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Flightradar24 Thread Part III

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    #8822
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    EI353 (EIN35Y) MUC-DUB and FR7329 (RYR4ED) LIS-DUB gone around RWY28 due wind, switching to RWY16 once they get the rest of the departures off 28.


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    #8823
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    EI353 (EIN35Y) MUC-DUB and FR7329 (RYR4ED) LIS-DUB gone around RWY28 due wind, switching to RWY16 once they get the rest of the departures off 28.

    EI353 MUC-DUB gone around again, this time on RWY16.


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    #8824
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    EI353 MUC-DUB gone around again, this time on RWY16.
    Now on its third approach. Best of luck.


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    #8825
    Credit Checker Moose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    Down safely.


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    #8826
    Att vara en hest
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Att vara en hest


    RYR8VN two aborted landings in Cork, looks like it's diverting to Shannon.
    https://www.flightradar24.com/RYR8VN/23cd175c


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    #8827
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    EI 104 from JFK to Dublin touched down about 10 mins ago and is almost an hour early on its projected arrival time. No doubt the strong jet helped it along the way


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    #8828
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    PukkaStukka wrote: »
    EI 104 from JFK to Dublin touched down about 10 mins ago and is almost an hour early on its projected arrival time. No doubt the strong jet helped it along the way


    You can see here that it was airborne for 4h58min - a good deal shorter than average. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei104


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    #8829
    Dr. Steve Brule
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Dr. Steve Brule


    PukkaStukka wrote: »
    EI 104 from JFK to Dublin touched down about 10 mins ago and is almost an hour early on its projected arrival time. No doubt the strong jet helped it along the way

    I find that fascinating. Not hugely knowledgeable on aviation myself but would weather conditions really have caused it to save an hour off the flight time?


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    #8830
    pdpmur
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭pdpmur


    Dr. Steve Brule wrote: »
    I find that fascinating. Not hugely knowledgeable on aviation myself but would weather conditions really have caused it to save an hour off the flight time?

    There are media reports this morning about JFK to London flights that knocked about 2 hours off their flight times. The aircraft apparently rode the jet stream associated with Storm Ciara to the tune of up to 200mph.


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    #8831
    duskyjoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    Google jet streams.....there’s a monster out there over the Atlantic at over 200kts lying in a West East direction.


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    #8832
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Dr. Steve Brule wrote: »
    I find that fascinating. Not hugely knowledgeable on aviation myself but would weather conditions really have caused it to save an hour off the flight time?

    The timetable allows for the flight duration to be a good deal longer and still have the flight arrive “on time”. The other significant variable as well as weather is congestion at JFK and this can affect the gate-to-gate time also.


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    #8833
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    We basically do 500 mph speed in the air, if that air is moving in the right direction at 150 mph, we shall do 650 mph over the ground, but if that air is moving against us, we shall do 350 mph.

    So If the distance between two airports is 650 miles, we wil; get there in one hour, but it will take 2 hours to come back.


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    #8834
    LRNM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭LRNM


    smurfjed wrote: »
    We basically do 500 mph speed in the air, if that air is moving in the right direction at 150 mph, we shall do 650 mph over the ground, but if that air is moving against us, we shall do 350 mph.

    So If the distance between two airports is 750 miles, we wil; get there in one hour, but it will take 2 hours to come back.


    I presume with 150mph tail wind you'll also save significant amount of fuel but that saving will be needed for the return flight against the wind so I guess it evens out.


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    #8835
    Comhrá
    Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=natla_250"]http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=natla_250[/URL]

    natla_250_150hr.png


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    #8836
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Two interesting ones today.

    EI3720 from Cork to Manchester was 700kmh+ on an ATR. Not seen them go that fast before. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei3720#23ce4395
    EI3721 from Manchester to Cork was about 35 minutes longer in the flight time, being stuck at a fantastically awful maximum speed of about 350kmh.... and a full hour of the flight at between about 200 and 250kmh. Thats slow. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei3721#23ce64e4

    Also spare a thought for EI236 from Dublin to Gatwick today. Poor buggers couldn't land in Gatwick due to wind and have ended up in Frankfurt Hahn. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei236#23cea3e4


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    #8837
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    LRNM wrote: »
    I presume with 150mph tail wind you'll also save significant amount of fuel but that saving will be needed for the return flight against the wind so I guess it evens out.

    No, if I understand it correctly, they would fly the return leg south or north of the jet stream current so as to avoid it.


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    #8838
    Dr. Steve Brule
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Dr. Steve Brule


    pdpmur wrote: »
    There are media reports this morning about JFK to London flights that knocked about 2 hours off their flight times. The aircraft apparently rode the jet stream associated with Storm Ciara to the tune of up to 200mph.

    Just reading that there, that's really amazing. Must have been a great surprise for those on board!


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    #8839
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Two interesting ones today.

    EI3720 from Cork to Manchester was 700kmh+ on an ATR.
    That's fairly spanking it :D


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    #8840
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    ............
    Also spare a thought for EI236 from Dublin to Gatwick today. Poor buggers couldn't land in Gatwick due to wind and have ended up in Frankfurt Hahn. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei236#23cea3e4
    Got told about that about 30 mibs ago.
    Bloody hell!! What a day.
    Their flightpath is making me dizzy. Don't think they even made an approach.
    I'm guessing CDG, AMS, BRU were full or too windy to even try.


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    #8841
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,919 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Tenger wrote: »
    Got told about that about 30 mibs ago.
    Bloody hell!! What a day.
    Their flightpath is making me dizzy. Don't think they even made an approach.
    I'm guessing CDG, AMS, BRU were full or too windy to even try.

    I thought pilots read weather forecasts prior to take off. This storm didn't just happen as the plane took off from Dub for Gatwick. Now I may be missing something, and perhaps the forecast was fine on take off, but reading other fora, Gatwick was practically abandoned for a few hours with many diversions happening.
    So was it a freak event or what?


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    #8842
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Tenger wrote: »
    Got told about that about 30 mibs ago.
    Bloody hell!! What a day.
    Their flightpath is making me dizzy. Don't think they even made an approach.
    I'm guessing CDG, AMS, BRU were full or too windy to even try.

    It’s just landing back in Dublin now, wonder did they let pax off in Frankfurt or bring them back to Dublin
    Just went around in Dub �� !


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    #8843
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Locker10a wrote: »
    It’s just landing back in Dublin now, wonder did they let pax off in Frankfurt or bring them back to Dublin
    Just went around in Dub �� !

    I'm obviously an asshole. I just opened this thread to say the same thing.


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    #8844
    GBX
    Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Another flight with a big diversion

    https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/1226442087433932800?s=19


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    #8845
    PinOnTheRight
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭PinOnTheRight


    GBX wrote: »
    Another flight with a big diversion

    https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/1226442087433932800?s=19

    Few other 'extreme' diversions today... Saw flights from Bogota, San Francisco and Tokyo destined for Heathrow divert to Munich. Latam Sau Paulo - Heathrow went to Barcelona.

    Emirates Dubai - Manchester went to Frankfurt. United Newark-Manchester to Amsterdam.

    Two SAS from Oslo and Copenhagen to Manchester returned to Oslo and Copenhagen.

    Nasty day all over with EGCC reporting gusts of 75kts around 1120z today :eek:


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    #8846
    Noxegon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Also spare a thought for EI236 from Dublin to Gatwick today. Poor buggers couldn't land in Gatwick due to wind and have ended up in Frankfurt Hahn. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei236#23cea3e4

    I wonder why they went there instead of back to Dublin. Anyone know?

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



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    #8847
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    At a very, very wild guess all Irish airports would have been 50/50 in not being able to land due to the winds, or at least would be slightly more risky than going to Hahn. I guess in that situation the call is made to head to a place where you're guaranteed to be able to land, and not a place where there is even a 20% chance you won't be able to.


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    #8848
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    No, if I understand it correctly, they would fly the return leg south or north of the jet stream current so as to avoid it.
    Sometimes you just cant avoid it so you are stuck with the slow slog back home.


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    #8849
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Nice to see a B747 (Atlas Air) on approach into Dublin. Big white plane gliding gently in to land.
    https://www.flightradar24.com/CMB135/23d0fa47

    Wonder what she is here for? Came from ROZ, Naval Station Rota, a "Spanish" military facility fully funded by the US Military.


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    #8850
    Noxegon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    Locker10a wrote: »
    It’s just landing back in Dublin now, wonder did they let pax off in Frankfurt or bring them back to Dublin
    Just went around in Dub �� !

    They’d have to bring them back.

    If nothing else you need a passport to enter Germany from Ireland - and you don’t need one for a CTA flight.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



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    #8851
    Board Walker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Western Global MD11 just flew past my place in Mallow heading into Shannon. I was able to make out the Aircraft type at 8000 foot from my window, never saw an aircraft fly past on that track before.

    Pity i didn't have time to get my 200-500mm lens onto the camera


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