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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner
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So then why didnt McDowell just say he would play for Ireland?
You are entirely missing the point. Two players with the same complicated nationalities were asked the same question about the Olympics, one of them gave a perfect answer which totally diffused the situation, the other went down the rabbit hole and made a complete 360 in his answer while briefly blaming the Zika virus along the way.
Candid indeed.
McDowell was effectively 13th on the list for the UK so he never had a chance of making the team. Rory was 1st on the list.
McDowell likely assumed that in order to avoid insulting either contingents in the North, he would not make a decision, knowing full well that he would never have the opportunity to accept/reject the UK as he was ranked 13th.
His only decision then was; should he define his preference to make a political point while potentially inflaming the situation or does he simply accept the chance to play for Ireland as his only option therefore causing less controversy with one group than he would have by declaring a position.
The fact you think the decision for both players is the same is laughable.
McDowell knew Ireland was his only shot, Rory had to choose, McDowell didn't have to choose, it's not remotely the same. I actually can't fathom how one isn't able to grasp the conceptual difference.
Did McIlroy handle it well? No he didn't.
Did McIlroy and GMAC have the same decision? No of course not, so let's not pretend they did and make false equivalencesTL;DR
You think McIlroy did have a sore tooth and just forgot that he had a sore tooth until an hour later?
That when he said that he wasn't in a good place mentally as he walked off the course, what he meant was that he keeps forgetting to tell people about his sore tooth and the fact he was swinging like a barn door was unrelated?
Gotcha.
TL;DR, I'm so shocked you were dismissive of someone's point in a childish manner. I do appreciate that you effectively backed down from your ridiculous position that the discussions were somehow connected though, changing your mind, that's a sign of growth.
I don't know if McIlory had a sore tooth, what I do think though is that he didn't preemptively lie or set out to deceive which is what you originally claimed.0 -
Though by no means exhaustive, a couple of examples might be the Zika Virus excuse, feeling more British than Irish statement about who to represent, the debacle with Conor Ridge that allegedly cost him a lot, claiming the engagement breakup was “mutual and amicable” when it was done by text message days after invites were sent out.
It's a bit like when you said on here a few pages back that you were a fan of Rory
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I've already responded to the point regarding McDowell and McIlroy, but I'll give it one more go.
Only golfers would care whether or not McDowell had a realistic chance to play for the UK, but everyone would care about who he declared for, just like McIlroy, so he had the same problems.I don't know if McIlory had a sore tooth, what I do think though is that he didn't preemptively lie or set out to deceive which is what you originally claimed.
You don't know? But he publically came out and told us all that he did?!
Your comment makes no sense, unless of course you think he might have been lying and trying to deceive us all to excuse him literally taking his ball and going home because he was playing so poorly...
Maybe you think he accidentally lied rather than preemptively lied and the delay is just down to some incompetence and/or short term memory issues?
But to be fair I think that a bit of a stretch, even for a fully paid up member of the "Rory can do no wrong" brigade.
Look, its clear you think that he can do no wrong, even when given examples, so continuing this conversation is a waste of everyone's time.
For the record I think he can be an excellent golfer, one of the worlds elite, but he has shown mental frailty and immaturity on several occasions and I think he would benefit from either thinking before speaking or just shutting up and saying nothing. It appears he doesn't have the ability to both say what he thinks and not stick his foot in it.
One doesn't have to like someone to acknowledge or admire their ability; sport is full of examples of this.0 -
Would the fact that he infuriates you not make you question yourself instead of him?
Personally I’ve no issue with anything he says or does or what way he changes his opinions. It doesn’t interfere with me in any way.
I just love watching him play golf when he’s on form and I’m always rooting for him to be honest.
He "infuriates" me as much as Mary Lou, Trump, Boris or any other non-genuine, public figure does.
Dont worry, its not keeping me up at night. 0 -
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I've already responded to the point regarding McDowell and McIlroy, but I'll give it one more go.
Only golfers would care whether or not McDowell had a realistic chance to play for the UK, but everyone would care about who he declared for, just like McIlroy, so he had the same problems.
Yes, only golfers would care if he had a chance to play but the fact he had no chance to play for the UK meant he never had to make a decision.
He may as well have been simply ineligible to play for the UK.
Rory was a certainty to be asked by both therefore making his decision different and the handling of the situation more precarious.
Funny how you even reference GMAC given his own admission that he was sitting on the fence, wanted World Golf to make the decision for him and then when offered the chance, turned it down.
Quite the shining example of how to navigate the situation.
Again mind boggling that you can't grasp the difference between the two situations but as previously mentioned, I can't really help you if you're that blind.You don't know? But he publically came out and told us all that he did?!
Your comment makes no sense, unless of course you think he might have been lying and trying to deceive us all to excuse him literally taking his ball and going home because he was playing so poorly...
Maybe you think he accidentally lied rather than preemptively lied and the delay is just down to some incompetence and/or short term memory issues?
But to be fair I think that a bit of a stretch, even for a fully paid up member of the "Rory can do no wrong" brigade.
Look, its clear you think that he can do no wrong, even when given examples, so continuing this conversation is a waste of everyone's time.
For the record I think he can be an excellent golfer, one of the worlds elite, but he has shown mental frailty and immaturity on several occasions and I think he would benefit from either thinking before speaking or just shutting up and saying nothing. It appears he doesn't have the ability to both say what he thinks and not stick his foot in it.
One doesn't have to like someone to acknowledge or admire their ability; sport is full of examples of this.
Again with the infantile Rory lover stuff, I'm by no means a sycophantic Rory fan but I do enjoy watching him play. I believe he responded in the moment, you believe he preemptively set out to deceive, that is fabricated and feeds the clear anti-Rory narrative you so frequently articulate.
I'm not asking you to like him, I'm simply highlighting that everything Rory seems to do, on and off(as irrelevant as that is) the course, you view through a prism of glaring negative bias.
Perhaps you remember your drivel from the Player's where you claimed it wasn't a great win because Tiger would have won it in a more convincing manner. If that's not a glaring example of the bias at play I don't know what is. Before you say it, that actually is relevant here.
Overall, quite sad that you can't view his sporting and/or personal endeavors objectively without the ugly bias surfacing on every occasion.0 -
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Nobody is ever going to break that one.Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
Edit: The ranking system has changed four times since Tiger started playing. In 2000, 2001, 2007 and 2010 (the 2010 change only fully came effective in 2012).0 -
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