. My money is on the Atlantic to dominate the majority of the winter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    0.8c in Kilrush, Co.Clare currently, with a nice light smog over the town. A nice distinctive coal smell to the air, always reminds me of a nice crisp winters evening.

    Are you some sort of climate denier! :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    0.8c in Kilrush, Co.Clare currently, with a nice light smog over the town. A nice distinctive coal smell to the air, always reminds me of a nice crisp winters evening.

    -2 in in North Clare, no smog, twinkling stars, fresh air and crispy crunchy grass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Frost here in meath since sunset, had to clear ice on the car at 6.15, lovely crisp night out there


  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭diceyd


    Nice


  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭KingdomRushed


    Funny I read a news story saying that the Irish Bookies had greatly lengthened the odds on a white christmas in last few days, when my thoughts were actually starting to think the opposite. This morning's GFS run shows some very wintry weather from mid December. As long as patterns like this keep appearing in the mix I would be slow to rule out snow in December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Lovely frosty morning in West Clare, currently -1.1c with sun and mostly clear skies, bar a bit of high cloud. Sun making easy work of defrosting things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭kod87


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Lovely frosty morning in West Clare, currently -1.1c with sun and mostly clear skies, bar a bit of high cloud. Sun making easy work of defrosting things.

    Yeah, similar to here in Tipp, perfect winters morning, wish this was more typical of our winter weather. More bright frosty mornings please


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Was a cold first winter night in cork city. Currently about 2/3 degrees but as my house is north facing the roofs and cars are still frosted over


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,955 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Gonzo wrote: »
    hard to know what to make of that winter forecast. The gist i'm getting from it is we are in for a mainly Atlantic driven winter and any cold outbreaks will be short lived. We do look to be in for a very unsettled December, but I think after that, everything's up in the air for now. Hopefully we will have a dryer January-March, with the Jetstream heading into somewhere like Morocco. My money is on the Atlantic to dominate the majority of the winter.

    This is pretty much what the Netweather forecast is saying. I think in such a pattern we can get decent, albeit short lived, snow events, but if you are after several ice days in a row you will likely be disappointed. If it does pan out like this, it will at least be better than last year. So hopefully we can get a potent northerly of old this winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Goldfinch8


    After a beautiful dawn this morning, we are finishing with a glorious evening skyscape. A December day that really delivered at both ends here in central Mayo. More of these please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Similar in Dublin. Missed the sunrise but sunset was beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    The Netweather Winter forecast,thats another winter down the ****ter,

    great i can put my mind at ease.



    https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/uk/long-range/seasonal


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Beautiful sunset in cork city today and drove out a bit too and looked lovely over all the fields with fog forming in them.

    Down to about 1/1.5 degrees here in my garden now in the bishops town/Wilton area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Beautiful sunset in cork city today and drove out a bit too and looked lovely over all the fields with fog forming in them.

    Down to about 1/1.5 degrees here in my garden now in the bishops town/Wilton area.

    One of the best ive ever seen in Cork (Outside of summer).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Similar in Dublin. Missed the sunrise but sunset was beautiful.

    What a beautiful shot!

    From what I remember, sunrise wasn't really anything to write home about so you didn't really miss much.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    The Netweather Winter forecast,thats another winter down the ****ter,

    great i can put my mind at ease.



    https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/uk/long-range/seasonal

    Pffft amateur I put my mind at ease months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Similar in Dublin. Missed the sunrise but sunset was beautiful.
    Lovely shot Syran. There seems to have been a lot of these unusual skyscapes (for the time of year.) around these last few weeks at times.

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Artane2002 wrote: »
    What a beautiful shot!

    From what I remember, sunrise wasn't really anything to write home about so you didn't really miss much.

    A stunner of a sunrise this morning though!

    It's very frosty and cold too in Dublin 5. It's already been a better winter than last year even though we're only three days in...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Goldfinch8


    Another largely clear morning here in this part of Mayo but change is afoot. The breeze which has taken a bit of a sabbatical here recently has reappeared in the form of a cool freshening southerly with a wee bite to it. I agree with one of Oneiric's posts recently in the Autumn thread about the general lack of storminess and strong winds over the past number of weeks in this part of the world. The breeze is usually a constant companion down here during autumn and early winter. I do know however that all somebody needs to do is leave the door ajar and the good old Atlantic will be back in. I will bank these last few days of early winter gladly.
    4c.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭jprboy


    I've searched but can't locate M.T.'s winter forecast.

    Anyone able to point me towards it?

    Thanks!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    jprboy wrote: »
    I've searched but can't locate M.T.'s winter forecast.

    Anyone able to point me towards it?

    Thanks!

    Mild, Wet, Windy. /End


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    Can you please stop filling up the thread with this rubbish?

    Yer man M.T.s long term forecast is what usually turns out to be rubbish TBH.

    The same as the postman from Donegal and some guy in NZ and a few more.

    Get it right once in a while and people they are some sort of guru.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Tzmaster90


    easypazz wrote: »
    Yer man M.T.s long term forecast is what usually turns out to be rubbish TBH.

    The same as the postman from Donegal and some guy in NZ and a few more.

    Get it right once in a while and people they are some sort of guru.

    Don't disrespect M.T he knows more than you he was working at it longer but I do hope he is wrong and we have more cold and snowy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Tzmaster90 wrote: »
    Don't disrespect M.T he knows more than you he was working at it longer but I do hope he is wrong and we have more cold and snowy

    He's making a fair point, LRF are rubbish, it's nothing to do with disrespecting someone. It's all well and fine saying there's a 60% chance of a colder than average winter, but that still means there's a 40% chance of that not being the case. Not particularly useful.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,955 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    pauldry wrote: »
    The first pulse of cold has already got less cold....the 2nd one will follow and instead of 2 or 3c we will get 5 to 8c

    Always happens.....except in 2010 and the beast.

    Well, yes that event has led to unrealistic expectations, if you are holding out for that each time there is talk of cold weather you are are likely to be disappointed.

    I am hoping for a 2- three day cold spell with a polar low - just like the ones we use to know. I think we can get that at some stage if the current pattern in the northern hemisphere holds. Several icedays in a row are unlikely in a mobile regime, but if the jet has a tendency to stay to the south, we may get decent arctic incursions at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    When can ye expect to have confidence in those cold charts for dec 10 + ? Seems to be showing the cold for a couple of runs now , are all the models in agreement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    US2 wrote: »
    When can ye expect to have confidence in those cold charts for dec 10 + ? Seems to be showing the cold for a couple of runs now , are all the models in agreement?

    Real confidence? Wait for +72hrs and all in agreement. A Very fragile but also potentially very interesting setup coming up - Reasonable confidence once you get inside +120hrs. Anything beyond +144hrs is liable to significant change.

    Cold and unsettled from around the 10/11th onwards going by the GFS and ECM. UKMO quite a bit flatter on this afternoon's 12z run though so confidence low beyond +120hrs at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    Beautiful sunset in cork city today and drove out a bit too and looked lovely over all the fields with fog forming in them.


    Aye, some great sunsets these past couple of evenings..


    Co.down


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Some nice lenticular clouds over the Dublin mountains this evening.


    NZyzou7.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    The reality of the cold artic plunge next week now begining to filter into the BBC forecast outlook.
    Cold begining to get locked in now, GFS and ECM in agreement.

    '' A plume of cold air pushes out of the Artic across our shores''
    ''Things turning very much wintery...an increased chance of severe frosts and snow showers''



    https://www.bbc.com/weather/features/50652225


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    easypazz wrote: »
    Yer man M.T.s long term forecast is what usually turns out to be rubbish TBH.

    The same as the postman from Donegal and some guy in NZ and a few more.

    Get it right once in a while and people they are some sort of guru.

    Mod Note

    easypazz , no need for such statements on this forum.

    Disagree if you will with another posters views but show respect especially to MT who has contributed so much over many years to this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭YanSno


    Cold Wintry weather in pretty much in agreement for next week. Icon seems to be going that way too. Further down, Potential of a Blocking, HP could be to our North East which will introduce either an easterly or North easterly. This could happen before Christmas or just after, long way off though. Regarding next week uppers could be on the marginal side along the coast and also potential of some long fetch streams as the week goes on. Still in FI, Let's see how this pans out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    easypazz wrote: »
    Yer man M.T.s long term forecast is what usually turns out to be rubbish TBH.

    The same as the postman from Donegal and some guy in NZ and a few more.

    Get it right once in a while and people they are some sort of guru.

    He's a very knowledgable guy just doing his best . As you say long range forecasting is difficult, should nobody try at all then? His intentions are good and I dont see the point in trying to bring him down like that. Lots of people enjoy reading his forecasts even if they dont come to fruition I dont think anyone has ever put too much stock into something forecast so far out, it's just a bit of fun and is a nice kick off to the winter weather model watching season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Good sign when YanSno is getting onboard,if I remember rightly he/she called last winter fairly accurately saying we would never get that deep cold the charts were indicating at various stages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Some beautiful sunsets in Dublin over last few evenings. Last night was unreal.

    Loving this current weather. Freezing cold but beautiful sunshine + not a drop of rain.

    Long may it continue!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭jprboy


    jprboy wrote: »
    I've searched but can't locate M.T.'s winter forecast.

    Anyone able to point me towards it?

    Thanks!


    Well, that got interesting …… !!

    No-one answered the question though - anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Goldfinch8


    Breeze nicely up in Mayo now. Watching rain on the radar along the west coast. Normal service resumed. Will just have to keep viewing the sunset pictures from the weather posters to remind me of Paradise Lost!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    Tzmaster90 wrote: »
    Like i Said still disrespect don't want to know what you see as being disrespectful he was calling rubbish but also point to M.T on here longer then you or me so enough i hope it is cold and his Forecast is not right but would not call rubbish :) Even Mod agreed with that user anyway move along i want Shnowww

    I stand by my point. Is there merit in doing them to try and improve the accuracy going forward? Absolutely. But in terms of accuracy they're rubbish.


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