What will the next tax be.

Checkmate19 · 01-05-2018 10:35am #1

The sugar tax is in now. The min alcohol pricing coming. What other tax's do people see coming because sure as hell they will. Coffee cup and plastic tax are probably the two next one's.

And sure as hell the sugar tax won't be used to fight obesity. Not a chance. The same as the property tax. That is just used to pay something else off. See the bin charges are now including green bins. Like anything once they get them in they just go up.

This min alcohol pricing will start at a level on go up. And its starting at nearly two and a half times the Scotland level. It seems this govt are just hell bent on taking what little pleasures people have left and taxing them on them.

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 10:41am

Plastic "disposable" cups piss me off no end and should be taxed out of existence.

taserfrank · 01-05-2018 10:43am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

What other tax's do people see coming because sure as hell they will.

The abortion tax.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 01-05-2018 10:43am

Property tax to be expanded to new builds for sure anyway. Plug that hole they see coming. Some kind of motor tax reform is definitely on the way too.

Rjd2 · 01-05-2018 10:43am

Sugar tax is a tax on poor people.loathsome idea.

Tabnabs · 01-05-2018 10:44am

Water tax, it hasn't gone away...

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 10:51am

Tabnabs wrote: »

Water tax, it hasn't gone away...

We already pay 2 taxes that fund water:

Motor Tax
General Taxation

Should we introduce a third?

King George VI · 01-05-2018 10:52am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

The sugar tax is in now. The min alcohol pricing coming.

I lump these under the blanket "happiness tax", soon to include the orgasm tax, the after-work-5-a-side tax, the tax tax (where you pay tax on the tax you already paid) and of course the 2 euro for a hostel tax - where you pay the government 2 euro or be locked in a hostel.

Under His Majesty King Leo no fun is allowed unless you pay handsomely for the privilege or die. Each one is acceptable to our fabulous Monarch.

eeguy · 01-05-2018 10:53am

Tax on buying second hand cars over 10k.

Similar to the VRT system where you pay a fee to transfer ownership.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 10:53am

King George VI wrote: »

I lump these under the blanket "happiness tax", soon to include the orgasm tax, the after-work-5-a-side tax, the tax tax (where you pay tax on the tax you already paid) and of course the 2 euro for a hostel tax - where you pay the government 2 euro or be locked in a hostel.

Under His Majesty King Leo no fun is allowed unless you pay handsomely for the privilege or die. Each one is acceptable to our fabulous Monarch.

I hate to break it to you but the tax tax (where you pay tax on the tax you already paid) has already been introduced, where you pay VAT on duty for fuel.
Or if registering a new car you pay VAT on VRT.

sbsquarepants · 01-05-2018 10:56am

King George VI wrote: »

Under His Majesty King Leo no fun is allowed unless you pay handsomely for the privilege or die. Each one is acceptable to our fabulous Monarch.

He's not all bad - I hear he's set to slash the tax on novelty socks:D

Dakota Dan · 01-05-2018 10:59am

ELM327 wrote: »

We already pay 2 taxes that fund water:
Motor Tax

General Taxation

Should we introduce a third?

I'm paying for water 3 times so, private well.

sbsquarepants · 01-05-2018 10:59am

ELM327 wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but the tax tax (where you pay tax on the tax you already paid) has already been introduced, where you pay VAT on duty for fuel.
.

If you take it that your wages are taxed, then the fuel itself is taxed, then the tax on the fuel is taxed, it works out roughly, that to purchase €50 worth of petrol you need to earn €200 - the government then takes €150 of it:mad:

Kimbot · 01-05-2018 11:00am

The sex tax.... everytime you have sex or masturbate you have to give up 5euro as a tax......

Pat Mustard · 01-05-2018 11:02am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

The sugar tax is in now. The min alcohol pricing coming. What other tax's do people see coming because sure as hell they will. Coffee cup and plastic tax are probably the two next one's.

I would like to see a Muppet Tax. A tax on all of the complete idiots out there.

The tax should be voluntary, so that only idiots pay it.

It should be disguised as a product that you don't need and it should be superficially attractive but essentially useless.

I am thinking along the lines of the lottery but that is already there so it has to be something new.

Any ideas?

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 11:04am

Pat Mustard wrote: »

I would like to see a Muppet Tax. A tax on all of the complete idiots out there.

The tax should be voluntary, so that only idiots pay it.

It should be disguised as a product that you don't need and it should be superficially attractive but essentially useless.

I am thinking along the lines of the lottery but that is already there so it has to be something new.

Any ideas?

Soft drinks.

robarmstrong · 01-05-2018 11:04am

Kimbot wrote: »

The sex tax.... everytime you have sex or masturbate you have to give up 5euro as a tax......

A new recession is forthcumming.

Pat Mustard · 01-05-2018 11:06am

jimgoose wrote: »

Soft drinks.

Is that what you think whenever you see someone with a Fanta?

Hitman3000 · 01-05-2018 11:06am

ELM327 wrote:

Should we introduce a third?

They tried and will try again.

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 11:07am

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Is that what you think whenever you see someone with a Fanta?

I don't personally like soft drinks, they're full of sugar and give me shockin' wind.

RiderOnTheStorm · 01-05-2018 11:09am

Can see an internet tax coming in .... Spend a lot of time on Netflix? You gotta pay the state for loss of income from TV licence

Or an anti-recession tax, for when we need to bail out the next generation of bankers / fund managers / developers / general-elite (delete as applicable)

Vladimir Poontang · 01-05-2018 11:10am

A tax on sulkys and illegally parked caravans and piebald ponies.

Enforced by confiscation and destruction.

weldoninhio · 01-05-2018 11:10am

Pat Mustard wrote: »

I would like to see a Muppet Tax. A tax on all of the complete idiots out there.

The tax should be voluntary, so that only idiots pay it.

It should be disguised as a product that you don't need and it should be superficially attractive but essentially useless.

I am thinking along the lines of the lottery but that is already there so it has to be something new.

Any ideas?

Turkeys wouldn't vote for Xmas, so I don't think politicians are going to tax themselves heavily.

JMNolan · 01-05-2018 11:13am

Can never figure out why the betting tax isn't higher, maybe they'll tackle that?

Junk food is an obvious one, chippers, McDonalds, that sort of thing.

Kimbot · 01-05-2018 11:14am

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Can see an internet tax coming in .... Spend a lot of time on Netflix? You gotta pay the state for loss of income from TV licence

Or an anti-recession tax, for when we need to bail out the next generation of bankers / fund managers / developers / general-elite (delete as applicable)

Isnt that what the broadcast lisence is going to sort out for them when they eventually bring it in, a tax on people having access to the internet etc.

BattleCorp · 01-05-2018 11:16am

Of all the unfair taxes that are out there (and by unfair I mean getting absolutely nothing in return), the €30 per year for having a credit card is the worst.

Robbing Ba5tards.

ArchXStanton · 01-05-2018 11:20am

Vaping products...have to make up the shortfall on the sin tax on smokes

Pat Mustard · 01-05-2018 11:20am

BattleCorp wrote: »

Of all the unfair taxes that are out there (and by unfair I mean getting absolutely nothing in return), the €30 per year for having a credit card is the worst.

Robbing Ba5tards.

Doesn't piss me off as much as the tv licence. Not a tax but close enough.

Kimbot · 01-05-2018 11:21am

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Vaping products...have to make up the shortfall on the sin tax on smokes

Hell no, they can feck off and leave vaping alone. They already get their VAT from it and thats enough.

01-05-2018 11:23am

Battery tax.

Gerry T · 01-05-2018 11:24am

We could change the system and just have 1 tax bill for every adult. Everyone paying same amount to pay the bills. Where else does money for roads, electricity, sewage, nurses, doctors, police, army, airport staff, civil servants.... I'll stop here, the list goes on and on. Or we can have loads of tax bills, but either way the same amount of money is needed. You do realise the govt works for you, you employ these people (elections). With more taxes then only the people using the service will pay. So what's your gripe?

JMNolan · 01-05-2018 11:25am

Cycling, definitely a matter of time

Kimbot · 01-05-2018 11:26am

Tax people that wear Gym gear but dont know what the inside of a gym looks like or even what exercise is....

padd b1975 · 01-05-2018 11:26am

Income tax regardless of income.

BattleCorp · 01-05-2018 11:27am

Pat Mustard wrote: »

Doesn't piss me off as much as the tv licence. Not a tax but close enough.

Can of worms time here but bad and all as RTE is, there is some semblance of a service for the money. Very poor value for money, but still some sort of service.

Pat Mustard · 01-05-2018 11:31am

BattleCorp wrote: »

Can of worms time here but bad and all as RTE is, there is some semblance of a service for the money. Very poor value for money, but still some sort of service.

I agree but I don't use their service, at all.

scamalert · 01-05-2018 11:31am

Kimbot wrote: »

Hell no, they can feck off and leave vaping alone. They already get their VAT from it and thats enough.

well they did introduce law that only 10mill of liquid are allowed to sell, so guessing its not the end, seeing more people vaping, it will eventually come to tax nicotine itself maybe to even it out with cig prices.

sugar tax total joke, coke vent from 2l, 1,75, now its 1.5l bottle for 2.xxe in corner store

then theres car insurance industry which seems to take whatever number they want, while not government controlled, but again ripping new a$$ every year with increases

in general id say someone coming to Ireland now has to be totally stupid as entire economy is high as a kite, and numbers keep going up across everything.

Boom_Bap · 01-05-2018 11:35am

Kimbot wrote: »

Tax people that wear Gym gear but dont know what the inside of a gym looks like or even what exercise is....

But it makes me look sexy

super_furry · 01-05-2018 11:36am

Vaping's next. The USC2, USC Harder.

Caliden · 01-05-2018 11:36am

Fully electric cars will get some sort of tax.

I think maybe some sort of tax on private vehicles based on mileage done per year (in addition to motor tax/fuel tax). They will base their figures off the odometer readings taken when the car has an NCT done. New cars (< 5 years old) will still need a yearly reading taken.

I think the tax relief in relation to your pension will be reduced and they will take a bigger cut when you go to retire.

Pat Mustard · 01-05-2018 11:37am

OSI wrote: »

Why? It will either raise more revenue required to run the services it produces an extra dependence on, or it will encourage better choices that will reduce dependence on those same resources. It's a win/win in my book.

You assume that it will work.

It's debateable whether it will have a useful outcome.
http://www.thejournal.ie/sugar-soft-drinks-tax-does-it-work-health-benefits-facts-2918363-Oct2017/
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43659124

In the meantime, we have yet another tax to enjoy. Thanks, Nanny State.

donegaLroad · 01-05-2018 11:37am

a tax on thoughts.. a bit like the Orwellian Thought-crime concept.

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 11:39am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

But it makes me look sexy

There should be a tax on making you look sexy! :pac:

JMNolan · 01-05-2018 11:39am

donegaLroad wrote: »

a tax on thoughts.. a bit like the Orwellian Thought-crime concept.

Possibly this one will be implemented as it means our politicians won't be liable due to lack of thoughts.

Boom_Bap · 01-05-2018 11:40am

Manufactures should be taxed for over packaging everything.
Coffee Shops should be taxed if they are using single use cups.

super_furry · 01-05-2018 11:40am

Boom_Bap wrote: »

But it makes me look sexy

We're bringing sexy-tax (yeah),
You're gonna pay for those yoga cacks.

erica74 · 01-05-2018 11:41am

If they're planning on a plastic tax, they should at least introduce a plastic bottle recycling system in Ireland. You see these in loads of European countries, recycling machines around the place. The machine has a bar code scanner and through that it can analyse the size of bottle and it calculates your refund based on the size of the bottle. The refund is a fraction of the price of the bottle.
I think this would be really popular in Ireland. Anyone who has ever attended a festival here will have seen young children going around collecting plastic beer cups to get prizes from a beer tent. I can see plastic bottle recycling facilities in Ireland being very successful.

LirW · 01-05-2018 11:50am

I'm shocked nobody has thought of a sickness tax? You're sick and can't work? Off you go an pay tax, because when you're sick you can't work and pay tax, so pay a tax that the state gets something for the tax they lose out when you're out sick.

ELM327 · 01-05-2018 11:52am

LirW wrote: »

I'm shocked nobody has thought of a sickness tax? You're sick and can't work? Off you go an pay tax, because when you're sick you can't work and pay tax, so pay a tax that the state gets something for the tax they lose out when you're out sick.

But for those that get sick pay they pay income tax in it

tmh106 · 01-05-2018 11:53am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

<snip> The min alcohol pricing coming. <snip>.

Nitpicking a little, but the minimum alcohol pricing will not be a tax, as far as I am aware - I believe the retailer will get to keep all of any resulting price increases.

jimmycrackcorm · 01-05-2018 11:58am

Pat Mustard wrote:

I agree but I don't use their service, at all.

Your taxes go towards provision of the fire brigade services, do you burn things to use that?

What will the next tax be.

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